Andres Iniesta and the Bear

So, our very own Andres Iniesta is making quite a name for himself as a pitchman. He’s on air, pitching a television football package in a sequence of brilliant advertisements. It’s apparently a real bear, but we’re told that Carles Puyol is in the background, in case the bear gets a bit frisky with the future of our midfield.

Here are the videos, and they are brilliant. We’re posting them here for posterity, so that when people want to have an “Awwwww!” moment, they can come here:

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In my fantasy life, I’m a Barca-crazed contributor over at Barcelona Football Blog. In my real life, I’m a full-time journalist at the Chicago Tribune, based in Chicago, Illinois.

262 Comments

  1. GREECE BARCA
    December 15, 2010

    Thanx kxevin for the new post.You can.t imagine how i was waiting for the end of the previous…

  2. GREECE BARCA
    December 15, 2010

    I have some ideas for posts in weeks like this:Legends of barca(kubala,cruyff,rivaldo e.t.c).Or historical moments of our team.

    • Diego S.
      December 15, 2010

      Great Idea.

      Or a Vote or a Poll about a certain issue. Keeping Alves or selling him, Sponsorship deal, and so on.

      • blitzen
        December 15, 2010

        Nah. I would much rather a discussion than a poll. Polls are too easy.

        • GREECE BARCA
          December 16, 2010

          Polls are more interesting than discussion for homosexuals have sex in the streets of qatar.

  3. momo
    December 15, 2010

    And we’re back!
    Oh and what’s with those completely sensible rumors about us wanting to sell iniesta? I mean that’s the most sane thing I heard all day.
    But seriously what gives?

    • Kxevin
      December 15, 2010

      momo, it came from a Yahoo! story about Iniesta being an asset that the club could sell to reduce about 100m of debt. It came from the writer’s own mind, and was presented with the absurd “The club hasn’t ruled out …”

      Well, the club hasn’t ruled out manned flights to Venus yet, that doesn’t mean they’re likely to happen. It’s some dimwit making up a bit of nonsense that the club doesn’t even want to dignify with a denial. Why not Messi, I say, who is worth a darn sight more than Iniesta. Lower sunblock bills, as well.

  4. December 15, 2010

    I have a question to the Barca fans. Yes Ronaldo is annoying and pisses the shit out of most sane people. But here i go, does Alves really have to mention him in every press conference he makes? I mean surely there are other things to talk about. SURELY!

    And just a theory, any chance, considering both are annoying and arrogant as hell, that CR7 and Alves are related? DA2?

    • ooga aga
      December 15, 2010

      i dont remember alves ever mentioning CR7, surely if he mentions him in “every” press conference, you can provide a few examples? thanks.

      • December 15, 2010

        **http://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/52942/2010/12/14/Cristiano-Ronaldo-Daniel-Alves-Bar%C3%A7a-Real-Madrid

        And take it easy dude, it was more of a joke.

        • Kari
          December 15, 2010

          I mean surely there are other things to talk about. SURELY.

          Don’t call me Shirley! Technically, Bassam, that’s an interview (nit picking at its best 😀 ). And in Dani’s defense, Thong Boy is pretty annoying* 😛

          *http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=850932&sec=uefachampionsleague&cc=5901

          By the way, keep up the good work at the Real Offside! I don’t comment there, but your work is, IMO, the best on the blog. And you maybemyfavouriteEEwriter, but if you bring that up or tell anyone, I’ll deny it. 🙂

          • December 15, 2010

            *takes snap shot, forwards it to Xavi, who shows it to Pique, who tweets about it followed with an oooooh?*

            Thanks! My whole point of the post was to show in a very discrete way that interviews are bullshit sometimes. Let me site you an example of how it goes.

            Interviewer (ie a scum bag from Marca): So Bassam, what do you like more, Dog shit or Dog piss?

            Bassam: I dont like both…

            SBFM: Gun to your head what would you choose?

            B: Dog Piss i guess…

            Marca Headline:

            Bassam enjoys drinking Dog Piss everyday and claims sources in Madrid told him that Messi likes that too and they are going to Bid for Rooney, Torres, Messi and Villa.

            Its journalism at its best. BEST!

            I will try my best to call you Shirley Kari.

            And FYI, a room with both Alves and Thong boy is probably my worse nightmare.

        • BTTFCule
          December 15, 2010

          I think what he said is alright. You know it’s the press asking him about Mourinho and C.Ronaldo just like the Cesc saga

        • ooga aga
          December 15, 2010

          im goin on a friggin rampage here! see?

    • blitzen
      December 15, 2010

      If someone in a press conference asks a question, he’s going to answer. It’s not like he just brings it up just out of nowehere.

      • Jnice
        December 15, 2010

        Exactly. Dani doesn’t go “hey guys, you know what? Cristiano Ronaldo is good, but he is arrogant”. The media should be the ones blamed for asking the same silly questions over and over. Dani is only telling the truth.

  5. ooga aga
    December 15, 2010

    interesting discussion of the (new?) offsides rule:

    *http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/12/15/offside-goal/#more-5401

  6. Kari
    December 15, 2010

    L.O.L.

    *http://i56.tinypic.com/2945sli.jpg

    (credit: reginality)

    • Nik
      December 15, 2010

      It’s funny because it’s true. OOOOoooooooohhhhhh!

    • blitzen
      December 15, 2010

      It’s troooooohhhh!!!!! 😀

      (Personally I am loving the adventures of the Tres Amics. And I don’t even have Twitter!

  7. GREECE BARCA
    December 15, 2010

    Who else want to see valdez score a goal?I mean if we are 4-0 in a game and we won a penalty!It will be nice to see victor scoring!!I believe only him is without a goal in our squad!

    • blitzen
      December 15, 2010

      It’s Valdes. ValdeS! Sorry, but this bugs me!

    • Kari
      December 15, 2010

      Who else want to see valdez score a goal?

      I don’t. Two against us with Hercules was enough! (Just teasing, Greece! 😛 )

      • ooga aga
        December 15, 2010

        abidal gets a PK before valdes…

    • IS
      December 16, 2010

      I’d like to see Abidal score one first..

  8. Goo
    December 15, 2010

    From Barcastuff:
    Xavi (giving the ball to Lass after the clasico): “Here, since you didn’t have the ball the whole night, you can have it for a while.” [md]

    Hee.

    • Kxevin
      December 15, 2010

      Saw that in EMD this morning, wasn’t sure if it was true. Have to add that to the “Man, that’s cold!” file.

    • IS
      December 16, 2010

      What makes it so sweet (Cold? Ice cold… but oh so sweet) was how Lass was thrown on especially to hack and chase Xavi.

      Goo, a pic of Crynaldo (albeit his back, midway through an ego-driven-hands-on-hips-sulk) HERE?! How could you?!

  9. MoSSi
    December 15, 2010

    Speaking of El Clasico, I don’t know if this has been mentioned earlier..

    Before the second goal at 17:30, Marcelo (the one I hate the most after Crybaby) clearly fauls Pedro and he turns around and starts yelling at him and makes a gesture to get up..

    And we all know what happens next..

  10. Kari
    December 15, 2010

    Messi, who missed two games, has so far scored as many goals in the Liga as the whole team of Espanyol: 17 [barcastuff]

    Wow.

  11. blitzen
    December 15, 2010

    So what do we all think of the reports of dissent in Real Madrid’s changing rooms? Apparently CRonaldo has no friends and his teammates don’t even celebrate his goals. He has fallen out with Casillas over the remarks made by Sara Carbonbiscuits (that he is an egoist and selfish on the field) and Mourinho doesn’t want to get involved. Supposedly CRonaldo doesn’t understand why his teammates don’t love him as much as Barca players love Messi.

    Source is apparently the popular radio show El Larguero. Opinions? True, false, do we care?

    • HY
      December 15, 2010

      We don’t care, but if it’s true, are we surprised?

    • Jose
      December 15, 2010

      Don’t know what to make of it. It’s weird, but I don’t get that warm schadenfreude when EE is having issues *off the field*.

      But Cristiano Ronaldo wondering why his teammates don’t treat him with the same affection as Barca treats Messi? That’s simply a silly question: Messi has been playing with most of these guys for over 5 years, and knew many of them as a canterano.

      Same as when madridistas complain that their team didn’t look like they were “hungry for it” at El Clasico: assembling a brand new team in 2-3 years time has consequences beyond the team “not gelling” on the field.

      Then again, these are all rumors right now, right?

  12. HY
    December 15, 2010

    Loved this thing (especially the ending) until I found out that it’s a real bear. Can’t really enjoy it now =(

    • SoccerMom
      December 16, 2010

      Yeah but maybe PETA rescued it from the sights of Sarah Palin!

      • HY
        December 17, 2010

        That…is certainly the best of the worst-case scenarios, lol.

  13. blitzen
    December 15, 2010

    Gabi to Argentina?

    *http://www.goal.com/en/news/585/argentina/2010/12/15/2262988/independiente-hold-out-hope-of-bringing-back-barcelona

    Well, I realize it is coming from BS.com, but could there be a kernel of truth to this? Gabi is 30, hasn’t been at his peak physically, and if Fontas gets promoted in January as many suspect he will, that will be one more competitor for the CB positions.

    “… Gabi want(s) to play in Independiente but it depends more on their own desires than anything we can offer,” the chief concluded.”

    Doesn’t sound like they can put up much money for him. Anyone know when Gabi’s contract expires?

    • Jnice
      December 15, 2010

      His agent came out and said there was no chance of it happening.

  14. blitzen
    December 15, 2010

    Messi is diplomatic (in Milan for an ad campaign, responding to ridiculous media questions about joining Inter):

    “At the moment I’m not thinking about Inter,” the 23-year-old stated to Sky Sport 24.

    “Moratti? I like his compliments – he is a great president and a very good person.”

