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  1. Blow-Grenade
    April 16, 2011

    Kxevin, the man himself liveblogging. What a pleasure. Well hello there. And look forward to a wonderful match. Hopefully there are no red cards, and we can see lots of goals from both sides.

  2. April 16, 2011

    LET’S DO THIS! LEEROY JENNNNNKINS!

    BARCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

  3. blaunero
    April 16, 2011

    So far Mourinho has got his tactics spot on. He knows he’s not going to win the league even if he wins this game, so instead he’s trying to figure out how well Real can defend against us. Quite well they’ve defended so far, I might say. We only had two chances, and they look particularly dangerous whenever we lose the ball.

    • blaunero
      April 16, 2011

      We effing blew it, as usual. Psychological advantage goes to Madrid now.

      • Vj
        April 16, 2011

        I call BS on the ‘psychological advantage’..

        They could only draw with the help of a non-call a match they needed to win..

        Plus, we can play much better than we did..

        • blaunero
          April 16, 2011

          They can play better too. They will be able to draw on the fact that even with ten men we were’t able to beat them. We had them by the balls and we threw it away. That Villa chance at the end… Bah.
          Oh well. Onwards to the second game of the series.

  4. April 16, 2011

    Love the result, not so much how we got it. Should have put that game away long ago.

    What have we learned? We’re in for a very nervous and tense three matches.

  5. jordi™
    April 16, 2011

    Oh, saw puyi walking around at the end

    • Miguel
      April 16, 2011

      Why we was he on that stretcher? 🙁

      • Miguel
        April 16, 2011

        *I’m still hysterical and a little buzzed*
        😀

  6. footballfan
    April 16, 2011

    Surprisingly, Madrid play better with 10 men.

    A bit disappointed in the result. I know we still have an 8-point lead but with 1 goal up and Madrid’s 1 man down, I thought we could win this one.

    As for neutral, what a great game though.

    • Ian
      April 16, 2011

      Agreed, Madrid’s chances were very solid all the way, though I’m not putting ours down. It’s disappointing but I kind of half-expected it already beforehand. Mourinho actually got away with a point with an experimental line-up, wow, and I have no idea what to expect for the CdR final.

      And yes, I hated the referee.

    • 505
      April 16, 2011

      because that’s what they trained for 🙂

      *fingers crossed for puyi — hope he’s ok in time to lift our trophies

  7. Vj
    April 16, 2011

    Bah, its like clockwork how we give away leads.. We coulda put EE in real pressure for the rest of the ‘series’..

    Now, what’s Puyi’s condition?

  8. jordi™
    April 16, 2011

    An on form Villa wins this for us no question.He just needs 1 to go in.Thankfully the next game is in a neutral ground.We got NOTHING today from the man in the middle with the whistle.

    • Vj
      April 16, 2011

      I saw a PK and thats only what I expected..

  9. Nav
    April 16, 2011

    Acceptable result. Villa needs to find his form again. I was hoping he’d come good in this game, but oh well.

    This is a fair result though. No, onwards to the next game.

  10. Nav
    April 16, 2011

    ‘Keita: “It’s difficult not to talk about the referee tonight. We maybe played a bit too much on ball possession after the 0-1.”‘ @barcastuff

    Oh god please guys don’t talk about the ref.

    • barca96
      April 16, 2011

      The only mistake the ref made was Pepe not getting any card after 20 fouls.

      I agree with Keita. We should’ve ride the momentum after the goal and them reducing to 10 men and attack and attack. There is no point in passing around. That will lead to them gaining back their confidence.

      We won the midfield battle but they looked way more dangerous.

      Pepe was the key man for them imo. Although he should’ve gotten a yellow in the first half already.

      What Messi did was really un-cool!!

      ALl in all, pretty disappointed that we gave the lead away.

      Guess where that goal started. It started from somewhere where the person made a half asses pass and a lame effort to get it back…

  11. K_legit
    April 16, 2011

    The sad thing was that it was a pretty clear dive by marcelo..

    • Ian
      April 16, 2011

      The other sad thing was that David didn’t get one for a real foul. But more penalties than two will spoil it…

      • barca96
        April 16, 2011

        It was no dive at all. Clear penalty.

  12. April 16, 2011

    Great result for me. Liga is almost in the hand. We made them run, and that may help us on the long run.

    I don’t comment on referees. hm…nor on Villa…

  13. April 16, 2011

    Meh. A tie. I’m satisfied.

    Before people inevitably b*tch and moan about Villa, take into account how we played this match. 0-1 and comfortable, got 60 minutes out of Puyi and rested him as well as Pedro!. Nice return to form for Pique and Adriano had a monster of a match. Di(ve) Maria who? TB who? The pen came, IMO, after we switched off.

    I say people should FIRST share the positives of this match, before going apesh*t.

    I’m only slightly peeved because Thong Boy scored (and we gave up an unnecessary penalty–and yes, it was a penalty) and Pepe somehow escaped a yellow (WTF? I mean seriously). This was a great game, particularly for the neutral–it had a bit of everything.

    Our team is amazing and we should take about it, instead of focusing on the smaller details. Yes, Villa needs to up his game, but this is a con for a much longer pro list.

    A draw is okay for this game. It bears repeating.

    • providence
      April 16, 2011

      i think he surprised as with Pepe’s role,so how are u going to take care of him in the Copa if u were to be Guardiola? how far with Puyol?

  14. Whatever
    April 16, 2011

    A very boring game. Intense, yes, but boring.

    With all due respect, but Mourinho is really a piece of shit. And Pepe. They have no class whatsoever.

    We played okay. I just hope Puyol gets well and plays on Wednesday.

  15. can_we_go_Xalvies
    April 16, 2011

    hmm, not bad result, but we were careless at points which could of won us the game.

    I don’t think the draw is an advantage to Madrid really, yes they defended really well, but again it looked like we didn’t reveal much of ourselves in this match. Was it tactics from us? or complacency? II don’t know, we’ll have to see.

    didn’t like Puyol going down like that, hopefully its a precaution.

  16. Kariyanna
    April 16, 2011

    Brilliant Result IMO and according to Cruyff a draw would’ve been a fair result for this match. For the CDR I expect to see some reshuffling from Pep in terms of Messi being silenced because of Pepe.

  17. beeeef
    April 16, 2011

    meh.

    I know it’s the classico, but if we could afford to be lackluster in any of the matches, it was this one.

    things will be different in a ‘neutral’ venue, and now with the league all but tied up (and Masch back), we can focus on the cup final.

  18. April 16, 2011

    Very good result. A draw functionally ends the liga race.

    Messi and villa looked like they were going to drop on the pitch from exhaustion at the end.

    And pep literally does not have any viable striker to turn to.

    It’s very unfortunate how the club built such little depth into the construction of the team.

    The short squad cost them today.

  19. Humphrey Bogart
    April 16, 2011

    I am content with the outcome, it was an away game, least important match of the 4 or not I am sure that at least the EE players did want to win it but at the end they got a draw in their house only with a dubious penalty. Villa was off, Messi was off, but you know what? Messi is never off for more than one game, so I it had to be one it should be this one.

    And now just off to hear Mou whining in the press conference that he had to play with 10 men and how the ref was against him, blah, blah, blah,

  20. April 16, 2011

    We won by drawing. To lose the Liga, we would have to drop more points in 6 matches than we have all season to date. Against Osasuna, Sociedad, Espanyol, Levante, Depor and Malaga. Only Malaga will have something to play for, against relegation.

    We played a nice, controlled match. Never pressed or ran like crazy. They did, and on one day’s less rest.

    Adebayor was like Kanoute for them. We don’t like big, strong forwards who are always around the ball, and never will. Not in Lilliput.

    • April 16, 2011

      And didnt we need that kind of strikers (especially in the last 30 minutes) to hold on ball and give the chance for our lines to shuffle forward…

      We can rest our players before CL match. I think our players will be fresh enough for the cup as well. This was the most complicated match for us in terms of selection. Puyol was definitely the best news for the day.

    • barca96
      April 16, 2011

      Adebayor and Pepe were big for them.

  21. Helge
    April 16, 2011

    Can someone clarify the card situation?

    Commentators said that Piqué would be suspended for the CdR final due to accumulation of yellow cards.
    But as far as I know, if at all, only red cards lead to a ban in an upcoming CdR match…

    • Para
      April 16, 2011

      Helge, I think you’re right. It was briefly discussed during the lblog, when I think it was confirmed by goltv that it’s only direct reds.

