Of Identity Theft and The Offside

Numbers start with 1, 2, 3; the Alphabet starts with ABC; Identity Theft starts with not fun-ny.

—Yours Truly.

I’m going to cut to the chase and say there are people impersonating me on the site The Offside. I don’t know why they are doing it, or what they hope to achieve but they are commenting on the Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Inter Offsides to my knowledge.

As a result, I will no longer be commenting on the Offside site until further notice.

This situation was first brought to my attention by commenter/reader beeeef, who had informed me someone was commenting on the Arsenal Offside under the name “Kari” about the Toral case. Other commenters (Tajh and ak amongst others) have also informed me of other appearances made by this “Kari”.

I’ll be honest here: the first time I saw that someone was using my name to post comments, I was annoyed but also quite flattered. Sure, it’s a piss off if someone is using your name and pretending they are you, but it also means they like you enough to go that far, right? They must like my work, right? And out of all the possible writers here, they had picked me of all people (that says something about their judgement skills). Then again, it’s also true they could hate or have a vendetta against me. Why else would they spend their time trolling (yes, I consider what they are doing trolling) other blogs under my name?

I had gone on to inform those Offsides that this fake Kari was not me and I thought I would just leave it at that. This person would eventually get bored and go away, I thought.

Except it didn’t work out that way.

Yesterday, this impersonation was taken to another, much, much scarier, level. Another “Kari” had shown up using the same avatar, name, and link to BFB as me. They had decided to post on the Arsenal Offside, replaying to the other “Kari”, Real Madrid Offside, and Barca Offside. I had hoped maybe Kxevin or someone from the Team had, for some odd reason, taken my email and started to post to counter the other, more aggressive, “Kari”.

It was swiftly and completely denied.

I won’t lie: I was scared. Really scared. I had thought I’d been hacked somehow. Or that someone on the Offside had somehow gotten my email and was using it. There were a million thoughts going through my head and none of them were positive.

I have since gotten their information from My Favourite Real Madrid Writer to whom I’m forever grateful for (he knows who he is!) and have found my email has not been hacked. The second Kari took the time to find my avatar on Google Images. I have the emails and names of both of the fake Kari’s. I won’t reveal them, but I know who you are.

Stop it. Now. The joke is over. You may not be saying offensive, trollish comments, which I am thankful for, but this is creepy. I don’t feel flattered–I feel violated. If you’re dying for your comments to be read that badly, repost them a million times; someone will read it then. Or make a name for yourself and post under it. If you continue to post comments under my name, prepare to be banned.

Right now, I’m upset. Genuinely upset. I’m going to take a break from the blog to clear my head.

I have never been the victim of Identity Theft before, so this was a first. I never, for a second, thought this would happen to me. Maybe some time in the future, I’ll look back and say this ordeal was flattering and that I might be overreacting (I doubt it), but right now, I just feel betrayed, unnerved, violated and so many other things. It’s all fun and games until someone assumes your identity, huh? And that was the creepiest part. It’s not what they are saying under my name that’s bothering me, it’s that they have tried to take my name and pass off as me.

That’s wrong. Just so wrong.

In any case, I’ll see you guys soon,

Kari

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  1. Extreme barca fan
    February 28, 2011

    Well said Kari

    I’m 100% percent with you on this

    @Bassam: if you are reading this, please consider banniing the other Kari.

    Kari: remember, whoever comes to you with the barzini meeting will be the traitor, LOL

    cheers all

  2. PhepheSa
    February 28, 2011

    @Barcastuff says there’s “Unclear communication about the appearance of a tree on next season’s shirt”

    Apparently these two reports were posted, i’m not sure where but it looks like the club’s official site:
    http://yfrog.com/h3xj0lxj
    http://yfrog.com/h8ajsozj

    I swear i’m gonna lose it if they put that tree on the shirt!

    • PhepheSa
      February 28, 2011

      And sorry Kari about this. At first we all that it was flattering but now it seems very creepy and dangerous. Hope it gets sorted soon cos it’s just wrong.

  3. soccermomof4
    February 28, 2011

    Kari, I’m so sorry this has happened to you. I don’t think you have to worry about staying off BFB because the mods would ban the impersonator at the first post. Bassam and Ade will have your back covered at the offside. Stay strong and don’t let this interfere with your studies.

  4. blitzen
    February 28, 2011

    Kari, I was going to make a joke about you having a split personality and making the posts yourself, but I can see that you are really creeped out and upset by all this, so have a *hug* instead.

    Bassam, once again you have proved yourself a true cule hero by helping Kari track down the culprits! 😀

    Now let’s get back to talking about the greatest team in the world, shall we?

    • PhepheSa
      February 28, 2011

      I think Bassam is a cule in disguise. Seriously, he’s too nice to us cules.

      • February 28, 2011

        You wouldn’t say that had you seen me doing the robot dance when we won the league in 06/07. You would have punched me. But I am a fan of football in general, and barca are a big part of that. Plus, I know when it comes to Barcelona and Madrid, you have to be extra delicate because this is the biggest sports rivalry in the milky way galaxy 😉

        • blitzen
          February 28, 2011

          He’s not a cule, but he is mes que un madridista. 😉

    • Miguel
      February 28, 2011

      i was gonna make that same joke. 🙁

  5. blitzen
    February 28, 2011

    Oh, and to any Gooner friends and/or trolls, my condolences. That was a terrible way to lose a game, much less a cup final. I was really hoping Arsenal could pull it off.

    • mei
      February 28, 2011

      ?
      Thats the perfect way to lose a game.
      If the other team wants it more , and actually performs better than you , makes the right tactical decision and you manage to lose even when you had some dubious refereeing decisions go on your side ..It was a final , but still.

      • blitzen
        February 28, 2011

        It is terrible to lose because of a stupid mistake like that. Losing because you are outplayed, fine. Losing because the other team wanted it more, fine. Losing because of an impromptu comedy routine? Shattering.

        • mei
          February 28, 2011

          But , blitzen it was all these things.
          Ok they were not outplayed , but one must look at the variables and make sense of every current situation.
          Arsenal cannot be outplayed by birmingham . The best play they could have against them , was something like what we watched last night.
          The other team wanted it more. The referees did not cost arsenal anything , and if they had an impact on the game , it was more threatening to the other team.
          And such comedy routines , as you perfectly put it , are common in arsenal games. Kind of part of their usual game. So no surprises there. They were actually fortunate not have conceded earlier , a not so fortunate shot that found the woodwork instead of the back of the net.
          It was not due to an unfortunate moment. Their defense was throughout the match not solid , and shaky defences give away chances , which they did , and commit silly mistakes , which they also did yesterday.

  6. mei
    February 28, 2011

    Wow. Kari you are taking this way too seriously.
    Its internet. Its anonymous. And when something like this happens, you should only be worried about what happens in this space .
    One thing internet does more easily than in real life , is being able to focus more on what someone says and not who actually said that.
    Your physical presence is not attacked , and cannot be attacked in any way like this ,and your online presence is safe with us.

  7. PhepheSa
    February 28, 2011

    Just saw the new training kit and i’ve just realised how sad this makes me feel. I thought when the time finally arrived i’d have gotten over it but i feel worse than when i first heard the news. It really is happening guys. It will never be the same, ever again.

    • NeverEver
      February 28, 2011

      It’s harder to take for me because it is so blasted ugly… the colors and design are just awful. They could have done a lot better if they were going to foist an unwanted sponsor on us……….

      • soccermomof4
        February 28, 2011

        After last year’s away kit that showed up as hot pink on my TV screen, I think we need a few years off from pink at this club. I don’t care if “pink is the new black”.

    • ak
      March 1, 2011

      hey, are there some stores that sell former player’s shirts still
      you know, of past legends
      could i get a shirt of pep guardiola??

  8. Sheena
    February 28, 2011

    Sorry to hear how bad this has gotten Kari. Hope it all gets sorted out soon. Best of luck.

    On another note, I had to hide my scream of horror when the official site posted the pictures of todays training session.
    I can’t believe QF is already there. I thought we’d atleast have until the end of this season to enjoy the last few moments of our sponsor free club 🙁

  9. February 28, 2011

    My usual zeal in acquiring every bit of club kit that I can has proved to be fortuitous this season, as I have purchased my last club clothing for some time. I just can’t support the ugliness, morally and design-wise.

  10. blitzen
    February 28, 2011

    BS.com spreading rumours that Mascherano is on the way out. According to this story, he:

    has so far failed to live up the expectations at the Catalan giants.

    The Argentina skipper seems to have lost the battle for a starting berth to Sergio Busquets, and could therefore be on his way out again at the end of the season.