  15. inNYC
    December 15, 2010

    I think we’re losing focus on what’s important. Iniesta magically making friends with a bear. Focus, people.

    • blitzen
      December 15, 2010

      I think they should make this a weekly series. Crackovia on Mondays, El Crack i El Oso on Thursdays. It’s a no-brainer!

    • Benj
      December 15, 2010

      I think even you are missing the main point…

      ANDRES IS GOING AROUND KICKING ROCKS!!!

      I think with legs as magical and yet fragile as his, he shouldnt even be kicking bubbles in his spare time…

      Must protect the precious…

  16. Alexinho
    December 15, 2010

    I feel bad that I missed out on a top-notch conversation in the last post while I was at work, and it’s a shame that as I enter, everyone’s tired of it. Sorry, folks, but I must weigh in on the last post’s subject.

    Harvey Milk once said (well, at least in the movie) that if everyone comes out of the closet, and everyone sees loved ones in the flesh for who they really are, anti-gay laws and notions–whether propagated directly or indirectly by the United States, Qatar, FIFA, or what have you–will come crashing down.

    So fuck it. I’m bisexual–that is, I’m into men and women. I’ve settled into that reality over the last few years, and have had the reassurance and comfort of those around me whom have accepted this.

    So there!

    And I’m sure I’m not the only one on this blog that is this way.

    So what sayeth the blog? If the revolution does not begin with professional footballers coming out publicly, it might as well get a bump in the forums in which people discuss professional footballers, shouldn’t it?

    Viva la Revolucion, BFB–

    • blitzen
      December 15, 2010

      Me too, Alex, so there’s two of us. Don’t tell! 😉

      • Lev
        December 16, 2010

        well i guess the best thing to happen in Qatar is if a superstar or two came out of the closet during the world cup…

        that’s all i’m gonna say since i’ve said enough.

        btw am i the only one who doesn’t go all weak in the knees for iniesta & osito?

      • cliu
        December 16, 2010

        Alex and Blitzen — even in a low stakes comment thread like this one, it takes cojones to come out and say this is me, I love football. That is how you fight prejudice, whatever culture it comes from. I’m Chinese-American and my dad is freaked out by a having an African-American president. Do I say I respect his cultural difference or where he is coming from? No. He’s wrong. I don’t fight him about it everyday, but I will stand up to him in every conversation he brings it up. So I think there is a limit to “cultural relativism.” Some things like CR7’s attitude and racism and homophobia are just wrong.

    • inNYC
      December 15, 2010

      I admire your willingness to put yourself “out” there on this subject. If it means anything, count me among the readers here that does not care at all what your or anyone else’s preferences are. I also wasn’t bored reading the last post. Sports and fandom are an escape in many ways, and many of us would like to keep them on their own separate plane because mostly that’s how we experience and engage with them, but unfortunately the real world and its politics are very much a part of it all.

      I generally regard Sports Illustrated as one of the worst offenders when it comes to nostalgic, self righteous sports-cliche indulgence, but i was actually moved by their story on Gareth Thomas last year. Sports and sports culture shouldn’t do that to people–fans or players. It shouldn’t be that way. And I think you are right that fans can play a role in demanding that those repressive norms change. I would welcome more of that discussion any day, any time.

      When I travel I am fine with making concessions to the norms around me. I’ve been in some conservative places and I don’t mind wearing certain clothes or covering my hair or whatever is polite to show some acknowledgement of “how things are done around here.” It is on the visitor to show some respect. It is also on the host to show some hospitality, and if that means inviting the world to your country, there are probably some concessions that could be made on that side as well. All that being said, if many football fans choose to stay away from Russia or Qatar for reasons having to do with their attitudes or practices around human rights or various cultural norms, that’s their choice to make too and perfectly reasonable.

    • Kxevin
      December 16, 2010

      Coolest. Comment. Evah. Rock on, Alexinho!

      And I’m not bi, but if Roger Federer decided that he wanted to go black, that would be another matter.

    • Alexinho
      December 16, 2010

      Thank you for your responses, and sorry for beating the horse to death–

    • Dave
      December 16, 2010

      Sweet Jesus, make up your mind, man or woman, stop trying to get the best of both worlds. I haven’t a homophobic bone in my body, but what I can’t stand is those who who sit on the fence. Nail your colours.:)

  17. sheena
    December 16, 2010

    Oh my. Iniesta is more adorable than the bear in these videos.

  18. barca96
    December 16, 2010

    Yes he does ey?
    Especially the last part in the living room after the CR7 part. Hehe

  19. K(legit)
    December 16, 2010

    Hey its Gudjohnsen..why did he die his hair brown?
    Oh wait…

    • K(legit)
      December 16, 2010

      The tree will be the death of us all 😀

  20. K(legit)
    December 16, 2010

    barcastuff says that Alves’s agent met with reps from Man City

  21. Guano
    December 16, 2010

    que vale mas

    CL win

    or

    humiliate mourinho again, take la liga

    • ooga aga
      December 16, 2010

      no hay que escoger, agarraramos los dos

    • Lev
      December 16, 2010

      honestly if we get another manita i wouldn’t even care if they won the league or not 🙂

    • Ryan
      December 16, 2010

      I’d vote for winning our 4th CL, but I want both!

  22. mei
    December 16, 2010

    espanyol is preparing eagerly for the derby.
    They are planning carefully , investing lots of time in the way the crowd will receive us(mosaic etc).
    Boy I really hope we win this one to rub it in their ugly hostile faces.
    Wish EE rival was that motivated rather than bending over backwards for them every much and never making a fuss about it.

  23. Vj
    December 16, 2010

    Not to nitpick, but the title says ‘Barcelona FC player’ instead of FC Barcelona…

  24. GREECE BARCA
    December 16, 2010

    I like how cruyff say now that we are just another club but 5 years before he said the opposite thing.Man you are a legend but stop the politics.

  25. MoSSi
    December 16, 2010

    Barcelona have a deal on the transfer of Santos attacker and Brazilian international Neymar (18). [as]

    From Barcastuff..

    I would die if he joins us, he has such a big ego..

    • barca96
      December 16, 2010

      I don’t believe it.
      Pep doesn’t like that kind of player.
      He rejected Robinho multiple times already.
      Ok, he made a mistake with Ibra,
      once bitten twice shy.

      • blitzen
        December 16, 2010

        ^ Exactly. Kid got his coach fired, for Pete’s sake. He wouldn’t last 5 minutes with Pep.

        • BA
          December 16, 2010

          the difference being that Robinho, when the transfer rumours arose, was a full professional in the middle of his career. Neymar, by contrast, is a young kid with raw talent. clearly he’s going to be a phenomenal player…

          but the question is the same one with Ibrahimovic: could he adapt his ATTITUDE to our system and it’s demands? the answer to that is much more difficult to determine than gauging his ability.

          with Thiago likely being promoted, Afellay coming into the team and Bojan brightening the competition is going to be fierce for a starting place. our starting 11 is the best on the planet of any side, club or national. our bench is looking far more complete than it did at the beginning of the season, with Keita, Mascherano, Bojan, G. Milito, Adriano, Maxwell and now Afellay along with up-and-comers Fontas and Thiago (in fact that’s probably a pretty good starting 9 right there…). a young player would have to be hugely confident or enormously brave (probably both) to sign for us right now.

          if he doesn’t demand a starting place (few 18-year-olds can) and seems willing to work in the system, in a couple of seasons Neymar could be a priceless asset. so could Ibrahimovic have been. it’s a big gamble for both parties, and we saw how the last one turned out.

          an interesting proposition., but not entirely deserving of the quick rejection.

          • BA
            December 16, 2010

            between us, though, i’d rather have Ganso than Neymar.

  26. barca96
    December 16, 2010

    Thanks to Dora the Explorer, I know what Iniesta was saying at the
    end. Dore: “Say Abre, abre, abre.” 🙂 Heard it a million times my lil sis watching it

    • soccermomof4
      December 16, 2010

      Finally, we’re back to football…..well footballers and bears…..tiny vampire ghosts and bears….

      Benj wins best quote of the thread for me:

      “I think even you are missing the main point…

      ANDRES IS GOING AROUND KICKING ROCKS!!!

      I think with legs as magical and yet fragile as his, he shouldnt even be kicking bubbles in his spare time…

      Must protect the precious…”

      I’m finding it hard to go a whole week without a NEW game to watch and must start thinking about this weekend. So since my prediction for the Sociedad manita worked, here goes:
      0-5 Messi(another brace), Pedro, Villa, and Valdes (to make Greek Barca happy)

  27. GREECE BARCA
    December 16, 2010

    Neymar is 18?Wow?He can be our striker for next 10years.Yes please.

  28. soccermomof4
    December 16, 2010

    He can be our headache for the next 10 years. No please.

    Ofcourse Pep wouldn’t put up with him that long. It would be like signing CR7-lite. Extremely talented prospect, but too full of himself and therefore not a good fit for us.

    • soccermomof4
      December 16, 2010

      sorry, this was meant to be a reply.

  29. Jnice
    December 16, 2010

    I would take Ganso over Neymar any day.

  30. December 16, 2010

    Why Chgrynskiy is still making commercials with Ghostface? Was there a clause in the sale?

    Oh, I wanna beat Espanyol really badly, I don’t think we can score a lot, but I wanna see them suffer!

  31. December 16, 2010

    If we buy a player, that HAS to be a 9 (Neymar isn’t). Currently, that’s what this squad lack, catastrophically. And mark my words, this will bite us hard at the worst timing.

    Or else, I am completely satisfied with what we have. There will always be great talents/players out there, the most important thing is what we need in here.

  32. Eklavya
    December 16, 2010

    I would take Bojan over Neymar!