  22. BarcaGirl_Indo
    April 16, 2011

    what an ugly game by Barça…
    as if it was us who down to 10 men…

    more bad news rather than good news…

    good news is, we’re 8 points ahead…

    bad news :
    – 3 more horrors to go
    – Puyi is injured again
    – we didn’t play well
    – EE has found a way to stop us
    – TB finally scored against us
    – too lazy to write other bad things…

    okay, I’m still piss with our way of playing after 1-0… I need to calm myself…

    • barca96
      April 16, 2011

      Im pissed for that sole reason too. They should’ve killed the game asap as we had the momentum. Look at them after they scored. Attack after attack. Yes passing around is always good except when we have the opportunity to score. They had to settle down. We could’ve used that time to attack but instead played around with the ball..For what???

  23. Para
    April 16, 2011

    What I’m truly irritated about is the number of unnecessary yellows that Barcelona picked up. I know it doesn’t necessarily make a huge difference, especially considering the fact that the season is close to an end, but it really bothers me.

    It always seems oober-wasteful to me.

  24. barca96
    April 16, 2011

    VIlla reminds me of Henry last season. Did more positive job on the defensive side of his game than his offensive.

  25. April 16, 2011

    I’m biting my lip, holding back from unleashing a barrage of verbal abuse at the ref. Why? Because it’d be irrelevant if Villa took even one of his chances.

    EE played a high tempo match. I don’t care what you say about the psychological advantage to “Mou”, but that’s advantage us no matter what way you see it. We looked fresher and if we didn’t try to play out the match with possession, we’d have won this one.

    It was a good game from EE. They had good chances, but Adriano and VV are on our team. Seriously there are a LOT of positives. We don’t need to immediately list of the negatives.

    I’m not directing this at anyone, just The Cule Mentality. EE would have killed to play a game like ours.

    • footballfan
      April 16, 2011

      ^This!

      Spread more positivity here 😀

      • barca96
        April 16, 2011

        We were way better. Yes but the way we handled the match after the lead is just plain disgusting. Im not blaming anyone as it was a good collective effort. But they need to attack when they have a 1 man advantage!!! Not play their usual passing game.

    • Para
      April 16, 2011

      I agree, Kari. The only real negative I’m looking at is that Puyol is re-injured, but tbh I didn’t think he was going to be in any of these matches anyway, and also Masch is going to be back for the rest of the games.

  26. Eklavya
    April 16, 2011

    Basically, we win La Liga but draw this match while we could have won it. But the points difference remains the same.

    Adriano remains MOTM. The guy was a cracker! Great game!

    Villa is WOTM (Worst of The Match?). Not much needs to be said I think.

    Now we just have to wait for Puyol and see what happens to him.

    • Nav
      April 16, 2011

      How was Villa worst? He won us the penalty.

      • Eklavya
        April 16, 2011

        Look, I really don’t want to get into this. I want to think you’re being ironic?

        • ooga aga
          April 16, 2011

          why do we need to define worst of the match? who cares

  27. Humphrey Bogart
    April 16, 2011

    Ah, and I really hope that Puyi is well, you could downright feel what a boost his presence gave our backline and Pique in particular. Great game by Adriano, by the way. We were maybe at 70% and they were chasing us all night, so I am happy.

    • barca96
      April 16, 2011

      Adriano has saved us twice in two matches now by his last ditch tackle or stop. Pique was immense too.

  28. Nav
    April 16, 2011

    I think the fact that a draw is a ‘psychological win’ for EE basically means that it isn’t. If drawing against us gives them so much relief then they already consider themselves the inferior team — that’s the biggest psychological advantage you can have.

    • blaunero
      April 16, 2011

      I don’t think it’s about inferiority complexes. They went down a goal and a man. They saw our player basically taunt them with endless and meaningless passes instead of scoring. And still they tied and could well have won the match. If it were I in their shoes I’d feel particularly pleased. “The best team in the world could not beat us 11v10.” This is def. advantage Real Madrid at least psychologically, but it may well keep us on our toes for the second, and more important game thus far, of the series.

  29. barca96
    April 16, 2011

    Guess where EE’s attack that led to a goal started. It started from somewhere where the person made a half asses pass and a lame effort to get it back.

  30. outerspacedout
    April 16, 2011

    I was hugely impressed with Madrid’s intensity and pressing/harrying/whatever it was they played defensively. They played very well, though admittedly Pedro and Villa not showing much consistent threat did make it harder for us, and they seemed quite dangerous on their attacks.

    That said, I think we were just looking to avoid a loss and keep them at arm’s length, we didn’t seem particularly urgent all through.

    For Puyol, I’m hoping the fact that him needing treatment coincided with the perfect hour-mark moment when Keita was already getting ready to come on for him (assuming so, cos with Real a man down I doubt it was Keita coming on for an offensive player, though it might well have been so too) means it was just a way to rest Puyol the same way he would have been getting subbed off in the 60th minute anyway, but while making ‘possible injury’ a card up our sleeve when we use him next game?

    Blaunero: We blew it as usual? There’s pessimism, and then there’s being ridiculous. Not to be rude, but that’s just silly. What as usual? Because we’ve really made a habit of blowing it in games and that is why we’re 8 points behind Madrid.. oh wait, we’re the ones leading and in the driving seat by winning games and winning and winning, aren’t we? If you had to ‘support’ your kids or your girlfriend or whoever in something they do, would it be remembering what they’ve done well and being optimistic at one slight setback among a huge series of successes, or acting like we had just lost that 07/08 game back then? Not saying both are the same, but this is just waaaaaaaay overboard with the ‘pessimism’. At least give the team some of the credit they deserve, for crying out loud, drawing 1-1 with EE, who are arguably the second strongest side in the world and were wounded, motivated, and at home, where all we needed to do was to avoid losing and not much was on the stake considering our position in the table, is not blowing it and IS NOT A DISASTER.

    • barca96
      April 16, 2011

      He is indeed a pessimistic guy but hopefully barcastuff comes up with a stat on the number of times we gave up the lead and loss or draw vs comeback and win. I think that our team does lose the lead quite a lot simply because we become complacent.

    • outerspacedout
      April 16, 2011

      As for the game, I really can’t feel ANY emotion about it, for some reason. Just ‘meh. NEXT!’

      All I know though is that La Liga is definitely wrapped up, I would say, now.

      I wish our forwards could get some rest. They looked exhausted. And Villa did miss some very good chances he would have put away if on form. I hope they can get rest against Osasuna and Sociedad, or atleast Villa against Osasuna.

    • blaunero
      April 16, 2011

      We did the same thing vs Arsenal vs Sevilla vs Mallorca vs Copenhagen. As in the game vs Arsenal, we thought we’d already won. Yes, I’m a pessimist. That’s plain for all to see. But there is also such a thing as over-optimism. Face it, man. We let Mourinho off the hook with this one and he himself can find positives about their performance.
      It isn’t a disaster but we could have sent a message. The full ramifications of this game will be felt on Wednesday.

      • outerspacedout
        April 16, 2011

        I know we gave up a chance to have given them quite a blow by putting our foot off the gas after 1-0. Never said we didn’t.

        But we did the business against Arsenal and Sevilla, in games where the team had the admittedly wrong attitude that they could easily make it up in the second half of the tie. Copenhagen was a group stage match where our qualification top of the group was never really in doubt from start to finish. Complacency is an issue, and worrying about complacency is different from worrying that Madrid are better than us, especially considering that in a non-meaningless game (CL semis, Cup final) and one where the players are actually motivated to win (same) complacency is almost definitely not going to be an issue.

        • blaunero
          April 16, 2011

          Honestly I know it shouldn’t worry me in the least. With an 8pt lead and 6 matches to go, the league is evidently but not yet mathematically ours. But it worries me that we basically toyed with them after we were up only 1-0. If Real had any other coach I wouldn’t much care. But it’s Mourinho, and if I remember correctly we toyed with his Inter team in November ’09 before they crashed us out of the CL 4/5 months later.

  31. Humphrey Bogart
    April 16, 2011

    Ah fuck, barcastuff reports that Adriano has a calf injury, we have really bad luck this year with injuries. And that after such a fantastich match.

  32. Whatever
    April 16, 2011

    I don’t know why, but Messi really didn’t want to run at all. He was playing a I-don’t-give-a-damn game… Maybe Guardiola instructed him to do so?

    • barca96
      April 16, 2011

      He ran more than 1km less than Ronaldo.

  33. Jim
    April 16, 2011

    I wouldn’t rule Puyol out yet till we hear about the injury. The way he sprang to his feet and threw the water bottle when Iniesta was fouled didn’t make me think he was worried about it too much.

  34. Kariyanna
    April 16, 2011

    Yess Pep is referring to Villa in his problems today right now in the Press Room…From what I recall every-time Pep calls out a player they tend to come out firing after. Surly Villa will be training heavily to get his shots ready for the final.

  35. can_we_go_Xalvies
    April 16, 2011

    thank goodness for Barcastuff, news by the second,

    aprently, Puyol felt hamstring trouble, sub was a precautionary, thankg goodness! but still not good.

    adriano has calf strain? what does that mean? overworked? or tearing?