    Rubbish! Failed to live up to expectations? I think he has been even better than many of us expected him to be! He didn’t come into the team expecting to be a starter, and as far as I see he has fit in and adapted to our game extremely well. I know he would like more playing time, but I don’t think he is ready to move on just yet.

    http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2011/02/28/2372515/juventus-keen-on-barcelonas-javier-mascherano-report

    • soccermomof4
      February 28, 2011

      sMasche has surprised me. I’m impressed. If it weren’t for us having Busi he would be staring and we would all feel very comfortable with him holding our midfield.

    • PhepheSa
      February 28, 2011

      I know it’s BS.com and i’m almost sure it’s not true, but if there’s one thing the Ibra circus taught me is that i mustn’t dismiss every rumour even if it comes from BS.com. So i’m praying this is just one of their stupid articles.

      I also think sMasch has played beyond our expectations and it’s just bad luck that we haven’t done well in the games he’s started so far.

      • barca96
        February 28, 2011

        sMasch has adapted incredibly fast! The writer obviously didn’t watch him play. Pep keeps on disappointing me by not playing sMasch.sigh.
        He never ever let us down for the past 7 months.

        The only thing that he needs to improve is his tendency to do a long pass. Just play it simple. This is not EPL. He loses a lot of balls this way. Otherwise, he would’ve been perfect.

  11. soccermomof4
    February 28, 2011

    Our answer about Leo and substitutions. Speaking as a parent, have you ever tried to call a kid in for dinner when they are busy playing? This Messi quote just appeared at totalBarca:

    “I have changed nothing, my style of play is still that of a child. I know that above all it is my job and that I should approach it in another way, but one must not lose sight of the fact that football is a game. It is imperative one plays to amuse oneself, to be happy. That is what children do and I do the same thing.”

    Read more: http://www.totalbarca.com/2011/news/quote-of-the-day-lionel-messi-3/#ixzz1FGbQKimX

  12. Eklavya
    February 28, 2011

    Um, no offense or anything but what’s the big deal?

    It’s not the first time trolls are going about impersonating people. I mean, all it takes is to Google image search for the same picture or else right click on your gravatar and just take it from there.

    I’m not trying to be mean or sound arrogant to Kari, I think the person doing this is really a dork and should be banned, but this *is* the Internet after all, and all the information you write/post is available for everyone to take. Some of my friends have had their Facebook profiles hacked and I can tell you that it’s much, much, worse than this.

    There’s no need to be so scared or creeped out. I guess I can understand what you feel; someone impersonated me as well, although it was not here on BFB and I wasn’t using my real name.

    The mods should just ban that stupid person and be done with it … and Kari you don’t need to “do a Jnice” 😉

  13. barca96
    February 28, 2011

    Im sorry to hear this Kari(original Kari of course).
    But I think you’re taking it quite too seriously. Obviously somebody is really bored to death and decided to use your name. I do think that s/he is going very far by using the same gravatar. What is s/he trying to achieve here? Make the Arsenal/Inter/EE fans hate you? Boo hoo. Ain’t nothing gonna change. With all due respect to Kari, if s/he really wanted to do some damage, s/he would’ve chosen Kxevin’s name or Isaiah.

    It’s no biggie girl. We obviously know who’s the real you.
    Im not going to say how we can know the real you cause the fake one might use it in the future but Im pretty sure the long time readers here know how to identify you.

    Bassam, where is the IP address located of the fake Kari? Can you check where it came from?
    And can you just email that person and ask him/her what she’s up to?

    ps. There is a person called Karrri on the offside. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was the fake Kari. Lifeless person!

    • ak
      March 1, 2011

      i don’t think the ip address is that easy to track
      i m pretty sure bassam is getting an ip address but that does not mean it is of whoever is impersonating kari since ip address is very easy to fake
      loads of freewares on the net allow you to mask your ip address and some web browsers have this facility built-in

  14. Roz
    February 28, 2011

    Sorry to hear about that Kari. The Impersanator is defintly a reader of this site. There was an identical post here and on the EE offside.

    Btw none of the players seem bothered about the QF logo. Do they just not care or are they blind.

    • barca96
      February 28, 2011

      I’ve never heard pro-footballers commenting on their respective clubs sense of fashion. I guess the’re too busy focusing on their games and counting their money 🙂

      If I was a player, I would definitely volunteer to design the shirts.Haha

    • blitzen
      February 28, 2011

      The players are professionals and have been wearing various logos for most of their lives. I suspect this is of less importance to them than it is to us.

      • Roz
        February 28, 2011

        Not Puyol or Xavi or Iniesta. The only one they wore was a UNICEF. Frankly I expected a bit more of a reaction especially from the Catalans.

        • blitzen
          February 28, 2011

          All three of them have shoe sponsors (with logos), the club itself has a Nike deal (with logo on every shirt), they all have various marketing deals. Trust me, they know all about logos. They may not be happy with this shirt deal, but I am pretty sure they are more philosophical about than we are.

  15. February 28, 2011

    Anybody know anything about this right back that we’re supposed to be hot on? He’s Brazilian, with the crazy name (even for Brazilian footballers) of Canus. Here’s a YouTube clip of him. The offense is apparently still a question mark, but by all scouting reports, he’s a dogged defender, with gobs of pace and aggression.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIKoMyJ3Kmg

    • Eklavya
      February 28, 2011

      What’s wrong with the name “Canus”? ❓

      And if he’s Brazilian then your 3 (now 4, apparently) Year Theory would still apply to him.

  16. K_legit
    February 28, 2011

    Ok I have to rant about this a bit..I have always felt that what is lacking about Arsenal is not the trophyless-ness..The trophyless-ness is a consequence of a lack of winning ability.
    As regards trophylessness
    Trophylessness is not the issue..Arsenal have simply not shown what it takes to win..which includes inferior mental-strength and mediocrity in play which is more problematic than merely not winning..Fact being the last 5 seasons Arsenal have not shown what it takes to win..This season may still turn out to be different mind..

    Even when Barcelona had their trophyless seasons they still were fighting till the bitter end and that’s what gave me heart even during the dark Gapsart years. It was the fact that Barça never gave up..In more recent times, specifically in 2006-07 till the last day we were close to winning the league..In 2007-08, we were just one goal away from the CL final..And that’s what i loved most about that Barcelona..the fact that they literally killed themselves in those two years winning nothing but persevered and are in this good moment..

    I will never lose faith in this Barcelona because they suffer and like to suffer which Arsenal quite simply, don’t.

    And Suffer is in Spanish context, not unlike brutal…To suffer is beautiful

    • February 28, 2011

      I disagree. Arsenal have caught bad breaks in droves, either from silly injuries, or plays such as yesterday. During our most recent trophyless years, the same things were happening to us …. a freak injury, a stupid play or just plain bad luck. It happens.

      Arsenal show absolutely no signs of giving up, and are still in the running for three trophies this season, the Carling Cup being the least important of the quartet. Not quite like the Copa Catalunya (which we blew off, right …. were we not trying?), but if a team had to pick one trophy of those four to jettison, Carling would be the one.

      The gaffe came from a player actually trying too hard. We had a similar event this season with Valdes and Pique, but we bailed out with a last-second intervention. They happen all the time.

      As for mental strength, the Prem is a hard-ass league. I don’t know if anyone watched that Stoke match, but if a team played us like that, the pile of dudgeon-laced outrage from the likes of EMD and Sport would be so high, you’d have to climb down from it to walk on the moon.

      And I am not defending Arsenal as much as the perception of them, one that could just as easily have been applied to us. We should never forget that we are in a glorious, glorious period right now. Peaks always lead to valleys, right?

      • K_legit
        February 28, 2011

        For six years Kxevin? in today’s world?
        I can buy two-three years of funk for a big team as Arsenal but six years?
        Fact is they (specifically Wenger) refuse to realise their problems.
        And as for yesterday let’s face facts Arsenal should have had their goalie sent off, and should have a penalty given against so its not like they were unlucky..

        Peaks will lead to Valleys but push comes to showe I’d back the hell out of Barcelona to find a way up without slipping into the Marian trench a-la Arsenal..

        And no fair you using your journalistic talents on me (a very less-gifted writer) with that ‘dudgeon-laced outrage’ paragraph..I marvel at your writing talent sir.

        and Kxevin Copa Catalunya is restricted to the clubs in Catalunya, and is just about as old as I am while the League Cup is 50 plus years old and played by every team in England so I am sorry to say it should be put at a higher pedestal and is no doubt prestigious even if some clubs don’t think so. Also, its a automatic entry to European competition after winning.

        Note: I am not a Arsenal hater..I am indifferent to them. I do like the way they play and all but I am not a fan of the fact that they compare their style with Barcelona. No way do they play like Barça.