  33. sheena
    December 16, 2010

    If we were going to make a big money move, the only player I’d want is Llorente. A target man for when we desperately need a plan B. Other than that, I think Afellay is exactly what we need in terms of depth. I do wonder where Pep will utilize him the most though.

    • blitzen
      December 16, 2010

      Reports are that Mourinho is going to make a last-ditch attempt to convince the RM board that he needs Llorente, even though they said they wouldn’t buy anyone in January.

      I have yet to see any conclusive evidence that Llorente is actually for sale, however.

      • sheena
        December 16, 2010

        Sigh. I honestly would not be surprised if he does end up going to the EE. But I still (and I may be in the minority here) believe that we need a target man up front.
        Right now, our squad is playing at its magical best, and our strikers are banging goals in left, right and centre.
        But our team also happens to be at its absolute peak, and I’m afraid of what will happen when our form begans to wane in February and we need to rack up the goals.

        Then again, maybe I’m just being excessively paranoid. 🙂

  34. December 16, 2010

    Bojan’s case closed, he is not going anywhere. Just as expected.

    Maybe we could have another mid-season discussion about our number 9, coz it’s about time. Though I think it’s not gonna be much of a debate as he has been playing so much better. His movements are becoming much sharper and more importantly, HE HAS BEEN SCORING GOALS ! Yes, real goals and in real games! So, he deservedly extended. I think his performance curve has to go nowhere but up from this point on, and we need him to.

    It will be interesting in the second half of the season because of our new signing Afellay will be with us to add things. I can’t wait to see!

    • Kxevin
      December 16, 2010

      Yep, Krkic and Busquets are thisclose to renewals. And boy, that Iniesta sale story just cracks me up. We finally had to deny it because it was starting to get traction, as too many footy stories do. And I repeat, it all started because some journalist noted that if we were looking to reduce our debt, we could knock 100m off right away by selling Iniesta. That’s how it ALL started, and there was never a shard of veracity in the rumors. Not nevah. Evah.

      The Alves rumors continue apace, with buzz of United and Citeh starting a bidding war. 29m POUNDS from Citeh? Wow.

      Alves could solve all of this by saying “We will find a way to resolve my situation at Barcelona, so people need to calm the hell down.” But that ain’t gonna happen. And as I have said, if he wants the money more than the quality of life and football, good riddance. We want to pay him almost as much as Xavi, which probably puts him in the 5-6m per annum range. I know that players have egos, and think that “If so and so is worth this much, then I am worth THIS much!” But come on.

      So as I have also said before. If he’s going, a bidding war ain’t bad thing. 30m+Euros might not buy a replacement, as he is irrreplacable, but I don’t care. I don’t want players here who don’t want to be here. This thing has been screwing around since last February. Get it done, or get gone.

      • blitzen
        December 16, 2010

        We could wipe the debt out entirely if we sold Iniesta, Messi, Xavi, Pique and Alves. Let’s do it! Fiscal responsibility!

  35. Kxevin
    December 16, 2010

    ZubiZa says that we have 50m for transfers this summer, and for the summers to come. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: I’ll take 17m for transfers, and an unsold shirt.

    AS is the only place reporting the Neymar thing, so I wouldn’t get too worked up about it yet. They also reported that we also successfully negotiated for Ganso, which further strains the credulity of that report.

  36. momo
    December 16, 2010

    Better buy the current jerseys while you can people, cuz DAMN they’re about to get ugly!!
    *http://www.totalbarca.com/2010/news/new-shirt-design-given-green-light-by-lfp/
    I know… I hope its fake too.

    • Kxevin
      December 16, 2010

      Don’t forget that part of the agreement was that the UNICEF logo would be as large as the QF Foundation logo. Us moving it to the rear of the shirt and going huge on the QF logo strains credulity. It’s why I’m staying clear of all such things until I see something approaching official. Rest assured that when a shirt design comes out, you’ll see it in one of the mouthpieces (Sport or EMD) first.

  37. blitzen
    December 16, 2010

    All this talk of needing a number 9 when we already have one! There is nothing wrong with Bojan that a pair of these won’t fix:

    *http://www.kangoojumps.ch/doc14.htm

    Now, I own a pair of these bad boys myself, and I can tell you that you can run really fast in them and jump really high. Just think how effective Bobo would be with headers from corners and those high crosses Dani likes to smash across the box! OK, he wouldn’t be nearly as skillful with his footwork, but that’s not what Plan B is about, right? 🙂

  38. GREECE BARCA
    December 16, 2010

    Yeah i wish when laporta was president kxevin you said same things.But then you prefered ibra for 80m than an unsold shirt.

    • Kxevin
      December 16, 2010

      I’m sick of your shit, Greece Barca. You have absolutely no goddamned idea WHAT the hell I preferred. Stop it. Just stop it. Think before you type, because this comment has officially pissed me the hell off. You come here spouting invective and making accusations that have absolutely no basis in reality, and it doesn’t make any sense.

      Everybody in this space was excited about the signing of Ibrahimovic, because of the talent and potential that be brought to the club. DO YOUR HOMEWORK! There is an archive of posts and comments.

      I love this club with all of my heart and soul. I would sell ANY PLAYER before the shirt. I have made that abundantly clear. If you think that I would prefer Ibrahimovic over us the club whoring out the front of its shirt, then you’re too stupid and misguided for me to talk to.

      Yes, this is an ill-tempered, inadvisable comment. But this the last personal attack that I am going to take from you, and if you were here, I would tell you that to your face. Stop it. If you can’t post here without hurling accusations and fire-starting, one of us will have to go. Period. Because I am up to goddamned here with it. Seriously.

      • mei
        December 16, 2010

        hey we didnt have this type of comments when we were talking about politics, homosexuality and racism ! this for a long gone player is simply unecessary.

        • blitzen
          December 16, 2010

          It’s a pattern of behaviour that is being objected to, this comment was just the last straw and I don’t blame him.

  39. GREECE BARCA
    December 16, 2010

    What i mean is that:Yes rosell make a mistake,a big one.But why we don.t talk about laporta.s big uneccesary transfers?About big salaries that the club can.t deal with?Yes i prefer 15m for transfers and a clean shirt.BUT we spended 90m every summer and nobody said back then:Hey what.s going on here?We have not the money for this!Be critical to rosell but also be critical for those who bring us in this situation.

  40. GREECE BARCA
    December 16, 2010

    No problem.I ll go.Maybe is better for you.

  41. December 16, 2010

    It was already announced that the club will have 50 millions every summer for transfers. I am trying to figure how will we find enough place for another 250M worth players in the following 5 years (Thats beside the money you get for selling-and we have some products on sale).

    Mind you, if we spend the mentioned money on transfers, we will increase amortization expense 10 M every year, it will be (10,20,30,40,50 respectively in the following five years just from the following transfers). All that and we are not talking about Salaries increase yet (Salaries expenses is the account killing us most in the budget). That will easily eat twice the return of the sponsorship deal. I just dont get it.

    Lets create a real life scenario: Suppose we spent the whole 65 M available this summer buying a striker (just assume that). We may get something close to 25 millions coming from the sale of the loaned players. What do we need more for the Squad? say a CB. done.

    What will we need t buy in the second season? The third? I say this squad can survive two seasons without transfers, with Oriol, Batra, Thiago,JDS, and many more youth getting chances as well. Thats at least a hundred millions saved from transfer budget and 10 to 15 in salaries. the sponsorship return in those years is lower than that. So if you need money to finance budget, that is a better way to go.

  42. Kxevin
    December 16, 2010

    An Apology

    So. As one of the authors and moderators of this space, I’m supposed to be above it all. I’m supposed to be able to take anything and deal with it, because being in the kitchen means that things are going to get hot. Player ratings, evaluations, no matter, tolerance should be part of the deal.

    My comment to Greece Barca was beyond the pale. Simple as that. As with Isaiah’s Fabregas Diving post, I’ll leave it rather than cleansing the space, as a monument to how not to behave. It also means that I’ll be taking a bit of a break. Not permanent, but I need some time to breathe. We’ve had a very intense and extended period, starting with Fabregas, continuing with Ibrahimovic, Qatar and the shirt sale. And I am more than a little raw, apparently.

    So just as I wouldn’t accept a comment such as that from a member of this family, I can’t accept it from myself, either. So I’ll take a bit of a break, get my mind right, and return refreshed, renewed and more even-tempered. I’ll also forward this to Greece Barca, via e-mail.

    Thanks everyone, and apologies again.

    • blitzen
      December 16, 2010

      Aww, don’t go, Kxevin! We’re playing Espanyol this weekend, remember? We need your insight and commentary. Even mods are allowed to lose their tempers once in a while. And comparing this to the Fagregas Diving post (which I naturally had to go and find once you mentioned it)? Not even close. Don’t be too hard on yourself. After all, we are the ones who suffer if you go away. 😀

    • Nik
      December 16, 2010

      Admirable of you to step up and apologize, Kxevin. I didn’t really feel you had to, as Greece has a habit of making baiting comments towards you(especially in regards to the Ibra situation smh. I don’t think he’s ever heard of the dead horse analogy).

      However, props to you for holding yourself to a standard of behavior and publicly acknowledging when you didn’t meet it.

    • Eklavya
      December 16, 2010

      Huh? You’re not allowed to blow up? Cause you’re a Mod.?

    • HY
      December 16, 2010

      My reaction after reading this…well, I’ll quote one of my favorite writers.

      “Class with a capital C.” – by Kxevin

      If you really need to take a break, then I hope it’ll be a brief one.

    • December 16, 2010

      Kxevin,

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjBoRnuobJM

      And i’m straight also :))

      Everyone loses his temper once in a while. Myself, as admin of my country’s biggest forum have done it sometimes… But from my experience i could tell you that you’ve done noble thing apologising, although i put +1 in the vote that the member you talked to pushed too far. And if you do apologise, he should also, that will prove that it has been a matter of two gentlemans who’ve had a bad moment. And nothing above that..

