243 Comments

    • Spiro
      December 1, 2010

      It’s nothing new, they’re all like that, Phil ball at soccernet, the espanyol fan on revista is like that, they all try to sway against Barcelona.

      Obviously if they had been watching Barcelona games, they would realise abidal is no where near a weaklink, I would go as far to say that abidal would easily be in the top 5 LBs in the world.

      • Jnice
        December 1, 2010

        Yeah, it’s like people don’t watch Abidal when they watch Barça. I didn’t understand why all these pundits and commentators were acting as if Abidal isn’t our first choice left back when fit.

        • jordi(TM)
          December 1, 2010

          So true, i kept hearing and reading things like “Abidal preferred to Maxwell”. No shit?

  1. extreme barca fan
    December 1, 2010

    Mmmmm, the catalunya cup, who gives a damn, really, pep will find this as a good chance to see as many B-teamers as possible, especially that there weekend game against betis was postponed so they should all be fired up for this.
    sergio ramos should get a life ban, but thats just me, i hate that guy as much as i hate thong boy
    Alves renewal hopefully will go on, this is one guy that is ALMOST impossible to replace
    Eto’o i love him and ill contiue to love him but i dont see him coming back
    And finally in 1995 in the 4th round of the group stage of the UCL we demolished man utd by a score of 4-0 so yes we can

    Cheers to everybody here at the BFB

  2. Spiro
    December 1, 2010

    One match man is a joke,

    what ever happened to no tolerance to violence?

    Something really fishy is going on there

  3. IS
    December 1, 2010

    How genuinely nice of you Kxevin… First you give TB his deserved credit in predicting that we wouldn’t reach 8 (in the post-match review title!), and now.. well, you take it one step further by proving to everyone that Mou is once again correct as the world truly has continued to turn!

    Thank you for being so fair and giving credit where it’s due! 🙂

    • Eklavya
      December 1, 2010

      Kxevin is a biased idiot and only gives credits to those who don’t deserve it.

      (sarcasm)

    • IS
      December 1, 2010

      Wow. Ok, was it funny? Ya sure. But what surprised me was the extent to which the author(club) tried to cover up the score line, the play, the major incidents, everything! I’ve read plenty of Barca post-match reports and when we screw around, our in-house journalists call it as it is. At least they don’t insult our intelligence or, to be more precise, our eye sight and comprehension of ‘football’ as a ‘sport’. That was truly sad reporting – even by EE standards (which are already assumed to be a step below the likes of Marca and AS).

  4. BarcaOwl
    December 1, 2010

    Great. Another match which will not be shown by any TV stations here. It’s bad enough that they don’t show the Copa del Rey matches. 🙁

    Guess I’ll just have to settle for whatever I can find online. It’d be nice to see those from the B team play together with some of the first team players.

  5. December 1, 2010

    Copa Catalunya will be a good match for a show as well as for the young guns to flex their muscles. Indeed, we are stacked! I would like to see Barca B play against EE just for a more competitive match, although Barca B will most likely lose. 😀

    Question: What is the joke Manito about? It has something to do with the number FIVE and another word, right? what is it??

    Eto’o Caganer I found:
    http://www.caganer.com/images/caganer_eto.jpg

    • jhargrid
      December 1, 2010

      Manito is Spanish for “little hand.” One goal for each finger on the hand.

  6. GREECE BARCA
    December 1, 2010

    Can we find a nick for that stupid player of E.E?I hate to read his name here..any ideas?

  7. GREECE BARCA
    December 1, 2010

    And please..Can we play every week with E.E?..

  8. Kxevin
    December 1, 2010

    In a comment yesterday, Thong Boy said that right now, we’re the best team in the world.

    Ramos is of course claiming bad timing, that he didn’t mean to hurt Messi.

    –And in that English league, The Yaya is taking a galaxy full of crap for his so so play, coupled with his colossal pay packet. One pundit says he isn’t fit to lace Scholes’ boots. Truth be told, he has been exposed, in the absence of the quality of Xavi and Busquets.

    –Abidal is a player who will never get his due, even after he’s gone. His great plays are glossed over, his errors magnified. That’s just how it is.

    • Nik
      December 1, 2010

      I’d be careful about that first link. I clicked on it, and the page got hijacked with a box telling me that my computer needed to be scanned for spyware.

  9. Kxevin
    December 1, 2010

    Actually, WE as a club give a damn. It is the Copa CATALUNYA, and we are the brightest example of Catalunya. And don’t forget the election year and the attendant nationalist fervor, which is at an all-time high.

    Imagine the egg on Rosell’s face if the club was perceived as having dumped its own national tourney. If we really didn’t care, you would see all kids and B Teamers.

    • Vj
      December 1, 2010

      Dunno about Rosell, but Laporta didn’t care much about the tourney..

      Besides I’m starting to love Masche all over again because of his attitude – the dude is taking major sacrifices for the club and still is the poster-boy for professionalism..

      Lastly, its funny how Ramos gets the same amount of punishment for time-wasting and hacking down Messi/ pushing two of his NT mates.. LFP/UEFA are funny..

