Barcelona 2011-12 Kits are Released, Earth still rotates Sun

As you may remember from last year if you were here then, I love new kits. I love that they change every year, the new patterns, and all that jazz. There are a few rules to live by when creating a new kit: don’t stray from typical/historic club patterns when creating a home kit; stripes are usually a good thing (unless they are horizontal); simpler usually equals betters, too much clutter ends up making it look like a NASCAR vehicle (I’m looking at you every Mexican club team); and bold colors can be great, but within reason. Oh yes, and black kits are always a plus. A good example is the 11/12 Argentina NT home kit, which is as beautiful as ever. Blue and white stripes with the crest, just perfect. This year’s unveiling comes with the added bonus of the Qatar Foundation kit sponsor fiasco (some would call it that, I more or less call it an inevitability). Anyway, on to the unveiling. Here is a quick video with English subtitles of Puyol, Thiago, and P!!! talking about the kit (incidentally, Puyol tore a groin muscle while tying his shoe, Pedro died of shock at the sight of it).

 

The Blaugrana

I'm hardcore even when tying my shoes

The new home kit comes equipped with vertical stripes that start out fat and then get thinner going down, a highlighter yellow “Qatar Foundation” logo on the chest and UNICEF represented on the back, below the name/number. While I know there is much hand wringing about these on the Twittersphere, I like these to a certain degree. They are certainly better than the half and half treble-winning monstrosities from the 2008-09 season, though the change in stripes is off-putting. I do like the simple blue shorts/socks combo though. Overall I find these not totally abhorrent, though I do wish that the club had gotten a company like Apple to sponsor it, if only so I could have an Apple logo on my Blaugrana shirt, and my misgivings about the Qatar Foundation controversy are more or less trumped by knowing that this was in the offing for a very long time. So, 6/10 for some controversy and the ass logo, but not terrible.

The Black

/Plays "Imperial Death March"

Say what you want about the new home kit, it may take some getting used to, but this one, oh it is sexy. All black everything with only the highlighter yellow logos to contrast and the crest, oh my, I’m in love. Seriously, there is still some part of me, however, childish, that believes that black kits inspire confidence in the team wearing them, and trepidation in the opponent. These are simple, clean, contrasting, and have a nice collar touch. 9/10, would be perfect but for the ass logo.

 

Oh, and why the hell not, a Thiago sullen stare to send you off with.

Smolder young man, smolder
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257 Comments

  1. May 18, 2011

    I like the kit, both of them, simple and different. I’ve never minded the Qatar thing like most people, who cares on the logo when we are singing “Campeoness!!!” right?
    I do object the black kit in that EE wears it.

    • Vj
      May 18, 2011

      IIRC, the Catalan alternate is also black.

    • nzm
      May 18, 2011

      Isn’t the 2010/11 RM away kit navy blue?

      • blitzen
        May 18, 2011

        They have a black one and a purple one.

  2. soccermomof4
    May 18, 2011

    Our guys make these kits look good.

    Without our guys in them, not so sure.

  3. Eklavya
    May 18, 2011

    I think the black one will grow on me. I really don’t know how Messi, Iniesta and Bojan will look in those. Puyol, Thiago and Xavi will look badass though. :devil:

    • soccermomof4
      May 18, 2011

      I’m kinda scared of the tiny vampire in the black kit. Will he glow more?

      • Eklavya
        May 18, 2011

        I’m scared and excited at the same time. Is that possible?

        • Miguel
          May 19, 2011

          Like walking in on your parents doing it? @@

          Kidding. This is a family site.

          • outerspacedout
            May 19, 2011

            LMAO that’s disgusting but I laughed so hard seeing that

          • Eklavya
            May 19, 2011

            Sorry Miguel, I doubt I have as much experience as you on such matters.

  4. Josep
    May 18, 2011

    I tried to make a comment as “Copernicus” involving the title, but I forgot we have to register to WordPress and that’s too much work.

    I don’t like either kit, and I loved the half stripes in 08-09. the yellow third kit was the best though. I hope with the black and gold kits more latin kings around my house will start wearing them and I can form new friendships

    Did Pedro get his teeth fixed?

    • Eklavya
      May 18, 2011

      I wanted to comment as Breaking_BFB as well, but changing WordPress is too much work.

    • May 18, 2011

      Thats Hilarious Josep!!!!! And you can wear the 08-09 Home half and half kit to befriend Bloods and Crips!!!!

    • Puppet
      May 18, 2011

      Lol, I mean, come on. Can’t all the gangs just get along?

      Seriously though, I also really liked the 08-09 kits, mainly because they physically represented the word “blaugrana.” (I also liked this year’s green away kits, but I know I’m in the minority in that regard).
      I think i’ll be less put off by these new kits once the 11/12 season kicks off.

  5. Barcaleya
    May 18, 2011

    I really like the black kit.

    (I can’t do anything else about the Qatar Foundation as it’s already there). Black kit makes us “scary.” I quite agree that it will inspire trepidation in our opponents. We will look so bad ass in it.

  6. Para
    May 18, 2011

    Some people were asking for a summary of the Revista discussion on the last post. I was initially going to re-watch it and then do just that…but then I ended up basically writing out the whole thing. I apologise for the length of it all. I’ve tried to be as accurate as I could, writing what they’re saying instead of interpreting it.

    Bolton starts it off by saying that UEFA didn’t have enough evidence to charge Busquets, and begins the discussion of how the claim originated.

    Balague: RM was trying to upset Barca by complaints of players misbehaving. He says that Busquets wasn’t mentioned in the initial report, but that the video was included in the appeal. According to him, UEFA then asked Marcelo for a statement (he doesn’t talk about what Marcelo may/may not have said). He talks about how it was part of the team strategy that Mourinho started, to portray Barcelona as a team that ‘the authorities’ make allowances for.

    Bolton: “For RM, the biggest club in the world, to make such an accusation, they must have been 100% sure that Busquets had made racist remarks, Graham, I presume?”

    Hunter: “I’m not convinced.” He starts by talking about how loud stadiums are, and how it’s difficult to be certain what players are saying to each other (referring back to Van Persie’s red card). Hunter mentions the communication on the RM site saying that they didn’t submit the complaint to UEFA, questioning why, if they were 100 % sure, why they didn’t complain. “I think RM have handled this ineptly, made fools of themselves. There was never, ever going to be the possibility of sufficient evidence.”

    Hunter says he spoke to a black former Barcelona player (doesn’t say who), who was adamant that all the players around the club feel that if ‘that phrase’ was used and can be proved, that Busquets should be banned, and it would be accepted by Barcelona.

    At this point no one seems to be sure whether or not RM pressed the issue, but Balague says that if RM brought it up during the appeal and they were sure, they should have made much more of the issue.

    Balague starts the discussion (saying that this reflects on the ‘culture here in Spain’) about how no one is making this a debate about educating Spain about racial issues.

    Bolton summarises: the argument is that “People who aren’t racist are using racist abuse to wind other people up. But if you’re not a racist, you deplore that action that much that you wouldn’t sink to that level. And if there’s a suspicion of that, then action has to be very very strong. And if RM don’t believe 100% that that is the case, as you say, if they’ve pushed this, then they’ve sullied the whole name of Spanish football, and surely, Graham, they should come down on RM like a ton of bricks for this.”

    Hunter: My point about the ineptitude of their thinking and their language and their entire philosophical concept, obviously I agree with you. He agrees with Guillem that the debate isn’t taking root in Spain, and that it’s good that they’re talking about it, as he hopes it will reverberate back to Spain.

    Bolton asks about why it’s not being debated in Spain (comparing it to how it would be in the UK). Hunter says “the culture of debate and of eradicating it one, is a cultural change, it’s about education, not confrontation, and it’s slow and it needs to be intelligently planned and enforced. Why it’s not taking place, I think is because not enough opinion formers are doing what was done in the UK.”

    Balague says there are two reasons it’s not being discussed in Spain:
    1.He says mourinho has divided Spanish football into pro-Barcelona and pro-RM, so the media has taken sides. He says (i’m paraphrasing loosely) that’s created an atmosphere where there’s no room for discussion/debate, but only for accusation and defence.
    2.Spain have a problem with education regarding these issues. He says Spain is behind the times. He says it’s not an excuse, that’s it’s wrong, but that is what the problem is. He refers back to Aragones and what he said about Henry. He says that everyone became defensive in that instance as well.

    Bolton says that it’s a huge accusation to make, and that “for the club to make the accusation in the first place, and then to say they haven’t, it’s very strange.”

    And then they talk about Cristiano Ronaldo.

    • Para
      May 18, 2011

      eek! I typed this out elsewhere and didn’t realise just how long it would be until I submitted!