      Hell,
      everyone has a right to make mistake, although i repeat, i do not see it as mistake, because you’re not a droid but human. And you do not need time off to settle down. You’re doing perfectly, your brain’s working like Messi’s legs, your temper is even cooler then Thuram’s. And he is as cool as iceberg.

      Normally, you do not need to listen to my suggestion and “cure” the state you think you’re in by not running from here, but i think that it is a wise advice (not trying to implicate that i’m wise 🙂 ).

      There’s always possibility that you actually need time off something, i.e. BFB, and that is completely normal, and it has nothing to do with the comment outburst – if this is how you feel, go for it man, like Ibra’s gone on a loan to Milan and he’ll be back stronger and better for us :))

      But whatever the challenges in my life, whatever the objectives that sometimes seem faraway, impossible… my passion has always helped me get myself together. And your passion is analysing, blogging about P!! and Captain Caveman (has anyone givven nickname to Puyi by now?), hangiong out with us enjoying yours (and all of the others) amazing work… and breathing football.

      I hope that after the beer-brake of few hours you’ve taken, you’ll be reading this, prepared to continue where you’ve stopped: being awesome editor/moderator of this blog.

      Sincerely,
      Bobby

      p.s. When i clicked on comment, the NO CAPTCHA screen scared me to death… i though all i wrote was lost. But i was prepared typing it again. That’s how important you are 😉

    • December 16, 2010

      Your comment is awaiting moderation. – NOT ANY MORE 🙂
      December 16, 2010 at 12:44 pm
      Kxevin,

      *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjBoRnuobJM

      And i’m straight also )

      Everyone loses his temper once in a while. Myself, as admin of my country’s biggest forum have done it sometimes… But from my experience i could tell you that you’ve done noble thing apologising, although i put +1 in the vote that the member you talked to pushed too far. And if you do apologise, he should also, that will prove that it has been a matter of two gentlemans who’ve had a bad moment. And nothing above that..

      Hell,
      everyone has a right to make mistake, although i repeat, i do not see it as mistake, because you’re not a droid but human. And you do not need time off to settle down. You’re doing perfectly, your brain’s working like Messi’s legs, your temper is even cooler then Thuram’s. And he is as cool as iceberg.

      Normally, you do not need to listen to my suggestion and “cure” the state you think you’re in by not running from here, but i think that it is a wise advice (not trying to implicate that i’m wise ).

      There’s always possibility that you actually need time off something, i.e. BFB, and that is completely normal, and it has nothing to do with the comment outburst – if this is how you feel, go for it man, like Ibra’s gone on a loan to Milan and he’ll be back stronger and better for us )

      But whatever the challenges in my life, whatever the objectives that sometimes seem faraway, impossible… my passion has always helped me get myself together. And your passion is analysing, blogging about P!! and Captain Caveman (has anyone givven nickname to Puyi by now?), hangiong out with us enjoying yours (and all of the others) amazing work… and breathing football.

      I hope that after the beer-brake of few hours you’ve taken, you’ll be reading this, prepared to continue where you’ve stopped: being awesome editor/moderator of this blog.

      Sincerely,
      Bobby

      p.s. When i clicked on comment, the NO CAPTCHA screen scared me to death… i though all i wrote was lost. But i was prepared typing it again. That’s how important you are

    • mei
      December 16, 2010

      well if i characterized your previous comment as unecessary , this one is unacceptable.
      Mods are leading the way and are doing it suberbly , and are not supposed to be perfect , nobody would even want that.
      I will personally refrain from reading a post in BFB unless I spot the next kxevin article around here ,which I demand to be about the espanyol game. 🙂

  43. Vj
    December 16, 2010

    Well Greece Barca had a point there, which I think he wanted to put across, but in doing so, ended up as being inflammatory to Kxevin..

    To be fair, Greece Barca has come across a lot of criticism, some valid, some completely unfair..

    I hope he continues contributing to BFB, this place wouldn’t be the same without him..

  44. MIguel
    December 16, 2010

    i love this:

    “Sacchi (ex-Milan): ‘Zlatan has returned to Italy after being a partial failure at Barça. This has increased his openness to work’ [gazzetta]” via barcastuff

    • K(legit)
      December 16, 2010

      Sacchi is a LEGEND.
      Can’t believe Ibra (and his foul mouthed agent) tried to trash talk Cruyff and Sacchi in the same week. What potential career suicide!
      If you make a list of the biggest influences on modern football and strategy and etc Sacchi and Cruyff would be top 5 naterial IMO

  45. K(legit)
    December 16, 2010

    Perhaps as a relatively new member if this community I might put in my own 2 cents

    1. I have followed Kxevin’s posts in the old offside page and although I wasn’t a regular contributor it was one of the few sites I frequented for Barça news along with Pep’s blog.

    2. The style of writing and banter on that blog convinced me to start posting there but before I could become more regular the guys moved on to a new site.

    3. As life caught up with me my internet privileges became limited and I lost track of the happenings in Barça land.

    4. About a couple of months ago however, I stumbled onto this site and found (to my surprise) the same names I had associated with the old offside page and hence one of my first questions was regarding Genis ( a regular contributor there)

    5. Kxevin, I address this to you, specifically. You, Sir, are perhaps the very BEST writer on Barça I have ever had the privilege to read and the fact that you are taking this little disagreement with Greece Barca so seriously shows how dedicated you are to this space and to us, your loyal readers/fanbooys&fangirls. It is of utmost importance (from my view) you realise that flying off the handle once in a while is not wrong and if anything it is healthy to blow off steam. I am sure Greece Barca doesn’t take thsi seriously and if he is doing so he shouldn’t. It is the one clear ideal that all of us here love this Club, this wonderful, wonderful, GEM of a club and hence that is why we put our little differences aside and see at the greater good. We are here and write in this space because We Love Barça and that love is bigger than anything else. Bigger than any dodgy wannabe sponsor, bigger than any power hungry Presi, bigger than our little tiffs and definitely bigger than any single player. We are part of it and we will stay so perpetually. I hope you take this to heart and realise that you didn’t do anything untoward at all.

    Cheers!
    Visca el Barça

    • Whatever
      December 16, 2010

      Kev takes things too seriously sometimes. Greece Barca cought him in a bad moment (everyone has one once in a while).

      But it’s a fact that the Barca blogosphere would be the same without Kxevin.

  46. Kari
    December 16, 2010

    Wait, it says my comments in moderation…

    Will this comment be moderated too?

      • blitzen
        December 16, 2010

        No, you are very immoderate. 🙂

        • Kari
          December 16, 2010

          When it comes to EE and the Pericos!

          …Or any team that pisses me off on the day. 🙂

          • Vj
            December 16, 2010

            Everything in moderation please 😛

          • blitzen
            December 16, 2010

            Did you see my comment about Cuddly Toy above? Check it out, it could be the answer to all his problems!

  47. Kari
    December 16, 2010

    With the previous post, there were so many things I didn’t agree with (the first being the post itself) but I kept my mouth (fingers?) quiet because if I couldn’t articulate myself in a respectful, non-aggressive manner, I shouldn’t comment at all. Because first and foremost, I respect EVERYONE on this blog, even if our views don’t agree.

    So, I took a break.

    Taking a break isn’t bad. In fact, considering the role on BFB Kxevin, it’s better if you just sit back, spend quality with the wife, watch our matches (what better way to relax?) and come back energized. We’ll all still be here to call you a biased jerk when return 😀

    By the by, it’s good that you manned up and apologized. We’re all family here and sh*t happens–it’s how we deal with mess that speaks volumes about our character. Our blog has a heck of a lot of character and I hope it stays that way. As such, I hope Greece Barca apologies too, and continues contributing as well, but there’s no pressure for him to come back.

    If you want my advice:

    Kari Advice #1: If one needs to unleash pent-up frustration/anger/etc. on someone, save it for those damned Merengues! Pericos! (In this case.)

    • soccermomof4
      December 16, 2010

      socerMOMof4 advice to follow on Kari’s.

      We’re all passionate about this team or else we wouldn’t be spending precious time here. Where there is passion there will be tempers flairing from time to time. We’re all human. So when, NOT IF that happens, we appologize and move on.

      So take your respective breaks, rewatch the clasico to calm your nerves, and come back ready to trashtalk EE-lite I mean the Pericos.

      BTW, thatks to all the mods and regulars who keep this thing up and running. It’s not like we(those of us from the states where football means something totally different) can talk about this team with our neighbors who probably don’t know about the existance of FC Barcelona (I didn’t 2 year ago).

  48. Vj
    December 16, 2010

    This one cracked me up..

    “When I arrive at the [Bayern headquarters] on the Säbener Strasse,” Schweinsteiger said, “I feel right at home. I know all the employees from A to Z, and I know where the toilets are.” There’s definitely something to be said for this. Imagine you’re a top professional player earning just under £150,000 a week (Schweini’s new salary) and you come to work on a Monday morning only to find Arjen Robben standing in reception waiting for you with his hands on his hips. You can be sure he’s going to demand to know why you didn’t pass to him in the 67th minute on Saturday when he was free on the left. But if you know exactly where the bog is, you can hold up your hand and say “Just a second, mate, the pipes are full”, and then you duck into the can before he’s had the chance to waylay you. And you stay there until he’s been distracted by the posse of Interpol agents looking for Franck Ribéry.

    via DirtyTackle via When Saturday comes.. (Ian Plenderleith conducted the original interview/piece)

  49. MIguel
    December 16, 2010

    never again.

    *http://www.economist.com/node/17730188?story_id=17730188

    • BTTFCule
      December 16, 2010

      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 🙁 . I will stop watching Champions League altogether if that thing happens again this year 🙁 🙁

  50. Kari
    December 16, 2010

    We should have a poll before the draw tomorrow!