        • February 28, 2011

          But it depends, K_legit. We had a Liga gap from 99 to ’04, a Copa gap from ’98 to ’08 and a Champions League gap from ’92-’05. I think that qualifies as today’s world, right?

          That time seemed endless, and people were saying the same things that people are now saying about Arsenal.

          I know the differences between Copa Catalunya and Carling Cup, but the analogy was used to define the value of the competition. A team would never say that it was happy to lose something, and certainly once you get to the final, you might as well win, but the concentration just isn’t the same. It can’t be.

          Don’t forget that we haven’t won much of anything yet this season, just the SuperCopa, which I think anyone would tell you that the club would love to count it among this season’s trophy haul, but be bummed if that turns out to be the only silver that this amazing group of players wins.

          It happens. To every club.

          • K_legit
            February 28, 2011

            I remember the trophy drought like it was yesterday..and also, remember that time was under Gaspart (and six months) with Mad Rad Antic..I prefer to think of those times as the ‘Barça’s on hallucinogens’ phase
            And 2003-04 is one of my fav seasons with us being almost bottom and finishing second and all..good times 😀

          • Tom Johnson
            February 28, 2011

            “a Champions League gap from ’92-’05”

            This is not a relevant argument. Due to the system (group+knockout stage) and quality of the other competitors involved, it is an extraordinary accomplishment to win it ‘just’ once let alone twice.

            There was no back-to-back winners.

            0 is the number of times Arsenal won the competition. Odds are it is going to stay that way for some time.

          • Tom Johnson
            February 28, 2011

            “a Champions League gap from ’92-’05”

            This is not a relevant argument. Due to the system (group+knockout stage) and quality of the other competitors involved, it is an extraordinary accomplishment to win it ‘just’ once let alone twice.

            There were no back-to-back winners.

            0 is the number of times Arsenal won the competition. Odds are it is going to stay that way for some time.

      • Tom Johnson
        February 28, 2011

        “Peaks always lead to valleys, right?”

        My focus is on how deep those valleys actually are. Not every group is the same.

        This one under Pep in particular has taken things to another level. Correct mind set (right priorities and lack of ego), good work ethic, rich talent pool backed by a huge revenue virtually guarantees a high level of play year in and year out.

        I don’t see a ‘Gaspart era’ repeating anytime soon. While suffering, I don’t recall our head coaches trumpeting themselves as “The Professor(s)” nor were they deeming the model flawless and looking elsewhere (referees) for an excuse. Not nearly as much.

        “As for mental strength, the Prem is a hard-ass league.”

        After a long fruitless period, the one that doesn’t look to be ending soon, don’t you think it is time for a strategy reassessment? Maybe the weapons one is going into war with are not really appropriate?

  17. K_legit
    February 28, 2011

    And the new training kit is butt-ugly

  18. jordi™
    February 28, 2011

    To play devils advocate, or voice of reason, which ever you fancy.It is possible theres more than one Kari on the internets.Theres other jordis ,thats why I trademarked mine :D.If someone steals your unique version, then That’s weird.

    • jordi™
      February 28, 2011

      Oh I didnt read the part about linking back here so there goes my theory..uhh. Nothing to see here, carry on.

  19. vicsoc
    February 28, 2011

    For the people who think it isn’t a big deal, I think you should reconsider. It is possible that years ago when the internet was still in its AOL online infancy you could say what you wanted on the internet and not have to worry about the implications. The fact is the internet is no longer anonymous, if it ever was. There are more and more tools and desire to track what people say and do on the internet these days. The fact is that your actions on the internet can come back to haunt you in “real life” if you aren’t careful, and Kari shouldn’t have to be concerned about being perceived incorrectly due to some impersonators.

    Let’s look at two examples from my own history. First: I was caught torrenting movies illegally in college. I received a strong reprimand from the school and was told if I did it again I would no longer be a student there. Second: when I was interviewing for medical school one of my interviewers looked me up on facebook while I was sitting in his office to make sure I didn’t have anything he would deem inappropriate on my page – his reason for this is that patients would do the same thing.

    While it takes a bit of stretching to fit these cases to Kari’s current situation, they do highlight how the internet isn’t a safe haven where there are no consequences anymore.

    For a really good example: Isaiah was offered a place to write about Barcelona over at ESPN.com because of the great work he has done here. Imagine if someone had stolen his identity prior to this happening, and hurt his reputation as an intelligent, interesting blogger, and he hadn’t been offered a place to write on ESPN. The fact is we don’t know what consequences this could have for Kari, but it could very well come back to haunt her if she just ignores it.

    • Jnice
      February 28, 2011

      For a really good example: Isaiah was offered a place to write about Barcelona over at ESPN.com because of the great work he has done here. Imagine if someone had stolen his identity prior to this happening, and hurt his reputation as an intelligent, interesting blogger, and he hadn’t been offered a place to write on ESPN. The fact is we don’t know what consequences this could have for Kari, but it could very well come back to haunt her if she just ignores it.

      Very true.

      Sorry about this, Kari.

    • Eklavya
      February 28, 2011

      “While it takes a bit of stretching to fit these cases to Kari’s current
      situation, they do highlight how the internet isn’t a safe haven
      where there are no consequences anymore.”

      But that’s exactly what I said:

      “this
      *is* the Internet after all, and all the information you write/post
      is available for everyone to take. ”

      Almost everyday I read articles in the newspaper where people are having to pay huge amounts of fine because either illegally downloading movies or else because they wrote a threat (sarcastly or not) to someone on a social networking site (mostly Facebook).

      Downloading movies is illegal. It is against the law. It involves money and copyright laws.
      Impersonating someone on a football blog is not illegal. It doesn’t involve money any big amounts of money. The comparaison is correct for the Internet overall but flawed for this particular case because you did something wrong and she did not.

      There have been people fined for spamming big websites for long periods of time.
      Checking out people’s Facebook profiles to detect any “malware” is also becoming more and more common is often used by bosses. Thieves and robbers have been caught because of (or rather, thanks to) Facebook.

      Isaiah’s example is great but valid only to people to are going pro on the internet. Everyday Internet becomes more and more part of our lives, it is up to us to judge how much we want to go into it.
      Casual Internet Trolls will only get bigger if we keep on giving attention to them.

      I’m not disagreeing with what you wrote but rather disagreeing with the line “those who think this isn’t a big deal should reconsider”, because we’re eventually coming down to the same point.

      • vicsoc
        February 28, 2011

        I disagree.

        In my mind, impersonating someone on the internet is no different from impersonating them at a job interview, or at a gala, or at a coffee shop… etc. etc.

        The fact of the matter is that in both cases you have the ability to damage that person’s reputation by impersonating them. The purpose of my examples was simply to show that the internet and “real life” are so intertwined that they can’t be considered separate realms anymore. This means that impersonating someone on the internet gives you the ability to damage their reputation in “real life”, and therefore it is a serious issue.

        • Eklavya
          February 28, 2011

          “In my mind, impersonating someone on the internet is no different from impersonating them at a job interview, or at a gala, or at a coffee shop… etc. etc.”

          But there is a difference. It’s not face to face anymore. The pure end result is be the same though: provoking the person’s anger and potentially damaging their reputation.

          Besides, impersonating isn’t necessarily malicious (which isn’t the case here on BFB). During the Egypt revolutions there was a new twitter account created by some “Hosni Mubarak” and his tweets were really sarcastic and said things like “I’m just going to hang onto power a few more months, and then when things calm down and you all go back to work I’ll cancel elections”.

          Let’s look our case. Who is this person impersonating Kari? In my opinion, it’s just some bored teenage kid who has nothing to do. Although he does have the power to damage someone’s reputation, so does everyone else.

          • February 28, 2011

            Here is an interesting thing. On Friday, i had an interview with a Dental school i applied to. During the interview, there was many questions about morals and ethics and stuff like that. They then pulled out my facebook profile just like what happened with Vicsoc. Not only that, but they did a google search of my name while i am there and they opened my Real Madrid offside page. Luckily enough, they also opened the article that i did on identity theft and asked me about some of the stuff in it. Not particularly why i wrote it, but what i thought about Identity theft. He then went and made a copy of that page and the comments for the board to take as note.

            So although the internet is not safe, it does leave a mark. Had i had the situation that Kari had, where someone is writing under my name, i might have been screwed. Screwed in a life altering decision. Yes this happens in the internet life, but if there is something to be done about it, then it should be. With this ever expanding world and the growth of social networks, and their involvement in everyday life, it is important to watch out for things like this.

          • blitzen
            February 28, 2011

            Well, that is a very sobering story, Bassam. It really makes you think, What kind of footprints have I left on the internet? People should also be aware that many companies these days utilize software that monitors employee’s computers, searching for inappropriate words or even tracking keystrokes.

