It’s official: The shirt is sold, aka “Color me disgusted!” (UPDATE)

Who knew that Sandro RoSELL would live up to his name so quickly? Euler has laid out all the basics in his excellent post below this one.

Javier Faus, economic head of the club, has said that the whoring ou …. sale is necessary for financial reasons. This makes perfect sense to me, given that the club has a 50m transfer budget this summer and subsequent summers, and the deal is worth a darn sight less than that per annum, at north of 30m.

In its 111-year history, the club has NEVER featured a full-time paying sponsor on its shirt. Until 2006, it didn’t have anything on the front, until a sponsorship agreement with UNICEF brought that international brand to the front of our shirt, a privilege that we paid for.

Until now.

Hellloooo, Qatar Foundation! We’ve gone from paying 1.5m per annum to UNICEF for the logo (through the FC Barcelona Foundation) to being paid. Tidy profit, I’d say.

But what’s the real cost of this sale?

For this cule and soci, the real cost is incalculable. Essentially, we sold out 111 years of tradition for about 1m per year. FC Barcelona is owned by its members, the socis. This structure was part of the pride that came with not needing to have a shirt sponsor. We can do this thing ourselves, world. So get lost. Leave the posh airlines, betting companies and financial firms to other clubs.

In the club’s recent salad days, this has been even more true, as seven graduates of the FC Barcelona Masia, or farm system, started in the Champions League final in which we defeated Manchester United. Seven grads were also in the starting XI that destroyed the Evil Empire with a still tear-inducing manita. We don’t even need to buy that many players. We can do it ourselves.

Until now. Now, we are available to the highest bidder. For me, the club couching its vile decision in “Well, it’s the right sponsor, you know,” is like a whore saying “I don’t do business with bad men.” It makes you no less of a whore. Perhaps Pep Guardiola’s celebrity status as part of the successful Qatar World Cup bid should have been a clue. Perhaps not. He could have just been being nice after all, right? Right?

Mind you, this isn’t the first time that shirt sponsorship has come up. Most recently, a deal to feature (for almost $25m) the Beijing Olympics/2010 Asian games was proffered, but struck down by the assembly, a supergroup of delegates who convene when matters essential to the club’s health and well-being need to be discussed. That was as it should be.

The club’s crest means a lot to its members, and to Catalans in particular. The Camp Nou was about the only place that being fully Catalan wasn’t illegal for too many years. There have been anti-capitalism protests in the club’s history, including when protesters stormed the pitch during a Clasic in protest of the World Trade Organization.

The club crest isn’t just a logo to be bought and sold. It’s a bright, shining symbol of a truculent people who refused to be extinguished, who are raising their heads once again in massive numbers, as Catalanisme is all the rage. The club is surging, but so is the language and culture, buttressed by the many referenda for Catalan independence. And that shirt, the FC Barcelona shirt, is part of that rich tradition of suffrage and protest.

Is that tradition worth a mil a year, a million Euros for each one of the club’s 111 years of proud history? Hell no, and even the most money-hungry supporter knows good and damned well it isn’t. We are a big club but more importantly, a big club that doesn’t need your money. We’re worth more than that. Club after club gave in to greed, and we stayed the course. Even Athletic Bilbao eventually fell by the wayside, the other proud, sponsorless shirt of a club that, not coincidentally, is Basque in origin and foundations. Yes, another batch of proud protesters who want independence.

But we stood firm, until now. Now, in a back-room deal that was snuck past the assembly and its members, the club has sold the shirt. Is this the transparency that Sandro Rosell was talking about? I suppose this is somehow Joan Laporta’s fault. After all, if he hadn’t left the club in such a dire financial predicament, we wouldn’t have had to sell the shirt, right?

If you believe that, I have a bridge for sale. Now I don’t have clear title, or even the necessary paperwork. But trust me, it can be yours, for the right price.

I would rather have gutted the transfer budget and taken some losses to get the fiscal ship right, if it was that dire. We have a passel of young Masia graduates in the club, and more that are almost ripe on the tree. So what, we don’t win everything. We retain our principles, and buy smart in the market with the approximately 17m available to Pep Guardiola each summer, and farm the rest.

People have said, and will continue to say, “Get off your high horse. It’s time our club joined the modern world. Tradition and sentiment are for the weak,” or “What’s the big deal, anyway? It’s still Barca.” Sorry, but the brand has been diluted, because just as we are mes que un club, the garment that our warriors wore was mes que un samarreta. More importantly, you’re wrong. It IS more than a shirt. So much more.

This deal is just wrong. I love this club, and will continue to support it with all of my heart. I don’t dare resign my soci membership, because I want the opportunity to be able to vote against whoever Sandro RoSELL picks as his successor, because this madness has to stop. At present, I am as disgusted. Every time I think about this, I want to weep tears of rage, frustration and sadness. We have sold out. More correctly, we have been sold out.

I have been following this club for some time, through lean years, trophyless years, glory years, more trophyless years and now this current, glorious renaissance. I have never, EVER been disgusted, until now. I can love the club because the club didn’t do this. Sandro and his Henchmen did this, sullying a 111-year tradition for a pittance. First soci limitations, and now this. What’s next? If we got that much for the shirt, what, of what, would Emirates Stadium Barcelona fetch?

Typically. it’s been reported that Rosell won’t be attending the announcement ceremony. Recall that he also abstained from the vote to pursue legal action against Joan Laporta. Dude has a history of not manning up to his decisions. Why expect him to show up and own this decision?

I leave you with an open letter from Joan Laporta, announcing the UNICEF deal. It’s worth a read, and interesting parts are in bold face:

On occasion of the Unicef deal in New York, president Joan Laporta wrote this open letter to Barcelona supporters to explain the full details.

“Barcelona fans,

With this letter I want to inform you of the agreement that today we will sign with Unicef in New York. For this five year agreement, the FC Barcelona football teams will wear the Unicef logo on their shirts from this season. On Tuesday, in the first Champions League match against Levski at the Camp Nou, the team will wear this new shirt for the first time.

The general assembly of delegate members of August 2003 authorized the Board of Directors to negotiate for a shirt sponsorship deal. The economic situation we were in when we arrived at the club obliged us to look into all the possible options available.

Fortunately, thanks to everyone’s hard work, the good economic development of the last years, sporting success, and the renewed passion of Barça fans, today the economic resource of a shirt sponsorship deal is no longer as necessary. A few months ago, the board initiated a process of internal evaluation of what the best option for shirt sponsorship deals would be.

This debate led us to agree to a different objective that would make FC Barcelona ‘more than a club’ in the world. The conclusion was that we had to put our greatest asset, our shirt, at the service of this ambitious project.

FC Barcelona is more than a club in Catalonia. It is the nation’s most representative sporting institution and one of its finest ambassadors. Also, for different reasons, FC Barcelona is more than a club for many people in the rest of Spain that have seen our club to be a firm supporter of democratic rights and liberties.

Today, football has reached a global scale. Barça support has spread spectacularly around the entire world. The number of members outside of Catalonia and Spain is growing every day. The club has to respond to this wave of global support for Barça. It is both a need and an obligation. And we believe that the most coherent way of doing this is to move towards becoming more than a club in the world as well.

The slogan more than a club is open in its definition. Maybe it is this flexibility that makes it so apt for defining the complex identity of FC Barcelona. There has always been the Barça that plays every Sunday and every Wednesday, and the Barça that beats every day in the hearts of its people. The Barça of Sunday and Wednesday is already a global club. Now, we want to globalize the Barça that cares for its people, we want to globalize the Barça of civilian duty, solidarity and humanitarianism.

We have decided that the best way to do this is to associate ourselves with Unicef, the United Nations organisation that fights for the welfare of children. On the one hand, we have decided to donate 0.7% of our income to the Fundació del FC Barcelona and associate ourselves with the objectives of the United Nations. And on the other hand, we have decided to collaborate with Unicef’s humanitarian efforts by donating 1.5 million euros a year for 5 years, and putting their logo on our shirt. We are convinced that it is a very good agreement, because it makes something unique out of FC Barcelona.

We are aware of the responsibilities that this decision bestows upon us. To be more than a club in the world is something we all have to do together, and we have to do it on a daily basis. The players, the managers, the directors, the employees, the members, the supporters clubs and fans, everyone is in this together. But we are convinced that we have the capacity to do it. Because we believe that with this project we can make FC Barcelona’s universal sentiment a reality.

We hope that this project excites you and that you will make it your own. It is the most important project that we have planned for the next few years. Thank you very much for your support and confidence.

Joan Laporta i Estruch

President of FC Barcelona

P.S. Hats off to rakoczyn, whose club history goes deeper than mine, and whose memory is even better. In 1990, we struck a temporary deal with Japan Air Lines, and wore that company’s logo for two matches. We were paid 400m pesetas (about 2.4m Euros) for the front.

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222 Comments

  1. K(legit)
    December 10, 2010

    It is surprising that there are people speaking for this motion..it is an abomination for me..What next?

  2. December 10, 2010

    very well written piece, thanks for this! I feelexactly the same…

  3. December 10, 2010

    With this new green logo on the shirt roSELL turned the Blaugrana to Blaugreena. And As I mentioned in the previous post, a deal with Al capone turning the stadium to Al CapoNou sound fitting.

    Also, Kxevin, it is reSELL. Only capitalize on what worth noting.

    Yeap…we only have sarcasm to survive…

  4. sheena
    December 10, 2010

    I’m just going to go sit in a corner and weep.