    “Who do you want in the R16”?

    a)Arsenal
    b)Inter
    c)Lyon
    d)Marseille
    e)Milan
    f)Roma

    • soccermomof4
      December 16, 2010

      You might expect me to say anyone but Arsenal but at this point in time (especially after Monday (UGH! YUK!)) …….BUT…..

      I’m re-posting my rant from after the Man U v Arsenal game:
      “At this point, I don’t care anymore. Give me a Barca v. Arsenal round of 16 and I will gladly cheer my head off for Barca against my second team. Barca goes through 10-0 on aggregate (2 manitas- we’re good at that). Then I want to play against United in the quarter finals because they didn’t show me much today either- Barca goes through 10-0 on aggragate(see above reason!).”

      Ofcourse, knocking BANGS out of it in the round of 16 could be satisfying (in a mean, vindictive, should-be-beneath-me-but-isn’t)way.

      • soccermomof4
        December 16, 2010

        Sorry, I’m grammar challenged as well as spelling challenged today.

    • Eklavya
      December 16, 2010

      We’ve been through this. Roma or Marseille!

    • Alexinho
      December 16, 2010

      PLEASE NOT ARSENAL!!

      This unnecessary rivalry, sparked by the Fabregas thing and fueled entirely by pissed-off fans on both sides to an extent I’ve never seen before, has to END.

  51. MIguel
    December 16, 2010

    tim stannard on the derby:

    *http://www.football365.com/spanish_thing/0,17033,9405,00.html

  52. Eklavya
    December 16, 2010

    You know actually I wouldn’t have minded playing ManU in the Round of 16 (R16 doesn’t work for me, it sounds to similar to R10!).

  53. Kari
    December 16, 2010

    I’m walking the Hectored tightrope, but whatever!

    *http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/12/16/2264027/chelsea-or-barcelona-milan-can-beat-anyone-zlatan

    Who cares if it’s an obvious and innocuous statement! It is so on, Ibra!

    —Ek, another variation of Round of 16 is Rof16 (that looks too much like “ROFL 6” to me.)

    –As for Inter, I don’t really want them anymore, simply because if (I really want the say when) we beat them, MouMou’s arse will be kissed (i.e. he’ll be used as an excuse.)

    • Eklavya
      December 16, 2010

      Hahaha I like that! Rof16 FTW! 😀

  54. Vicsoc8
    December 16, 2010

    Kxevin, in his ill timed rant and subsequent “break” has highlighted some of the reasons I have been much less active here than only a little while ago (besides of course the fact that I’m in my first year of medical school).

    I started posting on this blog for three reasons. 1. I love Barcelona 2. The writing of the authors is generally great (although they are human like any of us, and we shouldnt forget it) 3. The comment area was a close knit and tightly bonded community.

    Without pointing fingers, I think some of the “specialness” of the community is in serious danger of being lost. Many delicate and deep topics have always been discussed on this blog, but in the past they have always been discussed with the understanding that although people may differ in opinions, the commenters on this blog respected each other and would act accordingly.

    Recently I’ve seen all too often commenters dismissing the opinions of others as stupid, resorting to petty personal “attacks”, and either being unable or unwilling to discuss things in a mature and responsible way. Saying: “well, you just don’t like so-and-so” or “well you’re just Biased” is in no way productive to discussion on this forum.

    While I’m not talking about everyone, or even most people, I entreat you to remember why you come to this blog. We are like a small little family of very intense Barcelona fans. We are going to disagree, and that is ok. But when we do disagree we should use constructive arguments to back up our own position and never stop respecting the other bloggers here.

    The fact is that although only a small portion of us are writers on this blog, we are all responsible for the atmosphere of the blog. This blog was built in part on respect for your fellow posters, and I urge everyone to try to uphold this ideal.

    Sorry for Lecturing

    • Kari
      December 16, 2010

      Agreed.

      Recently, the blog has changed a bit. The tone of some of the posts as well as the comments have been kind of a turn off. After the last post, I debated whether I should stop posting comments altogether, but thought against it. Although, I’m probably going to post a little less now.

      • vicsoc8
        December 16, 2010

        Don’t do that! I have my last final of the semester tomorrow morning, so that means I can post like the rabid fan I am very soon, and it wouldn’t be the same without you!

        • Jnice
          December 16, 2010

          I second vicsoc. You are my fav, Kari.

      • outerspacedout
        December 17, 2010

        When I first started commenting here this blog felt like family, but yeah recently with the overall bitterness- mostly after the Qatar WC announcement- and all the stuff Vicsoc said has kinda changed my feelings about it, somehow it doesn’t feel as much like family ish anymore.

        It’ll be nice when all that blows over and we go back to before, cos this was a really, really quality blog.

        Kari: Don’t leave the forums! You’re one of my favorites here!

        The Kevin thing- Kevin is a fantastic writer and I can understand getting pissed sometimes, mod or not, and I look forward to him coming back and hopefully we give Espanyol such a wonderful battering this weekend that Kevin just feels the need to HAVE to write a match review about it.

  55. GREECE BARCA
    December 16, 2010

    I must apologize to kxevin and all here.I am sorry for my comment.It sounds like a personal attack.The fact is i disagree with kxevin in specific subjects.But again it was my mistake.I feel what i say now,i am not try to be nice.

  56. Auld Super
    December 16, 2010

    20 years ago today since the Pepster made his debut for the first team. I fear nobody but agree with whoever wrote recently that AC Milan would be a good game for us as they are average at best at the moment and it would be nice to put Zlatan back in his box for the blasphemy against the mighty Pep.

    • Auld Super
      December 16, 2010

      Love the ads too by the way.

  57. Kari
    December 16, 2010

    @vicsoc

    Agreed.

    Recently, the blog has changed a bit. The tone of some of the posts as well as the comments have been kind of a turn off. After the last post, I debated whether I should stop posting comments altogether, but thought against it. Although, I’m probably going to post a little less now.

    And it’s not because this is the second time my comment has been in moderation. (I saw the Kangaroo Boots by the way blitzen. That is so awesome–I want one! Maybe I’ll get it during the holidays…)

  58. Jim
    December 16, 2010

    Guys c,mon. We’re all grown up here and we all lose it at times. So we post and apologise and move on. Tbh, Kxevin, a break is no bad idea. Imagine being able to watch and rewatch a Barca game on that huge TV of yours without the pressure of having to comment in the liveblog or write a review immediately afterwards. You could enjoy this unique moment in Barca’s history.

    However, that’s not gonna happen because we need our reviews ! What am I gonna do if we get a new reviewer and he gives Abidal a 3 and Villa a 9? I’ve nowhere to go. We might all come under pressure to write reviews and show ourselves up when compared with your crafted pieces.

    Finally, i think we’ve all got to remember that Greece Barca is writing in a language which isn’t his main one. As such nuances are lost and things tend to be stated more bluntly than you maybe intend.

    Just as, although Kxevin and Isaiah are probably mortified, those two posts are classics and will live on in this blog to be alluded to whenever we feel a little low 🙂

  59. Auld Super
    December 16, 2010

    Whats all this, your comment is awaiting moderation stuff about ? And whats the CAPTCHA Code about ? Whats going on ?

  60. IS
    December 16, 2010

    Completely agree. My reasons for following and contributing here are pretty much identical to those above and the thing I cherish most about this space is the community – writers and commenters.

    In my mind, this blog has etched its place in the blogosphere as the premiere Barca blog. While most other blogs are focused on the delivery of news/rumors, this special place of ours is one of the few (if not, only) hubs of respectful, intellectual discussion where members of the community generally display an extraordinary level of maturity, tolerance and understanding.

    That is by far the hardest thing to maintain in such a passion filled environment where new issues and new members are cropping up on a daily (hourly) basis. I also believe that the general vibe of this space – which we are all responsible for – is a key reason as to why we’re not regularly faced with the Boixos Nois of the blogging world (ie. the rude, angry, intimidating, etc). Reading any other fan blog – be it a Barca, EE, EPL, Serie A or whatever blog – makes the differences abundantly clear.

    So, I’d like to suggest that we cherish this space just as we do our team, because both of them truly are precious.

    And Kxev, I, like everyone else, will be eagerly awaiting your return. A couple days off (or less?) are, if nothing else, a well earned mental break after these past few weeks.

    • IS
      December 16, 2010

      Hmmm “Awaiting moderation” – I’m not entirely sure if this^ was
      posted as a response to Vicsoc8’s comment. Hope it was…

  61. Miguel
    December 16, 2010

    my caps button is poppin’ & lockin’…

    “Tw Pique: ‘I’m driving home… I like to put on the radio and listen to the derby talk! I feel people look forward to a good game!'” -barcastuffagain

    gerard is such an egomaniac. i love it! tis what twitter’s for, though, i guess.

    • blitzen
      December 16, 2010

      Tweeting and driving? That’s so dangerous, Pique! What if you crash and sprain your typing thumbs?

      • outerspacedout
        December 17, 2010

        Sprained thumbs? OOoooooooooohhhhhhhh!!!!!

  62. Lev
    December 16, 2010

    back to the original comment I too believe it is shocking that we will have a $50 yearly transfer budget…Would have very much preferred to use that budget to clear up our debts than our shirt…Heartbreaking, really.

  63. vicsoc8
    December 16, 2010

    My take on this news is: we don’t need 50 million worth of signings next summer.

    With the team we have and some moderately intelligent investing, we should be able to get away with 10-20 million in signings for the next five years.

  64. Tom_Johnson
    December 16, 2010

    Some observations:
    -whoever writes under “Kxevin” was absolutely wrong (not sure unprofessional is appropriate due to the nature of this blog) to introduce words like ‘shit’ and ‘stupid’ to these pages

    -being a moderator makes it that much worse. However, it can happen to any of us and the apology was a very good step in the right direction.

