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The Other End of the Spectrum: Drop Zone City

So there are 3 matches left to play and you’re probably wondering who we’ll be facing in next year’s league. Well I’m here with a definitive list of all the teams that might fall into the drop zone this season. Some of them may surprise you. Here you go:

Definitely going down:


Probably going down:


In very real danger of relegation:

Real Zaragoza
Menorca Bàsquet
Real Sociedad
Detroit Lions
1899 Cleveland Spiders
The snows of Mt. Kiliminjaro
Lindsay Lohan

There ya go, folks, the whole thing.

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128 Responses to “The Other End of the Spectrum: Drop Zone City”

  1. Eklavya says:

    Very insightful and thoughtful piece, Isaiah, thanks! :)

  2. fcbfandrivel says:

    I hope 1930 Cleveland Spiders stay, I am really looking forward to Barca playing them next season. :)

  3. outerspacedout says:

    BANGS has been BANGing up some team-mates.

    Amidst the celebrations Zlatan delivered a kick to the back of Antonio Cassano’s head while he was giving an interview.
    So if you’re trying to keep track of Ibra’s violent hijinks, it started with him kicking Rodney Strasser in the back, then he tried to kick the ball out of Robinho’s shirt during a goal celebration, then he got in a training ground fight with Oguchi Onyewu, then he kicked Swedish teammate Christian Wilhelmsson. Now this.

  4. blitzen says:

    Definitely going up: Real Betis. And well-deserved, too!

    Amazing that the relegation battle is this tight with only 3 games left to play. I hope it’s Getafe or Depor that go down along with Hercules. As for poor Almeria, I found this quote on Sid Lowe’s blog:

    Almería. They’re heading back to the second division – and by bus too. Eight hours back from Getafe on Saturday night for them. “Second Division team, Second Division transport”. And, yes, that really is what their players were told.


  5. Vj says:

    I definitely wanna see LiLo going down..

  6. Josep says:

    For all you saying Sanchez isn’t good because of the YouTube videos go watch any of Chile’s matches at the WC. Or a specific match this season the 6-1 (I believe) versus Palermo. one goal was so brilliant. I’ve hoped we’d sign him for 2-3 years now.

    Everyone says Kun this, Kun that. AFAIK, Kun isn’t even on our radar…

    “IN: Aguero (whatever fee), Kanoute (5-8mil), Botia (2mil), another good young CB (5-10mil? dunno)
    PROMOTED: Thiago
    OUT LOAN: Bojan to.. wherever Enrique is coaching
    OUT: Ibrahimovic (24mil?), Caceres (12mil?), Keirrison (7mil?), Hleb (Xmil?), Milito (6mil?), Jeffren (8mil?)

    In Total: 72 mil (5 more players to squad)
    Out Total: 60 mil (2 less players from squad)”

    Kanoute could be 3-5 mil, Caceres I think his buyout is 5mil, Keirrison I’d love 7mil… 13 mil loss. Others look right..american dollars.

    • outerspacedout says:

      That was what I wrote as my highly unrealistic dream transfer window, actually.

      If you see what I wrote I said I’d seen little of Udinese but Sanchez looked quality, but that I think Aguero is maybe the best possible and wish we would sign him as unlikely as it seems.

      • Josep says:

        not singling you out boo!

        Just read the other posts with the “From what I’ve seen on YouTube he only does stepovers and would be a waste of money” and such.

        JNice is dead on the boy is very colorful. I personally am a huge fan. Though he might stunt Delofeu’s progress, but still. And someone said he was slow? lol.

    • Reaper says:

      to chime in here, i fail to understand why no one here rates Llorente that highly – especially to solve our plan B quandary. Phenomenal in the air, good with both feet, can defintely crash the ‘park the bus’ tactics and will almost certainly not cost more than 20m

      We don’t need players like Sanchez, Rossi or Kun.. we have them already. We HAVE to let our kids play more next season.

      PS. as much as everyone despises the arrival of Cesc, I’d personally love him playing for us.

  7. blitzen says:

    I’ve been playing around with The Guardian’s chalkboard feature, which is very cool:

    But of course it is only for Premier League games. Does anyone know of any sites that have a similar feature for Liga or CL games?