  5. Victor
    December 10, 2010

    Yup, not buying anyone in the transfer period is another, and very good, option. Perhaps selling a player or two. But, who would you sell?

    I wouldn’t like selling anyone… but if worse comes to worst… I’d go with selling Jonathan Dos Santos, Maxwell or Keita.

  6. k505
    December 10, 2010

    teardrops at laporta’s letter 🙁

  7. Euler
    December 10, 2010

    It’s their personal lives I suppose but during this period while this monumental event in club history is unfolding Puyol and Pique are sending out twitters.

    Here’s a few samples from Barcastuff:

    Tweet Pique (12:41): “@cesc4official Ceeeeesc!! @Carles5puyol and I are waiting for you to say something!! Ooooooohhhh!!” [@3gerardpique]

    Tweet Cesc: “Hello friends @3gerardpique and @carles5puyol !!! You aren’t inviting me for dinner??? I send you an Oooohhhhhh!! from London.”

    Tweet Putol: “@cesc4official You know you’re invited, we miss you my friend. Kisses ooooohhh!!!!”

    We miss you. Kisses.

    I find this rather remarkable – the club is selling it’s shirt and the this is what their discussing?

    This is what the captain of the team is discussing?

    Having Cesc over for dinner. How cute.

    He’ll have a tree on his shirt which will make the logistics of dining much easier.

    • majatt
      December 10, 2010

      was also wondering about that, maybe they don’t know lol

    • K(legit)
      December 10, 2010

      Jeez are these football players or a coven of Twilight fan pre-pubescent witch wannabes?

    • Jojo
      December 10, 2010

      I believe Pep or even the 1st team are retraining from commenting on this shirt sponsor business to the public media as it may lead to rift in opinions…..

      I’m sure Proud Catalans like Puyol, Xavi and Pique are discussing this over the phone than using a source as controversial as Twitter.

    • HY
      December 10, 2010

      They probably found out a while ago. They may hate the decision as much as we do, but I doubt they would openly criticize the people who pay them.

    • starboyfudge
      December 10, 2010

      it would not be appropriate for the captain of a club to come out against the decision made by the president.. barcelona must speak with one voice in public even if its the wrong voice. Can you imagine what would have happened if Carles bashed the president in public?????!!!! the medias’ head would explode there would be controversy AS and MARCA would sensationalize it call it a scandal. the mirror and the star in london would publish lies about carles punching rosell etc etc. No you are wrong. He should not discuss this in public.. although i do hope he goes to rosell and pep in private and tells them that he hates what rosell has done.

      • Euler
        December 10, 2010

        No one suggested that he should discuss it in public. In fact, I agree with you that he shouldn’t.

        But that wasn’t the point being made.

        The point was that during this critical moment, it seems utterly frivolous for Puyol and Pique to be playing twitter “kisses” with their best friend forever Cesc.

        It seems remarkably insensitive to me.

        The reason why celebrities use twitter to message people they know isn’t to communicate – that’s just as easily done through texting or emailing.

        They use twitter because they want the public to be in on it. They want the public to know what they are doing.

        Twitter is for public consumption.

        So know Puyol and Pique don’t need to come out against this publicly.

        But there’s a thought – just be quiet for a few hours and give your best buddy Cesc a phone call rather than trying to build a public persona for the relationship of a guy who lives in London that you want to come to dinner.

        Just be quiet. That would be more respectful given what’s happened.

        But this seems like another example of how athletes can simply live in a bubble.

        • starboyfudge
          December 10, 2010

          the people suggesting mes que un club means we’ werent a business first and that adding a label on our shirts makes us into mercenaries are idiots… we were always a business first come on. I am upset at how rosell basically did this behind everyone’s back. but.. we’re broke and someone is offering us almost 40 mill a year… ??? no brainer!!!

    • blitzen
      December 10, 2010

      Don’t be ridiculous. They are football players, they have no control over this, and they are allowed to have personal lives.

  8. majatt
    December 10, 2010

    I guess the biggest issue here really is how this decision was made without going to the assembly.

      • sheena
        December 10, 2010

        From the club’s website:
        “Faus explained that on a legal level the agreement does not need the ratification of the general assembly because since 2003 the possibility of FC Barcelona carrying publicity on their shirts has been agreed. Nevertheless, he did open the door for the matter to be discussed in future assemblies.”

        Talk about utilizing a loophole.

        • IS
          December 10, 2010

          I wonder what other loopholes have been conveniently inserted into the revised club statutes that the roSELL mob prepared…

        • Eklavya
          December 11, 2010

          @blitzen: I meant the statement sheena put up, not Kxevin’s comment.

  9. rakoczyn
    December 10, 2010

    Well said, it’s a shame for me, as for cule.
    But one thing, you’ve written is false.

    “the club has NEVER featured a paying sponsor on its shirt”

    Yes, it did. It was in 1990. Barca played 2 matches with JAL (Japan Airlines) logo on shirt. We were payed about 400 mln pesetas.

    http://pilka.blox.pl/resource/koszulkizalch2.jpg

  10. December 10, 2010

    Good stuff as always Kxevin,

    No outsiders can really criticize the club for this, since it just puts you in line with everybody else. I know Arsenal sold our soul to corporate interests long ago, and it seems to be the way of the world.

    I don’t have much love for Barca after the events of this past summer, but it is a bit sad that no one can resist the urge to grab that money, apparently. For as much as I get tired of what I view to be the sanctimonious, holier-than-thou elitism of many Barca fans, I did admire Barca’s “we can do it ourselves” spirit. And I agree with you that a lot of that has just been sold to the highest bidder today.

    I guess it’s just the way the football world is going. Arsenal are reportedly in talks to possibly add Apple Computers logos to the shoulders or sleeves of our shirts. If we can get approval for that, I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before all Premiership sides go the way of other leagues and have their shirts sponsored with various things. We’ll all look like race car drivers before we know it. And now you’ve taken the first step into that world.

    I have been pretty mocking of “mes que un club” for quite a while, but surely at this point even a lot of Barca fans must admit that Barca is increasinly becoming just a club. A well-run, giant, extremely successful club, but a club nonetheless, with the same methods and interests of every other club.

    • Kxevin
      December 10, 2010

      Thanks, Thierry, and yes, it’s safe to say that the slogan has taken quite a hammering of late. “More than a club, but not for you foreigners and hey, our shirt is for sale. Thank you. Drive through.”

      Is it still “mes que un club?” I’d say it’s hanging on by a fingernail.

      I suppose that next will be deciding they don’t need those pesky socis, who can’t be fully trusted to vote the right way in an election. Let’s just get more corporate sponsors and make the members powerless.

      • December 11, 2010

        Here is the thing, I cant say look what they are doing, since my precious real madrid, or as you guys call us, EE, have done the same and worse.

        But here is what i would criticize. Whenever a player of ours tripped on his shoe laces, you have a Barca supporter coming and saying: We are more than a club, we dont trip on our shoe laces.

        This is the same as the Barca fans that came over to the blog to mock Ronaldo for his diving antics only one week later for Busquets to pull, well, I’m sure you remember. And the the sprinklers.

        We are all human aren’t we? I think this is just another reminder for Barca fans that they are human, and even if its delayed, they have done what most other clubs have.

        Now go pay extravagant amounts of money for a player that throws hissy fits every time his hair isn’t perfectly gelled so we can be even. But then again, you guys did have Bangs.

        • Vj
          December 11, 2010

          Point taken, though Busi doesn’t tryout for the Diving Championships week in week out.. Nor did Ibra throw any fits in the 09/10 season.. Maybe he got influenced by his Milan teammate Robinho a bit too early?

    • blitzen
      December 10, 2010

      I like your nickname, Thierry. Just for the record, some of us can be both Barca and Arsenal fans. 😀

  11. Ash
    December 10, 2010

    -http://www.qatarembassy.net/imgs/edu7.jpg
    Get used to this logo cuz it’s here to stay i can’t believe this will be on our shirt!

    “Is that tradition worth a mil a year, a million Euros for each one of the club’s 111 years of proud history?”
    Hey kxevin can you explain this I thought the deal was 166 million over 5 years. This isn’t about the money it’s about the significance of the sale but i didn’t understand why you said a million per year.

    • Kxevin
      December 10, 2010

      Because I’m a journalist, and I suck at math. That’s why. Besides, 1 million is more poetic than 1.5 million.

    • Ethan
      December 10, 2010

      never buying a shirt again… so sad.

      • Pedro
        December 10, 2010

        that was my first thought as well, we’ll have to see how desperate I get though. My ’09-’10 Xavi jersey is hanging in there.

        • Ethan
          December 10, 2010

          Ya my Messi number 19 jersey is starting to lose the messi and number on it. everything else though looks great, how about that lol i was lucky to purchase an henry and messi jersey with 50 year commemoration badge of the nou camp on it. so a little bummed the names and numbers are coming off so easily. and just to throw this out there, i really miss the blue jersey. I have a couple jerseys and shorts and a sweatshirt in that color and i love them and am sad to see them gone now. blah. how they get us with new jersey purchases year after year, so not fair! lol

          end rant. = D

  12. jordi(TM)
    December 10, 2010

    The letter from Jan makes me sad.Sandro doesnt have people skills like that.Where’s his statement? I forgot the cretin is hiding yet again.