  36. April 16, 2011

    How can a 1-1 give any kind of advantage for Real Madrid?

    – They more or less lost their last chance to win the Liga
    – They had to run for their lives all over the place where at 0-1 we knew all what we need is not to concede 2 goals so we let the ball run for us walking out of this match.
    – I can take 1-1 result at their home anytime of the day and 10 times for the following match in the CL.
    – They knew how to stop us? hm…or they didnt learn yet how to beat us. Which is exactly what they need in the cdr and cl.

    Did I miss anything?

  37. Goo
    April 16, 2011

    Both teams looked like they were playing for a draw, and that’s a little disappointing. La Liga is ours and everyone knew it. Second gear almost all the way, and a draw was a fair result.

    Adriano really has stepped up his game with Abidal’s absence. No clasico jitters for that man. MOTM.

    Puyi 🙁 I hope he’s okay. You actually made Pique better by just being there.

    Villa must have done something to anger the football gods. Let’s send the guy some good luck charms, he needs one badly now.

  38. Nav
    April 16, 2011

    First medical report Puyol: Felt some hamstring trouble and asked to be subbed out of precaution #fcblive #elclasico [@fcbarcelonaa]

    Puyol will be fine. Adriano on the other hand..

  39. Para
    April 16, 2011

    The ball did seem to move exceptionally slowly as well. I know that didn’t necessarily help RM’s passing, but as they were content to sit back a bit more, it may not have had much of an effect anyway. A better field at Valencia plus the allure of silver may make a difference.

    In any case, I’m holding the faith.

  40. April 16, 2011

    Guardiola: “Grass too long? Everyone does what he wants in his own home.”

    • Jim
      April 16, 2011

      That’s classy of Pep to say that as there is no point to excuses but you could see the effect of it on our quick passing tonight. A lot of layoffs were just a little short and the ball was sticking in feet. It slows down the ball movement. Not the biggest element in the result but they won’t have it to help them midweek.

    • Para
      April 16, 2011

      I don’t think it’s classless-it’s totally within their rights to use their homefield advantage as…well, a homefield advantage. That being said, I still think that the grass being shorter midweek could be helpful.

  41. Eklavya
    April 16, 2011

    Adriano has a calf strain. Whatever that means…

  42. April 16, 2011

    Calf strain for Adriano. Don’t see him being ready by Wednesday. Too soon. Puyol we have to wait and see on. Maxwell against Thong Boy? NOW I’m worried, or I would be if the Copa mattered to me. It doesn’t.

    • Eklavya
      April 16, 2011

      Maybe if Puyol isn’t really injured he could play LB?

      Alves Pique Mascherano Puyol

      Our best bet?

    • barca96
      April 16, 2011

      Look at how EE’s attack started that led to the penalty and eventually the goal.

  43. Humphrey Bogart
    April 16, 2011

    But I have to get one thing from my cheast: they call themselves a club of honour and values and then they use cheap tricks like making the pitch in a bad condition, that is so low I can not believe that a club can sink that low.

    • barca96
      April 16, 2011

      I already thought it was too long from the pics posted by barcastuff.

      But nah. We wet the pitch. Some players from other teams might not like it too. ANd if EE purposely made the pitch in a bad condition it would affect them too isn’t it?

      But it did clearly looked that it was too long from the way the ball rolled.

    • can_we_go_Xalvies
      April 16, 2011

      other clubs and fans have done worse, in Greece, AEK Athens had to relocate one of their home games for europa qualifiers to another stadium in greece. No club would offer their stadium to AEK, it was so bad that Panionios fans went so far as to damage and scorch their own stadium so it became unplayable for AEK to borrow :S

  44. Diego
    April 16, 2011

    Adriano MOTM.

    No comments about Villa, He’ll get back on track.

    The goal is Xavi’s fault not Dani’s.

    Messi needs to stop chipping the keeper.

    GOOD RESULT !!!! They still have Villareal,Valencia, and Sevilla away and need to catch up with leading with 9 points .

    Albiol will be missing against us in Copa so Pepe may return to CB and the same Idea with the first leg of CL as Carvalho is missing.

    • Nav
      April 16, 2011

      I think EE has given up on the league to be honest. I don’t see them coming back from an 8 point deficit.

  45. Vj
    April 16, 2011

    There we go:

    Medical report Adriano: calf strain

    First medical report Puyol: Felt some hamstring trouble and asked to be subbed out of precaution

    via Pep @ Barcastuff..

  46. April 16, 2011

    And don’t forget that Mourinho growing the grass long is no different than us cutting it really short, then watering the heck out of it.

      • barca96
        April 16, 2011

        Yup. Said the same thing to Humphrey as well.
        Every club has their own way.

    • Jim
      April 16, 2011

      I beg to differ, Kxevin. Imo, one is done purely to frustrate the opposition ( can’t believe Madrid think they play better with it long either), the other to help quick ball movement which aids the better team. Growing the grass long is a leveller when you think the other side is better. Doesn’t make it illegal but it’s not the same.

  47. deckardcain
    April 16, 2011

    What I saw this game was a Barcelona in low gear, like in many of the other league games this year. This was the least important game of the big four, and therefor it wasn’t necessary to go all out tonight. We passed the ball around as usual, and Villa took his normal runs, but seldom got the ball (and when he got the passes, he tripped over his own legs, or someother random insult, but he’ll get there soon enough again!)

    When we got the goal, resting mode deluxe kicked in, triangle passing in midfield for most part of the remainder of the game. TB got to break his draught against Barcelona(Buuuh!)just like Messi against Mourinho(Yeeaay!)

    Still eight(in effect nine)points up and the league is almost home. Now we can focus on the cupfinal and kick their asses, if we decide so, otherwise we’ll just ease through it like today. All in all, a good game!

    I also heard that it was decided that Puyol only would play around 60 minutes, and that the substitution was decided before the game, so hopefully he just faked injury, saw him up and jumping right after he left the pitch, and after the game.

    Sorry for typos or bad grammar, english is not my first language.

    VISCA!

  48. BarcaGirl_Indo
    April 16, 2011

    okay, I’m calmer now…

    here’s the good things :
    – 8 points! yeeaay!
    – no suspension for Copa del Rey final, I believe?
    – finally, Messi breaks his cannot-score-against-Mou-team curse
    – Piqué gets his form back, don’t you think? Puyi’s effect?
    – Villa is a good defender
    – we never lost in the last 6 consecutives El Clasico
    – Messi didn’t get a card!
    – oh captain, so happy to see you on the field!
    – we’ll have sMasch in CdR final!
    – no injured player other than Puyi
    – Adriano is awesome!
    – congrats Ibi, for your El Clasico debut!
    – emmm…what else?

  49. Diego
    April 16, 2011

    Since Jim is no where to be found, I like to say that the goal we conceded was the minute Maxwell entered where Khedira passed him and passed the ball to Ade then to Marcelo.

    • outerspacedout
      April 16, 2011

      Adriano was a beast today too. Header off the line and important defensive interceptions galore.

    • barca96
      April 16, 2011

      Haha you answered my question.
      i asked many times up there.

      It’s just his attitude. Half asses pass, half assed defending, half assed attempt to fight for the ball…
      This is El Clasico. Wake the F up and stop playing so casually!

    • April 16, 2011

      Said that in the LiveBlog, Diego. Good eye. Adriano’s closing pace back there was missed.

    • Jim
      April 16, 2011

      Jim is here and I’m getting kinda hacked off at having to do this as I thought Adriano had a great game tonight. If he keeps on this way he may turn out to be our answer at LB to solid defending plus some threat on offence. That’s what I want. I’m not an Adriano “hater” – i just don’t like the casual way people are prepared to blame someone without actually looking at what is happening. However, since the implication in a previous post is that I’m somehow in hiding . . . .

      1.Khedira plays a ball down the line to Ozil who is marked by Maxwell so he plays it back to khedira. Ozil is Maxwell’s man, Khedira is Iniesta’s.
      2. Iniesta misses a tackle and Khedira is advancing so Maxwell has to come across to block.
      3. Khedira cuts back to the outside and Maxwell goes with him to block. It does the trick as Khedira stumbles, gets up but still no danger.
      4. Ozil, though, who has been left unmarked gets a run at the ball and takes it inside.
      5. At this point Maxwell is back level with him, Keita is right in front of him Pique for some reason is watching this rather than Adebayour ( who by the way has been left by Xavi).
      6. Ozil passes to Ade. At this point we have 5 against 2 !!!
      7. Being Ade he stumbles over it and WE REGAIN POSSESSION. ( Remind me again why I’m doing this? ) Whose fault was this goal meant to be?
      8. Pique gives Xavi a hospital pass rather than hoofing it and Xavi ( for possibly only about the second time in his life ) gets dispossessed. At this point we have 7 players plus VV behind the ball !!
      9. Afellay lets his man get a run on him and leaves him to go.
      10. Alves makes a tackle which he maybe doesn’t have to make and which is probably not a penalty.