            Hope your interview went well and that the board isn’t made up of Barcelona fans! 😉

        • Eklavya
          February 28, 2011

          Wow Bassam. You totally changed my view. Internet and real life really are much more intervined.

    • Nav
      February 28, 2011

      The internet is not anonymous and never will be – unless you’re behind 7 proxies or you’re using tor and your exit node is in Russia.

      This is why you should never use your real name on the internet. Always use different aliases across different websites. Do not ever provide contact details. Don’t put all your information in Facebook. Privacy is a thing long forgotten and you have to take steps to actively ensure your privacy is not being violated.

  20. jordi™
    February 28, 2011

    How did they get your GrAvatar.Thats even creepier.

    • February 28, 2011

      That’s easy. The image is linked to your e-mail. Anyone can use the same image, just linked to their e-mail. Likewise, having a screen name link back to this page is easy, by just entering the page URL with your comment. Voila.

      None of which negates the creep factor.

      • K_legit
        February 28, 2011

        So if someone knows my email they can hijack my gravatar?
        No way..this one (the gravatar I have now) means a lot to me…I’d hate to have anyone else sport it

        • blitzen
          February 28, 2011

          K_legit, they don’t even need your email. They can either right-click-save on your gravatar as it is showing on screen right now, or do that and then use an image-locator to bring up a larger version. I just now did that….no results. But I now have your gravatar on my computer. Don’t worry, I’ll delete it.

          • K_legit
            February 28, 2011

            I don’t think my gravatar would show up on a image-locator but the point is we use our gravatars for some important reason for us and it is just not right that someone out there can just become ‘me’ just for the heck of it and misuse/abuse it if that person so wished..Its one of the reasons I attached the ‘legit’ to my name..Some person used my alias too and started to say weird shit on this space but that was pre-registration.

          • Miguel
            February 28, 2011

            yeah, what is that, k? a bar of soap? my coffee table? i kid, i kid.

          • K_legit
            February 28, 2011

            It is an SEM image actually…of something I synthesized during my Masters about 6 months ago
            (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanning_electron_microscope)

    • Eklavya
      February 28, 2011

      What you do mean? All you have to do is Google search it and add it. I mean, I could create another Jordi right now with the same avatar if I wanted to…

  21. beeeef
    February 28, 2011

    I hadn’t realized things escalated to this degree. Somebody actually went through google images looking for your exact gravatar, to give their trolling an air of authenticity? Wow.

    Hope whoever he/she is stops the nonsense.

  22. Miguel
    February 28, 2011

    flattery is one thing, that’s psychosis. still, how come nobody impersonated me? 🙁 kari, really? 😉

  23. February 28, 2011

    This is a serious issue. As vicsoc has pointed out – people’s on-line reputations do matter and have impact in the “real world.”

    On top of that, it is just creepy and uncomfortable.

    Now some people may be ok with this and chalk it up to “this is the internet and things like this happen.”

    But to me that just speaks to how little people have come to expect from technology and how much we’re becoming acculturated to redefining our own normative standards for what’s acceptable by the security loop holes of the technology that surrounds us.

    If Gravatar or Facebook or whoever wanted to make a more enriched user experience with enhanced privacy and security they could. They just don’t feel the need to do so at the cost they would incur. Instead, it’s individuals who are just told that they need to live with the inconvenience and accept it.

    Finally, this is not only an issue for Kari, it’s potentially a major problem for BFB as a whole. Kari is a writer for the blog and has been doing a great job. I don’t think it’s an accident that she is being impersonated even more intensely now.

    Nor is it an accident that the impersonation involves Real Madrid and Arsenal blogs – two the other clubs that Barcelona supporters have had the most contentious relationships with in the recent past.

    If “Kari” is trolling on those sites, it stands to reason some of the people reading those sites will feel justified in responding by trolling the site “Kari” writes for.

    All this is going to lead to is BFB itself having even more problems with nonsensical, angry comments mucking up the site.

  24. blitzen
    February 28, 2011

    Alves: “Can I imagine a Barcelona without Alves? What I can’t imagine is an Alves without Barcelona.”

    Awwww! Sign your contract, Dani!

  25. Miguel
    February 28, 2011

    “Sevilla Hoping For Better Days Ahead
    It takes something fairly dramatic to knock either Real Madrid or Barcelona from the front pages of Spain’s sports papers, who spend most of their days moaning about referees having it in for their respective teams, boasting that Messi/Ronaldo is the greatest, and flogging club merchandise such as the Real Madrid rug, currently on offer this week in one particular outlet. With the Bernabeu club having dropped two more points away from home at Deportivo on Saturday night, the official rug probably isn’t of the travel variety.

    However, on Friday, AS broke from the normal routine and gave up their lead pages to announce the official end of the beginning of Sevilla’s decline – a painful process that has been running for a good season or two now.”
    http://www.football365.com/spanish_thing/0,17033,9405,00.html

    • K_legit
      February 28, 2011

      It was a shitty thing to do..that head-tapping thing..that’s not nice

      • Miguel
        February 28, 2011

        right? the guy’s already gone through enough. jesus.

        arsenal can’t wait for vermaelen to get back.

  26. Josep
    February 28, 2011

    Hello, Andrey! I have a question for you: what will a ball look like at the WC 2018?
    AA: It will be round. That’s for sure. There is nothing more I can say.:))

  27. Helge
    February 28, 2011

    Damn, that really sucks.

    There are still some fake-Kari comments @ the offside.
    I wonder if Bassam and co. can only ban eMail accounts, or the IP of its internet access.

    Maybe it’s a little bit of a consolation when I tell you that the people that got to know you here on BFB see immediately that it’s not been the real Kari posting on the offside.
    But unfortunately the people who don’t know you might get a very wrong image…

    I hope this problem will be solved soon.

  28. February 28, 2011

    Well, we have one Kari down. On the Real Madrid offside, we avoid banning people unless the situation is excessive. 2 People were banned by Corey over the last 3 years. I have been at the offside for a year, but havent banned anyone. So yes, just right now, i am no longer a banning virgin! There are three Kari’s floating around, aside from the real one. Each was warned, and if they persist, they will get banned. One is banned already, so we will see what happens in the coming days.

    Best of luck to Kari, as i mentioned above, this is serious. Yes its the internet, but if someone can do something about it, then he should.

    • soccermomof4
      February 28, 2011

      UR awesome, Bassam! Thanks!

    • Eklavya
      February 28, 2011

      Well done. But does banning by IP address really ban the person *forever*? In my knowledge the IP can be changed, one only has to reset the modem/router, right?

      Maybe some of the computer geeks knowledgeable people could tell me.

  29. soccermomof4
    February 28, 2011

    @ Kxevin—I was just checking out the situation at the Arsenal offside. Please tell me that you were commenting over there and the situation hasn’t gotten worse. Someone, hopefully you, is using your name but not your avatar.

    • Eklavya
      February 28, 2011

      Oh, I think that’s Kxevin all right. After 2.5 years, I think I can recognize his writing style.

      • soccermomof4
        February 28, 2011

        I was thinking that too, only Kxevin’s gravatar wasn’t there. I know that the very few times I’ve posted at an offside site my gravatar shows up automatically (I usually just lurk, like I did for several months here).

  30. Whatever
    February 28, 2011

    Is anyone going to Barcelona – Espanyol in May? I was planning on going to Barcelona alone, but would like to go to the game with some fellow cules.

  31. Tom Johnson
    February 28, 2011

    @ Viscoc

    It would be foolish to think of internet as being a safe heaven or a place where no consequences can stem from. In this particular example though, I would be careful not to overreact.

    Kari is obviously upset with this stalker like experience. Nobody should really blame her for that (can’t stress this hard enough). Young females are a group more sensitive to the issue. Rightfully so.

    “This means that impersonating someone on the internet gives you the ability to damage their reputation in “real life”, and therefore it is a serious issue.”

    1. Let me point out that ‘Kari’ is neither her first or last name. Now, I am no overweight sun deprived IT guy posting from parents’ basement but I fail to see how the one would be able to establish the connection without a further substantial detail available?

    2. What is the reputation we are talking about here? An opinion on who Pep should subbed in, does the team need Fabregas or why Bojan looks more happy on the bench than the field? Hardly important things or a tool to display racial or any kind of bias.

    @ Bassam

    While I don’t doubt that is exactly how the interview process went down, was that a private or a state school you applied to?

    Based on my experience, it not being a company with high security detail and pending on how much of the tuition cost you are to bear, I find the process excessive to say the least.