  13. Auld Super
    December 10, 2010

    I said that Rosell would be the ruination of the club as we know and love it and sadly yet again I am right. He did say he would consider it when he was running for election so members can’t say they weren’t warned but this will go down as one of the worst decisions ever made in the history of this great club. The team is playing as well as I can remember it playing and this should be a great time for the club but this casts a massive shadow over all of that. It’s one of the reasons FC Barcelona were different to many of the others but now we will be a corporate whore like the others it seems, sad sad day indeed.

    PS, I think the reason the players don’t seem too bothered is because they know that the club needs new revenue and allot of it to pay their massive wages ( which I think they deserve for providing great footballing entertainment ).

    • Helge
      December 10, 2010

      I don’t think that any player deserves 10m, or even 5m. Hell, they could live a luxury life if they earned only 33% of their current wages. It has gotten out of control, and there seems no end to it, even in times of economic crisis.
      Maybe the new UEFA regulation can stop this crazyness.

  14. ooga aga
    December 10, 2010

    i will buy no shirt with a corporate logo. you’re gonna eat your shirt on this one, rosell.

    being a barca fan just got a little less fun.

  15. Eklavya
    December 10, 2010

    Who were the idiots who voted for this fool?

    And there’s still no “no confidence vote” date yet 🙁

  16. sirius
    December 10, 2010

    nobody has ever had a problem with nike on our kit before?? and they have some serious ethical practices….

    • k505
      December 10, 2010

      but nike makes our kits, so they’re entitled to their logo. they’re not paying the club for advertising, which is what makes me uncomfortable

      • sirius
        December 10, 2010

        were still allowing a company that has a history of highly unethical practices to be displayed on our prized asset, the shirt…. just sayin…. they dont have to be sponsored by nike, im sure there are other companies that could make their jerseys… Barcelona is sponsored by numerous companies, if you see the stadium you can see them all over the field.. i understand the jersey has more significance but at some point its all semantics… dont get me wrong im not particular happy about this either, but i dont know if it deserves this much hate and rebellion…

      • Helge
        December 10, 2010

        Oh, I’m sure that Nike pays for the privilege to produce our jerseys, shorts etc.
        It’s probably in the same region as shirt sponsorship.

        No football team in the world is obliged to produce their kits by adidas, Nike, Puma, Umbro / Co., but nobody chooses a non-profit fair trade clothing company. We had those MÉS shirts, but they also had the Nike emblem, right?

        • sirius
          December 10, 2010

          yes they did, this entire thing is a bit hypocritical if you ask me…

          • Miguel
            December 10, 2010

            nike’s made a huge effort to clean up their practices in the last decade or so. they’re very aware of the damage that’s done to their brand. credit where it’s due.

  17. It looks like the fear of Real Madrid is driving the club’s official policy, rather than love for the club. What happens if we don’t get this additional 30 million. We could go to the transfer market sensibly, anyways La Masia will be able to bring out more talents in the coming years.

    • sirius
      December 10, 2010

      i dont think anybody fears real madrid after we beat them 5-0 but this entire thing is getting a little out of hand…

  18. Eklavya
    December 10, 2010

    BTW, Kxevin is was Euler who wrote the last post not Luke.

  19. outerspacedout
    December 10, 2010

    I feel disgusted and horrified and I can’t enjoy our football as much now because of this (or so I feel right now at least, though maybe I’m a bit in the heat of the moment). I feel betrayed. I hate Rosell right now. Betrayed, betrayed, betrayed is what they just did to us. I’d rather we have not bought more players (and I KNOW just KNOW he’s gonna be a dick and bid for Fabregas soon again) and now it will feel like we got Fabregas or whoever else we get with whore money and I don’t want that, I don’t think I’d be able to stand the sight of a big-money signing next season knowing we could have just not made that signing and kept our integrity. I am so angry right now. I loved Barca through the worst of times in my time as a fan (I only got cable in the middle of the decade so the bad times were 2007/08) but even then I loved the club unequivocally, but nothing has ever happened that has shook my love for the club- this is the first time that love has ever been shaken, and I feel angry and betrayed and hurt and furious.

  20. Auld Super
    December 10, 2010

    Putting UNICEF on the shirt was just a way of letting people get used to seeing something on there so this wouldn’t be such a depressing shock but it didn’t work.

    Next year there will be two of them on there, and there’s talk of putting one on the back and then on the shorts too. Racing car drivers is right.

  21. soccermomof4
    December 10, 2010

    While I can’t even pretend to understand the depth of feeling y’all have about this, those of you who have been cules and socis for decades (honestly, although my kids have played this sport (some at the varsity level) for years, I never even knew this type of wonderful football was out there until the past couple of years (thanks to very good friends of ours who got us addicted)), I am upset that one of cultural distinctives that made us mes que un club (sorry, still don’t know how to do accents) has been taken away in what looks like a shady back-room deal. (terrible run-on sentence). When asked by friends (man u fans) why I liked this club, the lack of shirt sponsorship was one of the many things I could brag about.

  22. El Diez
    December 10, 2010

    How many seriously believe we will be able to maintain this success rate and all our La Masia graduates being XaviestMessis? Considering financial situation of club, Spain in general and non-competitiveness of the league, we cannot blindly criticize the situation. I personally dont like even Unicef logo, I like the one with no name only crest. But things have to change, financially it may do good for the club.

    • outerspacedout
      December 10, 2010

      I would quite honestly rather have less success than whore ourselves out like this. We’re not Real Madrid

  23. Kari
    December 10, 2010

    What the hell?! Isn’t this sort of thing the reason we have socis and assemblies?!

    I hate RoSELL with the fiery passion of one million suns. I ****** hate him so much.

    I have to buy all my shirts this year.

  24. Jose
    December 10, 2010

    First of all, this is terrible news.

    Second, I agree this is a dilution of the name and brand of FC Barcelona.

    Third, this is not the end of Mes que un club… that has always meant more than just “More than a club that sells its shirt sponsorship”. It is for what the club stands for. Today, that has been diluted, but the fact stands.

    Fourth, I am just resigned to waiting to see how it will be incorporated with the UNICEF logo. There are tasteful ways of doing this (Qatar Foundation logo + letters in yellow, about half the size of the UNICEF logo) and more distasteful ways which will serve as a constant reminder of what roSELL has done. Ugh.

    Fifth, on the Qatar Foundation itself, it is good that it’s at least an organization for a good cause (as an academic, their influence in the last few years is evident). They are willing to dish out that dosh for the credibility and name recognition that a club like Barca will give it in the future. Qatar Foundation is in the business of attracting the “best and the brightest” to its small country. This seems to be a way of building their brand to help them do that.

    Again… roSELL is cleer in sneaking this in using an NFP foundation. I just know that there is no going back. No way will in 6 years the club administration decide to forgo 30 million dollars in operating budget per year. And the door has been opened 6 years from now to gambling firms, airlines, electronics companies, and their ilk.

    And I’ll say it again, if the the Camp Nou ever becomes Camp Pizza Hut (a la Emirates Stadium), I might just throw up.

    • Jose
      December 10, 2010

      P.S. Forgot to mention one of my biggest annoyances: WHY WEREN’T THE SOCIS GIVEN A SAY, FFS!?

  25. mei
    December 10, 2010

    You should also fkin hate laporta along with rosell.
    The first one made such deal possible by removing the necessity of an authorization of the socis on such decision and the latter concluded a deal.

  26. K(legit)
    December 10, 2010

    Next on our agenda is to convert the football jersey to a NASCAR one complete with the cap.
    Come one come all

    Ok i exaggerate a bit but this has quite effectively ruined my evening..stupid Friday that destroyed my stupid mood.

  27. sirius
    December 10, 2010

    “What is clear is that Barcelona need to somehow improve their financials.”

    – swiss rambler article that everyone thinks is holy here….

  28. Victor
    December 10, 2010

    kevin’s post mentions graduates from La Massia, which is true… however, when those graduates become great players like Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, etc… they start getting big salaries as well. So, in that regard, they aren’t that different from the players Barcelona buys.

    For example, Pedro may not have a big salary… but he, most likely, is gonna become a great player… yes, he has Barcelona DNA and he loves the club, but he is gonna ask for a bigger salary… specially if other clubs start asking for him (which I think it’s gonna happen)…

    • El Diez
      December 10, 2010

      Many says our current team is one of the best ever teams and accord to some, the best ever.
      Everyone should be happy to maintain that and ( if reports are to be true) we need finance to maintain that. About high moral grounds – we do have nike as our kit sponsor 🙂 and also we are not ready to share the TV revenue make a healthy league. So we need money and we want it.

      Still hard to accept the fact that we are going to have a shirt sponsor :'(

  29. Louis
    December 10, 2010

    Can the assembly get together and vote to have a recall election? Because, that would be nice.

  30. sheena
    December 10, 2010

    Villa’s thoughts on the situation,:
    David Villa congratulated the Barça board on the agreement that has been reached with Qatar Foundation to carry the name on the shirts along with Unicef. “It is a club decision and we should not judge it, but if it is good for the club then it is good for everyone, both individually and collectively,” he said. “We are pleased with the agreement.”

    Sounds to me like he’s trying to say what is diplomatically correct.

    • Victor
      December 10, 2010

      Yep, a totally diplomatic answer.

      But I do think that he’d better not say anything at all.

      • Nick
        December 10, 2010

        Correct. Of all players, Villa should keep quiet most.

        • blitzen
          December 10, 2010

          It was his designated day for the press conference, and someone asked the question. He had no choice but to answer. Don’t be so judgy.

  31. Kari
    December 10, 2010

    Well, technically, we’re still more than a club. A football club that is. We have basketball, and handball and futsal and… yeah. #clingingtostraws

    • sheena
      December 10, 2010

      Breathe in, breathe out. Breathe in, breathe out.