      Happy to debate if anyone thinks this isn’t what happened but can we drop this whole “Maxwell” thing now ? Last time I looked both he, Villa and Adriano all play for Barcelona so get the benefit of any doubt going from me.

      • April 16, 2011

        Happy to debate if anyone thinks this isn’t what happened but can we drop this whole “Maxwell” thing now ? Last time I looked both he, Villa and Adriano all play for Barcelona so get the benefit of any doubt going from me.

        Yeah, agree 100%. I admit I treated it jokingly, like Kxevin with Henry, but I do think we should stop singling out commenters. I’m a guilty as anyone else in this respect, so I’ll be the first to say: Sorry. We can discuss Maxwell without bringing Jim into the picture.

      • Para
        April 16, 2011

        I felt like there was too long a sequence between Maxwell ‘losing’ (and I use the term losely) the ball and the penalty for it to be on his shoulders more than anyone elses. If you track back the whole game, the player to make the very first mistake/mistimed pass is the one to blame for EVERYTHING that happens subsequently, whether good or bad.

      • providence
        April 16, 2011

        its simple Maxwell has to back up, he is below average, check Kxvein’s analysis and see whether he has had 9 before, look at Adriano’s improvement, from day one to now, delivering @ Elclasicco is awesome in the absence of ABI, Guardiola only likes Maxwell bcos of his attackn instincts, the last time i saw him did something x’tra O was against Inter(dat pass to Pedro) finish! afterall he didnt make any impact when he was brought on

  50. Sam M
    April 16, 2011

    It’s time for Messi to stop trying to chip the keeper every time he gets the chance. Against Shaktar he had at least two 1 v 1 with the keeper where he tried to chip over with the end result of the goalie standing his ground and catching both attempts. Same with Casillas tonight. Too predictable; keepers know that La Pulga has a penchant for the chip and given a choice I imagine they would prefer to be beaten on the ground than chipped over with humiliating results…

    • outerspacedout
      April 16, 2011

      True. He has a lovely chip but he’s getting a bit too fond of using it.

      In the Goal.com editors’ ‘predict random events’ bit one even said ‘Ronaldo will take three shots from 40 yards about and Messi will try to chip Casillas from three yards out thrice’ or something along those lines.

    • barca96
      April 16, 2011

      Against Almunia as well recently. EVery GK knows that by now.

      Just like all my 4 GK’s from my 3 teams.
      They know Im always trying to chip them so they stay on their feet.

    • Barka
      April 16, 2011

      It’s only the last 2-3 games that his chips didn’t work and Messi may not have timed the chip perfectly. I think the chances just stand out because we have so few of them lately. Guardiola and Messi probably realized that his lob trick wouldn’t always work as well.

  51. outerspacedout
    April 16, 2011

    Xavi needs to cut down on mouthing off to the ref btw. Silly yellow cards are pointless.

    • Diego
      April 16, 2011

      I called it in my list of things to expect from the Classico. 😀

      • PhepheSa
        April 16, 2011

        Don’t know why he does that really, why can’t he just let it go.

  52. Barka
    April 16, 2011

    Well, to draw because of a ‘controversial’ penalty decision is nothing too disapointing to me. I hope we could win it and shatter their confidence but a 1-1 is fine too. I don’t think match will negatively affect us in the Copa final. Xavi and Pique and Valdes really have to stop arguing with referree though. That’s what we fans do when watching.

    • barca96
      April 16, 2011

      It;s not controversial to me at all. It was a clear penalty to me.

      • Barka
        April 16, 2011

        Well some say it wasn’t. It was close and my stream was bad so I couldn’t really comment on that.

  53. messi_fan
    April 16, 2011

    Question. Pedro or 3M to start the next match?

    • Ian
      April 16, 2011

      How ’bout both of them without Villa

      • barca96
        April 16, 2011

        If Im not mistaken Villa hardly started any CdR matches thus far.
        So most probably he would get rested.

  54. Ian
    April 16, 2011

    Well, Messi is sick, Puyi and Pedro aren’t 100% yet (I guess), we’re one short of a starter (Abi) and Villa’s yet to get back on form. At second gear, draw okay for me! Best news was about Puyi’s potential un-injury, I hope we don’t lose more defenders. 🙂

    • messi_fan
      April 16, 2011

      Messi is sick? Where did you hear that?

      • Ian
        April 16, 2011

        @barcastuff…Cough medicines? Slightly ill mighta been the better choice of words 🙂

  55. Para
    April 16, 2011

    Pepe was fairly incredible for them in the first half–once he had to shift to the back he had much less of an impact intercepting and coming forward. The fact that Albiol is out for the cup and Carvalho out for the first leg of the semi-final should mean that he’s not going to be able to play as DM, right? Unless they slot Ramos into the centre and put albiol out on the side.

    • barca96
      April 16, 2011

      Pepe was a monster. BUt he was dirty too. How on earthy didn’t he get a yellow card???

      Carvalho and Ramos were quiet weren’t they??

      Thaw was because they weren’t really tested in this match. That showed that we really needed to attack more.

      • April 16, 2011

        Exactly. We weren’t pressing, we weren’t using the wings, we weren’t full-on attacking. When we attacked for real, we always created danger, with Messi (3x) and Villa (4-5x).

        • PhepheSa
          April 16, 2011

          That’s why i don’t get how EE have the advantage. We didn’t do a lot of the things we normally do when on top form. I really believe we went there to play for the draw and a win would have been a bonus. Messi never plays like that in a normal clasico and today he was just in lazy mood.

          If we do all the things you mentioned and concentrate for the whole game then they’ll be in trouble.

      • Para
        April 16, 2011

        Because of Euler’s preview, I was trying to pay attention to the width we had up front today, and it seemed as though Villa drifted in a lot more than he did during the first clasico. On top of that, Pedro was pretty quiet too.

    • Diego
      April 16, 2011

      *Ramos in the centre and Arbeloa on the side.

      • Para
        April 16, 2011

        Erm, yes. That’s what I meant. barca96, I found it surprising he didn’t see a card too, (at least I think I did…I’ll have to rewatch first) but if those fouls aren’t going to lead to a card then it doesn’t really force him to change the way he’s playing.

    • April 16, 2011

      Yeah. Pepe is completely loco, figuratively and literally. If I was a Madridista, I’d like him (and Marcelo), but I’m not. I’m pissed he didn’t get a single yellow.

      If there is one thing I respected, it was the intensity and how hard EE pressed. But then I think of how we were playing and I can’t help but smirk. (It was as if it was just another league game, like the away match vs. Villareal). /LaportaSmirk

      • April 16, 2011

        Yes, I want to agree so much… We watch our team week in, week out and we didn’t see them hit past second gear. Even the commentators admitted that the game was slow. Some Madridistas will look at us and say that we were successfully subdued by RM’s intensity or Mou’s tactics, but I don’t buy it. We’ll see soon enough.

  56. BarcaGirl_Indo
    April 16, 2011

    so it’s Adriano who got bad injured, not Puyi?

    oh, no…it’ll be Maxwell then…we’ve seen what he can do in just a few minutes… 🙁

  57. Humphrey Bogart
    April 16, 2011

    Bah, this Mou whining is really getting overboard. Okay, he wants to put pressure on the ref, create some kind of siege mentality, blah, blah,

    but it is not even funny anymore, it is just so predictable, even before his pc I knew what he will say.

    Does he somhow misses the fact that it was a foul from the last man and so Albiol was rightly send off?

    • Diego
      April 16, 2011

      I love how he says that the linesman said he didn’t send Alves off because he’s a fullback.

    • Barka
      April 16, 2011

      He whined to get our players mad and react negatively in the match. I hope they don’t fall for his trick.

      • Ian
        April 16, 2011

        I think they’re used to it… Well, according to history we’ve managed anyway

  58. Diego
    April 16, 2011

    Btw, Yellow cards aren’t for a yellow card deserving tackle only, It’s when a player insists on playing dirty and keeps making fouls.

    • April 16, 2011

      The cards were 3-5 in EE’s favour. Considering how they pressed and we didn’t (not much, anyway), this shouldn’t be, so let’s look at them:

      Xavi, VV and Pique for dissent. Adriano for “blocking” Khedira. Alves for a foul on Adebayor.

      3 of those yellows could have been avoided, while Adriano’s wasn’t a yellow( IMO). Alves’ I’ll have to see again.

      • Jnice
        April 16, 2011

        Adriano’s was never a yellow. And for him to get booked 8 minutes into the game, while Pepe and Khedira got away with niggly fouls time and time again is ridiculous.

  59. April 16, 2011

    I think we did fairly okay, especially considering it looked like the Barca players were in second gear for a large part of the game, and RM really gave it everything, yet we managed a draw in Bernabeu, and could’ve almost won. Good enough result for me, and a good foreboding of things to come (knock on all things wood). It’s on the next game now.