    In other news, I have just realized that there are only three more league games and one CL final and then the season is over. What am going to doooooo?????? I’ll die of boredom. I’ll be reduced to picking apart stats from old games to prove why Kxevin is the most biased idiot evah! 😉

  8. Jim says:

    Was it ever resolved whether Spain would be playing in that?

  9. Kxevin says:

    96K and small change soci requests for Finals tix. So I have an approximately 1 in 4 chance. I’ll take those odds.

    It warmed my heart to see Arsenal get whipped by Stoke yesterday. I don’t know why. But if Arsenal beat us and Stoke beat them, maybe we wouldn’t be all that good against Stoke on a cold winter’s day. 😀

  10. hammeronmessi says:

    I have seen some sanchez,especially the palermo one as josep mentioned.he is fantastic.has got tricks and pace. but when does barca need searining pace?we consistently have 70% possesion.

    and to joseo before u stating kun this and kun that,i remember the game when we lost 4 3 un the treble season.he murdered our backline.

    when u talk bout which players barca need,u should xplain the reason IMHO,or u can just say he is your favourite player as clearly as villa is the favorite player of kxevin.

  11. hammeronmessi says:

    thanks for the award.
    please dont say i m arrogant but i think i m the SPECIAL ONE

  12. hammeronmessi says:

    Sorry for many many spelling mistakes.

    still not used to the touch screen typo thing

  13. hammeronmessi says:


    what is this thing bout sanchez being colourful?

    is it like he is colourful like pique or showboating on the field ala TB?

  14. soccermomof4 says:

    16 odd minutes in, Fulham 0-3 Liverpool.
    Holy cow!

  15. Artur says:

    Someone posted this video of Sanchez on Puyol’s FB page ..

    Much more versatile than Rossi IMO … a great assister, has the Messi-never-dive feel to him too ..

  16. Extreme barca fan says:

    Are the AVATARS ever coming back??????????????????????

  17. Vj says:

    via Pep @ Barcastuff:

    Lucescu (coach Shakhtar): “The key to Madrid’s exit in the King’s Cup was the King. He was in the stands and they are the team of the Crown”

    Did he mean Abi?

  18. Lev says:

    I had never considered this until one of my culé students uttered: “Why don’t we try to get Eto’o back?”


  19. Josep says:

    Poor Juve..

  20. Josep says:

    haha I just downloaded this iMourinho app and its just a soundboard with some of his rants including ¿Por Que?

  21. floatilla says:

    Hi guys….this is totally OT but I was wondering if there are any peeps here who live in the Dallas Ft Worth area. I am looking to go to their match against Club America at the Cowboys stadium and was hoping to get together with other BFB’ers who may be going, or if there is already a group set up, can I tag along?…..:)

  22. barca96 says:


    Just because a player is not on our radar or at least not in the papers, doesn’t mean that Pep is not interested in “that” player. Sometimes it just happens.

  23. ooga aga says:

    amazing that only 4 points separate 9th place from 18th place (relegation) in La Liga after 35 games

  24. outerspacedout says:

    David Luiz is so awesome.

    He just seemed so likeable and awesome-haired from first time but aw the guy is just. Aw.

  25. 145culegirl says:

    I’ve found this video and someone should put this in some post.It’s so emotional and I’m wondering how Messi would react if he’s seen this video.I nearly cried.

  26. Cule_less says:

    Hey peeps, we have an exciting few weeks ahead of us huh?

    1-First thing, if you guys want to expand the football conversation outside of this space, I would suggest redcafe,net. Its a United forum on steroids. We have some really good, passionate and tactical thinkers on here and Im sure you will make a good showing over on their site. Just remember kill em’ with kindness, we are the favorites and have nothing to prove when we step on the field @ Wembley. Most of the fans there love Messi, are in awe of Barca, and despise some of our antics….not to different from a lot of people on this blog.

    2- I hope we can get into som CL final tactis soon, we are pretty set with our starting 11, but there is a real question on who SAF will play, and even what formation United will use. Many believe he has to counter our midfield three with five players, while others think United needs to come at us with either a 4-4-2 or “gasp” a 4-3-3. And who in the hell is going to play. I am pretty sure you will see Rooney, Park, Valencia, Carrick, Vidic, Rio, Evera and Van Der Sar. But which twin plays RB, Fabio or Rafeal? Who partners wit Carrick in the midfield, surley nor Scholes, who would be sent off before Messi broke a sweat. Does Giggs deserve a “swan song start”? Is playing Valencia, Rooney and Chicharito being overly offensive. Anyways, you get the point, tons of questions for us to debate.