      • Kari
        December 10, 2010

        Oh, I’m trying sheena, but after seeing the polls on Sport or EMD, I think I might need an oxygen tank Ray-Ray style. And not because there was a Riquelme sighting.

        • sheena
          December 10, 2010

          That was funny. Too bad laughing is the last thing I want to do right now 🙁

  32. Kari
    December 10, 2010

    At least someone tell me the Barca fans in Barcelona are breathing fire and roaring to the heavens. That might make me feel a bit better

    • cita
      December 10, 2010

      Sorry to interject in that now-a-lurker, now-not mode, but here’s an imperfect gauge:
      **http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/web/gen/20101210/encuesta_54086194731.html
      **http://www.sport.es/encuestas.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&result=0&cod_encuesta=7890&s=0

      Sometimes I do think there is a gap between international and local fans…it’s something I’ve always wanted to understand better.

      • MISSINGPAGE
        December 10, 2010

        On the other hand on yesterdays vote it was 60% NO for the sale of our shirt…and if you consider that its mostly young people you use the internet and some percent of the voters would be espaniolomadritistas i expect the actual percentage to be at least 70% No of the sale…
        Socis and fans of FOOTBALL CLUB BARCELONA i think this is our turn to give something back to our beloved club!..RESIST AND SPREAD THE WORD!
        VISCA BARCA!!!

      • Kxevin
        December 10, 2010

        That is decidedly an imperfect gauge. Internet polls are, as we all know, woefully inadequate. Even at that, the voting is essentially tied. I’d rather imagine some of the voting to be, as others have noted, churls who have hate for the club. Every supporter is entitled to their worldview, but I just can’t see anyone who loves this club being for this decision. And I realize full well that this is my own myopic worldview. I’d rather sell players.

        • HY
          December 10, 2010

          Customs change; traditions change; rules and regulations change. I’ve come to believe that the only things “permanent” in sports are the achievements of the players and the legacies they leave behind. So if you asked me would I rather the club sell the shirt or sell Xavi, I’d say sell the shirt. If Rosell didn’t sell it now, one of his future successors inevitably would. Most people (including me) who are upset about the shirt sponsorship now will get over it sooner or later. Perhaps some won’t, but I think most will. But everything that Xavi and the rest of the players have helped and will help the club to achieve? That’s here to stay. Just my two cents.

  33. Vicsoc8
    December 10, 2010

    From the Qatar Foundations website:

    Qatar Foundation is dedicated to building human capital in a part of the world where the need and potential for human development are considerable.
    Through its threefold mission of education, scientific research and community development, it is helping build a sustainable society where the sharing and creation of knowledge will enhance quality of life for all.
    At the current stage of its history, Qatar is blessed with oil and gas reserves that have brought it relative wealth for the foreseeable future. But this situation will not prevail indefinitely. The only guarantee of lasting prosperity lies in the ability of people to learn, adapt and innovate.
    Qatar Foundation was established in 1995 by His Highness Sheikh Hamad Bin Khalifa Al Thani, Emir of Qatar, as a vehicle to convert the country’s current, but temporary, mineral wealth into durable human capital.
    It is achieving this goal through a network of centers and partnerships that are dedicated to excellence in their respective specialisations and that are growing together into a powerful force for social change. Central to this mission is a determination to defend and develop Qatar’s unique heritage and culture.
    Qatar Foundation is chaired by Her Highness Sheikha Mozah Bint Nasser Al-Missned, wife of the Emir, who supports and guides this process.
    It sets out to be an asset not just for Qatar but for the entire Middle East region and beyond, and it already touches communities and individuals well beyond the country’s borders.
    Qatar Foundation’s flagship project is Education City, a 1,000-hectare campus on the edge of Doha where most of its member institutions are located.

  34. El Diez
    December 10, 2010

    Paolo Bandini article on Guardina – Barca not just more than a club, they are business now 😐

    Btw, anyone from Barcelona here, can you share general feeling about the deal?

      • sheena
        December 10, 2010

        Ah, wait, I didn’t read the last bit of your comment properly where you mentioned ‘from Barcelona’.
        My bad.

        • El Diez
          December 10, 2010

          Yes. Just wanted to know the local fans opinion about the deal. Saw Sport & EMD polls and they show almost 50 agrees.
          If most socis think like many in this forum then this would have never happened. Am I right here ?
          Dont they have a say in these processes? And we have a democratic setup. Correct?

          • sheena
            December 10, 2010

            I posted this further up, but here it is anyway:
            -From the club’s website:
            “Faus explained that on a legal level the agreement does not need the ratification of the general assembly because since 2003 the possibility of FC Barcelona carrying publicity on their shirts has been agreed. Nevertheless, he did open the door for the matter to be discussed in future assemblies.”

            That’s how he got the deal done without any interference from anyone.

  35. Auld Super
    December 10, 2010

    My friends keep texting me taking the piss about this, I am ready to kill someone. How the hell can anybody that supports a club that play their football at the Emirates stadium take the piss about anything ?

    • Kari
      December 10, 2010

      Because they can’t take the piss out of anything else.

    • Vj
      December 10, 2010

      Ehh, they take the piss every other week.. You can literally watch them take the piss at Old Trafford..

  36. Euler
    December 10, 2010

    Another great part of this story is the timing.

    Anyone think it’s just an accident that the deal was announced out of nowhere shortly after the 5-0 win in El Clasico?

    • December 10, 2010

      Yes, an accident. Unless you want to correlate the recent minor flooding problems around Spain with the 5-0 win too.

      Surely you didn’t miss the (ridiculously) climatic announcement of the 2018 and 2022 World Cup hosts did you? A certain nation won and is now on a mission to put the words Qatar and football hand-in-hand. To do so, they’re willing to use a resource that everyone loves: Money.

      • Euler
        December 10, 2010

        Yes it’s obvious from the Qatar side that the WC announcement likely is part of this.

        But I’m not concerned about the world cup side.

        I’m concerned about Barca.

        This is one of the biggest business deals in club history.

        And the President who oversaw the deal did not even show up for the announcement.

        Rosell knows this is going to be a very unpopular move amongst many. He didn’t show up because he doesn’t want to deal with the PR fall out so he had others do it.

        In that same sense, from the Barca standpoint, yes I think they timed this announcement to fall during a period of time where cule’s are still giddy with 5-0 and are loving the club, especially in spain.

        Rosell absolutely thought through how and when to make an announcement like this.

        Qatar did as well. But so did Barca.

    • cita
      December 10, 2010

      Qatar’s recent successful World Cup bid also makes me wonder how calculated the timing was, and if/how an unsuccessful bid on their part may have altered the tenor of either the relationship or the announcement. Perhaps not at all, but there is a certain fortuitousness.

      • December 10, 2010

        There successful bid has everything to do with this. However it’s difficult to say whether the deal would’ve occurred had the WC bid turned sour. I myself am not convinced the foundation or the royal family behind it would’ve placed 150 M to associate themselves with Barcelona, even though they’d lost the primary incentive to do so (WC). But, perhaps Rosell’s tiem spent on the bid committee ensured a strong enough relationship to secure the sponsorship deal regardless of the bid outcome.

        Who knows.

  37. Auld Super
    December 10, 2010

    True Kari. Does anybody else here see the devil when they look at pictures of Rosell ?

  38. Jose
    December 10, 2010

    *sigh*

    So, any advice on buying a jersey online? Where to go? Authentic vs. Replica?

    I only have the one I bought at the Camp Nou (Puyol’s 🙂 ) and I want to get one before the QF goes on. And also one with the World Champions badge, which we won’t have anymore in about two weeks.

  39. Auld Super
    December 10, 2010

    The official site, club shop I would say.

  40. Waleed
    December 10, 2010

    can this be stopped by any mean!! Rossel doesn’t look like wasting time in transforming the club values into cash!!
    i just feel sick!

  41. Kari
    December 10, 2010

    @Auld Super: Nope, I see Alan Harper from Two and a Half Men. Just as much of a sissy too.

    *http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/jon-cryer-as-alan-
    harper.jpg

    /http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Harper_(Two_and_a_Half_Men)

    –Kxevin talk about KitBag often, but I’mma get me a(nother) jersey as well.

  42. kamikaze kontiki
    December 10, 2010

    For all of Laporta’s faults he certainly ensured that the club retained a close connection with its idealogical roots. Although “Mes que un Club” is a rather abstract term it seemed apt for Barça. Now Rosell comes and turns us into just another petty business model.

    Stick with the football, the romance is over.

  43. Auld Super
    December 10, 2010

    I don’t know Alan can be a likable dope but there’s nothing likable about that bastard Rosell.

  44. Vj
    December 10, 2010

    Umm didn’t RoSELL promise this before the elections? And didn’t he win by record margin? So why is anyone surprised by it?

    He could do anything he wishes because the socis empowered him with the powers.. It’s just crying over spilt milk now..

  45. Peter
    December 10, 2010

    I’m going to give it a year or two before passing judgement. If Barca’s advertising helps the Qatar Foundation achieve their goals of education, research and community development then perhaps Mes Que Un Club is still valid. Is BWIN helping achieve that? How about Emirates? Or Aon? Samsung? The Qatar Foundation has already partnered with some of the world’s best universities. They have now partnered with a club whose motto is to do more, give more.