      • K_legit
        May 18, 2011

        Summary! Para, not a critical appreciation! 😀

        anyways if you guys are interested I’ll post what I posted in the previous thread:

        The gist of his talk was the fact that:
        In playing in a crowded stadium it is often very diffiuclt to hear what people are saying on the pitch. Was Marcelo a 100% sure what Busquets was saying?
        Real Madrid came up with this accusation without having sufficient proof to back it up. And if indeed they believed that Busquets had uttered a racist remark then they should have:
        a. Included this in the first complaint that they made to UEFA and
        b. Should have made a bigger deal of it when the complaint was rejected
        Instead they chose to spend their time, trying (and failing to) unobtrusively wash their hands off the matter.
        Basically, the way they acted was incompetent and the way they handled the situation was inept.
        In addition, Hunter claimed to have spoken with a black former Barcelona player who said that things like this would not be tolerated at FC Barcelona.
        Also, Balague and Hunter said point regarding the fact that Spain’s general public have not been educated enough in terms of racial incidents insofar as what and which constitutes a racist incident a-la the Aragones incident amongst others.

        And by things like this I mean, if a Barcelona player was found guilty of racism he would be punished most severely

      • Vj
        May 18, 2011

        Don’t bother. Length of the post doesn’t matter, its quality does. Thanks..

    • Lou
      May 18, 2011

      Wow, nice job Para!

      It was a really great discussion, and I highly recommend watching it.

      It was certainly much better than the Football Weekly discussion which was essentially consisted of Sid Lowe saying that while no one can be quite sure what the evidence was, but that he didn’t find Barcelona’s explanation of the events convincing, and isn’t it a shame that UEFA say that they are against racism but then refuse to do anything in this case.

      Shouldn’t UEFA also set an example by not punishing people if there isn’t clear evidence that they didn’t something wrong?

      • blitzen
        May 18, 2011

        “no one can be sure” but they should punish him anyway? Sid Lowe drops yet another notch in my eyes.

        • Lou
          May 18, 2011

          To be fair, I’m paraphrasing. His actual quote is that “it looks pretty bad for UEFA to have taken no action against something that they themselves have made quite a lot of noise about”.

      • Lou
        May 18, 2011

        Wow way too many negatives in that last sentence. Yikes!

        • K_legit
          May 18, 2011

          Quadruple negatives ftw! one more and you have manita!

    • blitzen
      May 18, 2011

      Many many thanks for taking the time to type this out. Gold star! Sounds like it is worth downloading.

      • Jnice
        May 18, 2011

        Sid was poor on Football Weekly. Very poor. But he changed his tune on another podcast I listened to. Strange.

        Sid is a better writer than Graham Hunter, but when it comes to speaking on different issues and actually knowing what’s going on, Graham wins all day. I could listen to him talk 7 days a week. Plus, he actual works closer to the teams and has actual sources instead of Marca and the other papers.

        • Lou
          May 18, 2011

          I think Sid Lowe is an excellent writer. My problem with him is that I think he loves telling stories more than reporting cold hard facts. This leads him to put interpretations on facts and quotes that aren’t necessarily borne out by the evidence. Then as he is a highly respected journalist everyone else takes his interpretations as fact.

          That’s in large part what happened with the coverage of Pep’s press conference I think. All the quotes that Sid reported Pep actually said. But they were taken out of context and rearranged to support the Sid’s feeling that Pep knew that Busquets had made racist remarks. Now everyone else quotes his report as evidence that Busquets racially abused Marcelo.

          I don’t think he does it deliberately, but in opinion it is a very dangerous habit for a journalist to form.

          • Barcaleya
            May 18, 2011

            Everything that journalists write is deliberate.

            There can be no excuses especially for one who writes for a national paper with wide distribution.

            Although there is a part of what they write that can allow for personal opinions – such what club is their favorite, or which player, or which goal – when dealing with a sensitive issue which can lead to official and legal sanctions – ALL journalists should be careful with what they say.

            Not only are they deemed to have mastery of the language (so that they know the exact meaning and effect of what they say), they should know that they have a following and that many people will be influenced by their thoughts. That precisely is the power of media.

            If they make a mistake, they should also have the humility to correct it and not turn around by suddenly espousing the opposite stand in a subsequent interview/discussion/article.

          • privateeye
            May 19, 2011

            Any responsible newspaper/journalist divides information into two classes.
            1)News
            2)Opinion

            Any honest journalist who doesnt have something ulterior usually makes it very clear when he is statng a opinion and when he is is quoting from a source. There is no room for ambiguity in journalism. If he is fond of telling stories then he should look forward to having grand children

          • yelèna
            May 19, 2011

            you’re welcome Barcaleya… found it by accident really, just happy to share.

    • Josep
      May 18, 2011

      you saved me so much typing. like I said this weeks episode especially is worth downloading and viewing. the boys know their liga, and it’s always been a shame that Sky doesn’t let them do broadcasts for Spanish CL or liga games.

      Graham is especially intelligent and knows his stuff, Guillem does on the issue (not so much on player transfers). Well worth a watch like I said and amazing writeup from Para.

    • Barcaleya
      May 18, 2011

      Thanks Para and K_legit!!!!

      Very happy to read this. Whatever they said is what I’ve been saying over and over here in the previous posts.

      Really. RM has to be castigated for their action in this matter – fueling unfair accusations, knowing full well they never had evidence to support it.

      I just hate them right now.

      • Barcaleya
        May 18, 2011

        The italicized paragraph UNDERNEATH is what i wrote in an earlier post. It’s a longer version of Hunter’s “I think RM have handled this ineptly, made fools of themselves. There was never, ever going to be the possibility of sufficient evidence.”

        I really like Hunter now (since we kinda think alike. Haha) And have lost respect for Sid Lowe. He may be a good writer but has lost journalistic integrity to me by jumping to conclusions with so little proof and being unmindful of his influence to the reading public and the effect of his irresponsible tweets/article.

        “I thought that what happened was perfect. RM made an ass of themselves. Bigtime. We didn’t say anything. Then when UEFA opened inquiries – we say it was “mucho morro.” EE could then have categorically stated that Marcelo said he heard otherwise. But they backed down.

        Worse, they come out with a statement saying they did not include in their complaint the Busi issue after Karanka’s presser and the video in their site, then to say that the video was just posted there to support diving and not racial slur. It was an outright admission that they had no evidence whatsoever and any one who is not biased could see that they’re insulting everyone’s intelligence with that stupid excuse.”

        • Graham’s always been the man. Now, he’s el p*to hombre. 8)

          Ditto on Sid. It seems journalists don’t realize the influence of their words. That’s why clarification is always necessary. People pick and choose pieces of what is being said as support for their own crusade. Sid’s gone way, way down in my eyes.

          • Barcaleya
            May 18, 2011

            Indeed!

            Haha. I love that we have an apt superlative to use now – “p*to.”

            P*to is actually a rice cake in my country 😀

            • Haha! It must be so awkward for a Spanish speaking person to order that cake. “I’d like three p*tos, please”. 😆

          • Barcaleya
            May 18, 2011

            Yeah. Must be really awkward 😀

            Funny thing too is that most of our curses are in Spanish (we were colonized by Spain for 400 years). But when we try to lessen the impact of p*ta and make it harmless, we say p*to. Which, apparently is still a curse in Spanish-speaking countries. It’s like saying “oh sheez” instead of “oh sh*t.”

            Ah, all sorts of interesting trivial things…

          • Ian
            May 18, 2011

            Whoa lemme guess, Barcelaya you’re Filipino?

  7. soccermomof4
    May 18, 2011

    Um…doesn’t the earth rotate on its axis and revolve around the sun? Might want the fix it before the physicist, Helge, reads it 🙂

    • May 18, 2011

      Well, it says the Earth rotates the sun. Which still doesn’t make any sense… 🙂

      • soccermomof4
        May 18, 2011

        Like I said…Helge will have a cow 🙂

        • Luke
          May 18, 2011

          It rotates on an axis while circling the sun, so technically, still rotating it, thanks.

          🙂

          • May 18, 2011

            I just imaged the earth with arms and the sun as a basketball. haha. ok.

          • Nav
            May 18, 2011

            And the sun is orbiting the centre of the Milky Way, and the Milky Way is adrift in space getting further away from other galaxies faster than the speed of light… and … and … while all this happens, Messi is running past 7 defenders and humiliating top class defenders left and right.

            Awww yeahhhhh.

          • just listenin
            May 18, 2011

            “Earth still rotates sun” implies that the Earth is exerting a force on the sun (like a torquing force) that is causing the sun to spin on its axis. This is not right…there are some forces exerted by the earth and sun on each other, gravitational forces that effects their movement and orbits, that’s like Newton’s n-body problem or something, isn’t it? The sun does rotate but the earth isn’t responsible for it, it takes about 25 days to make one rotation, it’s barely observable unless you’re watching sun spots and stuff through a telescope, with sunglasses, for days on end… I think it spins because of how the universe was formed due to the conservation of angular momentum from some supernova shockwave or something…some people say they see the sun spinning but they are usually having a religious experiences (or collective hallucinations) in places like Fatima or Medjugorje… hey that new away kit is kinda cool, huh?

          • soccermomof4
            May 18, 2011

            @ just listening
            While I disagree with you from an epistemological point of view, anyone who can use the term, angular momentum, correctly in a sentence while correcting Luke has my vote…hey the purple warmup jacket is cooler 🙂

          • just listenin
            May 18, 2011

            @soccermomof4, the jacket may indeed be cooler, and I’m not sure I agree with me. I actually tend toward a more comparative mythological view on things. Couldn’t resist giving Luke the business though. Won’t I be embarrassed if Luke’s right and turns out to be the next Einstein or Stephen Hawking.