    -He (kexevin) was genuinely excited (like the most of us were) at the time of Zlatan’s signing but, more importantly, he (kxevin) had strong support for him when his performances dropped and Guardiola moved him to the bench. The general sentiment was that kxevin (and the likes) were very sure that Zlatan will not only stay but perform so much better with season under his belt. Could it be that the author has a hard time admitting misjudgment so much that when it is brought up it creates a passionate reaction?

    -The “debt” (or the interpretation of it by rosell’s team) is not nearly as dramatic especially when compared to the other clubs of similar stature and on-field success. The cash flow is what matters so much more short-term.

    • vicsoc8
      December 16, 2010

      @ Tom_Johnson (in case this doesn’t work as a reply)

      Everyone is human. Sure Kxevin was a bit out of line, but I don’t think this incident really had anything to do with him being insecure about a “personal misjudgement.” Rather, I think it was a knee-jerk response to whether or not Kxevin was right or wrong about Ibra.

      The issue at hand is more that Kxevin expressed his displeasure on the selling of the shirt, and he the response he got was an attack on his judgement which frankly had absolutely nothing to do with the current conversation. Bringing up where Kxevin stood on the Ibra signing really has no relevance to the discussion of the selling of the shirt. The way the comment was presented made me say “ok, theres an attack for no reason.”

      So, no, I don’t think this had anything whatsoever to do with Kxevin being insecure about his position on Ibra or his position on anything else. Rather, it was a response to a comment that attacked him about something completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

      It’s like you saying “I think Man Utd. will win the Premier League this season” and me responding “Well, you also think that Anderson is a better player than Xavi.”

      • Tom_Johnson
        December 16, 2010

        @viscoc8 (yeah, the reply might skip sometime)

        By no means am I qualified to say with a 100% certainty what is in someone else’s head (consciously or subconsciously). I merely suggested an option to consider.

        “Bringing up where Kxevin stood on the Ibra signing really has no relevance to the discussion of the selling of the shirt.”

        It can be relevant if you are trying to establish credibility or the expertise. If somebody has made misjudgments in the past, it is valid to suggest that he/she is “highly likely” be wrong again (on the issue at hand). If he/she was wrong trying to guess an outcome or had overlooked the relevant facts for the previous analysis, now that we have another situation his/her analysis might be distorted again drawing wrong conclusions.

        • vicsoc8
          December 16, 2010

          Fair enough. I’m of the opinion that Kxevin’s response was precipitated by the tone taken against him, but like you said I can’t be certain what he was thinking.

          Bringing up examples that put into doubt a person’s credibility is certainly a way to win an argument in the court of law, but if that is how arguments are going to be conducted here then I won’t be posting anymore.

          Either way, probably best to let it lie now.

  65. December 16, 2010

    I realise that this isn’t the topic of discussion at the moment, but since the CL draw is tomorrow, and the only post on this about a week old, I hope it’s okay that I post this here:

    “Oh yeah. Just a quick perusal of even the ESPN boards will tell you that. Like you say, all clubs, particularly big clubs, will have a large distribution of fans of every attitude and maturity. To paint fans of a global club as anything other than a diverse and heterogeneous mass is just dumb.”

    Truer words by Jose have never been spoken. All clubs have daft fans. I’m really looking forward to the draw and I hope we get you guys. As much as I despise some of the things that happened over the summer, I understand why they did, and while I’m sure you think it’s just an excuse, I’d love to see how a fully fit (or almost fully fit) Arsenal team would do against you guys, our injury problems last year made the CL a real bummer.

    I do believe you have the stronger team, but I believe that on our day we can beat you. I have to admit I don’t like most of the Barca team, but I love the way you play, and how can you not like Messi and Pep? Failing you, I hope we draw Real, just so I can see the look on Mourinho’s face when his team is plastered again.

    • barca96
      December 16, 2010

      Yeah.
      I really don’t like how some Barca fans(not on this blog) were taunting Arsenal last season. Many of you players were injured and we were near our best 11.
      So it wasn’t that fair but so wasn’t our match against Inter. That’s life.

    • Ryan
      December 16, 2010

      It indeed would be great to see both sides at their best playing each other. We’ve been fortunate with injuries this year, so hopefully you guys catch a break as well.

      Be aware though that most of the English magazine interviews involving Barcelona players were fabricated, in case that is why you don’t like most of the Barca team.

      • December 16, 2010

        It’s so complicated, I really dug the Barca team until the summer of Cesc, and I do understand WHY a lot of them would want to see Barca back, and why Cesc would want to go back, but what happened with the Barca shirt during the World Cup celebrations kind of tipped me over the edge.

        That said, the win against Real came some way to making up for it, I was PRAYING for even more goals (it could have been).

    • blitzen
      December 16, 2010

      Well, Shobo, I hope we don’t get Arsenal in the draw because I am also a bit of an Arsenal fan and would prefer to beat you later rather than sooner. 😀

      I’m sorry Cesc is still not 100% fit because I think he is a great player. I’m in the minority in this blog in hoping that he’ll still end up at Barca, but I completely understand why you don’t want to lose him.

      And I hope that you realize that a LOT of those so-called “interviews” with Barcelona players that showed up in the British press over the summer and invariably contained a quote about Cesc were completely made up. FC Barcelona even released a statement about them not long ago.

      Cheers and good luck to your club.

  66. barca96
    December 16, 2010

    In a perfect world I would rather have them spending max. US20-25million and keep the rest for the player’s salaries increment’s & to slowly pay off debts but I don’t think that’s possible as we always need to improve since the competition is getting stronger & stronger.
    Like someone mentioned earlier, our bench players alone wouldn’t make a bad team, but it is definitely not enough for us to win the league.

    Anyways, I do think that we need to get a striker, a Plan B striker.
    No need for a star striker, just a tall & strong player who doesn’t mind sitting on the bench.
    We are well covered on all the other areas.
    Just a secondary #9.

    Kxevin,
    It’s ok for you to take a rest. It’s well deserved.
    I guess it’s a blessing in disguise( Greece Barca”s comments) 🙂

  67. barca96
    December 16, 2010

    When will the winter break start btw?
    I fear that it’s nearing.
    I’m already downloading old matches now to keep myself busy and entertained during that period.

    See Kxevin, another good reason for you to rest;
    Winter break!

    • vicsoc8
      December 16, 2010

      Winter break begins after our Tuesday game against Athletic Bilbao (Copa Del Rey).

      Play resumes January 2, so we will only be without Barca for two weeks.

      • Auld Super
        December 17, 2010

        January 8th isn’t so bad as I tend to be drunk from about the 25th to the 1st of January anyway. It will be nice to have a game to cheer me up after the christmas drinking binge.

        • blitzen
          December 17, 2010

          Don’t forget, the Catalan national team is playing their game on December 28th against….um…can’t remember. It will be fun, anyway.

  68. vicsoc8
    December 16, 2010

    I’m going to disagree. I really am hoping we don’t draw Arsenal, although they are mainly personal reasons. My brother is an Arsenal fan and they are my favorite Premier League team to watch, and so I hope they go far in the tournament.

    To not sound arrogant, I’ll just say I’d like to see both Arsenal and Barcelona move beyond the Round of 16, and therefore I don’t want to draw Arsenal.

    • soccermomof4
      December 16, 2010

      They are my favorite EPL team too. But they were so incredibly inept on Monday and I’m not ready to forgive them yet (I live with a Man U fan and a Chelsea fan (son and hubby respectively) so there’s an embarrassment factor for me to overcome).

      As for the Kxevin/ Greece Barca thing—time to move on folks. Things got out of hand for a BRIEF time and apologies have already been made.

      Don’t rest too long Kxevin. There’s an important game coming and we need you.

      • vicsoc8
        December 16, 2010

        You’re a better person than I am, I could never marry a Chelski fan.

        • soccermomof4
          December 16, 2010

          But he loves Barca. Barca is everybody’s favorite team in the house. We watch some EPL to pass away the rest of the time and the three of us gravitated to different teams. Daughter’s favorite EPL team is Liverpool but that has very little to do with football and a lot to do with Torres (um…teenager!). Other two kids don’t care much.

          Besides, we were married for almost 20 years before we know Chelsea existed.

          • vicsoc8
            December 16, 2010

            Don’t get me wrong, my comment was meant more as a reflection on the craziness of my family when it comes to football. My brother is an Arsenal fan, my dad is a Man United fan, and all three of us feel sorry for Liverpool.

            However, we all hate Chelsea with a passion. I’m pretty sure if my mom started supporting Chelsea my dad would consider it suitable grounds for divorce.

  69. ooga aga
    December 16, 2010

    tomorrow, a preview del derbi? looking forward to it. 7-0-0 at home vs 7-0-0 on the road. somethings gotta give. might we get some eulerian analysis on why/how espanyol are in the CL spots? i know they have like 5 kids from La Masia…

  70. ooga aga
    December 16, 2010

    we will draw roma. i dont care who we draw, im just saying, that is who we will draw. my prediction.

    • Jnice
      December 16, 2010

      I’ve learned not to go against your predictions.

      What do you predict the score will be this Saturday against Espanyol? I fear a draw…

  71. barca96
    December 16, 2010

    Cruyff criticized Messi because he doesn’t speak English: “He’s the best player of the world but he can’t speak with half of it.”

    What do you guys make of it?
    I think it’s really disrespectful and completely unnecessary of Cruyff to say it in public but the old man is right. But please say it to him in private or at least through Pep.

    • Koller
      December 16, 2010

      He doesn’t need to speak English. As long as he can comfortably speak the language that is most commonly used in the country he lives in, there is no problem.

      I also don’t think this was criticism, probably was just a joke.