    On another note, football players are not warriors. Those that have voluntarily signed up to join the military are warriors. Never mind whether the wars they fight in are legitimate or not, that’s a completely different argument. Police officers, firefighters, these are warriors. They put their lives at risk for us.

    Let’s put everything into perspective.

    • This Qatar foundation is an armo of the Royal family of Watar. What do you mean by Barcelona helping them achieve their goals in education, research and community development. I have visited Doha recently and this stuff is like a University and nothing more than that. Please understand.

      This whole excercise is to get publicity for the Royal family of Qatar and the Kingdom. And we walked straight into such a cheap attempt. According to a UN report, this kingdom does not stand much with their human rights record. Now we are an advertising arm for them.

      I have made it clear in my earlier post that don’t defend this because Arsenal, Chelsea or ManU does this. Defend it if you believe it is the right thing to do. We don’t have to be like other clubs nor we have to do everything that goes around in other clubs.

      “They have now partnered with a club whose motto is to do more, give more.” – Do you expect anything of those left by the time Rosell leaves. Going by his election promises, the next task on his hand has to be kicking the african kids out of La Masia. He openly defnded that.

      One more thing Peter, no hard feelings. But why do you want to wait 2 years to judge this deal? Do you really want to know the Qatar king , the honorable some sheikh will pay the money or not?

      • Peter
        December 10, 2010

        This is why I want to wait a bit before passing judgement. Barcelona’s website states that the Qatar Foundation will conduct joint projects with Unicef and Barca’s Fundacio. I want to see if this happens or not, if it doesn’t than Barca really did “whore” themselves. If it does happen to what extent does it positively impact those in Catalunya? Having said that however, where was the uproar with Audi, La Caixa, Nike, Turkish Airlines, TV3 and Estrella Dam being displayed everywhere? Where was the uproar when Qatar 2022 was plastered all over Camp Nou, yet you couldn’t find Spain/Portugal 2018 anywhere?

        I agree with you, Rosell has proven to be a less than honorable man. First thing he did in office was alienate a Barca legend, Cryuff. I’m also with you in wishing there was nothing on the shirt. For more than a century there was no shirt sponsor. That’s was part of the reason why we are Mes Que Un Club.

  46. Kxevin
    December 10, 2010

    It should also be noted, for those of you who watch the advertising banners closely, that during El Clasic, Qatar 2022 was verrrry prominent. Just sayin’.

    And that anyone would presume any culpability on the part of Laporta boggles my mind. Rosell took a decision made by a regime that he has, with his every waking breath, slagged and verbally (and soon legally) assaulted, and used it for his own nefarious needs.

    The unacceptability of that staggers me.

  47. Nick
    December 10, 2010

    Good discounts at Kitbag now. Only replicas though.

  48. ooga aga
    December 10, 2010

    well, i shoulda read euler’s post more closely…not a for-profit corporation…still a slippery slope…i appreciate others opinions who know about this Foundation though.

  49. Tyler
    December 10, 2010

    fuck this blows. so is the logo going to go across the chest like all other jerseys? if so I might not buy jerseys anymore. I always felt proud not only representing barca but also UNICEF which I personally feel is a positive organization. I don’t know anything about this Qatar thing, and it just reeks of desperation for money. it’s true, everyday under Rosell we are becoming less and less “mes que un club”.

    • Jose
      December 10, 2010

      I even remember how the players had tried to wear some black shirts over their jerseys for el pasillo, supposedly in honor of some recently passed away player.

      Then Laporta came into the locker room, angry as a bull, and told them to take the shirts off and go lie in the bed they made for themselves.

      Yup, that was not long ago.

      • K(legit)
        December 10, 2010

        actually they were going to wear white for supporting Milito who had had that awful ACL injury

  50. December 10, 2010

    Just out of curiosity- is anyone here actually Catalan? It always struck me funny that people that are neither Catalan or Spanish always talk about the preciousness of the culture. (Or the shirt in this instance)

    • mei
      December 10, 2010

      the founder of the club wasnt catalan.Not even spanish.

      • Kxevin
        December 10, 2010

        You don’t have to be of that nationality to have deep respect for that culture and people. That’s a rather myopic worldview, yes? For me, it took spending a day with a lifelong Barcelona family, and a man whose mother was affected by the Civil War to radically alter my worldview. Yes, I have much respect. Research helps you to understand how things are.

        So I confess to not finding it funny at all.

        The club’s founder was in fact Swiss, as mei notes.

    • VicNZ
      December 10, 2010

      Im half Catalan-Spanish if that answers your question.

  51. flyzowee
    December 10, 2010

    *sigh*
    111 years of virginity.

    Its a new dawn ppl, we are more than a club in some ways, but not every way.

    Weve stood so long and proud in defiance but alas our fortress has been breached.

    Flags of Qutar will now fly high on land once sacred to its people.

    It was a brave fight, honourable indeed.

    But the tide was too strong.
    Even for a nation that is Barca.

  52. Vicsoc8
    December 10, 2010

    I have some questions for people who are voraciously against the deal:

    1. Are you upset about the physical appearance of the logo on the shirt?

    I’m assuming the answer to this is no, as currently we have the UNICEF logo on our shirt, yet many people against this new deal praise the UNICEF deal. Therefore it isn’t he logo on the shirt that you are upset about, but rather the philosophy and sentiment behind that logo and that brought the logo to our shirt.

    2. What is the difference between UNICEF and the Qatar Foundation.

    UNICEF got acceptance because it is a charitable organization, giving us he comfort that our club was a philanthropic organization. But is the Qatar Foundation not also a worthwhile

    • Jose
      December 10, 2010

      In a nutshell:

      UNICEF we pay $1.5 million a year for the benefit of wearing their logo.

      Qatar Foundation pays us $30 million to wear their logo.

      Makes all the difference in the world…

      • Kxevin
        December 10, 2010

        Exactly. Nobody is arguing against the work that the Qatar Foundation does. By all accounts it’s top-rate, and exactly what it presents itself as.

        My simple issue is selling the front of the shirt. Many note that we already have, in the presence of the Nike swoosh. Nike makes the clothing, however. That swoosh is inescapable, just as the logo of the company that makes the cycling clothing that my team wears is prominently displayed. So I don’t buy that argument, either.

        • pedro
          December 10, 2010

          The Nike swoosh isn’t inescapable, you can get shirts without the logo of the manufacturer on it just like the 60s or 70s. Do you really think Nike doesn’t benefit from being on the front of the shirt

    • Vicsoc8
      December 10, 2010

      Message got half published by accident, full message below

  53. flyzowee
    December 10, 2010

    The last airbender joined the fire nation.

  54. Vicsoc8
    December 10, 2010

    I have some questions for people who are voraciously against the deal:

    1. Are you upset about the physical appearance of the logo on the shirt?

    I’m assuming the answer to this is no, as currently we have the UNICEF logo on our shirt, yet many people against this new deal praise the UNICEF deal. Therefore it isn’t he logo on the shirt that you are upset about, but rather the philosophy and sentiment behind that logo and that brought the logo to our shirt.

    2. What is the difference between UNICEF and the Qatar Foundation.

    UNICEF got acceptance because it is a charitable organization, giving us he comfort that our club was a philanthropic organization. But is the Qatar Foundation not also a worthwhile cause that is deserving of our support? The Idea behind it is to take the fleeting material wealth of Qatar (and broadly the middle east) and to invest it to make the people of the region self sufficient after the oil is gone. That seems like a worthwhile cause to me. It certainly is a lot different from a betting company or an airline. This leads me to believe the problem is that we are bein paid for the deal.

    3. If we were paying the Qatar Foundation 1.5 million a year to put them on the shirt, would you have a problem with it?

    Imagine the deal was structured like the current UNICEF agreement. I imagine that there would be a lot less outrage, and a lot more discussion on whether the Qatar Foundation was a worthwhile organization for us to be supporting at such a large level.

    4. Can you legitimately support a cause and still be paid for doing so?

    Does support for a cause necessarily mean you can’t be paid for what you do? Ask the soldiers who volunteer for the army because they love their country. Are they any less of patriots for also receiving a stipend for their efforts?

    5. Has the club whored itself out?

    The club has received payment on a large scale for a shirt sponsorship for the first time in history. Many people are discussing how it has denigrated the clubs philosophy and has brought into question the principles and even the motto (mes que in club) of the club. I would love to see some answers to the questions above, and if thinking about them makes the issue a little less black and white.

    • Kari
      December 10, 2010

      Heh, I just made a similar point below. I’m still miffed about this whole thing, but I’ll just wait it out.

      By them paying us, it feels like we’ll sell ourselves for money (thus the “whoring” term.) and for the reason of supporting a non-profit cause.

      Sigh. I just dunno right now. It’ll take a few days for me to see this the way it should, without screaming, “DAMN YOU, ROSELL!”.

      • Kari
        December 10, 2010

        “and not for the reason of[…]”

      • Vicsoc8
        December 10, 2010

        I am vehemently against the deal as well, but it’s easy to have a knee jerk reaction, and a bit more difficult to really think about why this deal is odious. For me, I have no problem with being paid to support a worthwhile cause. Atthe same time, I don’t believe the Qatar Foundation is a worthwhile cause. The UNICEF logo is all about giving support an helping people who are unable to help themselves, it is a charitable organization.

        Meanwhile, the Qatar Foundation certainly has admirable aims, but they also have immense means to accomplishtheir goals. The space on the shirt should be used to advocate for people who are unable to change their own situations and need the help of Steiger entities, the Qatar Foundation doesn’t fit this description

    • Jose
      December 10, 2010

      “3. If we were paying the Qatar Foundation 1.5 million a year to put them on the shirt, would you have a problem with it?”