  60. April 16, 2011

    If a 1-1 tie at home is a “psychological boost” for RM then that would really be saying how low expectations have gotten in Madrid.

    It’s not a psychological victory in any way. At Camp Nou – perhaps. But not at the Bernabeau. No way.

    I hope Adriano is healthy for Wednesday but it may be very difficult. He was masterful today. His pace really neutralized C. Ronaldo and his defensive presence saved the team from disaster.

    He’s become an excellent LB. Really wonderful.

    It’s very difficult playing teams with that much pace with Maxwell at LB. Adriano coming out of the match helped turn things.

    The squad is really struggling with depth right now. They literally are running out of players. It’s very concerning.

    Also – I think we are going to see Ramos at CB and Pepe at DM.

    • messi_fan
      April 16, 2011

      Well Euler, hopefully this acts as a wakeup call for the powers that be. Versatile players are good and all, but you still need numbers.

      But to be honest, we can’t really complain about LB. We have 3 players for that position. It’s more bad luck than anything else that Abidal (and now maybe Adriano) are out. I know that you don’t like Maxwell, but look at it this way. Abidal is GREAT, Adriano is good and Maxwell is decent.

      The problems at CB and striker however are unforgivable. Especially considering how many players we have at those positions out on loan.

  61. jordi™
    April 16, 2011

    The security of 8 points is what kept them satisfied after the 1-0 and red.In recent years we have had a small lead so they’ve gone for it.Had we only gone there with a 2 point lead they would’ve been much more intense, which arguers well for the cup final I think.In matches with everything on the line, theres no better team than us.The one thing I fear is that by the end of the series, the intensity of the 4 games will have taken its toll mentally and physically.The attackers look dead especially.Its gonna be pure will power and adrenaline taking them over the line if anything.

  62. Jnice
    April 16, 2011

    I just want to know everyone’s thoughts on the penalty on Marcelo.

    I’ve watched it over and over and I don’t see how that is a penalty. Dani may have missed the ball, but did he really touch Marcelo? Contact that slight can’t make you go down like that. It just can’t. Marcelo does the running man then decides, “hey, I’m going to go down.”

    And if that’s a penalty, then Villa’s is 100% a penalty.

    Anyway, a draw is a fine result, but I didn’t like how we looked after we went a man up. Some of our play reminded me of how we looked against Arsenal in the 1st leg.

    And I must say, the way Madrid fans are celebrating the draw, I don’t know…. just makes me wonder. I’ll leave it at that.

    • Diego
      April 16, 2011

      I didn’t see Dani getting the ball but I didn’t see him getting Marcelo either. The way Marcelo fell made me think it was a dive. If there was contact he would have fallen on his face.

      And If that was a penalty, Villa’s is too.

    • Nav
      April 16, 2011

      Penalty on Marcelo was weak. Yeah there was some contact there but if that’s a penalty then so is Villa’s in the first half.

      Madrid fans are celebrating the draw? Why?

    • jordi™
      April 16, 2011

      I certainly think it wasnt a pk, but its like the second time Dani dived in and got one against him.Sometimes he nicks the ball but I wish he would gamble only when it necessary.I don’t think Marcelo was going anywhere.

      As for Madridistas, i agree 100 %.Imagine they of 9 european cups and 31 ligas have been reduced to playing at home like they’re the away team these days.If that was us it would be our classic cule inferiority complex pf course.

    • April 16, 2011

      Well, I think it’s more for the spirit they showed after going down to 10.

      I’m not surprised; if roles were reversed, I’d be happy we drew. *shrug*

      I’m surprisingly neutral today, but that might be because a) this match was the least important and b) the need to offset the ridiculousness that comes post-clasico and pre-reason.

    • April 16, 2011

      I will answer some of your questions really fast, and leave my complete opinion for when Kev hits us with review goodness.

      First off, I’m mentally exhausted. If the league clasico that had no meaning drained so much effort, then i fear for the second ones. Especially with myself, since i had to write 6 pieces about the game in 2 days.

      The reason why Madrid fans, including myself, are celebrating is because with ten men, the team still managed to pull back and draw. Against a team that beat us 5-0 4 months ago. That means that the team is doing better. Not only that, but had we been better at finishing and save for Adriano brilliance, we could have won the game.

      As for the penalty, as i mentioned on my board, i think it was legit. Soft, but legit. If I’m not mistaken the dragging foot of Alves clipped the bottom of Marcelo’s foot. This is from during the game viewing, so I am not a hundred percent sure.

      As for the Villa first shout out for a penalty, i have seen that several times now and its not a penalty. He went down before he made contact with Iker. Had he continued running forward, Iker would have made contact with him and he could have gotten his penalty. He just went down too early.

      Anyways, i thought it was a great game save for the first 30 minutes were my team had the 5-0 glaring in their eyes. Once they got over that first 30 minutes, they looked much better. Looking forward to what Kxevin has to say about the game. If you want my views on my platers, you can go check it out.

      And PS, are you guys sending cookies and pots of gold for Adriano and his family. Had it not been for him, the game would have been very different.

      • Josep
        April 16, 2011

        had you had brilliant finishing? c’mon bassam.. had we had Villa playing like David Villa.. also I don’t even remember your finishing letting you down.
        khedira? adebayor heading it backwards? cristiano hitting the post? I mean, those aren’t really “finishing” problems.

        he went down too early? But you accept Marcelo’s penalty? I won’t rip on you because i like you, but you need to watch those a few more, they’re basically the same penalty.

        • Jnice
          April 16, 2011

          I agree 100% with Josep and Nav. Hypothetical questions work both ways.

          And if you accept Marcelo’s penalty, but aren’t prepared to acknowledge Villa’s, then I don’t know what to say.

          Send Villa some cookies and I’ll think about sending Adriano some. Adriano’s a defender, he did his job. Villa didn’t.

          • April 16, 2011

            I clearly said that i have only seen Marcelo’s once, and it looked like a penalty to me. I saw Villa’s more than once (during half time) and it didn’t look like a penalty at all. You are putting words in my mouth my friend, as always. I urge you to please read what i wrote at it is, not as an interpretation. I clearly said that my assessment of the Marcelo penalty was from FIRST view.

            They do work both ways my friend. But here is the deal. Compared to how little chances we got last game, having more than one scoring opportunity was a good thing. If you look at the chances in the game, both teams had the same amount of chances. Ronaldo’s chance after the pass from Marcelo, the header from Ramos that was saved off the line and Khedira’s shot. You guys had the two Messi shots (the lob and the shot saved by Iker) and the Villa lack of control.

            And i don’t think you got my Adriano comment. I was saying he did his job….

      • April 16, 2011

        PS, are you guys sending cookies and pots of gold for Adriano and his family. Had it not been for him, the game would have been very different.

        Depends on what you’re sending Villa and his family. 😉

      • Nav
        April 16, 2011

        Why is it that everytime someone ‘misses’ against us the ‘whole game could have gone differently’, but when Messi/Villa misses it’s not mentioned at all?

      • PhepheSa
        April 16, 2011

        I’m happy for you Bassam but i think you guys are just trying to make yourselves feel better about the result(sorry don’t know how else to put it). With all due respect i honestly don’t think you could have done any differently if your player wasn’t sent off. We probably would have moved up another gear and don’t see how you could have beat us even with 11. Like someone said(think it was Ramzi) you still haven’t found a way to dominate us beat us in a match.

    • providence
      April 16, 2011

      there was a slight touch but i think that tackle could be avoided since he could have closed in Marcelo, the past is past, now lets think about how to outplay PEPE and MARCELO, and how we would get the best out of INIESTA, VILLA AND PEDRO, they were dull for me today

  63. Josep
    April 16, 2011

    you guys saying that Marcelo won that penalty are just saying it to try and look like we don’t complain right? that was never a penalty.

    there’s no way thats a penalty
    1. if that is, Villa’s was.
    2. why does he not see yellow then?
    3. god damnit maxwell you cheaply lose possession and look what happens

    the match was horribly officiated, at both ends. they always got the cheap fouls right outside the box. whatever, that match sucked. messi was walking, villa.. i don’t know. that was terrible. pique, xavi, alves, vv, all need to learn to shutup. adriano is a god damn beast.

    rm looked like they had no intention to win at all though. and mourinho says the 4th official said alves wasnt sent off cuz hes a fullback? theres no way i believe the official said that.

    • Jnice
      April 16, 2011

      For real man. I’ve watched the video like 20 times, how is that a penalty? Let’s be serious.

      I don’t believe Mourinho, either.

    • Jim
      April 16, 2011

      1. I thought Villa’s was but it was a close call as was Marcello’s and that’s with the benefit of slomo about twenty times.
      2. He should have if the ref thought it was a penalty and he had a chance of scoring.