      • December 1, 2010

        I think that Laporta would have in the here and now, though, given the whole MesCatalanismo sweepstakes going on these days.

    • Jose
      December 1, 2010

      You know, it remains our dirty little secret that the Copa Catalunya was the only trophy that we didn’t win in our 2009-2010 Hexa season… Coulda been a Hepta!

    • Extreme barca fan
      December 1, 2010

      Actually you’r right Kevin, what i ment to say and should have said: that who gives a damn on the sporting level, but on the cultural level this is very important especially for FC Barcelona as WE are the protagonists of the Catalan culture.

  10. GREECE BARCA
    December 1, 2010

    A question:Can messi be our xavi in 2 season from now??Or iniesta will be the new xavi??

    • December 1, 2010

      Dunno. But certainly when Messi loses that step or two, that would be a logical position for him. Problem is that it’s going to be occupied by Iniesta, who I honestly think is the next Xavi. It’s also why Thiago has a much brighter long-term future with this club, given his adaptability (crack, anyone?) than Dos Santos, who seems to have fallen by the wayside.

      The nice thing about all this is I think that Fabregas is a forgotten name, not only because of the club’s austerity program, but our talent.

      Another thing about Messi and his playmaking. If that trend continues, and we keep making the runs like Villa did, Messi will be unplayable. Play him for the run, he kills you with the pass. Play him for the pass, he runs past you. It’s just so potentially nasty!

      I could see our midfield of the future as: Iniesta/Thiago/Busquets, with Afellay as the first sub, if his talent pans out.

    • December 1, 2010

      They will both be the maestros of Barcelona with time. without the need to become Xavi clones.

      • December 1, 2010

        True. To amplify, there is only one Xavi. Iniesta will be his version of the player in that Xavi role.

        • Amira
          December 1, 2010

          So you think that Messi will always be a striker and not go into the midfield?? What do you mean about him being unplayable?

          (Sorry about the stupid question. Haven’t had my morning coffee yet! :))

          • December 1, 2010

            I think that if Messi continues to develop as a playmaker, with the player that he is now, defenses won’t know what the hell to do with him. They will say to Guardiola, “We’ll knock the ball into our own net twice, and spot you two. Just don’t play the midget. Thanks.”

            Until now, defenses have been playing Messi for the run. Look at how the EE defense moves toward him when he has the ball, opening up space for Villa to run into. Then Messi kills them with the pass. If defenses get tired of that and stick tight, Messi can make the run. It’s like Michael Vick, only not a dog-fighting asshole. Or when Michael Jordan developed a jump shot, then a fallaway jumper. They just become uncontrollable. It also prolongs their career.

            Think about it. A goal is a goal. Would Messi love to score it? Sure. But why not kill a team with a great assist, as he did on Monday? We still win, and he’s still amazing, only more so.

          • IS
            December 1, 2010

            Agree with Kxevin on the Messi development bit but think that for the foreseeable future his role won’t change much from what we’ve seen this season and only when seemingly necessary will we deploy the EE tactic and keep him that far from goal.

            Goals are the juice that keeps any forward ticking and running after that ball time and time again. Is Messi more disciplined and tactically aware than most? Definitely. My concern for the future (realllly long-term thinking) is that if Messi is ever a few goals off of breaking ALL the remaining stats at this club (and beyond?) and he simultaneously loses a few paces – well then it’ll be very difficult for him and for the club not to give him the chance to reach his goals by placing him as a striker. Cus in that distant, distant future, goals would be more reflective of viagra for the impotent.

            Anyway, my money’s on Messi breaking all stats of all time and seamlessly dropping back to cause midfield havoc in his twilight years, taking over for a 40yo Ghostface and a partnering a world-class Thiago..

  11. Diego S.
    December 1, 2010

    I had internet problems for the last couple of days. I’ll post my comments on the match later. Kari should do all the heavy live-blogging from now on. The Best Live-Blog Debut EVER !!

    Due to Internet trouble, I have no pictures from the Classico. Any Gallery Links would be highly appreciated. I want a picture of Pique doing the 5 sign. 😀

  12. stowe
    December 1, 2010

    I believe messi would excel at midfield but I believe he will always be positioned higher on the pitch, closer to the box, with three midfielders behind him. Of course, if he loses that step (he’s still 23, don’t most reach peaks around 27?) Barca will need to get another speedy attacker to take his place.
    As for Eto’o coming back, I think we are missing a player like him. Pep wanted a plan B and got a tall player, now we don’t even have anyone as tall as Eto’o. Are we back to only plan A?

  13. K(legit)
    December 1, 2010

    Diego
    I put some links for you in the previous post

    EE transfer news (Ok it was Balague on Revista) says they are linked to Adebayor who was linked with us some time ago

    Graham Hunter is an awesome journo..at the start of Revista he did that ‘Manita’ thing that Pique did at the end of the Clasico
    I lol’d hard

  14. December 1, 2010

    Clarification from Sid Lowe, via Twitter:

    @kevvwill Yes, really. He’s the one player in the Barcelona team no one ever seems to have a good word for. (Personally, I like him.)