            If we want meaning, watch this video via barcastuff;
            http://youtu.be/IUi4igB45FQ Reenactment of Messi’s goal in the semi 1st leg.

          • Luke
            May 18, 2011

            I’m glad this became the focal point of the article. Anyway, as Mr. Sagan once put it, the earth is a “pale blue dot” that is “suspended in a sunbeam,” but I bet you’re not haggling with Carl Sagan now are you.

            Anyway, I was simple using it as a turn of phrase for “everything’s still normal.” Technically, if we must be accurate: the Sun is not the center of our universe because of the way in which the planets rotate and their alignment (Jupiter throws this all off) and a theoretic extrasolar viewer would see everything wobble around, not at the sun, but slightly “forward” from it, though thinking of space in such terminology is foolish since there is no up or down there.

            The planets revolve around the sun as they rotate on their axes and their moons revolve around the planets all while our galaxy is moving at some 600m km/s (as we think of it) away from our closest neighbors and toward a massive cluster. All of this is occurring while the universe itself expands.

            All of this only makes a bit of sense when you understand that our rudimentary concepts of movement, direction, and distance don’t mean anything when determining space, the expansion of our known universe, etc.

          • vaderspacedout
            May 18, 2011

            To put simply, its meant as ‘everything is normal and the Earth still orbits the sun’ (while rotating on your axis). You made a slip of word choice. It’s fine and while we may nitpick it doesn’t really bother anyone.

          • vaderspacedout
            May 18, 2011

            As revolving around or orbiting the sun, not rotating.

            To cut past all the huge physics passages.

          • May 18, 2011

            lol, Luke, none of which helps your case. You made a simple mistake in the title, no biggie 😛

          • soccermomof4
            May 19, 2011

            Yes, but in terms of football, everything revolves around Messi, is powered by Dani, and controlled by Pep.

            We love you Luke, and appreciate you post, but it felt good to go off on this tangent after the darkness of the past few weeks. Hence the emoticons and obvious goofiness.

          • Eklavya
            May 19, 2011

            Luke what you said has nothing to do with the title…

          • just listenin
            May 19, 2011

            Very well said Luke, it’s all relative, and the whole conversation was relatively silly, but fun. We all knew what you meant.

  8. May 18, 2011

    New kit is alright, the weird stripes looked kind of ugly at first but they’re fine, really. The Qatar Foundation logo came out much better than I predicted, as it could really have been a tree and letters catastrophe, but the highlighter color of the name is fine. The UNICEF logo on the bum looks good to me.

    The black kit is alright, I guess. Never really saw us as a team wearing all black like that. Meh. Also, how often will we be able to even wear it. The blaugrana kit is already fairly dark, so we always wore it unless we played away to a dark-jersey sporting team (like say Chelsea). Don’t see many situations where we can wear the black jersey and not the blaugrana jersey.

    And I do hope you were joking about the Apple thing. That would be awful. 😛

    • Nik
      May 18, 2011

      And I do hope you were joking about the Apple thing. That would be awful.:) Agreed.

      And I may be in the minority, but I quite liked the half and half of 08-09. My fondness for it is probably influenced by the good memories of that season. 🙂

      • blitzen
        May 18, 2011

        Loved the half-and-half. A classic! I’m sad I never bought that kit. And the yellow one from the same season.

        • May 18, 2011

          I liked it too. I have home short and long-sleeved, and a commemorative one released by the club in honor of the Copa, which is very cool. There’s also that “Campions 3” shirt that had a short-but-successful release. 😀

      • Jim
        May 18, 2011

        Count me in on the fruit company idea. I’m a fully paid up fanboy 🙂

  9. Cam
    May 18, 2011

    “A new emotion every weekend” is a deadly accurate summary of the hyper-drama that is Spanish football.

  10. May 18, 2011

    For the record, I like the shirts, and would buy my usual season’s complement (home/away, training/travel tops, warmup jackets, etc.) were it not for the fact that that crap is on the front of it.

    Perhaps it was inevitable, but I tend to think that the smart fiscal management of the kind that RoSELL rode into office bellowing about, could solve the current issues, for the comparative pittance that comes from the shirt sponsorship.

    Shirt sponsorship was examined under the Laporta presidency, but they got their stuff together, and quashed the idea. Then RoSELL used that decision, blew the dust off and presented our soul-selling as a fait accompli.

    Won’t buy one, unless somebody makes some for sale without the sponsor logos.

    On the other hand, those warmup jackets, particularly the purple ones, are delightful.

    • Lou
      May 18, 2011

      I really wonder about how much Barcelona’s replica shirt sales revenue will fall next year.

      Does anyone know how much money the club usually makes from shirt sales?

      Also from a marketing point of view having Unicef on the front of the shirt was an excellent way to brand the club as different from the rest. That’s a hard thing to put dollar signs on, but it was certainly an excellent way to gain visibility outside of Spain and collect fans internationally.

      • May 18, 2011

        I don’t think international sales are a huge concern to the club itself, I mean the “Official” store does not ship to the Americas or Asia, the American site I believe is fueled by a third party, either Nike or World Soccer Shop. So Tshirt sales to this side of the world, FCB doesn’t care about, shirt sales affect Nike more directly.

        • Nav
          May 18, 2011

          Pretty sure FCB would get a piece of the cut if it’s sold through any retailers (i.e. not fake ones).

          • May 18, 2011

            Actually, the club does want to break into the N. American and Asian markets. The decision to have the official shop only serve certain parts of the world was a stupid, short-sighted one. The hope was that shorter shipment times, etc. would lead to happier customers.

            Reality was that people in, say, N. America, see what the real shop has, and revolt. But global shirt sales are a significant source of revenue for the club. They give Nike its cut, of course, but it definitely matters. In the case of Ibrahimovic, the club was giddy because it was suddenly selling a ton of shirts in a new market, Sweden.

          • nzm
            May 18, 2011

            I was in Stockholm over the weekend and they are still selling posters and plates with Ibra in his Barca strip!

          • blitzen
            May 18, 2011

            @nzm: It must be hard to shift Ibra merchandise, he changes his club every year!

    • soccermomof4
      May 18, 2011

      I’m gonna print out pictures of the warmup and starting in September or October, before anyone starts worrying about what to get mom for Christmas, I’m gonna post pictures around the house in strategic spots(like everywhere tape will stick) with the words “Yo kids, problem solved, you want to go in together and buy Mom THIS, here is the website…” Subtle, no?

      • Barcaleya
        May 18, 2011

        Haha. Good idea! Think will do the same…

  11. blitzen
    May 18, 2011

    I don’t know what kind of training they do at Villarreal, but Rossi posted this on his twitter:

    “Got hit by a damn bull. We [are] at this farm and running around with them. Got caught but still on my feet.”

    Maybe instead of Rossi, we should just sign the bull?

    • soccermomof4
      May 18, 2011

      more…um… peppers than brains?

      Really, if we’re gonna pay 30M for the dude there had better be a no playing with ferocious barnyard critters clause!

    • Diego
      May 18, 2011

      My Wishlist :

      Rossi or Alexis Sanchez (I’d be happy if we get any of them but I like Rossi more)
      Sakho or Botia (Botia can wait till next year and we use his buy back clause, by then We’ll know how Puyol and Abidal are doing since we’ll already have Sakho, Fontas, Pique with Masch and Busq as Emergency)
      The MF is confusing and I don’t know any good player who would come for the remaining 10-15m.

      Wild Card :

      Falcao !! Trezeguet, Kanoute, or Forlan would be nice, If Pep thinks of them.

    • Whatever
      May 18, 2011

      I understand they’re in love and everything, but I really hope all this jazz doesn’t affect Pique’s game. And it’s pathetic.

      • Barcaleya
        May 18, 2011

        Kari – it’s the very first line she says/sings. Around 00:20.

        She substitutes “Pique” for “baby.” Haha.

        Then watch a little bit more cause she does a little shrug, sort of acknowledging that she’s being cheezy.

        Haay. They’re sweet. But yes – I do hope this doesn’t leave Pique out of focus. Although – it can’t be much different from other players who are in love with their wives and gfs. Just that Pique does more traveling as he attends Sahkira’s concerts.

        • /facepalm. That’s why one shouldn’t skip ahead…

          All we need to do is make sure El Capita is on the pitch with him. Puyi won’t let Pique lose focus.

          • Blow-Grenade
            May 18, 2011

            Puyol is no lamb herding spring chicken either, have you seen his girl friend. OMG. On the other hand, Puyi keeps his stuff private. Pique hopefully gets some hints from that.

          • May 19, 2011

            I dont know why he would loose focus, I impregnated my ex girlfriend in a van like 15 minutes before a state playoff game my senior year of high school baseball, kept my cleats on and all!!!! I went 2-4 woth two doubles an RBI, a stolen base and two runs scored. Also had an outfield asist to end the eighth inning!!!!!

          • outerspacedout
            May 19, 2011

            Wa-wa-waaaay too much information bro.

            Say hi to the kid from us though. Since you did say impregnated.