      For number three, see above. I’m too tired to argue with you again.

      • Josep
        April 16, 2011

        what about number 3? maxwell came on, and lost possession and didn’t get back. but in his defense the whole penalty situation could’ve been stopped 5-6 ways. sometimes I just wish we’d fucking boot the ball out.

        • Jim
          April 16, 2011

          Look Maxwell never had possession and did get back ( see above).

          Otherwise, I agree with you. Person with the best chance to get rid of it that way was Pique but I can’t argue with that either because 90% of the time Xavi would have taken it, performed his 360 degree turn and run off with the ball. It’s the way we play and when it works I love it so I can’t turn round when it doesn’t and second guess them.

        • Para
          April 16, 2011

          I think what Jim meant was see his comment above. He addresses your comment in number 3.

  64. Josep
    April 16, 2011

    i hate how marcelo jumped into adebayor’s arms after the pk. much like di maria does. do we do that? I honestly never noticed.

    tommy smyth is such a homer.

  65. April 16, 2011

    @Jnice and Josep: I only saw the penalty once, in live time. It looked a pen to me, but yeah, I immediately thought, “What about Villa’s?”

    I’ll look at it again along with Alves’ yellow.

    I’m excited for the Cup final. The only worry I have is Peeeento isn’t Valdes.

    • Josep
      April 16, 2011

      alves yellow seemed more to be for his typical dissent arm in the air “that wasn’t a foul” move.

      There were people on twitter actually saying Villa’s second (the one that drew the red) wasn’t a PK..

  66. Para
    April 16, 2011

    Forca Barca is trending worldwide 🙂

  67. deckardcain
    April 16, 2011

    Marcelo shouldn’t have gotten the penalty, no contact, the Alves yellow for NOT touching adebayor is complete silliness aswell. Villa should have gotten a penalty in the first half.

    • Josep
      April 16, 2011

      ugh, it must be said I still play diablo ii. haha.

      • deckardcain
        April 16, 2011

        I probably would to if I had the free time, epic epicness!

  68. Diego
    April 16, 2011

    When I saw EE’s players and crowd celebrating the goal and the draw, I felt much better about the draw myself.

    Mou will have to attack in CL.

    I feel sorry for EE, Mou was afraid to open up play and lose, so he played for defense which hurt EE’s quest for La Liga.

  69. Nav
    April 16, 2011

    I think the worst part of this match was Adriano’s injury. That really stings.

    • Diego
      April 16, 2011

      I still can’t understand how he didn’t get a yellow.

  70. mega_tajh
    April 16, 2011

    lol…….who else thought it was funny when Pepe asked Messi if he was crazy…..of all people..

    • BarcaGirl_Indo
      April 16, 2011

      HAHAHAHAHA…

      I’m sure 100% that’ll work to stop us…

      • Para
        April 16, 2011

        Nononono, you see, our team of shorties will be able to get through the grass without being seen by anyone! Pique and busquets will distract RM with fancy arm-waving and running about, while the wee ones roll the ball into the net!

  71. Diego
    April 16, 2011

    BREAKING NEWS : Fullbacks don’t get sent off.

  72. Diego
    April 16, 2011

    SPORT : Sabra Muniz lo que es un penalty.

    😀

  73. mardia
    April 16, 2011

    I know I shouldn’t get worked up about Mourinho and his complaints about the referee, but apparently he’s wondering why he’s always down to 10 against Barca–which, dude. COME ON.

    Sergio Ramos assaulted no less than three Barca players before leaving the pitch in the 5-0. Raul Albiol was choking Villa in the box to keep him from scoring. How he can stand there and say neither of those incidents were deserving of red cards is beyond me.

    Phew, I’m glad I got that off my chest.

      • mardia
        April 16, 2011

        I can think of plenty of things to call him, but that’s not one of them, tbh.

    • BarcaGirl_Indo
      April 16, 2011

      I don’t hate him since 2006 for no reason…

      I always scream : IBLIS!!! whenever his face showed up in my TV screen…

        • BarcaGirl_Indo
          April 16, 2011

          yes, in Arabic…
          in Indonesian language it’s the same word, IBLIS…

          I just dislike him that much…

  74. Humphrey Bogart
    April 16, 2011

    From Sid Lowe

    Mou says Barca ‘control’ everything around games (ie refs, fixtures, etc). Says refs no treating teams same. Says RM in control with 11

    Bah, this guy is really getting on my nerves,

    • PhepheSa
      April 16, 2011

      I’d ask him if he doesn’t find it strange that that of all the teams with paly against, his are the only ones that usually end up with 10 men. He needs to tell his players to stop being thugs and see what happens. I sick of him now, he’s got no class whatsoever.

  75. Vj
    April 16, 2011

    Ok, final comments before I call it a night (or morning as I may see the sun as I type :P)

    Stings not to win when we should’ve. But was it really required? With an 8 pt lead we should seal the Liga in the next 4 games. Plus we were able to rest Puyol though shit happened with Adriano..

    Another plus is the players WILL BE PISSED they didn’t close this one out. Better in now than on Wednesday right? I hope they go all mental like they did against Sevilla last year..

    Onto the Copa now with a fresh sMasch (with whom I believe we wouldn’t have conceded that PK)! Força Barça!

    • mardia
      April 16, 2011

      Honestly, I’m expecting the same response that we saw against Arsenal in the second leg at the Camp Nou. Plus, sMasch will be back as well, which is excellent if Puyol won’t be there.

      Forca Barca.

  76. mardia
    April 16, 2011

    And for all of us still seething quietly about the refereeing in this match (I know it’s not the cule thing to do, and I should follow Pep’s example, but bah) Sid Lowe’s made an excellent point on Twitter–virtually everyone so far is ignoring the fact that Real Madrid have just (virtually) lost the league.

    We take this one Clasico at a time, go out there with our best available XI, and take it from there. At this point, I’m gonna leave the morbo to everyone else. I’m exhausted and we’re only 1/4th of the way through. Madridistas can do whatever they want, they can say whatever they want, I am officially refusing to pay attention anymore.

  77. jordi™
    April 16, 2011

    Pepe asked Messi if he was crazy 😀

    I dont support what Leo did, but thats like Ronaldo calling Iniesta a diver.OOh wait that happened too last year.Masters of irony these Madrid players.

    • April 16, 2011

      Did anyone see the min-by-min on the Guardian?! Scott Murray, or whatever his name is, tried his damnest to make us looking like dirty, cheating gits. If it wasn’t so sad, and embarressing particularly from a reputable newspaper like the Guardian, it’d be hilarous. He has it in for Messi, Messi in particular, of all people.

      • Humphrey Bogart
        April 16, 2011

        Yeah, I was having a peak and could hardly believe what I was reading there. Maybe Kxvin can help me out here but I think the most important thing for a journalist is to be not partisan.

      • Jnice
        April 16, 2011

        It’s unbelievable. I’m ready to stop reading anything that isn’t written by someone on this website.

        I’ve had enough.

      • blitzen
        April 16, 2011

        The Guardian? Seriously? But I usually like them. 🙁

  78. April 16, 2011

    Forget the penalties. That is not our game.

    The fact is that we had the opportunity to kill off this match over and over and over and over and didn’t do it.

    Case closed.

    We all know that 1-0 is absolutely tenuous and problematic because any fluke play can change the game.

    And that’s exactly what happened today. So it goes.

    Kill off the game and go home. They had so many chances to do so and didn’t.

    There was no doubt that RM would play for a PK down 1-0 at home down a man. No doubt.

    And we put them in a position through which that would be profitable.

    No one can be surprised that Marcelo just went down in the box. It was inevitable that would happen if the opportunity presented itself.

    The second goal was the key. A second goal – game over.

    • Jnice
      April 16, 2011

      As I said earlier, the way we played a man up, reminded me of how we looked in the first leg against Arsenal. Too comfortable with the 1 goal lead and too relaxed.

      We’ll see what happens on Wednesday.

    • April 16, 2011

      Also – just for clarification purposes – I didn’t agree with Marcelo getting that call. It was ridiculously soft. But it was in realm of possibility that something would get called when Dani went to ground without absolute need.

      That call was magnified because of the poor finishing that prevented the second goal from ending the match.

    • April 16, 2011

      I don’t see how you could possibly be more right. I’m not gonna bother much going back to the penalty calls, though I often do go back just to look at ref decisions, because what we can take away from this match doesn’t have much to do with those penalties.

    • April 16, 2011

      Yeah, I said something pretty similar: Villa takes even once of his chances and the ref is irrelevant. Simple.

    • BarcaGirl_Indo
      April 16, 2011

      exactly…that’s why I was so pissed…

      it’s the way we played after the lead… I just knew they would score…

      but I believe it wouldn’t be like that if the point difference was 2 or 5…
      we obviously played at second gear…

      it’ll be a different mentality in CdR final…

  79. messi_fan
    April 16, 2011

    We shouldn’t let Mou and some biased journalists get us upset. Anybody who calls Messi a diver is an idiot, plain and simple.