    3- Our legacy. Winning this match has to raise the question, “Is this one of the best club teams in the history of football?” It’s an interesting thought.

    Personally I think we have a long summer ahead of us and have tons of time to argue the merrits of Rossi/Kun and whoever else we may look at. I remember being envious of Bayren and Inter last year, knowing we should have been in that match and our season was ended early. We have something Madrid, Inter, Chelsea ect don’t have and that is an evtra month or so of super meaningful football, we should cherish it and use this space to do what we do ideas and arguments about the one thing we all have in common FC BARCELONA!!!!!

    • hammeronmessi says:

      Personally I think we have a long summer ahead of us and have tons of time to argue the merrits of Rossi/Kun and whoever else we may look at.

      thats the fun of transfer speculation.thats what the fans and papers like to argue.

      I remember being envious of Bayren and Inter last year, knowing we should have been in that match and our season was ended early.

      IMO,no we dont deserve that,inter deserved that.u cant blame the volcano,the refereeing decisions.they were there on merit.though nobody will remeber inter apart from the interista.

      We have something Madrid, Inter, Chelsea ect don’t have and that is an evtra month or so of super meaningful football, we should cherish it and use this space to do what we do ideas and arguments about the one thing we all have in common FC BARCELONA!!!!!

      thats what everybody is doing here.but the wembley final is still 18 days away.its very tough to be excited so early,moreover the league is done and may be there is nothing to be tensed for.

      i think manu will play the same 11 as in the chelsea game.

      thank u for the suggestion.will go to the redcafe.

    • outerspacedout says:

      Give Giggs a swan-song start? Why a ‘swan-song start’, he’s been a boss in centre midfield this season right? Completely dominated the likes of Chelsea (league and the two CL games, four assists in those three) and CL opponents. He’s probably their best midfielder by far right now.

      • hammeronmessi says:

        Giggs may be their best midfielder.

        but there is no chance in hell he can compete with the MFof disrespect to this MANU legend.

        Now i remember,someone a MANU fan in a Guardian Blog commented

        “Giggs can dribble as good as messi,can pass as good as Xavi,can float as good as Iniesta.”

        Now thats what i call compliment from a partisan fan

      • outerspacedout says:

        I wasn’t saying he was better than Xavi/Iniesta right now. Just that the use of the words ‘swan-song start’ by Cule_less seems to imply that he’d be given a start as a thank you for his final game sort of thing, by saying that he is still very much a top top class player, Giggs, he’s not playing and getting plaudits out of sentiment for his fantastic career.

        • Cule_less says:

          Sorry dude I disagree. Giggs is great when united are on the ball, but is lacking defensivly. If Chicharito, Valencia, Park and Rooney start, I doubt Giggs gets the nod. If you remember, Giggs was subbed in the 75th min of the 08/09 final after being pretty lackluster.And that was the year the won the EPL player of the year!!!!!

          I think SAF has to attack a bit so this is what im looking at for the MU lineup





          He could go the Mourino way and put a defender as a stopper/sweeper (smalling). I think this is their only shot. But it puts crazy pressure on Carrick to have the game of his life. Another variation of this is putting Park and Carrick in the middle, Rooney on the left, Valencia on the right anf Hernandez alone up top.:



          —————–(Messi Shadow)Smalling



  27. outerspacedout says:

    Seeing that Zaragoza goal from last season in HD drives home just how f***ing ridiculous that goal was. It’s frickin inhuman.

    After that game (a hat-trick and won a penalty for Ibrahimovic) I was like ‘this is the single best individual performance I have ever seen by one player in a game, ever’.

    Of course he then scored four against Arsenal the following week, but still Messi vs Zaragoza is maybe my favorite individual performance I’ve ever seen.

    That goal. Straight up insane.

    And to think the same player has also scored THAT Getafe goal and THAT Madrid goal. And THAT Arsenal goal. And THAT so many other jaw-droppers.