      Nah, that’d be fine. Although an argument could be made that UNICEF is a more worthwhile cause. Or something like the Gates Foundation.

    • Many of you believe that Qatar foundation is a charitable organisation which works for making life better for millions of people. It is nothing like that. They are just a PR agency for the Qatar Royal Family. Whatever the motto of this foundation is the duty of any government of that particular country. So why should you need a foundation to do those work.

      Now, why many support UNICEF?

      Everyone liked the idea, because there is something special about UNICEF. They are organisation which makes a huge difference in to lives of small children all around the world. Do you find it difficult to relate it as a Barca fan?

      We never sold our shirt (like a Barca fans said “Never sold our Soul”) for a price to them. We paid them 0.7% of our revenue to have the honour of wearing their name on our shirt. We paid them money, eventhough it may amount to nothing (comparing the amount they usually require), but it may have made diffrence to the ones who lives were positively changed. There is a huge difference to this deal.

      Now will I be happy if we paid Qatar foundation the money and then we put the logo. As I said earlier compar morally equal entities, not these two institutions. It’s something kile comparing Nelson Mandela and Jacob Zuma, since both were Presidents. BUt remember still Nelson Mandela is still THE Mandela.

      I would definitely approve to have something like red cross logo on our shirt and then pay them also a bit. BUt not these organisation.

      • Vj
        December 11, 2010

        If they truly are a PR agency, I’ll be happy if you provide some proof to support you claims..

        BTW, you really think RoSELL is willing to put up cash for anything?

      • vicsoc8
        December 11, 2010

        Maybe you should read all of my comments before judging what I write.

        Thanks.

  55. Kari
    December 10, 2010

    Now that I’ve had a couple of hours to cool off, I can look at this deal a little more calmly.

    I still think RoSELL is a rat-faced b*****d–for breaking a tradition so easily and without any kind of consent from the socis (I don’t give a fig what the previous regime did.) and many other things but…

    I went to the Qatar Foundation website* to find out what the heck it was, and I have to say it ain’t a bad thing.

    *http://www.qf.org.qa/output/page3.asp

    We’re not being sponsored by a online gambling site or an airline, but a non-profit organisation that promotes education and scientific research — not all that different from UNICEF.

    Instead of us paying the honor of having such an organization of our shirt, they’re paying us a hell of a lot for the honor of the current best team in the world wearing their name.

    I’m still a bit peeved on this whole issue (mostly at RoSELL), but looking at it without outside biases, it doesn’t look so bad. Although, I’m just consoling myself at this point.

    P.S. I’m still waiting to see how our kits will look. If the one posted on barcastuff with the tree is true, I might break something.

    • beeeef
      December 10, 2010

      i like Ramzi’s design the best.

      I agree though, if anything resembling that tree ends up on the jersey, i won’t be purchasing a new one for a loong time.

      • Jose
        December 10, 2010

        Hopefully they go something similar to the UNICEF logo… the tree on the left, with “Qatar Foundation” written to its right. All of it in yellow, like the UNICEF logo.

        They should put the UNICEF global logo where our current CWC 2009 Champions badge is, top center, resting on the sternum.

        … Trying to make the best out of a bad situation.

        • K(legit)
          December 10, 2010

          That tree really ruins the dynamic of the jersey
          I don’t want to even imagine the away jerseys and the abominations Nike generally makes for us

    • “a non-profit organisation that promotes education and scientific research”

      Can you explain me this. Don’t you think the above said motto is the duty of every govenrment? Then why you want a foundation setup for doing this job?

  56. HY
    December 10, 2010

    “In 1990, we struck a temporary deal with Japan Air Lines, and wore that company’s logo for two matches. We were paid 400m pesetas (about 2.4m Euros) for the front.”

    Never knew this. I guess our shirt isn’t “virgin” after all.

  57. Auld Super
    December 10, 2010

    I’m pretty sure Nike pay megabucks for the honor of having their swoosh on the Jersey. I would prefer if it was the adidas 3 stripes though but thats just me.

    There should be nothing on the jersey and Laporta knew well what he was doing when he done that deal to have UNICEF on the jersey, softening people up to have a money paying sponsor on there. As somebody said earlier there’s plenty of places for companies to advertise and be associated with the club other that plastering it all over our jersey. Having no sponsor on the jersey was one of the main things that attracted me to the club in the first place and I’m sure I’m not the only one.

  58. BA
    December 10, 2010

    let there be no mistake: this is a watershed moment in the history of the club. from this day on no matter how we talk about our charitable works or the Youth team players we bring up, we can’t make the case that we’re not just another club. we’ve lost the all-important symbolism, the last big club to do so, of being without corporate puke across our colours. that’s a fundamental shift in the nature of the club itself, and it’s Sandro Rosell alone who’s taken us there.

    the question is: what do the members in Catalunya think of this? i’m very interested to know if they’re as invested in selling out as their president is?

  59. JC
    December 10, 2010

    Long time reader here.

    I’ll get heat for this but I don’t care either way.

    Will you guys stop supporting the team because it has a shirt sponsor?

    First of all, I didn’t start supporting the club because they had no shirt sponsor. Barça became my favorite club because they play good football. I also follow FCB Basquet, and they have had AXA, Regal and other companies on their jerseys for a long time.

    How many of you guys have actively participated in Unicef’s programs. How many of you have followed their efforts? I think it’s a little pretentious for people to say that they are proud that Unicef has been on Barça’s shirt, if in reality they care little about the work Unicef has done.

    Maybe I’m just an outsider. Not being Catalan and all.

    • Jose
      December 10, 2010

      As a teenager in the Dominican Republic, I volunteered in UNICEF’s efforts in recently flooded communities. UNICEF’s permanent presence in the developing world usually means they, along with the Red Cross, are the first there for those in need.

    • P
      December 10, 2010

      I agree. I thought Mes Que Un Club always had to do with being anti-Madrid. I didn’t realize it had much to do with shirt sponsorship. I think you can still be unique, be more than a club, and have a shirt sponsor. For over a century there was no sponsor on the shirt, however, things change, sometimes for the best, sometimes for the worst. One thing is clear though. Most, if not all of us support Barcelona because of their policy to utilize the youth team, their policy to play attacking football. So they have a shirt sponsor now. Does that diminish the above?

      • Ryan
        December 10, 2010

        FCB has to do with being Catalan, not being anti-Madrid.

        • P
          December 10, 2010

          Catalans are anti-Madrid and FCB is a forefront of that. When Franco forbade the use of the Catalan language it was inside the Camp Nou where they were free to speak it. FCB has as much to do with Catalonia as it does being anti-Madrid. As intertwined as FCB is with the Catalan culture, it’s hard not to be anti-Madrid.

          • Ryan
            December 10, 2010

            Hmm, I would argue that the characteristics and culture of Catalunya are more of a guiding force than simply being against the capital. Of course there’s an anti-Madrid element, but being anti-EE isn’t what defines the club.

            In any case, I like to see FCB as the bastion/ambassador of Catalunya rather than primarily the counterbalance to Madrid.

  60. Auld Super
    December 10, 2010

    I don’t think people would stop supporting the club over this and I certainly won’t but there was something very noble about not soiling the shirt with a sponsor. In my case it’s not the whole reason I support Barca but it did differentiate the club from the likes of RM and Man U who were also playing good football at the time but were money making machines whereas Barca was a club representing a people and a region who respected the shirt too much to have some logo plastered across it. Now sadly today all that has changed forever.

  61. cita
    December 10, 2010

    I wonder if we’ll hear any reactions to this from any of the unsuccessful election candidates? Come to think of it, I don’t remember hearing anything from them when the soci policy was changed either.

    I spent some time going through Pep’s election blog, and it’s fascinating reading six months later. It makes me particularly curious to know Ingla’s thoughts about how all this is playing out.

  62. Colby
    December 10, 2010

    “Final numbers of the Qatar Foundation deal: 15M for the coming 6 months, 150M (+5M extras) for shirt sponsorship from 2011 to 2016, 170M max” (Pep’s twitter).

    Does that mean that the shirts will have the logo starting immediately (or as soon as they figure out what it will look like?)

    Basically, should I buy this year’s kit immediately rather than waiting until March like I was planning?

    • Jnice
      December 10, 2010

      The shirts with the Qatar Foundation logos are for the 2011/2012 season. You can wait till March to buy this year’s kit.

    • beeeef
      December 10, 2010

      thanks for the confirmation yo.

      when it comes to interviews with barca players in the media, you can never be sure!

  63. Soy Culé
    December 10, 2010

    Hello all;
    This news comes as a shock to me more than anything. But something else happened to me that makes me even more disgusted than the apparent new sponsorship deal.

    So my birthday is September 2nd. For my birthday, I ordered myself a Barça shirt (the pistachio-green away kit) from the US Store on the BarcelonaShop around Sept. 15th.
    I figured I would get it within the standard 2 weeks or so. But a month went by, and I got an e-mail from the club saying the shirt was back-ordered, and I would have to wait until about November. No biggie. So Nov. came, and I got another e-mail saying it was pushed back again until mid-December.
    So, here we are, mid-December. I just sent the club an e-mail today, and they said my order would be further delayed until late January. So I just canceled the order.