        • Vj
          December 1, 2010

          I thought Busi..

          4-5 seasons ago, It was Xavi, when Ronnie was raising hell..

          People don’t give our players their due unless they hammer them and they have no choice left..

  15. December 1, 2010

    Higuain out for 2-3 months for EE. That sucks for them, and I’ll say right now that only a churl would be happy about that. It could be Messi, and we would be scoffing at them for showing joy.

    • soccermomof4
      December 1, 2010

      How’d he go from not pasing a fitness test for Monday to being out 2-3 months? Wasn’t he available on the bench for them on Monday?

    • soccermomof4
      December 1, 2010

      Just checked EE site. He has a disk herniation (L5-S1). I’ve had that exact same injury. It hurts horribly (pain and nunbness radiate down your leg)!!!!!! Poor guy.

      • outerspacedout
        December 1, 2010

        Higuain is maybe my favorite guy from EE. I hated it after he saved their asses so many times in previous seasons, how their fans and press were hating on him endlessly last season. He used to be clinical, no wonder the pressure got to him and he started to miss chances in the big games after the hate-fest began then (after he was blamed for the Clasico loss and the Lyon loss, the latter in which he DID miss chances but every striker can have off-days). I was so happy that at least he wasn’t on the pitch when Real lost 5-0 cos you just know they would have blamed Higuain for it if he were on the pitch for some reason.

        Like Tim Stannard mentioned in La Liga Loca column, Marca and AS were horrified cos the 5-0 loss didn’t feature the two people they generally liked to blame for Real Madrid failures, in Pellegrini and Higuain.

        http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/laligaloca/archive/2010/11/30/madridista-press-brand-bar-231-a-bad-winners-while-catalonia-celebrates-bathtime.aspx

        ‘It’s always a fine sign that a thorough spanking combined with a bespoke *rse-handing-on-a-plate has been dished out when the big fat losers start moaning and groaning that the opposition are bad winners.
        That’s the approach a shell-shocked Marca has adopted, on Tuesday, with the paper having no doubt attempted but failed to blame their usual scapegoats, Manuel Pellegrini and Gonzalo Higuaín, for the night before.
        The whopping problem the paper faces in reacting to the monumental stonking is that its apron-strings are tied so tightly to their Castle Greyskull controllers that awkward questions such has whence The Special One? Whither Karim Benzema? and why Cristiano Ronaldo? have been cast aside.’

    • Extreme barca fan
      December 1, 2010

      Gonzalo is a wonderful player, I’m not happy he is injured as a person but i like the fact that EE will be a lesser team without him.
      However, knowing EE and their president they will buy 5 or 6 strikers to replace him in the January transfer window

    • blitzen
      December 1, 2010

      Wow, that’s really crappy for him, he’s been having a good season so far. I couldn’t help wondering whether Monday’s game would have been any different if he had been fit to play. Any thoughts on that, anyone?

      Speaking of which, that means RM will be lacking three of their key players for their next game, which is Valencia, I think. Higuain, Ramos, and Carvalho (I think) will all be out. Valencia is on a hot streak again. Could they beat RM? I think it is a real possibility.

  16. Kari
    December 1, 2010

    Sucks for Higuain. Of all the EE starting XI players, I dislike him probably the least. He’s loyal to Madrid even though he’s treated like crap by their press (he and Pelle were the scapegoats last year).

    When I found out he wasn’t starting the game and Benzema replaced him, I knew EE just suffered a huge loss before a ball was kicked.

    • Vj
      December 1, 2010

      Gee I thought it was was of Mou’s mindgames..

      Higuain has the burden of being a Calderon signing in FloFlo’s regime – he’ll never get due credit from the press even though he’s their clutch guy..

      People still blame him for the loss against Lyon.. Sad..

    • HY
      December 1, 2010

      Higuain’s the one RM player that I can actually tolerate. It was nice to see him give Messi a hug as the players were lining up on Monday. That’s the right way to treat a fellow NT teammate. I hope his recovery goes well.

  17. Vj
    December 1, 2010

    Barcelona in first 13 games since Guardiola is coach:
    08-09: 32 points
    09-10: 33 points
    10-11: 34 points

    via @barcacstuff via @latdp

    • IS
      December 1, 2010

      I knew that stat existed… It’s just beautiful to look at…

  18. Kari
    December 1, 2010

    Want something to giggle about?

    “Scorefests do not make great matches, two teams playing well do”

    “Landslides such as those inflicted and suffered by Manchester United and racked up by Barcelona in the past few days are not great matches and can even be boring”

    /http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/dec/01/scorefests-great-matches-manchester-united-barcelona

    • momo
      December 1, 2010

      Psshhhhh Yeah I would rather watch a 2010 cagey world cup style draw where every other play is either a foul or a long ball and both teams fail to make 3 consecutive passes.