    • Nav
      February 28, 2011

      It’s very common for most places of employment these days to do a quick google and facebook search on a person to establish that they are not some crazy KKK zealot (or whatever). Having said that, I would imagine most people understand that you have a life outside of work and will likely respect that.

      It sucks that Kari is going through this – but the level at which it’s happening is only a detail. It’s very scary to know that someone is impersonating you or has some personal detail. And hopefully this person will not go any further than some football comments.

    • February 28, 2011

      It was a Private University that looked at the blog. Loma Linda to be exact.

      I also had an interview with a public university, and they took a look at my facebook Page.

      • Nav
        February 28, 2011

        And so will most future employers. Fact of life now. Don’t have stupid shit about yourself up on google and facebook and you should be all good. Hah.

  32. Tom Johnson
    February 28, 2011

    In addition,

    3. Push comes to shove, there are always ways of proving not to be the author of such post. After a quick personality assessment, the authority in question (ex. an interviewer) is likely to take such claim seriously.

    • Pyro
      February 28, 2011

      Let’s just put it this way. Would like that happening to you? And I always believe that it is better so be safe than sorry. Bassam’s experience at the interview put everything into perspective. What if this impersonator tried to ruin Kari’s reputation by saying awful things and at an interview the real Kari has to pay the broken dishes like my mother would say. It just isn’t fair. I think she is correct by treating this whole matter seriously.

  33. Kariyanna
    February 28, 2011

    Ok to set this record straight my name is Kariyanna, Kari I use for short. I am a Barca fan since 98 and only now have I discovered blogs like this one, the offside and OleOle. I only discovered this site last week when the original Kari from this site responded to a comment I made on the Arsenal offside, saying that I was not her which is understandable. I brushed it off in saying there is another Barca Kari who is a Barca fan and said people can tell the difference because you have a picture and I don’t.

    I only just now realized the drama that was going when I visited the madrid offside and read Bassam article and found myself banned. This lead me to come here and finally get registered to clear the air.

    Over the weekend I noticed this Karri replying to my comment on the offside and assumed it was you since you guys had both the same picture and same link to this site. I apologize for any inconvenience you may have suffered as I to have suffered with unnecessary bans. You can confirm that I am me by checking the my email I always use on this comment with my past comments. Once again sorry for the misunderstanding. I will from now on post under my full name Kariyanna to stop this mishap.

    • February 28, 2011

      My brain officially hurts.

      Thanks for setting the record straight. I’ll post your reply in our team e-mail, to set that record straight, as well.

      And welcome to BFB!

    • February 28, 2011

      I was waiting for this to happen after I checked the email that was posting. There are three kari’s, other than the one posting here.

      I don’t agree that you were unaware of what was happening. And had you read the post I had up, it was about this specific subject. There are two things: 1) you read it and decided to just comment and see what happens or 2) you didn’t read the post abd only wanted to troll the site to draw attention and attack mourinho. So which one was it? Because they are both worse than each other.

      When I leave a comment on another teams website, I do that respectfully and without trying to draw controversy. If you want to be respected like the original Kari is, then the comments you were making were not going to get you there. They were going to get you banned for being disruptive.

      I am very tolerant when it comes to posters. Hence why this was the first time I ban someone. In over a year. You are new to blogging, but I will tell you this, the effort it takes to run a blog is really a lot. MOre than the two minutes it took for you to comment. Kxevin, Kari and the other bloggers here know what I’m talking about. And let’s not forget, this is a non paying job/hobby. So when you reduce my 3000 word article to a comment saying : mourinho sucks. Then you will not get respected because it’s showing no respect to the author.

      Anyways, I will remove the ban, on the conditions that I put above. You are more than welcome to comment, but keep in mind what I said above. Not for my sake, but rather for your own sake. Let’s not forget, there are still two that are impersonating on purpose. Hence why Kari said in the post that she has two emails and names. Yours was not one of them anyways

      • February 28, 2011

        Sorry for disjointed comment. I posted it off my phone and, as kxevin mentioned, this makes the brain hurt

        • Kariyanna
          February 28, 2011

          The last comment I made on your blog was “Glad to see MouMou is being backlashed on for his calendar comment from all sectors of the Spanish Media. Not only from Barca president RoSell but from also inside his own club and biased media” which was basically generalizing the theme you guys where discussing. I never or would ever lower myself to a comment as “Mou Suck” to a Madrid public no less. Idk where you live but here in America its innocent before proven guilty not the other way around.

          I was offline for the bit of a week and missed all articles and is only now backtracking to see said accused comments. Being a lurker as myself I only posted a handful of comments on the offside varying from Arsenal,Madrid, and Juve.

          By the way have you ever stopped to consider that maybe its a screwed up Madrid fan doing all these impersonations since if I recall it all started over on your blog? Not accusing but just a thought to consider.

          • February 28, 2011

            My brain still hurts. So yes, we have one cule Kariyanna (Kari2?) in the house, but two others still running around out there, as Bassam notes …. or 3 …. or 12. Who the hell knows, and who the hell knows what motivates some people to do stuff such as this?

            I guess the beauty of being Kxevin is that not many people can impersonate being a pompous, biased, wordy jackass. So I have that going for me. 😀

            And again, welcome Kari2 (yes, I have dubbed thee thus), and don’t be a stranger. Dig?

          • February 28, 2011

            Kariyanna, care to mention the in what context you mentioned that? You mentioned that on game review, in which the subject you bring up was not even under discussion.

            The time you commented before, your comment was:

            “He always has to say something because he can’t admit his failures. The whole world knows how Mourinho is…he never recognize….”

            Once again, just there to build controversy. Anyways, im working on removing the ban. As Kxevin said, you are more than welcome to comment at the Real Madrid offside, but do not just comment for the sake of paying attention. You go back to a Barcelona or Arsenal blog after, but i have to sit there and deal with the reactions of people.

            As for someone from my blog doing this, then this is what i have to say: I run a blog, not a tribe or a cult. I can’t control who comments and what they do. The only control is deleting them. I am the one helping Kari in this task of getting rid of the person that is impersonating her, so its not like I’m defending my “people”. If it is one of them, then they shall be banned.

            Once again, thanks for clearing it up, and welcome, to both sites.

      • Lev
        February 28, 2011

        Yeah Kariyanna if you wanna say Mourinho sucks, do so at BfB! :p

        seriously though I don’t understand why one would go on EE’s website to tell them their coach sucks…It would be like them coming here and write Pep sucks…what’s the point?

        • Kariyanna
          February 28, 2011

          So Bassam let me get this straight when others discuss MouMou and his failings after that draw its okay but if a Barca fan criticizes him its bloody murder? The discussions before my comment in that tread was criticizing Mou current record vs Pelle’s. How is that any different from my comment regarding that days’ news talking about Mou?

          Just look at what you guys are talking bout now? Mou’s continuous complaining and moaning once again just like my comment “He always has to say something because he can’t admit his failures. The whole world knows how Mourinho is…he never recognizes….” which was right after the Lyon draw.

          Those comments are basically pointing out the flaws in your coach only a few of you recognize and discuss.

          It seems to me that you are preventing criticism on your board from outsiders because you know the reaction your crowd will give. As arguments are the norm with them you try to filter what gets true and rightly so I agree. Maybe I should have worded those above comments a bit more nicer and give reasoning to my statement as I will do from now on. I tend to be short and to the point so maybe it seem trolling to you but if I was a troll I would’ve went the Puyol( troll Puyol you guys have) way instead of going through all that trouble of impersonating someone to say nonsense.

          • February 28, 2011

            “Maybe I should have worded those above comments a bit more nicer and give reasoning to my statement as I will do from now on.”

            Exactly! Here is the thing, when it comes to Barcelona and Real Madrid, its a delicate manner. Even if someone was not trolling, he could leave a blunt comment and bam, it stirs up controversy. Once again, i appreciate that you don’t do what the “puyol” dude is doing, and i always say that comments from other fans are welcome. But as you said, when you say something so bluntly and without explanation, it looks like you are just trolling.

            I am trying to remove the ban, but its now in the hands of the Offside administrator. I don’t know if its removed, but feel free to pass by anytime.

    • Kariyanna
      February 28, 2011

      Wow a Soccerdad now!?!? Same pic and everything surly not a coincidence

    • soccermomof4
      February 28, 2011

      Oh great, You’re probably next, Jnice as you went over there to support Kari too!

      I’m staying here from now on, you’ll be able to tell it’s me I hope.

      @ Bassam, I won’t be posting on any offside site as of now so if you see me…well it’s not me.

      • February 28, 2011

        Oh wow! This is getting childish!

        I will contact the Offside administrator to get a handle on this. It has gone too far.

        For now, i would appreciate if you guys keep a low on this as to not encourage and fuel their childishness. I will update everyone on what going on as soon as i get updates.

