Okay, we’ve heard from one side of the debate — about if Busi’s guilty and/or the club’s responsibility — but it’s time for another side.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Can anyone here tell me what that means? No, really. What does it mean? I’m not sure people know anymore.
The notion comes from the Latin legal principle that ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat, or the burden of proof rests on he who asserts, not on he who denies.
Ei incumbit probatio, qui dicit, non qui negat; cum per rerum naturam factum negantis probatio nulla sit/The proof lies upon he who asserts, not upon he who denies; since, by the nature of things, he who denies a fact cannot produce any proof.
–The Latin legal principle of the burden of proof
First thing’s first, let’s look at the context; the feelings and events leading up to the accusation.
On November 29, 2010, FC Barcelona beats The Evil Empire 5-0. It was our fifth win in a row against them and it was a performance that awed many.
On February 28, 2011, EE coach Jose Mourinho accuses the RFEF of favouring FC Barcelona, citing the Liga fixture list favours the Catalan Club.
On March 13, 2011, Spanish radio station Cadena Cope broadcasted the news that that two clubs, FC Barcelona and Valencia CF, collaborate with doctors “who are less than reputable”. The programme also stated The Evil Empire will ask the Spanish Football Federation (RFEF) for tighter and more serious doping controls in Spanish football.
On March 14, 2011, FC Barcelona and Valencia CF vehemently denied these allegations and asked for an immediate retraction. Later that day, Cadena Cope issued an apology stating they got their information for a source from the Evil Empire.
On April 15, 2011, FC Barcelona officially took legal action against the station.
On April 27, 2011, after losing 0-2 to Barcelona, EE coach Jose Mourinho rants in his post match press conference of a UEFA, RFEF and Unicef based conspiracy in favour of FC Barcelona. The comments are outrageous and hold no basis.
On April 28, 2011, Madrid based TV show Punto Pelota release a manipulated video of the Pepe-Alves red card incident, taking out frames that had shown the contact.
On April 29, 2011, FC Barcelona file an official complaint to UEFA. FC Barcelona accuse Mourinho of slander and publicly deface the club.
On May 2, 2011, The Evil Empire back their coach and accuse FC Barcelona of unsporting behaviour, and file a complaint to UEFA as well. They want 8 Barcelona players suspended for the aforementioned unsporting behaviour. The Evil Empire also release a video on their official website, denouncing the appointment of the referee Franck De Bleeckere, as well as Barcelona players Sergio Busquets and Pedro Rodriquez as play actors. The video includes Busquets allegedly calling Marcelo a monkey; the clip is subtitled “mono, mono”.
The same day, UEFA dismissed the cases of the Evil Empire and FC Barcelona, who are referred to UEFA’s own investigation against the Evil Empire.
On May 3, 2011, after being eliminated from the Champions League, several EE players, including but not limited to, Cristiano Ronaldo, Xabi Alonso and Iker Casillas accused and/or denounced the referees of favouring Barcelona over both legs and/or influencing the tie.
On May 6, 2011, UEFA ban Mourinho for 5 games (one that is served and 2 that are suspended until later date) for his post-match comments. The Evil Empire say they will appeal the decision.
On May 12 2011, UEFA open an investigation against Sergio Busquets in light of racism allegations.
Now that we’ve gotten that out of the way, the next thing we look at regarding the Busi affair is Barca’s point of view:
- The accusations from or surrounding the Evil Empire; that is, the doping allegations, the fixture lists, and unsporting behaviour, have been strenuously denied and/or dismissed. Keep in mind the strength of an allegation comes from confidence the accuser is in good faith morally and there is conclusive evidence.
- At this point, all EE sources, specifically Xabi Alonso, have said to refer to the video regarding the racism allegations, rather than express the accusation verbally and committing to the stance. This is odd given the video has been put on their official website using the subtitles “mono, mono”.
- As the allegation isn’t a formal one at this point, it is not FC Barcelona’s job to acknowledge it. It is only an insinuation from an inconclusive video. The video is inconclusive because there are many interpretations of the video and what is being said is not clear.
- If FC Barcelona comment, even to deny the statement, it is committing to a stance and therefore acknowledging an accusation that is not directly expressed but touched on and implied, and one that has no real source as it is being spread virally (i.e. online, through the internet).
- It is The Evil Empire’s job to formally launch a complaint against FC Barcelona, or for UEFA to open an investigation. If the club of the player that has suffered an alleged racist slur is unwilling to commit and formally accuse Barcelona of the aforementioned slur to the governing body, there is absolutely no need for FC Barcelona to give the accusation any real weight. It is the accuser’s job to prove there is a case to be made.
- As said in the post before this, UEFA launched an investigation. At this point, The Evil Empire have comitted to the stance that Sergio Busquets has called Marcelo a monkey. Now that they are formally being accused, FC Barcelona have denied the accusation. Through their official media channel Barca TV, representative of Barcelona have relayed the message of Sergio Busquets who claims he has said “mucho morro”, or “what nerve”. Busquets has committed to the stance he is innocent now that there is an official accusation.