    Anywho, about the game itself. Pepe played great as was mentioned before. But I noticed a distinct lack of urgency on our part. I watched El Clasico the movie last week. The main thing I noticed in that match was how much we harassed the Madrid players. Especially Pedro. He give Marcelo fits in the last match. Today we gave them a lot of time on the ball.

    Will be interesting to see how much effort we expend on Wednesday though and what tactics Mou uses.

    • April 16, 2011

      I’m not upset as much as I am incredulous that such a person could write a site that has a pretty decent rep in the shiznit fest that is the BritPress. Can I haz a job at the Guardian?

      • Para
        April 16, 2011

        Why would you want one when you’ve got the best job EVAR at villarato corp?!

        • April 16, 2011

          Touche, Para.

          Well, if I ever leave that job, I’d tackle the beast that is the BritPress. I don’t have to put up with them on a weekly basis though, so that’s the EPL fans’ problem. 😀

          • April 16, 2011

            I smell the next Villarato Corp. post… where BritPress Inc. surprises Kari on her lunch break and tries to recruit her out of Villarato Corp!

          • mardia
            April 16, 2011

            Kari–be grateful for that, seriously. The Spanish press (imo) is worse, but as a Liverpool fan, I’m STILL livid at the ton of grief that the fans got when we were complaining about Roy Hodgson’s shoddy MISmanagement of our team and everyone in the BritPress labeled us ungrateful whiners who didn’t know how to appreciate a good, solid, reliable British manager when we saw one. (I maintain that had Hodgson not been British, they would have turned on him much more quickly.)

  80. jordi™
    April 16, 2011

    Mou also said they knew how to play us with 10.What does that even mean? If villa had killed the game, would he have “known” then too? Oh and we control the refs, schedules, everything.Has their ever been anyone so obnoxious and narcissistic as a manager in the history of the sport? Cant wait till he fecks off to Manchester.

    • messi_fan
      April 16, 2011

      Before the match he said they would practice to play against us with 10 men because apparently when you play us you always end up down a man.

      In a way I think this draw is better for our players than a win. Pep can point to it and say, “see what happens when we take our foot off the gas?”

    • PhepheSa
      April 16, 2011

      Someone on Sid Lowe’s Guardian match report wrote this:

      “A week ago TV3 showed a mash up of:

      1. Mourinho whinging about refs, timetables and playing with 10 men, in Portuguese whilst managing Oporto.

      2. Mourinho whinging about refs, timetables and playing with 10 men, in English whilst managing Chelsea.

      3. Mourinho whinging about refs, timetables and playing with 10 men, in Italian whilst managing Inter.

      4. Mourinho whinging about refs, timetables and playing with 10 men, in Castilian whilst managing Madrid.”

      Why the hell do the media give him so much attention! The guy is a loon.

  81. April 16, 2011

    Alves: “We’ll have to adapt to Madrid’s game because we’ll be back here. Can’t wait for cup final because we leave with bittersweet taste” [barcastuff]

    It’s official: EE are going down. Oh yes.

    • mardia
      April 16, 2011

      I’m calling it right now: expect a smackdown on the level of Arsenal at the Camp Nou this year (minus the OG.)

  82. April 16, 2011

    One of the best aspects to this match – Pique was just terrific at the back.

    This may have been the first match of this season where I really felt we were once again seeing the real Pique – the player who was one of single best CB in the world.

    Puyol was also remarkably in form. I didn’t think he would be able to play close to that form given how many matches he missed.

    Coming into this match the back line was the huge question.

    If Puyol and Adriano are in fact healthy enough to play moving forward many, many of the questions related to the back will be answered positively.

    The way the back line played while Puyol and Adriano were in the game with Pique in form – that was a back line that can win a treble.

  83. blitzen
    April 16, 2011

    W00t w00t!!!!! Ok, this isn’t a win, but it feels like one to me! We are still 8 points up on RM, and it seems highly likely that the league is in the bag. Yay!

    3 more Clasicos to go.

  84. Humphrey Bogart
    April 16, 2011

    100% agree with you Euler. It is downright astonishing which effect the sole presence of Puyi had on Pique. He looked like a completly new player, I could hardly believe my eyes.

  85. April 16, 2011

    Dani Alves

    2011-04-16_PARTIDO_12.JPG”No comparto la decisión del árbitro porque toco el balón limpio y no le toco a él. Además, Marcelo me ha dicho que se tenía que tirar”.

    Is it my bad spanish or did alves just said that marcelo told him that he had to dive?!

  86. April 16, 2011

    Also, why aren’t we celebrating? WE BASICALLY JUST WON LA LIGA. #biggerpicturepeople

    • April 16, 2011

      well I think it’s for two reasons…
      first I think this team has spoiled just a little bit(in a good way of course)it says much about our team’s dynamic that we are kinda upset with the draw and the other are celebrating…

      Second its just that we were soooo close to wining and sealing la liga for 2011…
      I’m sure we’ll all be more upbeat tomorrow 🙂

          • April 16, 2011

            Thanks Kari you’re a great true cule!

            To my( Mou ) excuse its 3:50 am in Greece so it’s starting to get to me…but this match got me so tensed I’m kinda in “fast zombie” mode and sleep seems far away:)

  87. April 16, 2011

    Folks – just remember. RM greatly solidified it’s defense today. But they did so at a real cost. They lost almost all creativity within their midfield and were reduced to linear, direct play that had a limited number of dimensions to it.

    This was the most predictable I’ve seen them play all season long in attack.

    Pepe solidified their defense between the lines. But without Oezil they were not nearly as dangerous.

    And this points out a real issue for Madrid. Real Madrid’s best 11 may not include Xabi Alonso.

    • mardia
      April 16, 2011

      But Euler, don’t you think they can just play Alonso, Ozil, and Pepe together in defense? And I’m surprised at your comment about Alonso, I’ve always been under the impression he’s one of their most crucial players this season.

      • April 16, 2011

        They could play Ozil, Alonso and Pepe. But that puts a great deal of pressure on Pepe to defend and do all the dirty work.

        I personally would play that formation if I were RM. But there are risks as Pepe would have to anchor the midfield mostly by himself.

        But it really depends on how much RM want to utilize a player like khedira to do the “dirty work” or not. If they want that kind mobile holding player who will be more defensively oriented then it’s difficult to fit Alonso on the team.

        Alonso is very good at what he does. But it can be very difficult to play a specialist midfielder like Alonso against Barca as he’s not that strong defensively and close control of the ball is not his strength.

  88. soccermomof4
    April 16, 2011

    Hey y’all,

    1-1 suits me just fine. 0-1 would have had me over the moon, but 1-1 is fine. 1-1 for us in their house is a victory for us. 1-1 in their house is a defeat for them.

    Good points:
    Messi scores against Mou (but what’s with the need to chip?!)
    We never really worked that hard.
    Adriano has been channeling Abi or something; he’s become the back line beast. Hope he’s not too hurt!
    Puyi is back; hope he’s not too hurt!
    Pique looked better with puyi there.
    They looked good and played well but had too work really really hard!
    It would have been 1-2 had we gotten that call.
    We are 8 points up! Remember when we thought that 5 points up was so good?

    Lesson of the day- Love your team, trust your coach, and for goodness sake will somebody do something about Xavi running his mouth and getting cards!

  89. Lou
    April 16, 2011

    Good result. If we come away from the Bernabeu with a 1-1 draw in the first leg of the Champion’s League semifinal I’ll be satisfied.

    Plus the team clearly wasn’t playing at full intensity. Even after Madrid equalized they clearly weren’t worried about having to settle for a draw.

    I feel much better about our chances for the CL semi now.

    The Copa will depend a lot on how well Pinto subs for Valdes. He’s not as good with his passing and clearing of the ball, which is a definite disadvantage against Madrid. At least Mou won’t be able to control the pitch in Valencia.

  90. April 16, 2011

    @providence: I’d play Puyi, no doubt, and for the full 90, if he can. Depending on the score, however, I’d sub him for sMasch. We have that luxury. Although Pique has returned to form at a crucial moment. Shakira: MOAR world tours, please!

    Also, I currently have no solid ideas for Villarato! Corp. I have been wanting to do the BritPress, particularly re: Fabregas Saga, but I haven’t had the time or ideas.

    Lastly, and I’ll keep saying it, we were playing second gear. Madridista won’t want to admit it, but it’s true, and subconsciously they know it as well. Liga is ours and they expended all that energy and are buoyed for que? A draw after playing essentially 7 defenders (Alonso could be debabtable, but I count him) and counter attacking at home.