        If you register to disqus, you can have anyone with the same name as you register, so i would recommend you do that before some of them do.

        I am working on opening my own site, but the IT work is a burden as i suck in computers. I was actually going to contact Kxevin to get any advice on the matter.

          • soccermomof4
            February 28, 2011

            I mean thanks—you’ll know it’s the real me by my typos 🙂

        • Kariyanna
          February 28, 2011

          Bassam I love you work so I would certainly encourage you in your decision of making your own site. Right now all I can do is read your last article about the MouMou/Chendo relationship as this piece of news is all brand new to me.

      • February 28, 2011

        I replied to you question on the offside with all the details you need to know about Spain and its CL spots.

        And as i said in the post below, i would urge you to register with Disqus so as to stake your claim for the name.

        • soccermomof4
          February 28, 2011

          saw your reply thanks- what is involved in the registration, what info do I have to give—especially now that soccerDAD is posting here(see below)

          • February 28, 2011

            The info that you give will only be seen by the moderator, not anyone else! It signs you up so that if anyone wants to sign up, they cant have your name. I sent an email the the Offside Moderator and the Barcelona Offside Moderator and they both replied right now saying they will take care of the matter.

            Sorry for the inconvenience.

          • soccermomof4
            February 28, 2011

            apparently my username already exists….hmmmm…I’m gonna go with I tried to sign up at one time and screwed up because this is giving me a headache.

  34. Cule
    February 28, 2011

    Kari, I fully understand why you are upset. But sorry to say, this article is likely to encourage your imposter to continue what he/she’s doing. Whoever it is who’s stealing your identity is likely doing it to upset you. You are really popular on this blog, and recently became a writer. Someone is jealous. That’s just an assumption of course but that’s what I think is going on.

    Think of it this way: Whoever is impersonating you can only be trying to hurt you, so showing how bothered you are by it is likely to fuel him/her. I already see it. Jose pointed out someone is impersonating soccermomof4, seems to me like the imposter is thinking “Hey it’s working, next…”

  35. Kariyanna
    February 28, 2011

    I feel left out 🙁

    How do you get a picture to your name?

    • soccerdadof4
      February 28, 2011

      I believe it’s a website called *www.gravatar.com
      Simply create an account and add a link, preferably through google images (it’s how I got mine!) or you can even use an existing image saved on your hard drive.
      Btw did you guys see the new training kits? Absolutely repulsive in my opinion.

      • soccermomof4
        February 28, 2011

        kindly get your own gravatar and a little originality

        • soccerdadof4
          February 28, 2011

          Appologies for that SoMa. This better?

          • Jnice
            February 28, 2011

            You said SoMa, so I would imagine you’re a regular reader of this blog, maybe even a registered member with another name.

            Anyway…

          • soccerdadof4
            February 28, 2011

            Oh its a cache (cookie problem) the new one should be up in no time.
            Sorry again!

          • soccerdadof4
            February 28, 2011

            Apologies yet again! SoMa4. I’m not getting off to a good start here am I?

          • soccermomof4
            February 28, 2011

            for starters-you could have picked a less similar handle

      • BarcaGirl_Indo
        March 1, 2011

        dear God…

        now we have Mom and Dad in BFB…

  36. blitzen
    February 28, 2011

    *blink*

    I call shenanigans! On everyone!

    Can we talk about football now?

    • Jnice
      February 28, 2011

      How about… I’m nervous (as usual) about the Valencia game on Wednesday?

      We beat them at home 2-1, although it could have been more (had Villa taken his chances), but that first half we were completely outplayed and outpossessed for most of the half.

      I know they are going to come out with the same pressure or maybe even more than last time.

      It’s going to be tough.

      • soccermomof4
        February 28, 2011

        OK – I’ll try some football.

        I’m hoping that a Sunday game, played in the rain, against a tough Bilbao will have tired Valencia out a little. Maybe we’ll see a sMasche/ Busi combo.

        • Kariyanna
          February 28, 2011

          I believe, if I read correctly they are missing quite some players I think. Aduriz is injured right? But I honestly feel more confident of this game than say the game against Mallorca weekend gone.

          The nervousness I feel is if Xavi starts or not and how far has Puyol injury progressed ditto with Valdes. Arsenal is only a week away now you know!!!

      • blitzen
        February 28, 2011

        It will be tough, indeed. We have not beaten Valencia at their home under Guardiola. I think we are in good shape going in, though. Xavi will be back, as will Alves. Villa is in good form right now.

        My main worry is Pedro, as he really looked off during the last game. I wouldn’t mind him being rested in favour of Afellay or even Bobo. Or Jeffren might even get to play as he is apparently fit now.

        • Jnice
          February 28, 2011

          I think Pedro will still start because his work rate will really be needed in a tough away game like this. At least I still want him to start. I don’t think we can toss Afellay into a match like this and Bojan is Bojan. Jeffren will probably won’t make the bench.

          I feel better knowing Xavi is back and taking into account Villa’s form like you said, but our players couldn’t deal with the way they pressed us in the 1st half at our house. I expect much of the same intensity this time around. I hope Pep has a plan to deal with it sooner on Wednesday.

          • blitzen
            February 28, 2011

            But remember that Villa had only been playing with Barca for less than two months the last time we played them and was still settling in. We were just still just recovering from World Cup fatigue. Now we are a complete team, back on a roll after the Hlebuary blues, with one of the most deadly attacking tridents the world has ever seen.

          • Miguel
            February 28, 2011

            which is why i thought pedro was gonna get some rest against mallorca. do you think they double up on the left side like they did w/mathieu & alba again or do they go all out since that didn’t work & they have a healthy mata?

          • Jnice
            February 28, 2011

            Fair points, blitzen.

            I don.t know Miguel, you can never be too sure with Unai.

        • Sheena
          March 1, 2011

          Well I think that Pedro shakes off his funk by playing as much as possible (but that’s just my opinion).

          I expect the strongest available lineup, because I’m fully convinced that Pep will rest a number of key starters for the Zaragoza game.

    • Kariyanna
      February 28, 2011

      Umm did you see the Milan-Napoli game? I would’ve never expected a scoreline as such since Napoli basically gave up Europa League to win this game.

      The state of Seria A surly needs to be looked at from their Federation IMO.

      • Jnice
        February 28, 2011

        Why does it need to be looked at?

        Napoli simply didn’t show up on the day. Couldn’t string together 3 passes in a row and Pato and co. came out more motivated in the 2nd half.

        I don’t really see the problem.

        • Miguel
          February 28, 2011

          pato was gangster. set up a goal & scored a lovely one.

        • Kariyanna
          February 28, 2011

          What I mean is that people complain of the state of La Liga when other leagues need to be viewed upon more closely. If a team like Milan( who I rate very lowly) are leading then yes, they need to be looked at.

  37. beeeef
    February 28, 2011

    Whoa, crazy indeed. I wonder if the first “kari” I saw at the Arsenal offsides was you? Your post was in response to the recent Toral transfer if I remember correctly.

    • beeeef
      February 28, 2011

      Eh, never mind.

      I’m worried about the Valencia game on Wednesday too. Although at the same time, we could end up mauling them 3-0.

      Sorry if this has been discussed already, but anybody else watch Milan vs. Napoli today? Pato was impressive, best performance I’ve seen from him in 90 minutes for Milan. Napoli on the other hand were collectively horrible. That was disappointing, but maybe worth the Pato show.

    • Kariyanna
      February 28, 2011

      Yeah that was me giving my 2 cents on that matter since they where bashing the way we got Messi,Puyol,Pedro etc. and comparing them to the Toral case.

  38. blitzen
    February 28, 2011

    From Dani’s press conference today:

    “We’ll never complain about anything, whether we draw or lose, excuses don’t wash here.”

    😀

    • Jnice
      February 28, 2011

      Regarding his nice statements about staying here, etc…. just sign the damn contract already. All of this talk with no action. He’s saying he wants to get it over with so he can “relax”, the ball is in your court, Dani.

    • soccermomof4
      February 28, 2011

      He also said he can’t imagine Alves w/out Barca—sign the contract, Dani!

  39. Miguel
    February 28, 2011

    weird. i’m for absurd shit but this is something else. i leave you guys alone for like 10 hours & this is what happens?

    did you guys see the video of that poor owl get kicked?

  40. soccermomof4
    February 28, 2011

    Barca offside has removed kari and soccerdad’s posts! As for me I’m going to bed kids. Keep talking soccer!

  41. vicsoc
    February 28, 2011

    This thread is like an episode of the X-files.