    • IS
      December 1, 2010

      Kari, you should have pity on those of lesser football IQs…

  19. ooga aga
    December 1, 2010

    get back soon higuain, it is better for La Liga if we have a healthy Barca AND a healthy RM

    • Jose
      December 1, 2010

      Well, IMO, what’s best for La Liga is a healthy and strong Valencia, Sevilla, ATM, and Villareal, with a Real Madrid in the relegation zone. 😛

      • K(legit)
        December 1, 2010

        and a Real Betis in administration..I have never liked them

      • Extreme barca fan
        December 1, 2010

        Completely agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

  20. K(legit)
    December 1, 2010

    If you really really want to giggle here is this gem:

    if a parent doesn’t like a child and leave him and go…

    if some other parents took him and brought up..one day he become as a great men(sic)…

    ..now the original parents is asking him back….

    this is wat(sic) happening….here

    (Gooner talking abt the Cesc transfer saga..excuse the English)

  21. Jose
    December 1, 2010

    So, uh… less than 24 hours to go until we know who’s hosting the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.

    Excited?

  22. Auld Super
    December 1, 2010

    So Mourinho got away with his blatant cheating in the champions league. Fining him 40,000 euro is meaningless, the two players should have been banned for 3 games each and him also to stamp it out. UEFA are a joke and this was a good chance to teach that asshole a lesson but they bottled it again.

    I think the problem with Alves is the agent.

    • Jose
      December 1, 2010

      Call me crazy, but I really didn’t see why EE got fined at all. Everybody does that, nabbing yellow cards to get their suspension out of the way for a meaningless match. I remember us doing it, I distinctly remember Liverpool doing it against PSG in the Champions League knockouts (after going like 4-0 up in the first leg) a few years ago. Nobody batted an eye.

      Was it just because Mourinho was so stupidly blatant about it? Someone explain it to me…

      • December 1, 2010

        To me yeah. In other instances the players themselves get wise and make that decision.

        There is a pretty damning shot of Mou giving the players in question instructions right before they made those fouls.

        It’s kinda like a “comon man we all do it just don’t be so damn obvious about it” fine.

        Notice how they only suspended players / Mou for the game that Madrid already considers meaningless. It was just a slap on the wrist by EUFA not to do it that obviously again.

      • Auld Super
        December 2, 2010

        I think he wants to be seen to be in control of everything. I remember him sitting on the chelsea bench whispering into steve clarks ear every 2 seconds like some general at war or something, much like you see from young children, the guys a muppit.

  23. Auld Super
    December 1, 2010

    I just remembered what mourinho said about Villa when a reporter asked him about benzema’s lack of goals. I bet he feels like a tool now but then again this is mourinho so probably not.

  24. momo
    December 1, 2010

    OMG! This comment on goal just made my day (especially the last line)
    Enjoy this well thought out comment:
    “I AM A REAL FAN!.i don’t think that Mou is less of a genius because of a loss. Instead i think He to demonstrate even more his genius when Real recovers and learn from their big blunders. Ozil and rest of the team will become tighter and play like a team and win the return leg of the El clasico.Real has die like the phoenix, BUT only rise from the asses.GO REAL”

    Wow.

    • K(legit)
      December 1, 2010

      rise from the ‘asses’
      really?
      disturbing imagery that!
      NFSW ppl NFSW

  25. cita
    December 1, 2010

    Regular lurker here. I haven’t seen this posted here, perhaps because it’s already common knowledge, but in case it’s not, TV3 has a lovely stream of the Copa Catalunya going on their website: **http://www.elsesports.cat/directes/especials/

    I assume it will continue through the evening (or afternoon or morning depending on your location)

  26. Diego S.
    December 1, 2010

    No comments about the match, really. It was one of the best games we’ve ever played during the Pep era. But I have one thing to say.
    Crashing the box is something we still have to work on. Pedro’s 2nd goal, Watch it again. Messi was standing same position as Villa did in Panathinaikos. Pedro was semi-running at first as he wasn’t sure.

    • momo
      December 1, 2010

      I disagree, I think it was one of things Pep made sure to address before the game. Think back to the second goal where pedro crashed the box, had messi also gone in there he would have dragged carvalho with him closing down the angle of the ball that eventually got to pedro. The first goal was created by a very unexpected xavi run into the box. The last goal had iniesta and jefferen crashing in there. You’re right to a certain extent in that we don’t crash nearly as much as we did in the 08/09 season, nonetheless it doesn’t seem to be an issue anymore.

      • Diego S.
        December 1, 2010

        It depends on how you see it. The 2nd Goal, If Villa and Messi ran at the same time, Messi could’ve scored (ala Messi, Henry against Bayern). Messi didn’t see Pedro, He just stood there. The last goal wasn’t crashing the box per say. The box was already empty, Crashing the box is usually a player running through the defenders to the near post.

        • Jim
          December 1, 2010

          It certainly wasn’t as much of an issue against RM. First, second and even last goals were great examples of us attacking balls into the box. Loved the way Iniesta bust a gut in the last minute to try to get on the end of that cross.

        • blitzen
          December 1, 2010

          Pedro didn’t just “stand there”. He started to run, paused to see what Marcelo was going to do (ignore him, heh heh), then made the run around him and got the perfect spot at the exact second he needed to be. He only hesitated to make sure Marcelo wasn’t marking him. It was a beautifully-timed play.