    I LOL’d at how Marcelo and Mourinho were celebrating after they got a penalty. It was an admission of inferiority, as one commenter put it. It shows what it’s really what it’s come to: getting excited about the chance of not being associated with another loss to us. At home, to boot

    And Cules are supposed to have an inferiority complex and EE have the psychological advantage. ROFL.

  91. xavi
    April 16, 2011

    I read only 50 posts or some thing and I couldn’t control myself from posting this, please bear with me…

    I’m absolutely shocked from the kind of negativism being exhibited here… I have my points for that

    1) First off, Madrid clearly played the very same tactics they played in the first leg, you know all that shrinking the width of the pitch and keeping Ronaldo away from his favorable left side position, playing di Maria practically as a LB(I think Euler would back me up with this)… except having another defensive midfielder sacrificing a creating mid fielder, if any thing that seems a real positive to me!!

    2) You gotta understand that Pepe *doing well* is mainly because of the home support and nothing else. For all the fouls he committed, if it was anywhere away from Bernabeeeew he would be red carded. Remember Song also gave us problems at Emirates

    3) So again coming to the tactics, having 3 defensive mid fielders in the middle, effectively one who’s very poor at passing(read Pepe) they are now not only sacrificing possession but also the chances to counter too! I mean with Ozil/Kaka in the middle they would have 4 pacey players(Ozil/Kaka, Ronaldo, di Maria & the striker) but with today’s tactics they would have one less player to utilize their main weapon, that is counter attack!!

    4) Puyi seems to be withdrawn just as a precaution and may be as a mind game too, yeah I agree this is the optimist in me speaking

    5) The most important one here… People keep saying we lost the psychological advantage by conceding against a 10 men team. I agree to some extent on that because it’s never a positive to concede while having the number advantage, but there are many factors leading to that happening!!
    First of all by scoring first we dealt a huge blow on their confidence, although they did come back they will still feel they are always vulnerable at the back.
    Secondly we totally rested once we had the lead making them run for the ball and hence unsettling them with the fatigue factor, I think Ramzi agrees with this point too.
    With the Madrid team on high confidence now, thinking that moving Pepe to DM position is such a grande success, I wonder how there could be any kind of complacency from our side for the rest of the matches!

    6) Even if Pepe’s shift in position is actually a good move there’s not much they can do about it, do they now!? They lost Albiol for the CDR and Carvalho for the CL semi finals first leg, which means they don’t have the luxury to use Pepe in midfield until the CL 2nd leg! If anything, their morale should slightly drop now because it’s like giving the hope of a chocolate to a frustrated kid only to snatch it away the next minute!!

    7) Adriano been a beast tonight, which is a huge confidence booster because he was always the weak link on paper with Abidal out

    8) Marcelo was skinned by Afellay, our substitute player did that to arguably the best LB of the season!!

    These points might not be exploited by our team when it matters the most but they are nonetheless the positives from this match! Now cut the crying out PLEASE!! For fcuk’s sake we sealed the league tonight!!

    • Para
      April 16, 2011

      The lower down you read, the more cautiously optimistic it gets. 🙂 in any case, I don’t think that Pepe doing well in the mid-field is saying that Barca have no hope–it’s just an admission that he did play well in that role. You have a good point though, regarding home-support and potential cards.

      • xavi
        April 16, 2011

        haha yeah, after going through all of them it seemed so… But as I said I couldn’t control myself. There was so much of those negative posts up there!!

    • April 16, 2011

      Yes! Agreed! (Except for #8, but I’ll give you a pass since you did say “arguably”). #2 is a great point–I seriously doubt Pepe would have been able to get away with those fouls in Camp Nou (or any stadium that’s not the Bernabeww) and #4 is what I think as well; Puyi isn’t match fit after all. Leaving with an “injury” puts doubt for the CdR final, and this is after playing 60 minutes to get into his DEATH BY TACKLE mojo. 😀

      • xavi
        April 16, 2011

        If it were in my hands I’d announce Abi is in the squad too :p

  92. April 16, 2011

    We did what we had to do tonight, which was not lose. You could tell from the way we were playing that tonight was about controlling the tempo of the game, keeping possession and not allowing them to score. It says a lot that we can go into their house, play at about 60-70% and leave with a draw, which they were gifted. We created plenty of chances without even really piling on the pressure and that was with them playing super defensive.

    Even Messi was quite quiet, usually he is really fired up for these games. I bet we see a completely different attitude come Wednesday. I think we will go at them hard and fast and try to score early on.

    Adriano gets better and better each time he plays. What a great buy he turned out to be. I really do think we have solved our LB problem. He was such a beast today. I REALLY hope his injury is minor.

    Villa is starting to worry me, he really is. Every decision he makes seems to be the wrong one. He passes when he should shoot and when he shoots it is without any real belief. He looks unsure of himself. At least he is defending, but really we didnt pay 40m for an extra defender.

    Another thing, MAdrid worked VERY hard tonight. They chased and pressed and actually impressed me quite a bit with their attitude… BUT that means they will be tired come Wed, when they will have to press even more because I have a feeling we are brining our A-game.

  93. Lou
    April 16, 2011

    Wow, I just read the Guardian minute by minute report.

    I didn’t think Messi dived at all. He lost his balance but tried to get the ball away from the Madrid players and ended up getting hit in face with someone’s leg, which probably hurt like hell.

    It’s not like he was trying to win a penalty.

    Did anyone else see it differently?

    • Diego
      April 16, 2011

      No, We saw it like you. Guardian is biased.

  94. xavi
    April 16, 2011

    @blaunero’s – “Honestly I know it shouldn’t worry me in the least. With an 8pt lead and 6 matches to go, the league is evidently but not yet mathematically ours. But it worries me that we basically toyed with them after we were up only 1-0. If Real had any other coach I wouldn’t much care. But it’s Mourinho, and if I remember correctly we toyed with his Inter team in November ’09 before they crashed us out of the CL 4/5 months later.”

    I understand your sentiments man, totally. Usually I think in your points when everybody around me feels ‘over-optimistic’ as you say… But how the hell did we toy around with Inter in November ’09 again!? If any, we gave his team an ass-spanking that too when he kinda gave a statement like he’d feel honored to kick us out of group stages or something! And again how is it toying with his team in November when we got knocked out in semi’s, that is in April!?

    • xavi
      April 16, 2011

      And I forgot to mention The Valcano, The Road Trip, The referee(both the legs :angry:)…

  95. Jnice
    April 16, 2011

    I must say, though… looking at our offensive options on the bench tonight makes me really interested in who we will be bringing in this summer.

    We are in desperate need of some more options.

      • messi_fan
        April 16, 2011

        OOops. For some odd reason I read that as DEfensive options

  96. April 16, 2011

    http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2011/04/16/2444801/real-madrids-iker-casillas-admits-it-was-difficult-to-beat

    “Real Madrid’s Iker Casillas admits it was difficult to beat Barcelona after red card to Raul Albiol”

    I know this is BS.com, but since when is drawing a team = to winning? Read what Casillas is actually saying, dude.

    Actually, it’s been a long time since I’ve acutally gone to there. It shows because I got a bit annoyed when I saw this: http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2011/04/17/2444215/jose-mourinho-figures-out-pep-guardiola-all-over-again-as

    I think the world has conveniently ignored EE essentially lost La Liga today.

    • April 16, 2011

      Oh, and I also forgot you can’t call them out on their bullsh*t, because they won’t publish your comments. Silly me.

    • Diego
      April 16, 2011

      I love (actually I hate) how Mourinho loses or draws and he’s praised for his fine tactics and awesome gameplan.

      Mourinho has lost three times (with Inter 2-0 and 1-0 and with Madrid 5-0 in Camp Nou), drew twice (with Inter 0-0 in Meazza, with Madrid 1-1 in Bernabeu) and won once (3-1 with Inter in Meazza). If it was anyone else but Mourinho people would have said that is a terrible record.

      *Classico liveblog at Real.Offside is definitely not PG. I love (Make that I hate) how all of them Ignored and denied Villa’s penalty calling us divers and they say Marcelo’s was a clear penalty.

      *Kari, How do I do the scratch thing ?

      • April 16, 2011

        Same as how you do bold and itactics, but use “strike” instead of “b” or “i”. Like, [strike] [/strike] but with < < and >> instead of [ and ]

        • April 16, 2011

          You take out one of the arrows of course. I just put two so it would show up.

  97. Víctor
    April 16, 2011

    Good result. I wouldn’t have risked Puyol, but then again… like Kxevin says… I’m not the coach of the best team of the world. Many yellow cards for Barcelona as well… that is a sign that we had a difficult time.

    Now, going back to main topic: Villa. while I agree that he had a bad game… I seriously don’t get you people. If Villa doesn’t press and doesn’t track back you people bitch at him for not doing so… and when he does… you people bitch at him because “that’s not his job”. so, which is it, people?

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