  42. Miguel
    February 28, 2011

    ya know, we didn’t have pedro in the starting line-up last time around.
    http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/10/19/barcelona-2-1-valencia-tactics/

    valencia hasn’t lost since november. couple that w/xavi coming back from injury, villa debuting at the mestalla, & valencia coming back to win v athletic, i’m worried too. joaquin has been really good lately. he scored a doblete last week, i believe.

  43. Pyro
    February 28, 2011

    I potentially see the ugliness of that logo ruining our apparel sales.
    It just doesn’t seem right. The UNICEF logo just seemed so at home. Bah, 🙁

  44. February 28, 2011

    To go into more Football related manners, and as i would like to hear the opinion of Barca fans on this. What do you think of the recent demotion of Italy to 3 spots and Germany being raised to 4. Soccermom raised the question over at my site and asked if Spain are in danger of this. Here is what i replied:

    Right now, England are first in the rankings with 82.928 points. Spain are second with 77.329. Germany moved into third with 68.103 and italy are in fourth (which means 3 CL spots) at 59.981.

    It should be noted that these numbers get affected by not only the CL, but the europa league as well. Hence why last year, when Atletico won the Europa league, spain got around 17 added to their total.

    How it works is that nations get points according to their teams performance in competition they are competing in. So yes, each win matters. Not just winning the competition. Last year, we had around 17 points, England around 17 points and Italy had 18 points, even though they won the CL. As long as Barcelona and Real Madrid rock the group stages (getting most wins), we are good for a good sum of years.

    Germany has been great in cup competitions lately, which has made them grow in numbers.

    here is a link if you want to see the overview:

    http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2011.html

    Spain has been doing well in europa league (thanks to Sevilla and Atletico). I dont think there is a chance of us dropping below Germany, but man, if Dortmund manage to hold on to their stars and continue at this pace, we have another Beyern leverkusen (they reached the final against us in 2002 and were a power house for 3 years back then). I have a soft spot for Dortmund and specifically for Nuri Sahin!

    • Diego
      February 28, 2011

      Even if somehow someway in someone’s imagination we dropped behind Germany we’ll still have 4 CL and 3 Europa Liga, We’re only in Danger if we fall behind Italy or France which I think (Thanks to Barca, EE, Sevilla, Atletico, Valencia) is highly unlikely.

      • February 28, 2011

        I have doubts about Valencia going through. They have a tough schedule before their game in Germany. They have better quality than the german team, but you cant but help and feel that their overworked and shallow shallow squad might crumble under pressure.

  45. Diego
    February 28, 2011

    soccerdadof4 ?? Really ?!

    I’ll guess we’ll see Jmean, Aklavya, BarcaGuy_Indo, Innerspacedout.

    I feel sorry for him, If only he had used this energy for something useful.

    • barca96
      February 28, 2011

      Miguel-Michael.
      Beeef-chicken.
      K_Legit-K_Illegal?

      What else guys?
      Something to cheer us up.

    • BarcaGirl_Indo
      March 1, 2011

      Jmean… LMAO…

      and maybe, Dora to accompany Diego… 😛

  46. BA
    March 1, 2011

    that hideous pink script on our new training uniforms, seen in the training shots from today on the main site, makes me want to vomit.

    i’d love to know Hristo Stoichkov’s thoughts on that whole situation, incidentally.

  47. BarcaGirl_Indo
    March 1, 2011

    since we haven’t beaten Valencia at their home under Guardiola,
    against Valencia in Mestalla will be a very tough game,
    thank God for 7 points gap atm…

    I’m worry about our Captain Puyol,
    is he gonna make it for Arsenal clash?
    Xavi and Jeffren are back, but still missing our Captain Caveman… 🙁

    • barca96
      March 1, 2011

      Things are different now.
      We are stronger than ever. Even better than the quadruple season.

      • BarcaGirl_Indo
        March 1, 2011

        yes, but Barça is not invincible for sure… 🙂

        the next five road domestic games :

        Valencia – Sevilla – Villareal – EE (Liga) – EE (CdR final)

        dayyum!

  48. K_legit
    March 1, 2011

    yaay welcome all the doppelgänger people 😀

  49. OSBAG
    March 1, 2011

    good morn all. on topic i should tell kari to follow mei’s advice above .’Its internet. Its anonymous. And when something like this happens, you should only be worried about what happens in this space .
    One thing internet does more easily than in real life , is being able to focus more on what someone says and not who actually said that.
    Your physical presence is not attacked , and cannot be attacked in any
    way like this ,and your online presence is safe with us.”

    off topic, it was nice to see my fellow country ,man score the winning goal in the league cup final. wonderful result for me as i wouldnt want arsenal charging into the cl return leg full of confidence. but then it could also backfire as they might be more determined to make sometrhing out of it.
    though i really feel for them having not lifted silverware all these years.

    • barca96
      March 1, 2011

      It’s not as simple as that although this case is different.
      If Kari used her real name, it could be used against her at some point later in her life like when an employer does a quick scan or her potential bf. Just try googling your real name and see what the results are. Im sure a lot of people here have tried googling their names before :p
      However, Kari is not using her real name so it is not that serious.

      • mei
        March 1, 2011

        But she didnt. And she shouldnt. You are anonymous , unless you dont really want to or want to create an identity around your name , which is not what internet is about. Should you do it though, there are ways to protect it.
        There are ways of protecting your privacy , as soon as you are up for it. Care enough to learn the medium , and its setbacks.
        Trust me on this one , I was a cs student.
        People get the idea that there is somebody out to get them when dealing with whatever in the internet , just because of its worldwide reach. But its pretty much the opposite. Odds are you will be attacked near your neighborhood rather than surfing your favorite websites. Odds are that you will be mugged near your ATM machine rather than someone hijacking your credit card account.
        People get too protective about ideals that are not theirs to begin with. So if I get this straight , someone is not allowed to have the same nickname , or since it was proven , a real name the same as a commenter here , and post on a rivals website for whatever reason?
        This is absurd. It sounds like a copyright claim , and copyright stuff have gone mental in our times.

  50. jnelson
    March 1, 2011

    I for one never imagined copycats being an issue with these blogs. I guess trolling is out of style for the moment.

    As for Valencia, I think this is the year. This year we finally rolled through Bilbao, patetico, and Pamplona with max points, so why not add Valencia to the list? I’m feeling confident. We will miss Valdes and Puyol again, but Xavi coming back is a huge plus. Last year we were missing a few important people, right?

  51. hammeronmessi
    March 1, 2011

    hi 2 all.

    posted in 10,000bc (before the time of registration),but then become as involved as CT(always read the posts and comments,but never participated).

    my sympathy is with u,kari,although i think u have encouraged the person 2 imitate u more.(never encouraged the trolls).

    @eklavya,SoMo4,in a previous post,u asked if there are any other engineers?i m for one,a mechanical engineer.

    @kxevin,what a brilliant objective blogger u r.(though i m not in agreement with u for all of ur KRS).about the”every peak has its valley”?i think in case of arsenal the valley is equivalent to an abyss.(unlike our gaspert years,where we signed every maradona we can just win ).in this case i m in agreement with “andre the giant”.

    and why is everybody so fed up with QF?its not beautiful,i agree,but they r giving 124M for 5 years(my only grunt that roSELL cant squeeze out more juices from QF).maybe we should all blame the nike designers instead of roSELL and QF.

    i think i will be hectored

    • barca96
      March 1, 2011

      welcome.

      you sound like a seasoned lurker :p
      you know all the in’s and out’s.

      ps. can you not abbreviate so many words 🙂

      • hammeronmessi
        March 1, 2011

        yeah i m.

        ok i will try to elaborate next time.

        can you please let me know which abbreviated words you dont understand?

        by the way,(my memory is not good enough,may be i ask the same question way before),are you supporting barca from 96?

        adios

        • hammeronmessi
          March 1, 2011

          and thanks for welcoming me.(is it with a big hug or a simple welcome?)

          thank you.muchos garacias

  52. hammeronmessi
    March 1, 2011

    thanx jose,i m aware of the topic.

    my line of thought is since it is a football related blog,the posts and comments should mostly concentrated on a football related topic.although i agree with bassam and vicsoc about what would happen,i still think that karis re action just a bit over the top.(its not like the impostor is damaging her reputation with foul mouth and language,as kari has mentioned).

    rember lukes take on quatar hosting the WC.now thats a fascinating and thoughtful non football related topic.but identity theft.not my cup of tea(although i understand kari and her concern)

    • hammeronmessi
      March 1, 2011

      that gif is simply awesome.thanx jose

    • hammeronmessi
      March 1, 2011

      why?

      and m i wrong that as soon as it is aired,u r here to post the links?(although i m now registered fbtz,its a pleasure to get the links from you)

      u r like zeus in the field of downloads

      • Jnice
        March 1, 2011

        Several different talking points. Barça winning without 4 key players, our upcoming match against Valencia, Mourinho and his recent complaints, etc.