  27. Para
    December 1, 2010

    I’m struggling to find a link for the copa. Does anyone have one?

    • Para
      December 1, 2010

      ahem. Nevermind- I see the one cita posted above. Thank you!

  28. Diego S.
    December 1, 2010

    Big Thanks to K(legit) for the Pics.

    • Miguel
      December 1, 2010

      “si pero eto’o ya no esta aqui.”

      “pero son el mismo actor!”

      -clasico.

  29. Kari
    December 1, 2010

    Line-up (vs Espanyol): Pinto – Adriano Bartra Fontas Maxwell – Thiago Mascherano Keita – VictorVazquez Bojan Jeffren

    • IS
      December 1, 2010

      We’re taking it pretty serious… MoreCuleThanThouFoShow

  30. Jnice
    December 1, 2010

    Let’s go Victor Veezy. Show ’em why you used to be hyped.

  31. Kari
    December 1, 2010

    We’re kinda outta of it. Not surprised

  32. Kxevin
    December 1, 2010

    Funny seeing everyone with no names on the shirts.

  33. Kari
    December 1, 2010

    Thiago’s wearing the number 4. Symbolic?

    • cliveee
      December 1, 2010

      definitely. is he sending a message to the Catalan player who is playing for a London Club?

  34. Kari
    December 1, 2010

    espanyol more or less playing with their first team [barcastuff]

    LOL

  35. cliveee
    December 1, 2010

    what kind of ball are they using? looks so old school and strange.

    Bartra and Fontas are having a “who looks more like Pique” contest.

  36. cliveee
    December 1, 2010

    down 0-2 , i think we will lose.

  37. jordi(TM)
    December 1, 2010

    |:> dont like losing to the pericos :/

  38. jordi(TM)
    December 1, 2010

    😀 Yea show them Bartra! Loved thebadge kiss.

  39. jordi(TM)
    December 1, 2010

    We shouldve started Tello just to rub it in their faces 😀

  40. Kxevin
    December 1, 2010

    Ah, yes. Another empty box greets a cross.

  41. Jnice
    December 1, 2010

    LOL Victor V looks so bad.

    Why didn’t Thiago play more of a central role? We moved the ball better when he was there.

  42. Diego S.
    December 1, 2010

    Jnice !! I have two things to ask you :

    1- Download Links for Our goals against EE in HD

    2- Season Review or Liga Review containing all our goals from last season’s La Liga (Or anything similar).

    Thanks in Advance.

    • Jnice
      December 1, 2010

      The links for the games are in the previous posts. There are a lot of them.

      I’ll look for the season review.

      • Jnice
        December 1, 2010

        Found this: Barcelona Goals in Season 09-10

        *http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?lmydgyghym1
        *http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?uznwynyzrke
        *http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3d22lytnmtz
        *http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?kidd2djnnd5
        *http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?uo0zzmjo5mo
        *http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mtyaokn2vm0
        *http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nwy1zzxlzvn
        *http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ztqytylz2wd
        *http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?qinmwimm3wm
        *http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?innm2ttnqmj
        *http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mtwjlnttnkl
        *http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zvmmm4mhiyo

        Credit to FC Blugrana at fbtz.com

      • Diego S.
        December 1, 2010

        I don’t want the whole match. Just the Goals. If Possible 😀

        • December 1, 2010

          Actually putting together a vid of goals right now…maybe uploaded by tomorrow morning if you want to wait.

  43. Kxevin
    December 1, 2010

    Didn’t see. How the HELL did we give up 2 in 2 minutes to the same player?

    • Miguel
      December 1, 2010

      i’d like to see that goal bartra scored, too.

  44. jhargrid
    December 1, 2010

    Remember Caesar, thou art mortal.

  45. Kxevin
    December 1, 2010

    Full time. @#@&$@% Espanyol wins Copa Catalunya.

  46. Miguel
    December 1, 2010

    i only caught the last 10 minutes. looks like espanyol are champs.

    • Miguel
      December 1, 2010

      i just realized there’d be a third match. ha! hell jeyah. dos santos is finally getting some minutes.

    • Miguel
      December 1, 2010

      is there a chance barca can still win this thing? i’m confused. can we use substitutes?

      • Robert
        December 1, 2010

        No. Espanyol won both of their games so they win the copa.
        I assume they can use subs as usual. The only real difference is that the game is 45 min.

      • Para
        December 1, 2010

        No chance we can still win, I think–because it would still be one loss and one win, while Espanyol would have the two wins.

      • Jnice
        December 1, 2010

        No, this a dead rubber game. Espanyol already beat Hospitalet, so they win.

        And I think we can use subs. Espanyol made a sub.

  47. ooga aga
    December 1, 2010

    3 teams, round robin, espanyol has already played twice and won both, so they are champs. this is the consolation match now. we have completely swapped our 11.

    • Miguel
      December 1, 2010

      knew it was a round robin but didn’t know espanyol had won the first game. thanks for clarifying.

  48. Miguel
    December 1, 2010

    is that elses link working for anybody anymore?

  49. ooga aga
    December 1, 2010

    JDS with nice goal from a free kick!