    • barca96 says:

      And can you imagine how pissed off I was when THAT goal vs. Zaragoza wasn’t even a contender for goal of the season… I had a rant here. Was so pissed off.
      They did include another of THAT kind of goal, against Valencia I think but it was not even close to THAT goal against Zaragoza.

      Damn. Now Im going to download that match in HD!! I already have the normal version but I want a HD :)

      • outerspacedout says:

        The Valencia goal was nowhere near the Zaragoza goal.

        And you should. I should too, actually. My jaw has only literally dropped very few times in my life, but it was literally just open-mouthed staring at the screen towards the end of that game. It was like he was scoring whenever he wanted. ‘Oh a hat-trick! La la la… oh they just scored two, it’s 3-2 now lemme finish the game of… ah, I’ll just win a penalty and let Ibra score… la la la’.

  28. hammeronmessi says:

    in a important news.

    pele said chicharito may be the new messi.

    maradona used drugs thats true,but seriously i think we should check whether pele is taking that also?

  29. Benj says:

    Rather funny actually, if you look at the bottom comment from ‘Oliver Norbury’ I had a little chuckle…

    Apparently West Ham United would be a top 10 side in Spain…..
    Segunda B maybe?

    He rates the players alongside eachother, so I thought I’d do the same (as anyone who compares Valencia to Busquets or the strike combo of Rooney/Chicharito to Pedro/Villa obviously knows nothing about our team…

    VV vs VDS – Tough call as VDS is a great keeper but its like comparing Casillas to VV, VDS and Casillas are great shot stoppers and their positioning is fantastic, but VV is a far better ‘sweeper keeper’ and as it has been said, is perfect for our system.

    Abi vs Evra/Fabio – Do I even need to say anything? Evra is a world class but Abi is universal! oh and Fabio is very average.

    Dani Alves vs O’Shea/Rafael – Hilarious comparison, O’Shea is rubbish and Rafael is average, immature and too prone to getting carded. Conversely Dani Alves is a machine with his attacking prowess and ability to defend aswell.

    Shakira/Caveman vs SnoopDogg/Nemanja – Neither pairing really have pace, both have experience (especially in Puyol/Ferdinand) and the passing/attacking of Pique/Vidic puts them about even in my books.

    Busi/Masch vs Carrick/Fletcher – Obviously a > should have been put between the two, as Carrick and Fletcher are very very average players, while Mascherano has been great since his transfer and Busquets has won just about everything by the age of 22… Im not fussed who Pep chooses out of the two.

    Xavi/Iniesta vs Scholes/Giggs – Clearly alot of experience and passing excellence in these two pairings, but neither the welshman nor the ranga come close to Xavi’s precision passing nor Iniestas ability to tear through defenses. 2 more points to Barca.

    Pedro vs Valencia/Nani – I have only put one of ours because, well, he can play both (good ol Random Chaos Generator). I would put Pedro over Valencia, but Nani is pretty damn good. He can be a seriously dangerous attacking presence, but that doesn’t make me dislike him any less.

    Messi/Villa vs Rooney/Hernandez – I know we play with 3 forward but for the sake of this comparison, I’ve used our 2 main goalscorers, and they are well above United’s 2. Rooney cant score goals and Messi can’t stop scoring goals. I’d put Villa and Chicharito at a similar level, but I think little Hernandez would actually do better in a system like ours than Villa does.


    • hammeronmessi says:

      VDS is magnificient,but for our system VV is crucial.


      Dani/Da Silva Twins=Dani.

      no comparison.dani is a tireless battery.the silvas are still learning and when they mature they will be very good and oh they r not average.

      Evra/Abi=abi for this season.

      IMO evra is better than abi except just only this season.abi gets the edge cause only in this season he deserves it.

      PP/RV=Pique Vidic.

      my original choice is puyol vidic,but they cant complement each pique gets the nod.puyol was left out only because of his fitness.and there is no place for snoopdogg.



      P/NV=P,2 footed,excellent defending.shooting.Nani is a showboat,valencia is a good player and he is perfect for the uniteds way of playing.