    • mei
      December 16, 2010

      Cruyff is a barca legend , but simply comments on many things he should keep his distance from.
      Stay away from subjects like history , economics etc if you dont have enough knowledge to support your claims, or if your claims are really ridiculous like this one.
      Messi is a footballer , not a spokesperson.
      He doenst need to speak a widespread language to be able to reach to people , like artists , he speaks through his art.

    • Jnice
      December 16, 2010

      Yeah, I don’t know if Cruyff was being that serious, but if he was, then shame on him.

  72. Tom_Johnson
    December 16, 2010

    “Stay away from subjects like history , economics etc if you dont have enough knowledge to support your claims”

    And what exactly have you based on the conclusion that Mr. Cruyff lacks knowledge in regard to these topics?

    For some reason, quite a few (internet) fans have attached some sort of offensive tone to Mr. Cruyff’s statements of late. That was simply not the case. Perhaps the moderators should start adding a disclaimer about the “tone” Mr. Cruyff used while making a statement to help an average fan put things into context.

    What the Dutchman was trying to say is that Messi is becoming a “global icon” reaching a far greater number of people in process. With that kind of attention come certain responsibilities. It would be very helpful for the club if Messi can project a more positive, more sophisticated message about FCB and allow more people to relate easier to him (and the club).

    The same goes for Mr. Cruyff “conflicting” himself few days ago. He merely suggested that $150M+ will make less of a difference now than it would back in 2003-05. He also made it clear (only to some of us apparently) that he is not against the deal per se rather that the management should have done more to explore some other venues for increasing the revenue before picking an easy solution.

    • vicsoc8
      December 16, 2010

      I couldn’t understand why people were so adamant that Cruyff was contradicting himself on the shirt deal either.

      The context of the deal is a lot different than it would have been in 2005. The club is in a completely different place, and that makes a difference on how you approach a situation.

      Also, that was 5 years ago. Are people not allowed to change their mind in five years?

      • barca96
        December 16, 2010

        Like I said, I agree with Cruyff but he shouldn’t have said it to a journalist( some Catalan paper). He should’ve adviced Messi personally or through Pep.

        About Cruyff’s comments on the shirt, I would really love to believe that his dislike for Rosell didn’t play a factor in his criticism but I really doubt it.
        I really love the man as my whole family(especially my Dad) but I really doubt him on this one for once.

        • vicsoc8
          December 16, 2010

          I actually think you’re right… but I for one can’t blame Cruyff for disliking Rosell. Rosell has treated him very poorly – stripping of his honorary presidency without even letting the assembly discuss it/vote on it, and generally trying to distance trying to distance the club from Cruyff (which in my opinion is due to the fact that Laporta relied heavily on Cruyff’s advice, and Rosell’s hatred of Laporta is fueling his poor treatment of Cruyff).

          Whether Cruyff’s comments have been influenced by Rosell or not, I still find some of his arguments and comments extremely compelling.

          • Tom_Johnson
            December 16, 2010

            To me, it is not so much a personal thing (rosell vs cruyff) as is the widely accepted level of respect and way of doing things.

            The whole Honorary President issue could have been handled with a lot less attention being drawn to it. It would render the same result (cruyff being stripped due to the violation of the statute) without bruising any egos and fueling future feuds.

            My main beef is with the way Rosell’s team presented the financial situation the club is currently in. Anyone with a decent background in finance and accounting has to feel that his/her intelligence has been insulted. It is very much a bs.

            Although Laporta had some questionable personal expenses (last year of presidency syndrome I guess) the income statement and balance sheet were comprised by the certified accounting firm. If the data is truly false (it is not since there is a lot of gray area in the accounting practices left to free interpretation/estimates) why is that only Laporta is accused of wrongdoing and not the accounting firm too?

        • Tom_Johnson
          December 16, 2010

          I can see how the ‘public announcement’ as opposed to more subtle suggestion can rub some people the wrong way.

          But I don’t think the issue is that sensitive at all. It is not some private matter where the emotions are involved or someone’s credibility is being questioned. He simply suggested the way Messi can improve on. It is no different than suggesting him to use his right foot more and hit the free-kicks with more power rather than spin.

          I highly doubt Mr. Cruyff has any problems saying it to Messi’s face. Come to think of it, he probably already did it before the article was published.

          • barca96
            December 17, 2010

            It’s not really a big deal Tom but the thing is, nowadays, something innocent like that can be interpreted as an internal problem by some media and we don’t need these unnecessary things.
            Btw,
            you should comment more Tom.

  73. Ethan
    December 16, 2010

    *http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/5925495/2022-world-cup-winter-possible-fifa-officials-say

    World Cup In Winter……riiiiiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhhhtttttt

    • barca96
      December 16, 2010

      I would love for the World Cup in Qatar to be staged during winter.
      That would be perfect. The conditions during winter in the Gulf is perfect for footballing conditions.
      However, it will require some major re-scheduelling of the football calender to have it staged in the middle of the European season.
      They(FIFA) should’ve thought about all that before voting. Idiots!!

  74. blitzen
    December 16, 2010

    UK footie site The Spoiler is asking the question, “Who is more important for Barcelona, Xavi or Iniesta?”

    *http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/2010/12/16/whos-more-important-to-barca-xavi-or-iniesta

    Well?

    • Jnice
      December 16, 2010

      I’d say Xavi.

      Iniesta is very important too in that last season if he was healthy, I think we would’ve been in the CL finals. And when fully healthy and in form like he is this season, he gives us an extra dimension.

      But Xavi is Xavi, 120 passes in 67 minutes? Come on.

      • blitzen
        December 16, 2010

        Right now, I would have to agree. Iniesta is a more flexible, complete player, able to play in different positions, and IMO has more raw natural talent. But Xavi–no one can do what do what Xavi does right now. No one comes even close. The entire Barca game hinges on him, and when he isn’t on the field it is obvious in a way it isn’t when Iniesta is on the bench.

  75. soccermomof4
    December 16, 2010

    Xavi definately! But they are two different types of midfielders.

    That being said Xavieniesta>>>>>> Xavi + Iniesta.
    The sum is greater than the parts.

  76. jaymin
    December 17, 2010

    don’t get too reflective. the level of discourse on this blog amongst fans and occasional lurkers is honestly tops in english i have found, and for an iberian team? impressive lot you guys, very genial and intelligent topics. i think it’s because more of you are americans, and therefore unspoilt of mind by the tribal fealty to the so called mythology of the particular european team(s) you support. level of distance that makes the conversations less throaty, and no knives or pigs’ heads.

    anyway, please don’t break cesc’s leg again. good night.

    • outerspacedout
      December 17, 2010

      Only some of the people- though admittedly most of the writers- are American; we have commenters from all over the world. Personally I’m Maldivian and we have people from India, Greece, Spain, Malaysia etc from the people who did say their home countries that I remember

  77. HY
    December 17, 2010

    Messi is a son, brother, boyfriend, uncle, nephew, friend, teammate, footballer (club and country), goodwill ambassador, children’s advocate, etc. before he is someone’s ideal of “the world’s best player”. He already has too many obligations to fulfill and expectations to live up to. Unless he lived in a native English-speaking environment, he won’t learn it because he simply doesn’t have the time (right now). In the long haul, it would benefit him to pick it up, especially if he wants to become a coach one day. Yikes. It hurts to even think about Messi’s retirement…

  78. jaymin
    December 17, 2010

    messi should learn english, because then he could displace kobe as the world’s most recognized and admired athlete. he is a patriotic argentine however, and i would not be at all surprised if his insistence to adhere exclusively to his motherland’s tongue was due in significant proportion to his parents’ indignation, which would have been raw during his youth, at the Malvinas/Falklands dispute, and their attribution of blame to baroness thatcher rather than that dipshit midget galtieri.

    • HY
      December 17, 2010

      I believe Messi has taken English lessons before, but they didn’t seem to improve his English much. It seems that he’s even shy to speak Catalan, though he clearly understands it.

      Why can’t Messi and Kobe be the most recognized and admired athleteS in the world? They certainly have enough admiration for each other. (If it isn’t obvious, I’m a huge Kobe fan.)

      • jaymin
        December 17, 2010

        assuredly true that they do my friend. the problem is that people of my persuasion (indians), and other asians, are geared towards preferentially regarding english language figures. we are colonized by england, and our attention goes there.

        to a desi, someone speaking spanish is an alien. an english speaker however we have been conditioned to expect and accept. we all speak english alongside our native tongues, and hindi. it is a part of who we are, and given how the 2010 Finals MVP was greeted in Beijing by the fans in 2008, we are not unique in asia. we indians like our heroes to speak: hindi, gujarati(the mahatma), or english. como se dice en espanol? mi no hablo:
        *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-qKboHKPEA

        • jaymin
          December 17, 2010

          also, just for the hell of it. this will be replayed next year.
          *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfaxusuEIcI

          i lost 500 USD on this game, and i was happier to do so than i have ever been in my life. revenge! vujacich will be missed.

          • barca96
            December 17, 2010

            He is too shy( which is so cute! ) to speak Catalan which he learned for 10 years already, I can’t imagine him attempting to speak English to the media 😆

          • HY
            December 17, 2010

            I lost my voice the next day, so I guess we’re both happy casualties.

      • blitzen
        December 17, 2010

        Messi taped a little tribute to Xavi in Catalan that was played at the recent ceremony where Xavi won the award for Catalan Sports Figure of the Year. It was very sweet.

    • Jnice
      December 17, 2010

      Messi spoke about wanting to take English lessons, but I don’t think he has yet.

      He understands Catalan perfectly and can speak it, but says he is too shy to, so I doubt we will see him speaking English anytime soon.

    • Vj
      December 17, 2010

      Kobe? Really? Tiger was undisputed until the truth came out but I don’t think Kobe might be no.1..