    • Ryan
      May 18, 2011

      Boo, that song was the 2006 WC theme song. Seeing as that’s when Spain got beat by Zidane’s France… please only mention Pique in the Waka Waka one, Shakira!

  12. Eklavya
    May 18, 2011

    Guys guys, I told Graham Hunter on twitter to tell Pep to sign Sakho from PSG if he meets him, and replied to me, saying “Ok”. OMG, I AM FAMOUS (without having to loose sleeping time cough cough). Woooo! Graham is really cool. 🙂

    • Jnice
      May 18, 2011

      You probably don’t even know who Sakho is. Why don’t you tell everyone the truthhhhhh, Eklavya? Whose idea was it? It’s okay, outerspacedout and Josep know the truth. 🙂 Graham only pitied you for your incorrect spelling.

      • Eklavya
        May 19, 2011

        LOL, come on, I get enough Ligue 1 stuff being so close to France.

        It was my idea to make everyone shout so that it might happen. 🙂

    • vaderspacedout
      May 18, 2011

      Milla Jovovich still tops Bumper Graham, Ek.

      • outerspacedout
        May 19, 2011

        Oh yes she does.

        Hey Mila check this out-

        @MillaJovovich Milla Jovovich
        RT @jamgoodmeatgood:@MillaJovovich Its my birthday in January, cud u pls give me a RT/mention? Wud be an amazing in-advance bday present

        OH YEAH. And I’m so stealing Eklavya’s thunder.

        • Eklavya
          May 19, 2011

          That’s just because she thought you were some guy with a mental health problem, not because you were funny 😛

          • outerspacedout
            May 19, 2011

            Haha keep telling yourself that Eklavya.

            Just cos Bumper/i> felt sorry for you telling him so SIGH Sakho…

          • outerspacedout
            May 19, 2011

            LOL I just made myself look like an idiot for dissing Eklavya’s spelling

  13. K_legit
    May 18, 2011

    Falcao has scored 38 goals in 42 games for Porto this season..jeez!

    • Diego
      May 18, 2011

      Make that 42 goals “Including today” in whatever appearances.

      Would be an amazing purchase but still an unproven player. Even if he finished as Top Scorer in Europa League with 17 Goals.

    • vaderspacedout
      May 18, 2011

      Mario Gomez(!!!) scored 39 goals in 45 appearances too. GOMEZ. I knew he used to score a lot in Stuttgart but he seems so meh the few times I see him somehow, but still 39 goals in 45 apps in the Bundesliga and CL is stunning.

      Also, Falcao’s goals record in Europa League is INSANE. 17. 17 goals in the competition. Many top strikers score than much in their LEAGUE.

      • Ryan
        May 19, 2011

        Indeed, he even scored 4 goals against poor Villarreal. In one half!

  14. May 18, 2011

    Some Abidal quotes:

    “I thought that I wouldn’t play again. It was during a short period of time, when they detect a tumour you immediately think the worst and it was the first thing I asked the doctors. This season was very difficult, but in the end things turned out well.

    “I see it differently. Many things that you think were useful, aren’t any more. That’s why I’ve sold all the cars that I had. When you suffer a problem like mine, all the cars you have don’t serve for anything. For this I’ve sold them and the money will go to the fight against illnesses with some associations that I have had contact with.”

    • Nav
      May 18, 2011

      The other day, I think it was the game against Levante, I saw him praying just before entering the pitch. I’ve never seen him do that before. He does seem a changed man.

      • Diego
        May 18, 2011

        No, He always does that, Maybe you didn’t see him used a sub before or didn’t notice. Even back in 07.

        *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoQpW43mAw4

        *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=044WuV7isus

        *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXzkH6xng-I

      • Diego
        May 18, 2011

        He always does that, Wait for my moderated comment to show 🙂

        Kari, Approve one comment and delete the other, Thanks in advance.

  15. May 18, 2011

    i disagree with Isaiah, I liked 08-09 home and away yellow, and these are terrible, stripes are to thin for me.

  16. Víctor
    May 18, 2011

    I certainly understand that people do not like a sponsor in the shirt. However, calling “Qatar Foundation” crap isn’t really smart, IMO. Is not like it’s a bad organization or something.

    The black one is cool, but I’d like it more if it were yellow. 🙂

  17. Víctor
    May 18, 2011

    “too much clutter ends up making it look like a NASCAR vehicle (I’m looking at you every Mexican club team)”

    Hi, Luke…

    You can go to hell too. =D

    (Yes, it’s a shame how commercial interests have mexican football practically “kidnapped”)

  18. BarcaGirl_Indo
    May 18, 2011

    I love our new away jersey…

    Yes, I love men in black…
    I bet Piqué wil look badass, just like Puyi…hell yeah!!

    I’m not sure about Messi, but men look hot in black, IMO… 😛

    and the training jacket, love it too! Thiago looks awesome in that pic!

    still not sure about home jersey, must see the whole squad wear it first, but I don’t hate it now…

  19. vaderspacedout
    May 18, 2011

    I like the away jersey. I hate the home one. Stripes too thin.

    Dislike the fact that we have a sponsor. Very very much. Nothing to do with it being Qatar Foundation, which I prefer to most other options like a big multinational or betting/alcohol companies. Problem only with the idea of selling our souls out the front of the shirt.

    Hey Ek, Bumper replied to you? Aw.

  20. Copernicus
    May 18, 2011

    What is this man Josep who claims to use my Name? What is Thy Reason or Motivation for ye Use of my Name?

    • Breaking_BFB
      May 18, 2011

      Breaking News! Copernicus is the Secret Advisor to the Kari-led BFB mutiny. They are planning this takeover for the precise moment where the Moon aligns with the Sun in the exact alignment for *dun-dun-DAAAN* EEVIILLL!

  21. BarcaGirl_Indo
    May 18, 2011

    Copernicus? Breaking_BFB? Bumper?

    Bumper Graham? Is that you?
    can we have Sid Lowe here too?

    😯

    • Sid the Flow Hip-Hop Master
      May 18, 2011

      Sorry, you ain’t as famous as Ek the Man

      • BarcaGirl_Indo
        May 18, 2011

        can you reply my tweet, Sid?

        I wanna be famous too, like that annoying kid, Eek Love Ya!!

      • outerspacedout
        May 19, 2011

        Nanda don’t try your dreams will just be smashed to tiny little pieces like a cup under a bus

        • barca96
          May 19, 2011

          Outer, did some one use a similar name as yours but then vader instead of outer or is it you?

        • BarcaGirl_Indo
          May 19, 2011

          who are you?

          where did you hide Vader??

          Bumper did reply my tweet too, but I didnt brag myself like that boy Ek!
          Shame on you, Ek!

          • Sid the Flow Hip-Hop Master
            May 19, 2011

            Sorry nanda59, but maybe if you showed more respect to Ek the man then maybe you would have a chance.

        • outerspacedout
          May 19, 2011

          No its me. That was just a joke, I changed my name a while to ‘expose’ my ‘evil’, Kari’s mutiny supporting side. Much like Diego became ‘Diego is on the side of Kari’ for a while.

  22. bastardowski
    May 18, 2011

    I know the the discussion has moved on from this issue, but before blaming journalists you must understand that there are several levels through which a copy passes. So sometimes sentences are twisted and contorted to make them more newsworthy. The degree differs from country to country. Having worked as a sports journalist for several years, I can safely say that this is more true for this beat than any other. While Sid’s copy may not have been touched, it may be wise to cut him some slack before writing him off.

    • Barcaleya
      May 19, 2011

      Sorry, he tweeted the exact same thing before he wrote it.

      And people tweeted him back to question it. But he still wrote about it and wrote exactly what he tweeted beforehand. I don’t think those tweets were “twisted and contorted.” There is NO cutting him slack for this particular story.

      Same thing for other journalists who go on to defend what they wrote/said. And then turn around when proven wrong.

      No cutting slack since they have shown through other acts/writing that what was originally written is what they wanted to convey.

  23. culegirl3
    May 19, 2011

    Our players can make ANYTHING look good including potato sacks! I’m digging the the away kit. Black is timeless, classy, and screams “I’m the boss”.

    I noticed something interesting. Two former Barcelona players have come to die(career wise) in the MLS while so far one from EE with the possibility of Guti annoying, wait I mean I gracing us with his presence/contributions this year, like Beckham has done ::rolls eyes::

    I wish someone from Barca would come to LA so that the galaxy won’t be plagued with former EE players =( NY has all the luck damnit!

  24. barca96
    May 19, 2011

    I’m totally hating on the black jersey.
    In Asia, especially Oriental part of Asia, black is considered bad luck.
    Coincidentally, it’s what people wear to funerals.

    Oh and Pepe thought that they deserved to be in the final.
    Poor guy..

    • Ryan
      May 19, 2011

      Well, in Japan it’s actually the white kimono that is used for funerals…

  25. May 19, 2011

    Soooooooo BOjan to Valencia? BS.COM……A freakin’ shining beakon of journalistic standard

  26. K_legit
    May 19, 2011

    a diagonal blaugrana strip across the black away jersey would have made it epic

  27. Lev
    May 19, 2011

    would have loved the home jerseys were it not for the sponsor 🙁
    would have hated the away jerseys regardless. EE often has black away jerseys. WTF were they thinking?