    Has this happened to anyone else? And does anyone know why it’s happening? For the best club in the world to treat fans like that is disgusting. I get that there may be some complications in an order, but to delay someone’s order for 5 MONTHS is astonishing. Are you telling me the best club in the world doesn’t have the resources to make a shirt and send it to a fan outside of Europe within at most a month?

    I wasn’t happy about the sponsorship deal. But now, I’m just hurt. Cheers everyone.

    • Nik
      December 10, 2010

      I’m not sure what the issue is. Must be something on the supply side with Nike. My Barca winter-jacket that I bought was delayed a month instead of the two weeks, but it did eventually come.

      • December 10, 2010

        The FCBarcelonashopusa.com store is somehow affiliated with World Soccer Shop, an entity that, politely put, blows. As long as they have the item in stock, you will get it. If they don’t, woe betide you.

        The club aligns itself with various order fulfillers. In Europe it’s Kitbag (who I order from, precisely because the N. America Barca shop sucks so bad). Here it has to be World Soccer Shop because if you visit one, they have the same stocking issues.

        The real bummer is that because they want to prop up the N. American shop, you can’t order from the official shop, as you used to be able to do.

        • Nik
          December 10, 2010

          How much more do you spend by buying through Kitbag?

          • December 10, 2010

            It works out to about the same, actually. Shipping is a bit more expensive because I choose the air mail option. But Kitbag usually has everything, and ordering is very easy via PayPal.

        • HY
          December 10, 2010

          God I want some of the stuff in the European official shop. Some of the merchandise available there, you can’t even find in the North American one. BUMMER.

        • Soy Culé
          December 11, 2010

          Thanks Kxevin, I see what you’re saying. I guess I made the mistake of ordering from the BarcelonaUSAShop. I do notice that they don’t sell the same items that they do on the European store, but I didn’t think that my order would be screwed up so poorly.

          Thanks for the advice.

          BTW, beeef, I live in NY, hence why I ordered from the USA shop. I didn’t know it (the USA shop) was that bad.

    • HY
      December 10, 2010

      I’ve had this problem with the Away kit, but not the Home kit. I pre-ordered both during the summer. The Home kit arrived on time but the Away one kept being delayed. Now the estimated arrival date is 5/11/10, when the season is almost over. *rolls eyes* Actually, on every online retailer I’ve come across, if you want the authentic Away jersey, you’ll have to wait until next May.

  64. BarcaOwl
    December 10, 2010

    I must admit this whole thing saddens me. As long as there is a sponsor on the shirts, I’ll not buy them. Guess I’d better get what I can afford while it’s sponsor-free. 🙁 *sigh*

  65. Veritaserum
    December 11, 2010

    I’m not upset Barca negotiated a shirt sponsorship. I’m upset they chose the Qatar Foundation and didn’t consult with team members. I don’t care that in 2003, statutes were changed. All the rhetoric about transparency and you negotiate a back-room deal under the noses of socios. That is the exact opposite of being transparent. Why didn’t Barca take up a sponsorship with the Catalan tourism board or with a Catalan based company. That would fall directly in line with Mes Que Un Club. But QF? So Barca is taking 30 mil a year from a non-profit? Thankfully, Barca is an organization where club members do have a say. I definitely feel a vote of no confidence being possible for Rosell. In the meantime, as fans who can’t become members thanks to Rosell, we do have a voice. We can choose not to buy Barca’s shirts or merchandise.

  66. blitzen
    December 11, 2010

    Well, I’m not going to comment much on the issue because Kxevin has already pretty much said everything there is to say, and I’m late to the party having been travelling all day (I hate Greyhound immensely FWIW). I am very unhappy about this, but not surprised. It was in the cards from the moment Rosell was elected, so the socis have only themselves to blame. I am consoling myself with the following points:

    –the Qatar Foundation is a non-profit that does some good work.
    –apparently part of the agreement is that the Unicef logo will always be larger than the Qatar Foundation logo.
    –a tree logo is….better?….than lots of other things.
    –since we will no longer have the FIFA Club World Cup logo on our shirts, I imagine that is where this new logo will be located, so the shirt design shouldn’t be too different.
    –I already have my Xavi shirt without any corporate logo. 😀

  67. stowe
    December 11, 2010

    that logo is hideous! at least i have a couple home kits with the unicef logo. I love that we supported unicef and advertised for it. it will not be the same seeing that ugly tree

  68. barca96
    December 11, 2010

    Guys, we are fans from outside Barcelona but it seems once again that a lot of people in Barcelona itself do like Rosell and this sponsorship thing.
    A massive 40% found it to be a good idea that we have a shirt sponsor.
    Their voices are more likely to be heard than ours.

  69. Spiro
    December 11, 2010

    I can see why this sponsership deal went through,

    right now the club is experiencing an increase in popularity at a rate never seen before. remember, the figures on facebook where something like 5-7 million fans. From a business point of view, it is understandable why QF would pay so much for a sponsership deal, since they will gain an awarness power greater than from anything else.

    Again, Im assuming Rosell viewed the situation from this direction, because its very obvious that he is a businessman type person, and we should know better than to expect anything else from him.

    I feel that Rosell has made a rather naive move right now, he hasn’t taken into consideration what implcations a shirt sponsor might have to the shirst sales, attendance numbers and most important television ratings for the club.

    to me, I feel that the shirt sponser affects more than that, it affects a lot of the qualitative aspects of the club. It also contradicts the clubs motto, which is equivalent to an organisations mission statement, any contradiction is bad business.

    lastly, it also affect the satisfaction of being a fan or a soci, damn it even affects the satisfaction of a general viewer.

    again then there is the long term implications which bring darker more greater consequences.

    I have a feeling that Rosell jumped too quickly to the idea. and to me i feel upset because we are the ones who are most affected.

  70. Miguel
    December 11, 2010

    kamikaze kontiki,

    i miss your shit on pep’s old blog, where can i follow you?

  71. K(legit)
    December 11, 2010

    I have a Nike store near my house where I get most of my Barça stuff..thing is, however, they tend to stock up on Man Utd merchandise as the BPL is the no. 1 craze in my country and so getting jerseys is a bit difficult.

    • Vj
      December 11, 2010

      Tell me immediately if you have a breakthrough..

      In my recent visit to New Delhi, I was ecstatic after spying on a jersey, imagine my disappointment when it started to read Ibr… on its back..

  72. simple_barcafan
    December 11, 2010

    the QF website would have had more hits after this deal was disclosed then till now..exactly what they would have wanted…

  73. simple_barcafan
    December 11, 2010

    “Poll result: “Do you think it’s good Barcelona would put a sponsor on the shirt? No 60% – Yes 40% [sport]”

    @courtesy barcastuff..interesting..does it reflect the opinion of the Catalan ppl??

  74. jaymin
    December 11, 2010

    pau gasol is now the solitary thing that makes FCB more than a club.

  75. jaymin
    December 11, 2010

    everyone has to live in the world, and as a pragmatist it was painful to think how much money Barcelona were foregoing year to year with their unicef stunt. They are the name in world sport right now, and they finally have a deal which suits and serves them. I hope they keep the unicef logo too.

    • Jim
      December 11, 2010

      Can’t agree with the “stunt” comment. What Barcelona did there is, imo, a shining example to other clubs.

      Likewise,’ though I can’t seem to get as steamed up as some others seem to be. I’m not Catalan and I’m not as steeped in the club’s traditions as some here whose opinions I respect so I need to reflect that maybe I’m missing something.

      However, although distasteful in both the deed and the method it happened it may be that there is a danger of overreacting to this. ( I say this as someone who has a habit of overreacting when something close to my heart changes suddenly 🙂 ) You can be too close to something to look at it objectively and we are in the fortunate position of not having to balance the books of the club.

      I found myself agreeing with most of the points made in the article below from Total Barca.

      *http://www.totalbarca.com/2010/opinion-pieces/opinions-still-mes-que-un-club-it-is-still-a-mes-que-un-shirt/#more-60477

      • mei
        December 11, 2010

        I wont go with the shining example moto.
        Not in business level , not in sporting terms either.

        Many players,managers,officials say very nice things about barcelona but they do not look up to us as an example.

        Its more like a forbidden pleasure , or more precisely an exception.

        Nobody will try to play like us and they will give you the excuses that are valid though : you need players good enough and bonded well together , a courageous coach , even fans that demand that more than trophies/good results against their rivals.
        The truth is that nevermind the above ,I cant think any team would dare to put their goals and their “red lines” in danger just to live up to a model that may offer them the chance to play in a beatiful way at some point.
        Coaches like their joband the money it provides them with, presidents and fans dont like to lose against their rivals , weaker teams , trophies.
        Good looking or not doesnt matter and will probably never will, because afterall their presence within their respective teams is temporary.

        The homegrown players advantage barcelona has is not just saved money and deserved pride of producing talent that is present in their first team and goes on to win trophies in a spectacular way :
        its the essence that these guys are forged to play beatifully in an attacking system.
        And that style is permanent.

        • mei
          December 11, 2010

          And thats a major issue here too.
          Fans before our recent success were proud of the club without the trophies , and attached to the club because of the history , tradition , style.
          Even fans that joined after 2004 are pretty much connected more to these values rather than trophies.

          Somebody tries to hack these? I can quarantee that many fans will feel alieanated , even more than the recent member restriction(that doesnt matter much because in the past things were more or less the same).

          Plus theres always the what if question following.
          So now we start giving our tradition away.
          What if our sporting success comes to a halt? What are we gonna be proud of , the past success?
          Its even harder for us that have learnt to be proud of other things than that anyway , and these things will not be there when we need them more, and thats when the sporting success will pass which i can assure you it will.