  50. ooga aga
    December 1, 2010

    well its working fine for me
    *http://www.elsesports.cat/directes/especials/

    • Miguel
      December 1, 2010

      it was for me too. i’m depressed now :v(

    • Miguel
      December 1, 2010

      woohoo, i’m back! only missed 5 goals.

  51. Helge
    December 1, 2010

    Disgraceful performance by the Spanish teams in the Europa League season. I hope at least Villarreal will make it!
    Bundesliga will most-likely overtake Spain next season in the 5 year ranking (because the Barca CL and Sevilla UEFA-Cup winner season drops out).

    • Kari
      December 1, 2010

      But Pathetico won the Europa last season. That counts for something doesn’t it?

    • BA
      December 1, 2010

      Germany will be taking that spot from Italy, not Spain.

  52. Miguel
    December 1, 2010

    yo jnice, question. i know jds played as a defensive mid in the preseason and it looks like he’s playing there again today, but has he played in his “regular” position since then? i haven’t seen enough games, & the ones i have seen have been on crappy streams, to really tell.

    • Jnice
      December 1, 2010

      For Barça B whenever I’ve seen him, he has played in his regular position. Romeu plays as the defensive mid.

  53. cliveee
    December 1, 2010

    If it was number 20 Dos Santos was wearing, then I will say he didn’t play well, and he is quite far from being a senior of our school. He will need to stay more than a year with the B team.

    • Kxevin
      December 1, 2010

      His number is 20, cliveee, for sure. Then again, I think that Thiago was wearing number 4, so who knows?

    • Kari
      December 1, 2010

      Agreed. (And it’s a rare Pique picture–one that where he isn’t bleeding 😀 )

  54. Jojo
    December 1, 2010

    I would like to announce the death of Real Madrid C.F. Born 1897. Died 2010.

    Real’s life was ended by shots to the left an right corners of the goal. Real leaves ah father (Jose Mourinho), sons (Higuain, Ozil, Casillas an Benzema) an Daughter (Cristine Ronaldo) to morn its passing =D =)) 😐 The funeral service for Real Madrid will be …held at the Bernabeu on 30/11/10

    ****Saw it on Facebook and just had to post it lol :0

  55. barca96
    December 1, 2010

    Whick kid was the stand out performer in the Catalunya Cup?

  56. Dave
    December 1, 2010

    Espanyol sure they are not even Catalans but merely misplaced Madridistas.

  57. December 1, 2010

    It’s kinda interesting how all the highlights and video special for this El Classico are either banned or someone has called for copyrights. Is EE really that evil?

    • December 1, 2010

      well, not all of them of cos, but a lot of them are banned or have copyrights claim.

  58. Alexinho
    December 1, 2010

    Match review to be expected, or not worth it?

    I myself missed the match and, when I heard about the 45-minute games, didn’t mind allowing it to be spoiled.

    Although it’s upsetting to read that dos Santos performed poorly. I hope there is nothing wrong with him.

    I know that Thiago is coming through the tubes, but I remember a post Euler put up maybe a year ago now when Barca had Thiago, dos Santos, Jeffren, and Gai Assulin all up for renewal, and it really looked like we had four future stars, and we had to decide which three to keep. Now, Gai turned out to be kind of a jerk and left, it looks like Jeffren may never break through, and even Bojan might never come good. If JDS is under a cloud right now, then it’s just Thiago.

    If that’s the case, I guess I’ll just have to settle with him for the future, and Pedro, and I guess still-23 Messi 😉

    In all seriousness, I remember somewhat bitterly how Gio dos Santos left, apparently under his father’s influence, and wonder how important he could be for us now, regardless of his present form. I hope the same thing doesn’t happen to his little bro and we cut him loose as well. Did something happen when he didn’t make the Mexican World Cup squad?

    • barca96
      December 2, 2010

      Yeah yeah, you might be right about JDS.
      He was according to some ahead of THiago in the pecking order but since the summer, Pep seemed to prefer JDS and on any Barca forum nobody seems to be complaining. I guess that is due to the fact that he has not been the star for the B-team this season.
      Maybe he needs Thiago to play alongside him or he was really f-ed mentally from being omitted from the WC.

  59. Guano
    December 2, 2010

    Cristiano doubtful Sat (bruised ankle); Higuain also out…

    Two consecutive EE losses? Would be sweeeeeet!!!!

    • Jose
      December 2, 2010

      Beware what you wish for… two consecutive losses would only set the stage for the Evil Empire to rise from the asses.

      • barca96
        December 2, 2010

        I literally had to read your line again halfway as I couldn’t believe you would say such a thing about them and you had me fooled right there 😆

    • December 2, 2010

      expect them to win, because Ramos is suspended. they also play at home.

  60. Jojo
    December 2, 2010

    Yup JDS was for sure number 20, but what was even more interesting is that Pep played Thiago,Barta and Fontas with the big boys from the 1st team..

    Should be an indication that this is Milito last season in the colors as Pep seems to be grooming both Barta and Fontas for next season…(most definitely Fontas IMO)

    The number 4 shirt would always be vacant for Cesc, Pep just really wants to work with him @ barca before he leaves us to coach somewhere else..I strongly believe Pep is building the team/squad up to last and play without him eventually.