    • Diego
      May 19, 2011

      The Away jersey is weird because we usually wear our away kit when we play another dark coloured team, I don’t see how many times we’ll use it.

      • Barcaleya
        May 19, 2011

        The mint green one is our third kit….guess we’ll still be using that more. Perhaps we’ll use the black when playing teams with striped kits (that are not two dark colors). Like Atletico Madrid, for instance.

  28. Vj
    May 19, 2011

    It seems that Valdes was visited once again by the UEFA’s doping team. Oddly enough our only available first team keeper is being tested. Seems that those allegations by EE have worked..

    I hope this shuts up those morons (or should I say Mourons?) suggesting we have links with UEFA..

  29. 145culegirl
    May 19, 2011

    I heard that Messi,after the Deportivo game was reluctant to join the celebrations and was sulking on the sidelines.Juanjo Brau,the wonder physiotherapist had pushed him onto the field and told to enjoy himself.Is it true?.I was on a vacation and missed the game.Can you clarify what happened?.This is a line from a editorial from BS.com-
    “Humble, harmless and homely he may appear to the naked eye, but behind the nervous smile is a shrewd and single-minded individual who will go to great lengths in order to get his way.”.

    Again,Casillas is losing respect.I think he has a split memory.He sometimes talks like a true professional and then suddenly he starts talking trash.Casillas said that those who did’nt see Busquets calling “mono mono” to Marcelo are blind(pointing out to UEFA).He looked quite arrogant by reading his comment.

    • outerspacedout
      May 19, 2011

      Kari, could you get rid of the previous one in moderation? Thanks.

      As for my comment:

      I’ll let Jnice and fcbfandrivel answer that (you mind if I quote you from Twitter, guys?)

      Jnice:
      I just scanned it. Terrible journalism. He tried to flip what Graham said: *http://es.pn/kyEX9h
      If dude was really paying attention, he would’ve noticed that against Espanyol… Messi tried to feed Villa..
      and passed up opportunities to score. and against Levante, he wasn’t even bother after he hit post.
      And Messi wasn’t ‘missing’ from the first photo. He just had his jacket on. This is why I don’t read goal.
      Terrible. Like @BumperGraham says, Messi just wants to play. He’s not pissed b/c CR added 2 more goals to his tally, lol.

      fcbfandrivel:
      LOL goal.com doing what it does best – being ridiculous: Messi Problem for Pep Guardiola bit.ly/mpMhzg
      Copied shamelessly from Ramon Besa piece & Graham Hunter’s piece, added false ‘facts’ and given it an all new CR7 twist.

      • 145culegirl
        May 19, 2011

        I hate reading goal.com.I first read this on Yahoo!Sports and then googled it and found an article on Goal.com about Messi sulking.

        • Jnice
          May 19, 2011

          Are you talking about that Andy Mitten article on Yahoo?

          Lost credibility when he said: Messi’s professionalism is seldom doubted, but he is afforded privileges not granted to others. If he doesn’t show up to training, then he doesn’t show up to training – and that’s that.

          That’s not true at all. 08/09 season, I think it was when he was fined for being 2 minutes late to training. Messi isn’t treated differently in that regard. Why the lies?

          • May 19, 2011

            Goal’s article stated that Messi was sulking and not part of the celebrations until Pinto convinced him to join. I just saw the post match trophy presentation. It didn’t look like he was sulking to me. The article said he wasn’t tossing peppers, a sign that he was less than happy. But I don’t recall Pedro or Iniesta tossing peppers either. So where they also sulking? Messi wanting to play every game is no secret. But there’s no proof that it’s becoming a “Messi” problem.

    • blitzen
      May 19, 2011

      I find it very telling that Casillas, the Captain of RM, never actually says that he directly asked Marcelo or that Marcelo told him Busquets said “mono”. He only ever refers to the video “evidence”. This makes me think that Marcelo himself never confirmed it, whether he wasn’t sure or didn’t hear or heard something else, or just decided to keep out of the whole thing (most likely IMO). Hence UEFA throwing out the charges. Casillas is one of the RM players I have always respected, but I don’t know what to think about him anymore. He seems to have drunk the Mourinho Kool-Ade and now just parrots whatever they instruct him to say. Sadly, I do think this will affect Busquets’ relationship with his NT captain. They all talk a good game about being professionals and leaving disagreements on the field, but it must hurt to know that your team captain thinks you are a liar and a racist.

      Remember at the WC after Iniesta’s goal, when everyone was racing to jump on the maniple to celebrate, and Busquets stopped and turned back to run to Casillas and congratulate him? And they were holding each other and crying? 🙁

      • soccermomof4
        May 19, 2011

        “They all talk a good game about being professionals and leaving disagreements on the field, but it must hurt to know that your team captain thinks you are a liar and a racist.”

        I once semi-jokingly said that VdB shouldn’t call up anyone from EE or us. Now I just think that the Catalans should refuse to play for a couple of games. Let’s see how well Spain does w/out the Catalans. I’m also gonna go out on a very thin, shaky limb here and say that had not Busi been on the NT, Casillas wouldn’t have been lifting that bright shiny trophy. He marked Schweinsteiger and Sniedjer out of the games and VdB alway chose to sub out Xabi over Busi when he needed another attacker.

        • blitzen
          May 19, 2011

          VdB has been saying for the last year that Busi is one of his most important players and the team wouldn’t be the same without him.

        • Barcaleya
          May 19, 2011

          I totally agree. Let the NT play without the Barca players and see how good they would be.

          And yes – Xabi was in fact quite useless at the WC. It was all Busi. Busi could have done the DM role by himself. (And I love Xabi. But he’s getting infected with this madness, like Casillas, since Mou took over.)

  30. outerspacedout
    May 19, 2011

    Mila: Explanation of Milla Jovovich Bumper Graham thing above in reply to your comment.

    Crappily explained it is yes.

    • Eklavya
      May 19, 2011

      The reason Graham replied to me is because, I said, “Hey Bumper, next you bump into Pep tell him to sigh SAKHO from PSG.”

      Graham Hunter’s twitter name is “BumperGRaham”, so he answered me because he found my tweet funny not because of some other BS the jealous twitter fans are spewing! 😛

      • outerspacedout
        May 19, 2011

        And to continue the explanation, which I might as well instead of making you scroll back up:

        Milla Jovovich retweeted me a couple days ago is why her name is being mentioned. Of course, Ek thinks he’s the famous one.

        • Eklavya
          May 19, 2011

          Ok man, THIS IS WAR. I got a reply from Graham and you got RT’d by Mila.

          The one who can get an Retweet by any celeb before the end of the week wins. WANNA TRY?

        • outerspacedout
          May 19, 2011

          She wrote more than two letters when she reposted mine, if you recall. More effort went into that than what you got.

          Also, you can just cast a wide-ass net if you wanted to do that. I’m a bit more selective. A total of less than five tweets to just two celebs, one re-tweet, that’s percentages for you.

        • outerspacedout
          May 19, 2011

          Eklavya got a two-letter ‘Ok’ by Graham, btw.

        • outerspacedout
          May 19, 2011

          Also, the BFB Mila is on my side as well, so I win by default.

      • outerspacedout
        May 19, 2011

        Pfft you weren’t even joking when you called him Graham hahahaha you actually thought that was his first name. Me and Jnice had to correct you

        • Eklavya
          May 19, 2011

          I never called him Graham, I called him Bumper you idiot ahhahaah, you’re the one who needs correction.

        • outerspacedout
          May 19, 2011

          Good point. My bad. Yeah you thought Bumper was his first name.

    • outerspacedout
      May 19, 2011

      Honestly though Ek would you rather have heard from Milla Jovovich or got an ‘Ok’ from Bumper Graham?

      • Um, the above comment was made by me, Graham Hunter of course. Me and Eklavya are actually the same person!

      • outerspacedout
        May 19, 2011

        HAHAHA YOU IDIOT I’m pretty sure you meant to change your name but screwed that up

        • outerspacedout
          May 19, 2011

          ^^ Eklavya this time

          This name change thing should have ‘Cannot take Names of any other members’ Etiquette

        • outerspacedout
          May 19, 2011

          I’m still outerspacedout. That last Vader was the one that wasn’t me.

      • outerspacedout
        May 19, 2011

        Angry Blitzen, the scariest denizen of BFB.

        • Lev
          May 19, 2011

          wow. and to think that I am happy when euler replies to me! lol

  31. Josep
    May 19, 2011

    Cule_less says:
    May 19, 2011 at 3:33 am
    I dont know why he would loose focus, I impregnated my ex girlfriend in a van like 15 minutes before a state playoff game my senior year of high school baseball, kept my cleats on and all!!!! I went 2-4 woth two doubles an RBI, a stolen base and two runs scored. Also had an outfield asist to end the eighth inning!!!!!

    my hero!

    • Lev
      May 19, 2011

      that’s right. it would only break your concentration if you had found out that i was the one who actually impregnated her : p

      • soccermomof4
        May 19, 2011

        This may be a GREAT time to change the topic. Who do you want in the lineup this weekend? Remember football guys?