      V/Chicarito=Chicarito.i simply love him errrrrrrrr like him

      Messi/ football discussion here.rooney is the white carnation of pele,but he only edged out by M cause of his off field antics.Rooney plays in a mans league,where it is difficult to score,and each team team can beat any team on a given i give it to messi though rooney is a more talented and more complete player

      • outerspacedout says:

        You’re being EPL-fan sarcastic with that last one right?

      • BarcaGirl_Indo says:


        why you give it to Messi if rooney is more talented and more complete?

      • Cule_less says:

        ummmmm no no on the messi thing lol. And in order to do an us v them thing you may want to know the names of their players, the unknown thing is kinda funny.

        I dont think Nani has a chance at playing, way to much of a defensive liability, Park should get the start there. My only concerns are Chicharito and Valencia. Abi will have to stay at home to keep Valencia at bay and Puyol/Pique need to watch for through balls from Rooney to Hernandez. But come to think about it, when is the last time we were beaten by a through ball on the ground, iniesta/xavi esque? especially with our top pair a CB.

        Finally, I am trying to see how Masch getgs into this lienup,to put out those fires. I do know one thing, te second we are up 2 goals, or one with 15 min left, I am putting Masch in for either Villa or Busi.

        **Remember Villa scores in big games, think national team!!!!

        • hammeronmessi says:

          I know each and every mf of MANU.WIth the exception of scholes and giggs,i think i will disrespect peekaboo,xavi and ini if we r gonna compare them to carrick,fletcher,park.

          all of them r good players in their own way,but to compare them with MF trio of ours

    • BarcaGirl_Indo says:

      This Universe hates FC Barcelona.

      he said that because we were dived?
      LMAO… 😆

  30. hammeronmessi says:

    and i cant believe barca grirl indo buy that.

    or m i being hlebbed?

  31. Cule_less says:

    My summer Wish List

    *No Cesc

    In: Adam Johnson/Charlie Adams/Douglas Costa (one of 3), Rossi, Ryan Shawcross


    Brought up: Thiago, Fontas

    Float: Gerard Deulofeu (back and forth a la Thiago this year)

  32. hammeronmessi says:

    i was sure everybody will get that.

    but most importantly dont know how to use those.

  33. can_we_go_Xalvies says:

    I’m going to start with who I think has a confident chance of leaving from our squad this summer:

    -Milito (its a little obvious)

    -Maxwell (good player, not ideal for our team anymore, strong interest from others)

    Given that Guardiola began this season having a lot of confidence with this small squad and yet we finish this season above expectation.

    players I still believe will stay:

    -Jeffren (hasn’t been given a clear chance, has at times been very helpful squad player, eg( WCC finals and certain league games))

    -Bojan (as usual even with a small squad Pep still relies on him upfront, eventhough we only have 3 clear cut starters upfront, he hasn’t signed anyone yet to overtake Bojan in the past three seasons)

    Keita (a quiet start to the season, but he has been given a lot of playing time in the second half of the season, showing improvement in his technical abilities, no yet worthy to sell)

    B-team players to be promoted:

    -Fontas (we are missing a decent back-up for Pique, Fontas is ready to make the jump, has been confirmed)

    -Thiago (has been confirmed, almost ready to fill in for Iniesta and Xavi)

    -B-team GK? (rumours of B-team signing a new GK, also given our situation after the classico we may need a third GK in the first team just incase)

    Given these assumptions, we still have key positions where we need new signings:

    -RB or LB?
    Abidal is our main LB but is also our CB (yes he can play two positions at once, just watch him), again for the third season we have no clear cut back-up for Alves, Adriano is apparently, but how can he when he has to fill in for LB most of the time? with Maxwell maybe being sold, we need another fullback or maybe even two.

    -CM or CB?
    I go though our starting line-up and can’t help but think we have no Puyol replacement till I realise we have both Abidal and Mascherano. But we lose out in midfield, especially when mashcerano has to play defence, we end up with only one DM in Busquets, Busquets also can fill in for Keita/Xavi/Iniesta if they are unavailable, so we really need another midfielder or another CB

    CF or LW/RW?
    this is a tough decision, because we have three good starters, one super sub, and two back-ups. Potentially if we lose one starter upfront we become lopsided or depends who is out we become messi-less. We need some sort of forward that can come in and start with full confidence but ACCEPTS his role.