          • Jim
            December 11, 2010

            Not sure you understood my point, Mei. I said I didn’t regard the UNICEF as a “stunt” and that I thought it provided a good example for other clubs , not that I thought they necessarily would follow it. It had nothing whatsoever to do with a way of play on the pitch and neither does the whole jersey business.

            However, to say that other managers don’t regard us a good template for the way to play football is a bit off. At every level of the game fans, players and managers ( not that they didn’t before) are realising that if you have the ball the other team can’t hurt you, that good doesn’t necessarily mean big and that you can save yourself money by having a genuine youth system where youngsters learn your system wherever that happens to be.

            The attitude to Barcelona’s style has swung round in the last two years from being “It looks pretty but how will they do against pace and brute strength” (EPL, I’m looking at you) to ” My god, if they play, we’re all in for a tanking”.

            Finally, I love the way we play and to me, it is non-negotiable. I try to get my team to play like us at my Monday night kickabout ( anyone else find themselves irritated by the needless loss of possession even in our bounce games since we started watching our team?) and the team have money in the bank for me in the sense that I’m prepared to lose some trophies if we play in that certain way and are true to it but I’m not kidding myself that there’ll be many others in Barcelona or elsewhere who would put up with, for example, the trophyless years that Arsenal have had to endure. Just look at our Liveblog when we start an individual game uncertainly. The stress gets to us and the negative comments flow. Imagine a season of that.

            My main point was really that I’m just not coming from a place where I can see the extra logo on the shirt as threatening all this.

  76. ML
    December 11, 2010

    Am i the only one that thinks that this decision may hamper our performances on the pitch? Think about it.

  77. sheena
    December 11, 2010

    Via Pep on twitter:
    -“Barcelona consider to add the name of a sponsor to the new Palau Blaugrana, the home of the basketball and other teams. [el mundo deportivo]”
    -“Adding a sponsor to the name of the Palau, could be a test for doing the same with the Camp Nou later. [el mundo deportivo]”

    *hyperventilates and dies*

    • K(legit)
      December 11, 2010

      Oh man one blow after another..what are you doing Rossel?
      Alienate each and every non-Catalan fan?

    • Helge
      December 11, 2010

      My local football stadium has also been renamed from “Bielefelder Alm” to “Schüco Arena”. Still, we fans call it “Alm” and even the radio reporters often refer to it by its old name.

    • IS
      December 11, 2010

      Now I’m genuinely worried about the future Camp Nou remodeling plans. RoSELL won’t have a hard time finding plenty of corporates to fund the project…

  78. Lou
    December 11, 2010

    Question for those who read Sport and EMD: do they generally take sides in the Rosell/Laporta wars? By analogy I know that Marca absolutely worships the ground that Florentino Perez walks on and basically won the RM Presidency for him, but do either of the Catalan papers have a similar loyalty to Rosell?

    And if not have there been complaints in either paper about Rosell selling the shirt?

    • Jnice
      December 11, 2010

      I’ve heard MD has ties to Rosell.

  79. El Diez
    December 11, 2010

    Does anyone knows how much money we lose if ‘TV revenue sharing’ happens? I think there is already a proposal and we might lose some in that. Since some teams has not agreed for the deal, there is a chance more of sharing can happen in the coming years.
    Doesnt this shirt deal cover for the above loss?

  80. Auld Super
    December 11, 2010

    The shirt deal wouldn’t even come close to covering that loss. I might be wrong here ( although it’s highly unlikely ) but I think the TV deal is 600m over 5 years.

    Interesting piece in the mirror today about Van Persie wanting to meet Barca in the champions league next, – are this the same Barca team that have only one weakness – set up your team to stifle them over two legs and you might get lucky. But if you fancy taking them on at football they will bury you. Be careful what you wish for Robin, you might just get it.

    • Helge
      December 11, 2010

      Well, obviously the current TV rights are being sold for about 160m p.a. (cf. Euler’s last post)
      But the TV revenue sharing doesn’t mean that we would suddenly get no more money at all, I think a loss of about 30m p.a. is a reasonable guess. At least it comes pretty close to covering that loss. But so far, this new TV deal hasn’t been put through (afaik).

    • You can see the current TV revenue scheme on our blog on the sidebar–scroll down to “las tablas” on the right.

      You and RM currently take 280m, or about 47% of the total 600m in TV revenue (while grabbing about 30% of the TV audience combined). Under the new plan proposed by you and RM, you two would get a combined 34%. However, the deal is set to take place in 2014, and they’re projecting that TV revenue will be at 900 million by then. In other words, you’ll be making MORE money (approx. 150m).

      Interestingly, in the RM/Barca proposal many Liga teams won’t see their revenues increase (even though overall revenue increases) because after RM/Barca’s chunk, there’s still the 22% for Atleti/Valencia, and then 10% set aside for Segunda/relegated teams, leaving about 34% of the revenue for the remaining 13 Liga teams, or an average of 23m each.

      • Oops–correction: Val/Atleti get 11% TOTAL, not each. So my numbers need to be adjusted accordingly. Sorry for the confusion. If you want to read more, this post (and the comments section) covers the most recent developments from the last time the presidents met (Nov. 17).

        *http://monchismen.wordpress.com/2010/11/16/barcarmatletivalencia-vs-sevillavillarrealathleticsociedadmalagaetc-match-preview/

  81. jaime
    December 11, 2010

    people…we need to start putting together some petitions or something…we can’t just sit here and be frustrated.

    i dont know much about organizing,but we should get as many people to let Rosell know how we feel

    P.S: as outraged as I am, I am not surprised.I always knew Rosell would do this….as I know well he will not bring fabregas,he’ll let Alves go to City, and he’ll run Guardiola out as well. Enjoy being a winner now Barça fans, becuse with Alexandre at the helm the glory will not last long

  82. MoSSi
    December 11, 2010

    Keep whining about it isn’t gonna change anything, the decision has been made. The board doesn’t has the same view as most Culés..

    We have a game on sunday, remember?

  83. jordi(TM)
    December 11, 2010

    😀 Yaya destroying west ham today.2 golazos.

    • K(legit)
      December 11, 2010

      he is really blossoming as an attacking mid in Cited…two proper golazos..the first for power, precision etc..the 2nd for his run

  84. Euler
    December 11, 2010

    Cules should be prepared for some kind of commercial sponsorship renaming of Camp Nou.

    It’s going to happen.

    In many ways selling the shirt is more of an encroachment than selling the name of the stadium complex.

    The shirt is visible and something you are aware (consciously or unconsciously) of all the time as the team plays.

    This Board’s priorities were to make sure the club itself is locked as ethnically catalan and to then maximize revenue.

    If they can find some other deep pocketed non-profit or something similar – they’ll sell stadium sponsorship.

    From their perspective what’s the big deal in selling the stadium name – all the Catalans will just continue to call it Camp Nou anyway.

    • K(legit)
      December 11, 2010

      I just hope the stadium renaming doesn’t happen in the time Rossel is still in charge
      *false hope*

      • Euler
        December 11, 2010

        He’s not even 6 months into his term.

        Its going to happen.

        It’ll be one of the ways he can say he took the club from the financial crisis he found it in an “saved” it, increasing it’s revenues 50% or whatever figure he has targeted.

        • beeeef
          December 11, 2010

          the confidence you have in rosell actually adding a commercially sponsored name to the camp nou is chilling.

          and yet after considering the magnitude of what has transpired in the last couple of days, it doesn’t seem like that audacious of a claim at all.

          🙁

  85. Kari
    December 11, 2010

    Ha! Juan Albin put Getafe 1-0 up in the 89th min. vs Villareal and celebrates by taking his shirt off. And getting a second yellow.

    Liverpool… ouch. I don’t know how it happened by Joey freakin’ Barton just scored to put Newcastle 2-1 up. Ouch.

  86. jzm
    December 11, 2010

    I frankly don’t see what’s wrong with it. Advertising is not bad. It isn’t whoring to accept sponsership in return for money. Let’s face it, money makes the world goes round though most people dont want to admit it. Most other clubs do that. Even FIFA/UEFA also accept sponsership as a means to pay off some of the expenses in organising the tournament. Football like many things else is about money. Heck, even Barcelona who is more than a club needs money. Your players and coach are not doing their job for free. Most of them asked for millions upon millions of dollars as wages, despite some of their self-proclaim undying love for the club. There are expenses to be paid. Pep just admit that the club need the money. And you should remember not too long ago, the club was forced to take up a bank loan just to meet employee’s wage expenses. Obviously contribution from the soci members aren’t enough to pay for all the cost. So when the management has to find other source of income, suddenly there is this outrage?

    If you feel so strongly about the issue, perhaps the soci memebers can band together to dwell into their private personal savings inorder to pay off the club debt and meet all its current and future expenses. Until that happen, all these, and including this article is just BS to me and nothing more than empty gesture trying to moralize from a high horse.

  87. Katu
    December 13, 2010

    Qatar Foundation is a mix of non profit and corporate JVs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_Foundation

    Rosell can’t see the wood for the trees? ;-S

    People will still buy the shirt. I’m an Arsenal fan and refuse to buy the Emirates logo shirt so go without, but am in a minority. I also call the ground the Grove.
    Seriously, it is a pity that for 111 years you can manage without overt corporate logos but now you are so successful and beautiful to watch, your President sells out. Maybe it’s because you and RM may have to share TV revenue in the future?
    Players’ wages are also out of control.

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