        @ Blitzen- Just how do you make that devil emoticon?

  32. outerspacedout
    May 19, 2011

    Sorry everyone for above trollfest. We were just really bored.

    • Eklavya
      May 19, 2011

      I was going to post something like this as well. Sorry for hi-jacking this post.

    • Josep
      May 19, 2011

      you’re way behind JNice. He (I have too) talks to Janusz, Shaka, and others. I got RT’d by BeyondThePitch the other day. Twitter is amazing, since I unprotected my account I actually have conversations with journalists. The rapper/alderman Rhymefest talked to me once. 😀

      Oh, and barcastuff DM’s me smilee faces a lot. 🙂

      • outerspacedout
        May 19, 2011

        Well, I talked to Brooks…

        Hey, you and Jnice have been on Twitter for ages! I’m a newbie

  33. Okay, the next time I see such a plethora of useless comments like the ones above, I will delete them. All of them. You have been warned.

    • outerspacedout
      May 19, 2011

      I feel really bad now. Sorry Kari 🙁 you can delete them all now actually. Please do.

    • Josep
      May 19, 2011

      a little harsh, the boys were just having fun. look a few threads back. we have killed the busi issue into the ground, we’ve had just random yellings during winning champions. its all in context.

      the kids were bored and the kits suck 😀

    • Eklavya
      May 19, 2011

      I went to bed with just one comment and woke up to like 5 of them mentioning me.

      • Eklavya
        May 19, 2011

        Not that I’m putting all the blame on Outer…

  34. May 19, 2011

    Back to business:

    One unsubstantiated rumor says that Villarreal want 35m for Rossi, or 20m+Krkic. Who here would do it?

    Yes, I would. In about two seconds. Krkic might make it somewhere else, but he isn’t going to make it at Barcelona. The pressure of expectation, and its attendant relief is sometimes what’s required to bring out the best in a player. I don’t doubt his talent. I do doubt his ability to get over the immense wall that seems to be in his head when he’s wearing Blaugrana.

    • outerspacedout
      May 19, 2011

      Rossi is 23, Bojan is 20.

      Much as I would love Bojan to succeed, my head tells me that Rossi would be a much safer choice and is still young enough to be a long-term option like Bojan potentially is.

      I really really wish Bojan could succeed with us whether with a loan or buy-back. But my head says Rossi for a deal where Bojan is valued at 15mil does make sense.

    • Josep
      May 19, 2011

      So Bojan’s valuation is 15? The only thing is I think Pep, the club, and Catalans alike will be willing to let him try for 2-3 more years. and I agree. I don’t want a bite-me-in-the-ass transfer.

      besides, I’m against any in-and-out transfer. if we secure more players first than an upgrade is fine, but not a straight out 1 in 1. we need depth.

    • Blow-Grenade
      May 19, 2011

      I believe Barca need a forward who can hold the ball with their back facing the goal, better even, turn the defenders and score. Eto’o, Drogba, Torres. I am not a proponent of another midget in the front line, or, somebody who will not fit with the tiki-taka style of play. I would rather keep Bojan who would at least keep the ball moving.

      • Blow-Grenade
        May 19, 2011

        I would also add Rooney and Van Persie in the mix there.

    • Sheena
      May 19, 2011

      I’d be gutted to see Bojan go, I honestly think he’ll eventually make it at Barcelona. People seem to forget that not everyone is going to mature as fast as someone like Messi did. Bojan needs time, time which he isn’t going to get by the looks of things.

      That being said, I wouldn’t say no to the Rossi deal. Despite our defenders dropping like flies throughout the season, we’ve been remarkably lucky when it comes to the fitness of our frontline. One wrong footplant from any member of our MVP, and things would have been a whole lot more complicated.

      I’d also really like us to get Trezeguet. I know he isn’t the most exciting choice, but Hercules are going down, and he’ll be cheap. He hasn’t been in the most sparkling form as of late, but he’s a decent finisher and he’ll add some much needed height to our frontline. If not him, then Forlan perhaps.

    • Jnice
      May 19, 2011

      20m plus Bojan is too much for Rossi. 30m is too much for Rossi. I want Sanchez, but he’ll go to Inter or City, so I see us paying around 30m for Rossi, unfortunately.

      • Lev
        May 19, 2011

        I`d rather we bought Rossi straight-up than include Bojan in the deal.

      • May 19, 2011

        I agree, but I don’t see us giving 30M for Rossi. That’s ridiculous. It makes more sense to do 30M + Bojan for Cesc, as much as I am in denial about it, I think that is a more likely scenario.

    • Barcaleya
      May 19, 2011

      This makes me happy.

      Visca Andre Villas-Boas! And he’s cute too 😀

      So glad that many coaches who have been winning say that they take inspiration from Pep and Barca. Just like Frank de Boer saying that he made videos to show the Ajax players how to put pressure and build from the back.

    • Jnice
      May 19, 2011

      Yep. Before I read that earlier today, I knew Villas-Boas considered Pep one of the coaches he respects and admires just based on Porto’s approach to the game and the way they play.

      • May 19, 2011

        Remember that I listed him in my After-Pep candidates list to coach Barca, weeks ago on twitter.

        Now I have another reason 🙂

  35. May 19, 2011

    Buying Rossi would address a significant problem. But selling or loaning out Bojan creates another one.

    If Bojan is included in any transaction Barca needs 2 forwards this summer.

    If they brought in Rossi and then an older player as a more classic 9 then that would make sense. Rossi alone while getting rid of Bojan still leaves considerable problems in depth.

    Also – it seems silly season really is in full bloom now – via barcastuff:

    Atletico players Forlan (31) and Aguero (22) have been offered to Barcelona, that has postponed all transfer talks until after CL final [md]

    If Barca has a chance to acquire Aguero they should do it. Full stop.

    Aguero’s ability on the ball, his capacity to operate in confined space, his directness of play and pace are all qualities that would be ideal for Barca’s need.

    It seems like Pep does not want to spend big on a classic 9 like Llorente. If that’s the case then Aguero makes a great deal of sense. (though sport did report that Barca may be interested in Leandro Damiao which is a very interesting idea if he can be acquired reasonably for around 10M or so).

    Who knows if it’s true of course but it is clear that Barca is going to add a striker.

    • Josep
      May 19, 2011

      I said the same thing about the depth issue we can’t throw cash + player at a player. Hopefully now that YOU said it people will actually believe it 👿

      I thought Damiao was the CB? I think I’m wrong.

      Aguero = 45m = sorry no can do.

      And I heard from @Adz77 on twitter that “Atletico Madrid today came out and said Kun is not for sale”.

      • May 19, 2011

        Damiao is a striker. He’s relatively tall and very strong. He started for Brazil against Scotland in the middle in that international friendly earlier this season.

        It was interesting as it seemed like Menzes was almost going back to Dunga’s template. Damiao is sort of in the mold of Luis Fabiano.

        We have to see how much Aguero costs and more importantly how much he costs relative to alternatives.

        He is going to leave this summer in all likelihood. In his last contract he forced his release clause to be negotiated down. How often does that ever happen for a 22 year of his caliber? He’s going to leave.

        • K_legit
          May 19, 2011

          not just any old reduction, a 15 mill reduction from 60 mil Euros to 45 mill Euros..that is a significant drop in the buy-out fee.

        • Josep
          May 19, 2011

          oh duh. I had Damiao confused with that young argentinian cb. Damiao is good, and was just called up for the holland friendly (hulk wasn’t, heh)

    • May 19, 2011

      “It seems like Pep does not want to spend big on a classic 9 like Llorente. If that’s the case then Aguero makes a great deal of sense.”

      I dont think Aguero will cost less than Llorente, who is better for Barcelona.

      And regarding Aguero, a great player, again qouting a previous twitter discussion:

      “Think of it this way: Aguero cant do anything Messi cant as a 9, and cant do anything Sanchez cant on the flank, for half price”

      • May 19, 2011

        I also very much prefer Llorente. I think he would ideal and have written that here before several times. Llorente could be potentially transformative.

        And his relative lack of form in the second half of the season may make him easier to acquire as the competition for him may have cooled some.

        That said – I just don’t know if Pep wants to retry the experiment of integrating a “big man” into the system. I just don’t see an indication that this is a direction they want to go in – perhaps that’s just misdirection in the silly season. I hope so as I would love for them to get Llorente. I just don’t know if he’s someone they are going to pursue.

        As with everything it depends on price and price vs. alternatives on Aguero. But I do think he’s better than both Rossi and Sanchez. And I think both Rossi and Sanchez will also be very expensive. Not as much as Aguero but potentially more over inflated in price than Aguero is. I don’t know if they can get Sanchez for 20M.

        • I used to really like Kun but I don’t think he has any regular form for the past 2 years…and I really don’t see how he would fit the system. Not enough work rate and I would actually take Bojan on the flank over Kun. Can’t see him playing like flase 9 either. Too much money for too little in my opinion

          • May 19, 2011

            Put Kun on Barca and have Pep coach him while he plays alongside Messi – I think all of that changes.

            I think playing for Athletico has sucked the spirit out of Kun. He is immensely talented.