        I post the links after they are uploaded on fbtz, which is probably 30 minutes to an hour after it’s aired in the UK.

        I don’t upload the show or anything, so I’m nothing special. I’m just good at finding links. That praise should be reserved for the cappers like Pakman and co, but thanks.

        • hammeronmessi
          March 1, 2011

          without you i may never know about fbtz or pakman.it is you who introduced me to them.so to me u r special in this regard,and u always credit pakman at the end of your post,so i know u dont upload them,just find them.

          Is it true after the arsenal game u vowed to return only after the 2nd leg.(i didnt get that as it took 3 days for me to get over that loss,and i cut myself from the internet).

          • Jnice
            March 1, 2011

            “Vowed to return”

            Hahaha, I feel like some sort of warrior waiting to avenge the death of his comrade.

            I don’t know if I specifically said after the 2nd leg. I just needed a few days to get over my disappointment. I’m real emotional when it comes to Barça (as many of you probably are), so a loss like that can affect me for weeks.

            It’s all good now. I spoke with my dad, who is a big Arsenal fan, and he still acknowledged we were and are the better team, so that kind of made me feel better.

            Welcome and thanks again for the compliments.

  53. hammeronmessi
    March 1, 2011

    may i know who is the person from calcutta,india?checked the readers online application.its a joy to find a barca fan in my own region.

    • soccermomof4
      March 1, 2011

      checked the readers online application

      huh?!?

      • hammeronmessi
        March 1, 2011

        designer of the BFB GIRLS V2.0 ,u dont know bout this application?shame shame.

        Btw,is your daughter a RB Like dani show me the money alves or a LB like ashley likes to shoot cole?

      • blitzen
        March 1, 2011

        SoMa4, look on the menu on the right side where it says Readers Online, and click on the button showing a number. It takes you to a page where you can see where the people who visit this site are located.

  54. Eklavya
    March 1, 2011

    What. The. Fudge.

    This is the craziest comments we’ve ever had. This is some movie script for the next Christopher Nolan movie, right?

    @Diego I laughed at that.

  55. hammeronmessi
    March 1, 2011

    i think hitckock is still the maestro.for this kind of script see north by northwest or usual suspects.and if you really wanna confuse yourself bout your identity watch memento.
    @eklavya,you r indian and a med student,right?nice mythical nick,btw.

    • Eklavya
      March 1, 2011

      No, no I’m not a medical student! I prefer Physics!

  56. soccermomof4
    March 1, 2011

    Hey guys, I’ve decided to do less posting and more lurking for a while. Hope you understand. I won’t be gone forever so the typos will be back 🙂

  57. soccermomof4
    March 1, 2011

    Oh, and don’t feed the trolls!

  58. Lev
    March 1, 2011

    Mmmm….so when is soccerkidwith4moms signing in?

  59. hammeronmessi
    March 1, 2011

    @jnice.
    I m an avid reader of the guardian.the way the ppl there enjoyed barcas loss i m now in war mood to beat the hell out of the gunners just to shut up these EPL ers.they are more unlikeable then guti.

    Vowed to return,its more like i will be back from terminator 2.

    Nice to know your dad is a gooner.in my cricket mad country its difficult to find a fan who supports a club.although in the WC season the country is literally divided into argentina and brazil.its simply amazing in wc football years in my country.

  60. Lev
    March 1, 2011

    off topic – congratulations to Ryan Giggs on his 20 year anniversary playing for Man U. A legend of the game

    • K_legit
      March 1, 2011

      Absolute legend and if I may add the hairiest player in existence 😀

      Sir Ryan of Canton indeed

  61. Sheena
    March 1, 2011

    Tito gave the press con today since Pep’s back is giving him trouble (and so our list of injuries continues to lengthen…), and I have to say, it’s really, really bothering me that Puyol and Valdes don’t have a set return time.

    I’d be content with Pinto in goal for Arsenal (not because of Valdes’ error in the first leg mind you, accidents happen), but the thought of being without both Puyol and Pique is one that frightens the living daylights out of me. It hadn’t occured to me that Puyol may not make it in time, but after today’s press conference in which Tito said that he couldn’t predict when he would be back on the pitch……… My head hurts.

    • Jnice
      March 1, 2011

      I feel the same as you do.

      After reading what Tito had to say, I doubt Puyol will play against Arsenal.

      He still hasn’t been able to train with the team, and if they can’t predict a date yet, then I don’t see how he will be ready in 7 days.

      Same applies to Victor, though like you, I’m more worried about the Puyol absence.

      I think we may see Busquets back there because I don’t know if Pep would play two lefties in Abidal and Milito at center back.

      Ugh.

      • Sheena
        March 1, 2011

        I don’t know about Pep leaving out Milito entirely. Busi in midfield is so crucial, and I’d really hate to see the formation (or lack of one) that we saw against Bilbao in which he played as a CB/MF/Astronaut. He’s so, so important to our passing game.

        My favoured choice would be Mascherano at CB, but I highly doubt Pep would risk that for the first time in such a crucial game.

        I want to throw things at my wall. Sigh.

        • Jnice
          March 1, 2011

          Yeah, I definitely want Busi in midfield, but I just don’t know if Pep is willing to play two lefties together.

          Maybe Euler has some thoughts about this.

          And on Puyol, if he doesn’t start training with the team by the weekend at the very least, I don’t see how he will start against Arsenal.

      • Extreme barca fan
        March 1, 2011

        Ohh, as usual the english version of the official website have nothing up to date.
        So it will be like last year when we played without the P-P partnership, lets hope messi will score 4 more goals.

    • Goo
      March 1, 2011

      Even Pep’s injured? Wow. I thought February’s over.

      • mei
        March 1, 2011

        Small squad…We should sign a replacement!

  62. March 1, 2011

    Saw on the Twitters via @barcastuff that Alves and the club are less than a half-mil apart, and that Alves is willing to give up half that difference. Seems like he’s putting his actions where his mouth is. He has said that he wants to retire with us.

    • soccermomof4
      March 1, 2011

      Comming out of posting limbo long enough to say please read thread and do what you can about the strangeness. Outta here!

    • hammeronmessi
      March 1, 2011

      very funny,though it is the fault of NIKE,not because of QF

      • mei
        March 1, 2011

        So , THATS why guardiola had a back injury? the damn new training kit ? 😛

  63. March 1, 2011

    Right. Here we go:

    When we are out in the world, posting as our little Barca-happy selves, we should recognize that right now, we aren’t exactly everybody’s favorite team. They believe that we’re arrogant, holier-than-thou namby pambies. As such, people are going to decide to, for lack of a more elegant phrase, eff with us. This might manifest itself in comments that send up our comments or screen names, might be trollers, might be similarly-named commenters at various sites.

    We would ALL do well to presume that the person is honest, until they prove otherwise, and not act as arrogant and sanctimonious as people accuse our team of being. The hostility that greeted soccerdadof4 is not cool. He didn’t use the same Gravatar image as soccermomof4. He used an image from an extraordinary moment in this club’s history, just as any Barca fanatic might do. Nothing wrong with that.

    As for his moniker, what if (shudder) soccerdadof4 actually is a soccer dad, with 4 kids, and got the idea from soccermomof4? Nothing wrong with that. Did SoccerMom take umbrage when soccermomof4 showed up? No. We should not circle the wagons and assume that everyone is an impostor or interloper. This is an open site, in that it is open to anyone who registers. It’s a bit of bother to register, for the express purpose of being a jackass.

    So the first thing that I would do about the “strangeness,” such as it is, is remind everyone of what I just said. We’ve made a name for ourselves by being a cool, welcoming space in which everyone is welcome. If people come and are up to no good, management will deal with it.

    Now, back to footy.

    • blitzen
      March 1, 2011

      Who are you, and what have you done with the real Kxevin?!? 😉

      And I totally read that phrase as “Barca-happy elves” the first-time through. 😀

      I demand an Isaiah preview of tomorrow’s game!

    • soccermomof4
      March 1, 2011

      Sorry Kxexin, Please accept my apologies. It’s just freaky to someone as overly cautious as I am, and too coincidental for me not to freak out. And when another poster mentioned my daughter, momma bear’s claws came out.

      As for soccermom and me having similar names, I’ve often worried about it. But by the time I thought to change it everyone knew me as soccermomof 4.

      Again sorry. How ’bout them Blaugrana!

    • Lev
      March 1, 2011

      well said.

      to both soccerdad and karyanna – if my comments seemed sharp, my tongue was firmly in cheek when i wrote them

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