- It is now The Evil Empire’s job to prove that Busquets is lying. A video is not enough as it cannot count as proof. They need to prove, whether it is a verbal confession from Marcelo or otherwise, that Busquets has specially and definitely said “monkey, monkey” to Marcelo. The burden of proof rests on the one who asserts, not on the one who denies.
My personal thoughts on the issue:
Sergio Busquets is probably the most disliked player on the team. From the cule point of view, this hatred stemmed from his inexperience in the first team when he first came up in the 08/09 season. His backward headers caused many a counter attack, his passes were loose, conceding posession in dangerous areads and he has a penchant to go to ground easily. Many were frustrated at Guardiola’s persistence use of him instead on one The Yaya Toure, commencing a never ending debate coined the Busi-Yaya Debate. In the end, the Ivorian mountain left for cloudier skies and this move was met with anger and distain. This hatred towards Busi reached its apex last year in the 2nd leg of the CL semi-final; the infamous “peek-a-boo”. He is the one everyone loves to hate; never mind that he was Spain’s best player in this past WC but l digress.
For many, Busi is a diver. Because no team has ever had a embellisher on their team, being so morally superior than everyone else, and Busi is seen as the master, in the minds of many it’s not unthinkable that he would be a racist too. I mean, he’s already sullying the beautiful game with his rolls, why wouldn’t he call a person a monkey? We don’t really need proof — this implication from a rival who hates us and will do everything in their power to deride and belittle us is enough. Heck, our club is potentially backing a racist; how horrible is that? Oh, but Busi is innocent until proven guilty, of course.
I have one thing to say about this view: it’s bullsh*t.
I’m not sorry, and it is. People are letting their prejudice towards Busquets get in the way. What makes it worse is that it is coming from cules as well.
Before people jump on my back and say “how dare you attack us, Kari!”, allow me explain. I have no problems with people who feel that Busi said “mono”. Zero, in fact. If people want transparency from the club, I have no problems with that either — the biggest worry I had was that this would be swept under the carpet under the pretense that the tie is over and we move on.
I do have a problem with people who take the innocent until proven guilty stance, starting their sentences with “I know Busi isn’t guilty but if he is….” and then go on to lambaste the player. If you think he’s guilty, say so. Just say it. Otherwise, you fall into the category of “with fans like these, who needs detractors?”
If the club has a responsibility to be honest with the fans, the fans equally have a responsibility to trust the club. What is the point of transparency if the one being told is going to doubt what you say anyway? We, as fans, have a responsibility to our club.
Prior to the official complaint to UEFA, the source of these allegations came from a single video that was slowed down. Given that the video of the red card incident with Pepe and Alves were manipulated, who is to say this video wasn’t? We have basis — we have proof — to believe this — the aforementioned manipulated red card incident where frames were taken out. Do I think the video is altered some way? I don’t know. No one knows — except Marcelo and Busi.
I never bought the “EE aren’t saying anything because it stays on the pitch and if they put it on the official website, Marcelo must have been asked” argument. In fact, I’ll quote exactly what I had said:
I’m sticking my head out defending Busi, so I’ll be majorly pissed if he turns out guilty. The problem with “innocent until proven guilty” stance is that people aren’t sticking with it — the reaction is more “guilty until proven innocent” because of Busi’s rep.
Look, he gets a lot of crap, deservedly, but I just think there are so many reasons to think he’s innocent. It’s not fair that we automatically assume he’s guilty — none of us are lip-readers I’m assuming. I just don’t think the innocent until proven guilty camp are really thinking about the “innocent” part.
1) EE are throwing everything and the kitchen sink hoping something sticks. Mourinho is childish in that he thinks that if he can’t beat us, he’ll demean us and our achievements. His ego is that big and he seems to have a complex in regards to Barca.
2) There are no boundaries — EE are doing EVERYTHING, even if it has to be the race card. I just don’t think they are thinking anything through; that was confirmed when they wanted 8 of our player including Messi to be suspended. This is a team that complains about diving when the worst of the divers are on their team (TB and Dive Maria). Even their most respectable players have turned into whiners.
Since there are no boundaries, wouldn’t it be easier just to get Marcelo to say, “yeah, he said it”. Why do they do it? Because they don’t want that affirmation and they aren’t sure themselves. I don’t buy the “they must have asked Marcelo and that’s why they put it on their official website”. Players are openly deriding the ref, calling our players cheaters, and their website has derided the ref as well. Having Marcelo confirm one of our players said a racial slur would be the icing, right?
But they aren’t sure and they don’t want to firmly say it because they WANT the doubt. They WANT people to doubt Barca, about their stance. They want people to question, “Why aren’t they coming out with a statement? Maybe something IS there and they don’t want to admit it”
And in the end, people will stop supporting the club — even before there is a definite answer.