            But as you point out there is risk related to acquiring him given his track record of productivity. A player like Rossi and even Sanchez would have less risk.

    • K_legit
      May 19, 2011

      I’d go for Forlan in a heartbeat, on form dude was a deadly finisher..Aguero is a no-no as he offers nothing new as compared to the forwards we have at present..while Forlan will (hopefully) accept a bench type role and develop into the crucial role that iMonument (remember him? :D) played with us….

      Bojan’s impending loan/sale/sale-with-buyback is a sore-spot for me..I have always wanted him to make it big with the first team but I wish he had taken Pep’s advice and spent that one extra year with the B team.

      My ideal transfer this season would be the buy-back of Botia, and one of Rossi or Forlan but I’d not pay more than 35 mill (if Rossi’s involved) combined on these transfers..

      • K_legit
        May 19, 2011

        Oh and I would add Trezegol to the mix as well seeing as I don’t think he will like playing in the Segunda

  36. So R.madrid have officaly signed Altintop…WHY?!
    Which players are they going to register?! Didn’t they have way too many already?! And if I’m not mistaken at least 4-6 of them HAVE to be canteranos according to UEFA rules right?!

  37. May 19, 2011

    Ahh silly season. I love this time of year 🙂

    We need to buy 3 players to give us depth and that doesnt mean 3 players who may or may not be good enough for the first team, that means 3 players who are definitely good enough and who will add quality depth and competition (see Mascherano as a perfect example).

    A CF is the most important of these 3, because as good as MEssi is we cannot keep relying on him for goals and clearly Villa isnt going to be the goal scoring machine everyone expected in his role at Barca. We need a proper striker. I would love Llorente, but I have a feeling Madrid will get there first. Rossi is great, but he doesnt really meet our current need. Top of my list is Drogba, who I think we could get for a reasonable price if Chelsea want to sell. Thats a big if though.

    I have to say Sanchez looks like a very exciting player, but again does he really do anything that our current crop of strikers dont do? We can now add Afellay to the mix because he looks the business.

    The big question in my mind is do we sell Bojan. If the answer is yes then I suppose Rossi + another more traditional CF would make sense. Perhaps a cheaper option like Trez or Forlan.

    For me the midfield is stacked and I dont think we need to buy anymore midfield players. Xavi, Iniesta, Busi, Msscherano, Keita, Thiago all vying for 3 spots. You can probably add Afellay and maybe even Adriano to that list. Not only is that depth but I challenge anyone to find me a better midfield in club football.

    CB is a must. I think considering Adriano’s versatility and form we can be pretty confident in our fullbacks. Abidals incredible comeback makes that even more true. Not sure who I would want as a CB and I think for our style of play it is maybe one of the toughest positions to fill.

    One thing is for sure. I do not want Cesc. No way, no how. He is going to push for the transfer and he may get Arsenal to go down from 50 to 40 but I still dont want him. We dont need him. That 40m should be spent on much more important positons.

    • May 19, 2011

      “..does he really do anything that our current crop of strikers dont do?..” Thats my sentiment about Rossi. I know many are “impressed” with him, I’m not. He’s another Villa in my eyes.
      I like Sanchez, if he were a tad cheaper, which Im sure he can be. If Ibrah, a big 9,couldn’t make it I doubt Llorente would do much good.

      Cesc is coming. He’s not playing anymore matches with Arsenal and I can see Barça giving 30M plus one or two players, QF wants to market itself with our name, and Cesc is the perfect way to do it.

      • just listenin
        May 19, 2011

        I agree with the comment about Rossi = Villa. I was watching highlight reels of Rossi and then went to watch them of Villa with Valencia and if you squint they could be the same, a lot of running onto the ball in space on a break, with a decent amount of time on the ball to make decisions. Very similar, made me think he may have the same challenges of touch and decision making that have plagued Villa at the speed and compressed space required up front for Barca to unlock opponents defensive tactics. I thought Villa would have a 25-30 goal season… I wonder if a little rest, time to reflect and practice over the summer couldn’t bring him back different.

        I’ve always thought Iniesta could be a bigger scoring threat for us if he wasn’t so humble and generous toward playing for attackers. IMO he has what it takes to score in the Barca system because he has so much of what makes Messi so amazing, the combination of excellent ball control, maneuverability, play-maker decision skills and a good shot. Almost seems we need really skilled attacking midfielders on our front line, that are comfortable going for goal.

    • May 19, 2011

      My wishlist: Sakho and Llorente.

      I mentioned Sanchez just in case we looked toward the likes of Rossi (who is too Villa-stic for me) or Aguero (who serve no specific upgrade and will expect a definite starting role).

      • May 19, 2011

        I’m there with you. Talked about Llorente before. Sakho would potentially be a great fit.

        They must find a young center back with experience who has pace to pair with Pique. I don’t see how they can play Pique and Fontas together. Neither has good pace.

        Sakho is left footed. Can play both CB and LB if needed. He has good pace. Captain of PSG. I’ve liked what I’ve seen from him.

        If they buy Sakho this summer they can give him a full year to integrate as they can play Abidal at CB with Adriano at LB. Puyol can play in strategically important matches to save wear on him. Sakho can play as needed to learn the system. He could also play some LB as he learns given that it’s a less high risk position in the system.

        • Humphrey Bogart
          May 19, 2011

          I really like Llorente, but after the failed attemapt with Ibra why should we try with a big immobile target man again, and more important where would you place Messi on the pitch then?

          Answers from tactical geniuses like Ramzi or Euler would be appreciated

  38. Extreme barca fan
    May 19, 2011

    I dont like speculation, but since its that time of year, why not.
    I guess we will be going for Cesc, not that we need him, but because we want him, since he is the lost child and whatever.
    This will consume most of our transfer kitty, so we might just go for Botia with his buy back clause and someone like trezeguet who i assume will b cheap.

      • vicsoc
        May 19, 2011

        Forlan is a good choice, but not for the 10 million Euros I’ve been hearing. He should cost half that, at most.

      • Miguel
        May 19, 2011

        I was listening to Quique Sanchez’s farewell speech a couple days ago and he was talking about how difficult it was having to deal with Forlan. He was all mea culpa about it but he also said that he has dealt with some egos in his time as a coach but that the Uruguayan was something special.

        • blitzen
          May 19, 2011

          Not at all surprised to hear it. I’ve been saying all along that Goldie is difficult to work with. You don’t get a rep like that for nothing (you listening, Hleb?).

          I’m going to miss Quique. I hope he stays in the League so I can lust watch him next season.

          • Miguel
            May 19, 2011

            The Eye-liner-wearing One will be missed. 🙁

  39. Blow-Grenade
    May 19, 2011

    Any thoughts on Falcao or Hulk?

  40. Miguel
    May 19, 2011

    Tim Stannard on the new Barça kits:

    http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/laligaloca/archive/2011/05/19/have-bar-231-a-blown-the-champions-league-with-their-unicef-sell-out.aspx

    Barça’s blistering form over the past three years has been driven like a nuclear reactor in a Robin Reliant by the natural forces of smugness produced from displaying the name of UNICEF on the front of the club shirt – a goody-two-shoes gesture that had José Mourinho pondering naughtily if that alone hadn’t been enough to propel them into two Champions League finals in three years.
    In the Madrid manager’s defence the humungous amount of energy generated by the gleaming aura of self-satisfaction gained from the UNICEF deal has not just powered the football club but also the electrical grids of the Camp Nou, the city of Barcelona, Cataluyna and some parts of France.
    Unfortunately, this super-charged success has come to an end with Barcelona showing off their new shirts for the season to come – shirts which have UNICEF relegated to the bottom of the back of the jersey with the club’s new imperial overlords, The Qatar Foundation, on the front – a result of the €30 million a year deal between the two institutions’ contribution to the Barca cause.

  41. Josep
    May 19, 2011

    Sakho, Botia need to come. Botia because its too cheap to say no. Sakho can be the heir to Puyol. He’s a leader, left-footed. If he comes now it’d be huge as he could learn under Puyi, and Abi who won’t play at this level for much longer. It will be an implementing and rotating year before he eventually takes over. Next year will be too late and we need to jump on it, someone tweeted he’s going to renew his contract until 2014 I believe.

    we’re set in midfield. With thiago promoted and JDS and Sergi Roberto being given this pre-season a shot, please don’t bring in cesc.

    Sanchez. IMO he’s our perfect fit at RW, he can be asked to stay wide or move more central. He seldom does but can play very Messi-like 9 if needed. 30m on him is way better than 30m on Rossi.

    Kanoute. We need that big impact bench striker.

    VV
    Alves Pique Puyi Abidal
    Busquets
    Xavi Iniesta
    Sanchez Messi Villa

    Bench

    Pinto
    Sakho
    Adriano
    Keita
    Masch
    Afellay
    Bojan

    thoughts?

    • Josep
      May 19, 2011

      I mentioned signing Kanoute then left him off my bench because I doubt that we’ll go for it.

      • Josep
        May 19, 2011

        damn I forgot Thiago too. Guys with a little depth this team will be insane. Smart signings and not overspending is key this summer.