    IMO I think his master plan is to introduce the next generation of at least 5 key-players to the 1st team in maybe 3-4 years tops so the retirement or aging of Xavi,Puyol,Valdes etc wouldn’t damage the team but strive without him or them when he eventually leaves.

    Basically building the foundation for the future in terms of our mentality and in ways of a self-standing team in which Cruyff didn’t leave when he left as 1st team coach.

    • barca96
      December 2, 2010

      I hope whatever you’re saying is really on Pep’s mind.
      I really wouldn’t mind if he left us 5 years later when we have a new young core of the team in the likes to replace the current core of;
      Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, Pedro with
      Fontas, Thiago, Muniesa, Bartra, JDS, Romeu.

      I didn’t include Dani and Messi as they are not from this world.
      I have never seen a player like those 2 ever in my 15 years of watching football.

      • Benj
        December 2, 2010

        Im confused, in 5 years you think that Iniesta, Pique and Pedro are going to be ready to be replaced?

        Iniesta will be 31, and will most probably be moved into the Xavi role which he should be able to do for another 3 years or so, Pique will be 28 and probably in his prime, and Pedro will also be 28, ambidextrous and hopefully one of the most complete forwards ever!

        • barca96
          December 2, 2010

          No, I hope a new core will be ready by then to take over the mantle so that there won’t be a long transition period like at Man U.
          95-2000 and then they had to wait till 2005 for a new team to dominate the league/world.
          Arsenal are still waiting… :p

          • IS
            December 2, 2010

            Wishing to have the kids ready to step in as core players in 4-5years would be nice. Only problem with that approach is that they themselves will be in the 24-26 age group and should have had plenty of top-flight first team experience in order to develop appropriately. Otherwise, we’ll have to watch them playing for other sides across Europe.

            It’s a lot more appropriate in my opinion to picture them taking over the non-masia roles over the coming years. (Don’t get me wrong though, I’m all for bringing in top talent to support the system)

            Luckily, the core you’re referring to is quite spread out as we have players that are between 22-32 which is perfect since that will allow a very gradual core transformation with a couple players being replaced every couple years.

            Man U was in a rather different situation as there were too many ‘core’ players leaving in a short period of time. I mean, even now, you can already see what it means to them as they are preparing to deal with the loss of giggs, scholes and van der sar over the coming year.

  61. barca96
    December 2, 2010

    Oh shit. I don’t really believe this.
    It says on Pep’s twitter that sMasch wants to leave.
    I just can’t believe that. He has been saying all along that he understands his position etc.

    I was hoping that he would get some minutes though last night. Was waiting for Xavi to come off for sMasch but he didn’t even get to warm up.

    • Jnice
      December 2, 2010

      Silly rumors. His recent comments indicate his professionalism. He won’t be leaving anytime soon.

      • barca96
        December 2, 2010

        Plus, he played a lot for the past few weeks and being MotM in some of them.
        How come you’re always commenting.
        I notice a trend here, most of the North Americans post when it’s late night time in Asia cause it’s daytime in America but you’re on when it’s during the day and night here. It’s like you’re always connected to BFB 🙂

  62. barca96
    December 2, 2010

    Pep quiz
    **http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/quiz/2010/nov/30/pep-guardiola-barcelona-quiz

    I only got 7 out of 10.
    Im pretty sure I got his bday, national caps and one more wrong.

    • K(legit)
      December 2, 2010

      9 out of 10..I didn’t know which English keeper shared his Bday with Pep

  63. extreme barca fan
    December 2, 2010

    Guys this is a stupid question and three days late, but why do you think that mourinho didnt park the bus against us?
    I wish to have the thoughts of every body here

    • soccermomof4
      December 2, 2010

      IMVHO
      1) He didn’t have the defensive talent to work with.
      2) He had to go for a win not a draw or Flo would’ve had a cow.

  64. OSBAG
    December 2, 2010

    I really wish our plyers could be like machines and play every day. Wagching barca play is really refreshing

  65. Jnice
    December 2, 2010

    Lost in all of the adulation and praise is the fact that we have a very difficult encounter this weekend in Pamplona.

    I think I’m right in saying they are yet to be defeated at home. Last season we drew there, I think Pique scored an own goal in the dying minutes. The year before, Messi spanked one in with about 5 minutes to go in an intense and foggy match.

    Osasuna players are already saying they won’t make it easy for us and that we won’t score 5 goals against them, which is probably true. The fans in that stadium are ridiculous. Always whistling every call, influencing the ref, etc.

    I’m nervous. Hope the players are up for a battle and are as motivated to win as they were against Madrid.