EE and Mourinho are THAT despicable and I don’t think people realize this. It’s because it’s Busi and his rep that people are not sure. They think “Well, he’s done the diving, who’s to say he didn’t say ‘mono'”. That’s not fair.
4) We won’t investigate — UEFA will. Just like Pep said, “UEFA will decide. If he’s guilty, we’ll be very upset and we will take appropriate measures.” EE won’t force us to turn against our own player — we stand by Busi until proven otherwise. And I’m going to do that same.
Right now, we’re crucifying our player based on a video provided by our hated rivals who had refused to comment. Do we have that little trust in this club? Really? We talk about “In Pep We Trust” and “Visca Barca” and yet we abandon the club at the first sign of strife.
Sid Lowe claims our coach admitted Busi was guilty by using the wrong quotes, but people took his word as law and began castigating the club. In the time where The Evil Empire are doing everything and anything to make us look bad, we believe it this easily? Just use common sense for a second.
The lack of faith and support for the club and player is shocking as it is disappointing. Are we really that fair-weather?
As for right now, EE only have that video and they are using that video — which was uploaded by a fan of theirs on YouTube before it was taken down — and the point of it is to create doubt. They want people to doubt the club’s integrity and some of you are falling for it.
Did Busi say it? We don’t know, so why are we siding with Marcelo and EE instead of Busi and Barca? It seems that some want Busi to be guilty. Why? Will Busi being a racist make your prejudice against him that much easier? Will Busi being a racist mean he should have never been in the team and that will somehow bring Yaya back? Why in the world would you want a player on your team to be racist? Answer me that.
Remember when Pep called Mourinho “el puto jefe” of the press room? This is what he means, and the Bartomeu comments are just another example. Since people are so keen to read between the lines — rather than read what is actually being said, think about this for a second. He’s not just talking about Mourinho directly but all things EE.
EE have been launching a propaganda war against us from Day One. They are doing it now, like they have all season, like they will continue to do in the future. Mourinho is such a media man that people in the media will constantly be falling over themselves and discussing what he has and hasn’t said. They love the controversial characters that have no boundaries. They love to discuss and revel in the conspiracy theories, thinking “oooh, maybe this is what Mourinho means. Look!”
We can’t win their media war — we can’t compete and we don’t want to. We have given them their personal Champions League trophy.
What we have done is talk on the pitch and we have our reward — the chance to win the actual Champions.
EE are the sorest losers I have ever had the misfortune of seeing. They are doing everything they can to belittle our achievements and people are given them an alley.
Of course they are going to have their hands in all the media sources, and you’re going to hear that kind of stuff against us. PEP SAID THAT. We can’t compete! You want to constantly read between the lines? Read between those lines!
EE has launched a propaganda war against us, who has back their coach who said we are in cahoots with UEFA, and we take their word over our own team’s on such a sensitive issue like this? Seriously?
We talk about the potential hypocrisy, but why not use to the fact we’ve produced anti-racism campaigns as proof our player is innocent? We have the altercation with Keita and Arbeloa in the same match at HT. Our normally mild mannered Malian reacted angrily — it is said that Arbeloa may have said a racist slur to him as well, but this isn’t talked about. Why? “Because we’re not sure. There’s no conclusive evidence”.
My thoughts exactly.
Just think about the timing of all these accusations for a second. We beat them at home, they create a media storm, throwing everything and the kitchen sink in hopes to distract people from their lame tactics they used. It worked. We win La Liga and they postpone their CDR tour until the day after. And then this investigation comes into light. They want our Liga win overshadowed. It worked.
I’ve said since the Alves manipulated video that anything that comes out is bullsh*t until proven legitimate. This is what’s going on.
This is serious business. Racism is not a joke. “Duh,” you say, “that’s why this is so big”, but I don’t think some of you really understand. Because racism is such a big deal, the accusers– the people bringing this up— must have a conclusive case. It’s either/or, not fudging around to sully the name of their bitter rivals. As an institution, a club of high stature, EE are putting their heads out that Busi DID say “mono” even though it hasn’t been confirmed. They’re taking this to another level and they need to be held accountable if this proves false. There is no half-assing, “oh well, I thought he said…” No. You brought this up and you better be sure you’re right, especially now that they’ve made a formal accusation.
Our club didn’t have to respond before, because no one accused them and there was no reason for them to say anything. The doping incident is different — the comments were made public, on record, and crucially, from a single direct source. We were accused and we responded and now we’re doing the same.
For all the crap Busi deservingly gets, I’ll stand by him on this one. Fudge him to heck if he said it, but considering people are taking out frames to make us seem like cheaters, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. And I ask which is worse: defending and housing a potential racist, or condemning a man of being racist based on prejudice rather than concrete evidence? I know my answer.
I’ll be majorly and truly pissed if he’s guilty because I’m sticking my head out and am defending him, but this is what the innocent until proven guilty stance is.
Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat
And we stand by our team, waiting for the pieces to fall into place like everyone else.