      As far as popularity goes, David Beckham may still rule the roost, followed by Federer, Messi, Thong Boy, Nadal and so on..

      Not many people would pick out Kobe in a lineup (if it were possible), Spice Boy would easily get picked out by most of the people in the world..

      I doubt Gujarati is a preference for us as far as choosing heroes are concerned, Mahatma did most of his public speaking in Hindi I think (I may be wrong).

      Lastly, if you care about Cesc’s legs so much, why not hire some decent medical staff.. Put that record profit to some use.. 😛

      • jaymin
        December 17, 2010

        our unknown shareholders who evidently do not take dividends are reluctant to issue us transfer cash, trusting us to live on the cheap while they hobknob with billionaire sex traffickers in west london. j/k. i don’t think we can use our cash tho…

        liger? he was a curiosity, now, well…

        mahatma spoke mostly in hindi, i speak mostly in english. we are both gujarati. the rest of india doesn’t like it, or us, but they will accept it. and learn our language! or learn arabic…

        and as for cesc’s legs, well, the best argument for him returning to you lot is they could use a tan. and if barca played stoke or wolves week in, week out, iniesta would be crippled, and messi would be dead. thank god they don’t.

        • Vj
          December 17, 2010

          If you wanna see how we fare against tough physical teams, the derby is a perfect example..

        • Vj
          December 17, 2010

          Oh I forgot to mention I love Gujju’s and Gujarati.. I’m living in my Gujju friend’s room in the hostel as we speak.. He’s kind enough to let me stay there.. One has to say, you guys a one tightly knit community..

          • jaymin
            December 18, 2010

            yeah i know we come across quite aggressively dense sometimes, and i apologize to you if i did.

  79. K(legit)
    December 17, 2010

    Man reports says Il Talentino Antonio Cassano has just agreed to join Milan
    Damn!

    • Vj
      December 17, 2010

      Il Talentino? More like Mr.Sex and Pastries

  80. Jnice
    December 17, 2010

    Stream for the CL draw starting in 3 minutes: *http://video.uefa.com/video/Competitions/UCL/Season=2011/liveDraw_videoFlash.html

  81. Lev
    December 17, 2010

    yes arsenal it is. that should be fun.

  82. Ryan
    December 17, 2010

    Well, it looks like we face off against Arsenal yet again!

    And the EE get to try their luck again vs. Lyon.

    And Bayern play Inter as well…dejavu all over the place!

  83. Soy Culé
    December 17, 2010

    When will UEFA stop giving Lyon the easy draws? :D:D:D

  84. y2k156
    December 17, 2010

    arsenal again. bring on the cesc brigade. i hope this time trolling is bit less.

    considering the captcha, it might be though:).

  85. yoyoma
    December 17, 2010

    I didn’t want arsenal, now I feel sorry for them. Barca will win this. EE vs Lyon that should be fun.

  86. Lev
    December 17, 2010

    don’t feel sorry for them. they were 3 for 3 in the group stages, +12 goal difference, yet managed to end 2nd…the team has been lacking some serious balls for some time now

  87. sheena
    December 17, 2010

    I’m kind of glad we didn’t get either of the Milans. Call me a coward, but I wouldn’t have wanted to face them. At least not yet.

  88. Lev
    December 17, 2010

    Do you guys realize we are the only team to have beaten Arsenal in the last 10 years that didn’t cause Wenger to blame the pitch / referee / diving / rough play / weather / hotel room / injuries / butterfly in Tokyo ?

    I hope we’re gonna go Playstation on them again!

    • IS
      December 17, 2010

      Apparently Wenger even expected (and for some odd reason, wanted) to get us in the CL draw… something which, as an Arsenal fan, I can hardly understand.

  89. Vj
    December 17, 2010

    Cue the Gooner invasion..

    Hopefully this time it won’t be too bad considering they’ll have to deal with the Captcha first 😛

  90. mei
    December 17, 2010

    Arsenal? well that demands a kxevin post.

  91. Helge
    December 17, 2010

    Oh yeah, this will be fun! 😀

    I definitely prefer facing Arsenal over Inter or Milan. Arsenal is the big matches flop team of the last years, they are neither defensive nor aggressive, prepare for two further glorious football masterpieces!
    I am anticipating this match soo eagerly, hope time passes fast 🙂

  92. Extreme barca fan
    December 17, 2010

    Hi all
    Can anyone tell me when was the last time that arsenal beat us in a competitive game???

  93. December 17, 2010

    Arsenal! wow! I am happy and I am not, because we can’t beat the Milanese teams! Oh wait, then I wanna beat Arsenal too! Can they all come at once so that we can beat them all???

    It’s not gonna be too complicated, we’d shown them how this game is played and Wenger won’t have a clue what to do once more. They should consider themselves lucky because they get training from us 2 years in a row. They should improve by a lot now. But looking at their performance against United, I don’t think they stand the least bit of chance to beat us.

    They won’t troll this year, they have zero bragging right in front of us now.

    • Auld Super
      December 17, 2010

      Couldn’t agree more cliveee, and i’ll use that line about the training too, i’ll use it good.

  94. Nick
    December 17, 2010

    I had a feeling we were going to get them.

  95. Goo
    December 17, 2010

    Maybe this time Cesc can play at the Camp Nou? The never-ending transfer drama continues.

    Other than our match with Arsenal, I also wanna see Inter-Bayern, Milan-Tottenham, and of course, Lyon beating EE. But then again that would ruin my dream Barca-EE CL final.

    • Lev
      December 17, 2010

      uuuuuh call me a chicken but I do not want to face EE in the CL final…rather not face them in the CL at all to be honest

      • sheena
        December 17, 2010

        Agreed, Lev. The only way they could properly get revenge on us for the manita is by booting us out of the CL. And we all know that Mourinho knows how to do that.

      • Helge
        December 17, 2010

        Signed. I also have a lot more respect for Real Madrid in the CL than la Liga.
        I think Lyon will lose to EE this time, also Spurs could be slight favourites against AC Milan (since Bale and Lennon can simply run past the whole defense of Milan^^).

  96. Auld Super
    December 17, 2010

    You’re right Lev because mourinho would use his negative bullshit tactics again and try to stifle us and nick a goal. The only difference is I don’t think he has the players to do it now and the madrid fans would go mental if they were made watch that kind of super negative football.

    On Ares0 it will be an easy win because god love them they will try to play a bit of football against the team that are setting new standards in football every week now and we will destroy them. Already have three 100 euro bets on with friends that we will win by at least three over the two legs, easy money.

    Verdict, I am happy, very happy.

    • Helge
      December 17, 2010

      haha, just 90min after the draw you’ve already put 300 euros on Barca? How much will it be in 2 months?
      I suppose your friends are all die-hard Arsenal fans but somehow didn’t see the ManUtd-Arsenal match, right? 🙂
      Or they saw it through rainbow-coloured eyeglasses…

      • Auld Super
        December 17, 2010

        Die hards all the way, they genuinely believe they will win but thats what being a fan is all about I suppose. The number I will bet ( and win ) is in direct proportion to the amount of stupid arse0 fans I come across.

  97. December 17, 2010

    I am anticipating FCK to trash Chelsea in one of those legs. People underrate this black horse and we know very well they could cause the biggest upset.

  98. Josep
    December 17, 2010

    I break my week long not posting(re: vicsoc’s post) to share the Arsenal joy. But lets not brag, the matches still have to be played.

    I’d love an EE-Us CL Final just like I’d love a Cubs-Sox series. I’d love it if we win, and I’d hide under a rock if we lost.

    If we beat EE at the end of the season in the league, I’d be scared to face them in the CL. We could go 2-1 against them in the year but the press would claim Mourinho was a mastermind, genious, big game winner, etc. I’d much love Lyon to knock them out again 😀

    • Lev
      December 17, 2010

      a loss against EE in the CL is also the only thing that could negate our Manita…

  99. Auld Super
    December 17, 2010

    Whats this manita stuff about ? Like I said before my girlfriends surname is Manita.

    • soccermomof4
      December 17, 2010

      My understanding is that a manita (little hand) is a term used in Spanish football for winning 5-0 (five finger=five goals).

  100. just sayin'
    December 17, 2010

    I don’t see what Greece Barca did wrong? As per the guidelines, he didn’t use foul language, or slurs, no solicitation or thread spamming. The only thing I can gather would be that Kxevin felt he explicitly had intentions of provoking other commenters or the writers of FCBlog. Which is very subjective and personally I think it would be a jump.
    I understand that anyone can have a bad day and that Kxevin does this for the love of Barca and not because he gets paid or he owes us anything, however I come here because Kxevin is a major part of this blog and I enjoy his reviews and I’m hoping that he does the right thing by this blog and comes back with an Espanol review.

  101. Auld Super
    December 17, 2010

    I think Kxevin is just a tad quick tempered and really stands by his journalistic integrity. I remember a while back I pointed out that he seemed to have a fondness for Henry and got a terrible rollicking too but what about it ? Hope he comes back soon too.

    • just sayin'
      December 17, 2010

      But, what we are discussing are not facts that can be disputed or found true or false, … it’s people’s opinions. I applaud Kxevin’s enthusiasm for the team and his opinions of the players but I thought the reason for this blog is to discuss opinions and if they differ, it’s an opportunity to flesh out your argument?

  102. Auld Super
    December 17, 2010

    Yes you can make your argument and state your opinion but the problem arises when you try to tell kxevin what his opinion or views on a player or subject is, if that makes sense. In fairness that would wind up a bishop.

  103. Jim
    December 17, 2010

    I’m not sure. I think if you said to Iniesta go out and be Xavi I’m sure he could. I can’t see what skill he doesn’t have. I watched him play against Scotland at Hampden and he was Xavi. They are both priceless.

    Still think Xavi should win the Ballon d’Or.

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