    I don’t believe we need a ‘plan B’ or a ‘target man’ player upfront, we need someone who is a constant goal threat, I don’t mean a goal machine, But someone that makes defenders nervous, for example Henry, he wasn’t good at piling on the goals but he constantly has that threat no matter how far on the wing he was, he got defenders to worry about him. Pedro slowly became that type of player. Maybe not yet in the big big games though.

    Eto’o was a goal machine, who put in that effort to get infront of defenders and what not, but Eto’o was never a goalscoring threat in open play, you give him the ball with his back to goals outside the box and he struggled with his first touch and weighting of his passes, and he couldn’t do anything in those situations. Villa can’t either, but Villa ACCEPTS his role on the wing, Eto’o could never play on the wing, even when Pep ordered him to.

    My ideal signing would be Rossi, given that I know a lot of people especially Italians have a lot of confidence in him being CF for Italy. Even if Rossi would potential always lose out in height and strength, he gains in creativity and an eye for goal.

  34. Kxevin says:

    Not getting my hopes up yet, but application number range for Final tix runs from 3888-36,000 and something.

    Witn no. 17,127 …..

    I’ll just wait to hear something.

  35. Lev says:

    “Pedro slowly became that type of player. Maybe not yet in the big big games though.”
    yeah. except for big games like CL semis against the Evil Empire or WC finals that is…

    Rossi would be interesting though I do believe that if we could get a good deal on Eto’o he would be perfect for us – especially if it is true that he and Pep are on good terms.

    Good luck with getting a ticket Kxevin! (if you do, would you sell it to me? 😛 )

  36. hammeronmessi says:

    rossi is good,but the amount we r hearing i think it is too big an investment

  37. Lev says:

    apparently Bendtner is
    A) fed up with being on the bench
    B) would like to play for Barça

  38. hammeronmessi says:

    If u wanna dream,why settle for a low dream?bendteners dream is every footballers wish now.

    alas bendtener ur dream will remain a dream.

  39. hammeronmessi says:

    there is rumour floating that the professor is going to sell arsha.

    if under 15 M,then i think the coaching stuff should take a look at him.

  40. hammeronmessi says:

    i think i m making too much comments.

    but recently this space is so barren

  41. Josep says:

    “Reaper says:
    May 10, 2011 at 2:07 am
    to chime in here, i fail to understand why no one here rates Llorente that highly – especially to solve our plan B quandary. Phenomenal in the air, good with both feet, can defintely crash the ‘park the bus’ tactics and will almost certainly not cost more than 20m

    We don’t need players like Sanchez, Rossi or Kun.. we have them already. We HAVE to let our kids play more next season.

    PS. as much as everyone despises the arrival of Cesc, I’d personally love him playing for us.”

    The thing about Llorente is no one dislikes him, everyone loves him. It would cost maybe more because Madrid are rumored to want him, and no one knows if he’d be comfortable to sit the bench. That’s why.

    also, I plan on crashing Kevin’s CL Party

    • Lev says:

      Llorente…On the one hand I would love him in our team, but on the other hand buying the best of the Liga’s rest every season to have them sit on our bench makes me feel evil empirish…

      I actually think we are letting enough of our kids play. Over the last 3 years 18 canteranos have made their 1st team debut under Pep. That’s pretty impressive.

      • Jnice says:

        Over the last 3 years 18 canteranos have made their 1st team debut under Pep. That’s pretty impressive.

        It is impressive, but it’s not representative of how many actually feature regularly. It took too long for Fontas to finally get some time.

        But when you look at strikers, there are no kids ready to play, so we need to look for one on the market.

        • Lev says:

          While it is not representative of how many have broken through if you take into account that this is the best team Barça has ever had, debuting an average of 6 academy players a year is incredible.

          Pedro and Busi are now starters and we can expect Thiago to play plenty next season. I remain unconvinced about Fontas because I don’t think he will complement Pique all that well. As for Jeffren I would not be opposed to selling him.

          I think the target is (or should be) for 1 player to break through per season. We are doing fine imo.

    • Barcaleya says:

      I think everyone here would love to have Llorente. It’s just that we don’t want to waste his talent on the bench. He’s too good to be a squad player. And bad news for the national team if he doesn’t get to play first team regularly.

  42. Jnice says:

    I like this picture. Should be labelled ‘Solidarity':


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