        Maxwell will be needed for eventual injuries and we have no young LBs ready in case. So we should keep hold of Maxwell

  42. May 19, 2011

    @Humphrey Bogart representing a common view:

    “I really like Llorente, but after the failed attemapt with Ibra why should we try with a big immobile target man again”

    I will not argue about “the failed attempt with Ibra”. I will just say, after two failed attempts with Belletti and Zambrotta we still had the courage to invest 30 M on another offense oriented fullback, Alves. The rest is history. Hleb then Afellay? I can see Pep taking the safe option instead of the right one. Just count on Messi as offense reference and avoid debatable decisions.

    “more important where would you place Messi on the pitch then”

    Just where he played this season. Everywhere moving freely at well. With one modification: When he run back to high-five with Valdes, there should still be a player positioned as a tip of offense arrow, bothering the opponent defense.

    Add to that, a Llorente in the center will naturaly push the opponent fullback/s wide to prevent crosses rather than stacking them in the center to close spaces (like this season). That mean more wholes in the center. Nothing cheers Messi more than finding more spaces to expose.

    Note: Alves has always been our right wing. And will always be. If you know what I mean…

    • blitzen
      May 19, 2011

      Look, I like Llorente as much as the next person, but you are all delusional if you think we are actually going to bid on him. No way is he going to come and sit on our bench, nor, at his age, should he. I will be very surprised if he leaves Bilbao this summer.

      • May 19, 2011

        I dont think he will leave Bilbao as well, but you are so very extremely ultimately delusional if you think Llorente will have to sit on the bench:)

        Villa/Pedro-Llorente-Messi Villa play some matches in the center as well and Afellay get playing time on flank plus midfield. Piece of cake.

        • Josep
          May 19, 2011

          if Llorente does come it can spell Villa if he goes thru another dry spell.

          I heard reports today that Llorente (like Sakho) was about to sign a new contract.

          Now this could mean he is signing a new contract and staying… or he is signing a new contract and wants Bilbao to get the most of his transfer.

        • Miguel
          May 19, 2011

          I don’t think Llorente would sit on the bench but I do think his learning curve would be as long, if not longer, as Villa’s. I’d much rather bid for Gomez from Bayern. He’s used to playing attacking/passing football and being the focal point of an attack in a formation with three strikers up top. He’s had van Gaal break him in for us.

          • blitzen
            May 19, 2011

            I keep agreeing with you today. That can’t be a good thing. 😛

            Except for the thing about Gomez. His hair frightens me and I suspect he wouldn’t come cheap. Speaking of Bayern, though, isn’t Klose out of contract this summer? He could come on a free transfer. His wages would be high, mind you.

  43. Humphrey Bogart
    May 19, 2011

    Re Llorente I think they have elections in Bilbao this summer, so I doubt they will sell one of their main assets if they do not have to. ButI always had the feeling that Barca is closer to his heart than Madrid from what he sais in interviews.

  44. Nik
    May 19, 2011

    I’d love to get Llorente, but the price-tag would be ridiculous. I’m pretty sure we’d end up spending most of our transfer kitty on him. We can’t afford to do that (though I’d rather spend all of it on Llorente than Cesc).

    Also, as mentioned by blitzen & Ramzi, Llorente would end up in the starting line-up. Our offense will go through a period of adjustment, as Llorente adjusts to our style (& hopefully vice versa as well). We definitely will not be putting up manitas left and right, and there will definitely be some ugly games to watch. If Pep does go down the Llorente route, I hope that fans & the media will keep the faith and not jump on Pep & the players.

  45. Jnice
    May 19, 2011

    On twitter from french writer Jamie Dalton: The world and his wife had scouts at the Coupe De France final. Barcelona were the only ones to enquire direct about Mamdou Sakho.

    I asked him if Barça’s interest was real and he said: “I think so. Seems it.”

    Hope it is.

    • May 19, 2011

      I hope so too. This would be very good news. I’ve made it a point to try to watch PSG and have been impressed with Sakho. He would definitely need a transition period. And it’s always difficult to judge a players touch outside of the barca system (see villa…).

      But those are all reason why he (or a player with that skill set) should be brought in this year when he can slowly adjust and learn from Puyol and Abidal.

      Many cules liked David Luiz. But he was never the kind of central defender Barca needed. That player must be a complement to Pique. This is very unfortunate for Fontas. As good as Fontas is – he’s too much like Pique. Luiz is in that mold of CB – he also doesn’t have enough pace to play on that high line alongside Pique.

      This is the first concrete link between Bara and Sakho in a while. And it’s coming out of French source not a Catalan one.

      The club really needs to address this issue. It is imperative – as important if not more important the striker situation.

    • Vj
      May 19, 2011

      Watch and learn Eklavya/vaderspacedout ..

  46. Dani_el
    May 19, 2011

    I saw some game-plays of Sakho, and keeping in mind his age (21 years) and his involvement in the club where he plays(being captain), I think he would be and excellent choice for centerback, and in top of that he can also play in the left, I think having Abi in the team (also a french speaker, as keita too) would be excellent to teach him the Barça way, I dont know about his personality though, Pep made sure of checking the dressing room character of Afellay before signing him, we have to acknowledge we’re a team that takes very serious the “feeling”…
    I think we have 50 million plus sellings (Milito, Maxwell, Keirrison, Henrique, Hleb, and maybe Botia if we buy him back, maybe he needs first a chance with the team) asumming someone give us 3 -5 million for milito, 5-7 million for maxwell, 3 for keirrison, 3 for Henrique, and 1 for Hleb (I hope)we would have at least 15 million more for buys…
    65 million, according to transfermarkt Sakho’s cost would be 13.5 million, lets put 15 million for him…
    http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/mamadou-sakho/profil/spieler_47713.html
    Llorente costs according to transfer markt 20 million, but we would have to buy him off his clause, I think it’s 35 million + IVA (taxes), it would be more than 50 million I believe, we wouldn’t spent that much in him, unless Atletic de Bilbao WANTS to sell him, then we could negotiate (our own Zubi has excelent relations with his former club).
    What about Hulk? he’s over 1.80, he has pace, he’s pretty technical (being brazilian) and he’s a pretty decent wingman (he can play from the right making competition for Pedro) and he’s the current champion of the europa league, according to Trankfermarkt he would cost us 21 million, so we would have:
    Sakho : 13.5 million
    Hulk : 21 million
    And he would have 30 million plus change for another signing, maybe Cesc, imagine those 3 signings for next season, that would be great! Pep would be happy, we would add competition to our own squad, Pep would sign for another year in december (after wining the clubs world cup, again if… hopefully we win in London). Sorry for the length of my ramble, I would like to see what you guys think about this…

    • soccermomof4
      May 19, 2011

      Can Hulk be as good in a better league?

    • –I haven’t really even thought of specific signings of the positions. Your list and strategy makes sense to me, but I don’t think we’ll sell Maxwell. We have a habit of keeping players longer than needed.

      –In all honestly, I don’t even know who Sakho was until this thread. I haven’t seen him or PSG or any French team bar Lyon play this season.

      –Hulk seems like a beast, but there’s not telling how well he’d do outside of the Portuguese league.

      • Eklavya
        May 19, 2011

        Sakho captained PSG at the age of 17 and eight months.

        • Eklavya
          May 19, 2011

          I don’t see Hulk at Barca, although he’s very good in confined spaces, I’m sure he’ll do well wherever he goes. He has a tireless attitude.

  47. soccermomof4
    May 19, 2011

    If I could have any striker in the world right it would be Chicharito. Not gonna happen but a cule can dream (Wouldn’t it be wierd to have a Xavier Hernandez and a Javier Hernandez?)
    Since that can’t happen, Rossi (who is used to playing a similar style) and Kanoute (as a plan B off the bench) would be cool. Gomez would be cool as well. Llorente is too expensive and I think we would end up with a BANGS minus the attitude situation.

    I’m almost ready to say just buy Cesc already and get it over with so we don’t have to hear about it anymore.

    • Barcaleya
      May 19, 2011

      When I really, really think about it – I agree! Forget that it’s not going to happen. But yes…..it would be Chicharito for me too!

      I haven’t watched many of the players being mentioned here. Except for the old ones – as I used to follow Trezeguet in Juve, Forlan in Man U, Kanoute in West Ham.

      From what I’m reading though, it seems like Sakho would be a good buy for a CB. I just think it’s awesome that if we get him, we get another team captain. Masch is team capt for Arg NT, Affelay for PSV and Sakho of PSG. We’re a team full of leaders! Yay! And that’s because our two geniuses (Messi and Iniesta) are so shy and modest and retiring.

  48. culegirl3
    May 19, 2011

    I want Bojan out. He isn’t the same as before and clearly he needs some serious playing time and even more encouragement so Valencia or Villarreal would be good for him IMO.

    What about Pato?? He’s young, tall(sort of), has scored 16 goals in 32 appearances this season, no to mention he’s good looking 😀

    • Vj
      May 19, 2011

      You want to swap out one inconsistent CF for an injury prone one?

  49. stowe
    May 19, 2011

    don’t mind the thin strips on the home kit, I DON’T like the solid sleeves. I think that ruins the shirt. If the sleeves were striped it would be fine or great.
    Black is cool. Wish it was still Unicef, then it would look really sweet

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