  66. K(legit)
    December 2, 2010

    As for me playing the Kari GIF’er Extraordinaire role, here are some gems from the last Clasico and its aftermath

    1. Mou Mou in the post match press-con
    //http://h-5.abload.de/img/mourinho0mgb.gif

    2. Messi’s Mad Boy look
    //http://h-5.abload.de/img/fcbarcelona-realmadrid8mp5.gif

    3. Best Gif ever (unless yous luurvves Cristiano ie)
    //http://h-5.abload.de/img/piqhm2l.gif

    4. And this youtube video of Laudrup and Romario’s own footsie
    //http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfDdTgM2CeU

    • Jnice
      December 2, 2010

      So you’re moBbad on the Guardian blogs?

      • K(legit)
        December 2, 2010

        Naah I am not.
        In hindsight I should have given a shout-out to the guy though.

        He had an epic fest with ‘Tiagosong’

        Credits to moBbad on the Sid Lower article comments page for the gifs

  67. Jose
    December 2, 2010

    Watching the Spain/Portugal bid presentation… looks good. Then they announced that the final would be in the Santiago Bernabeu… bah

    Oh, an apparently they will plant a thousand trees for every goal scored, in the city where they are scored.

    • Jose
      December 2, 2010

      Oh, but the Camp Nou will be the opening match!

      Portugal, apparently, is getting absolutely hosed with the match placement… they’ll get 3rd placed match and maybe a semifinal.

      • December 2, 2010

        Spain needed Portugal to co-host the WC or else they will have no hope (Spain were the hosts in 1982). That is.

  68. Jim
    December 2, 2010

    Just want to wish all you in Spain the best with the WC bid. Please, please don’t let England win it. Our lives north of the border would be unbearable. I’m listening to Sky News bad mouthing the Spain/ Portugal bid just now. They seem to think that the mere presence of Beckham ensures success. Never has a player in the history of the game been so overhyped imo.

    Besides, I’m harbouring a thought that Spain might be based around Barcelona for the group stages ? If so, I quite fancy trying to get a ticket and supporting them – in the unlikely event that Scotland don’t qualify, of course.

  69. K(legit)
    December 2, 2010

    Epic highlights package
    //http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHOkE14XHwg&feature=player_embedded
    Take my advice and download this bad boy

  70. VicNZ
    December 2, 2010

    If England get this world cup im not going to hear the end of it here in NZ. The media here bend over backwards over the poms whether it be prince Williams wedding or their biasim towards english football, all you hear about is the EPL on the news and everyone here thinks its the best league in the world bar none. Though it was refreshing to see they had a segment on El Classico for once but it was probably due to it being a tuesday game and there was no other footballing news. I want Spain to win it purely because its my other country,although Russia showed an interesting bid. I see it as un fair even though its unrelated that if England got it they would have the 2012 olimpics and well as the 2018 world cup. Hoping the aussies get the 2022 one tho!

  71. K(legit)
    December 2, 2010

    Worst
    Shot
    Ever

    //http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TtruzMfXZU

  72. K(legit)
    December 2, 2010

    Do we really need to hate this guy more?
    //http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/mourinho-losing-barcelona-7725482/
    Mou’s post match press-con..what an arrogant tool!

  73. K(legit)
    December 2, 2010

    EMD says that after the Guardiola-Crynaldo showing match Crynaldo was confronted by Pedro and Crynaldo did some more showes and asked Pedro ‘Who are you eh?!’
    hmm..dodgy memory Cristiano..The little Canarian has two more El Clasico goals than you no?

    • Jose
      December 2, 2010

      And a World Cup winner who was a starter in the Final less than two years after playing in the lower divisions of Spanish futbol?

      • K(legit)
        December 2, 2010

        I was going for the most recent aspect where Pedro pwns TB but mets make a list how Pedro outranks Crynaldo no? ‘Twill be fun me thinks:
        For starters, Pedro is NOiT a diving, preening, posturing, whining, bitching, moaning Prima-donna
        FTW!

    • Jnice
      December 2, 2010

      I didn’t know exactly what Cristiano said, but I could tell by the way he looked at Pedro, he said something of the sort.

  74. Kxevin
    December 2, 2010

    Morning mirth:

    –We have reopened transfer talks with Arsenal over Fabregas, with one likely coat-effective optionn being a swap for Busquets. Wow.

    On the Alves front, Citeh is still rumored to be the front runner, though I can’t believe that he isn’t learning from the example of The Yaya.

    I think Alves will be successful wherever he plays (unlike Busquets, who needs this system as much as the system needs him). But he will not be as good anywhere as he is with us.

    Tell me The Yaya didn’t watch El Cllasic and feel twinges. Or maybe he sat there and said “Hmph. They wouldn’t have played me anyway.” Doubtful.

    Busquets isn’t going anywhere. Alves however very well could. If that is allowed to happen, it would be a HUGE black eye to the Rosell regime, who would be perceived as having penny-pinched Alves out of town.

    Mascherano just got here. No way he wants to leave. If he does, let him. Everyone knows my views on want-away players.

    • K(legit)
      December 2, 2010

      After the last 2/3 performances by Alves I don’t think there is any logic involved in letting him go..In other words “Pay Da Man!”

      • Kxevin
        December 2, 2010

        Well, the very clear complexities are the existing wage structure and the club’s unwillingness to upset the apple cart, so to speak. Laporta would have done the deal in two seconds, but it’s very clear that the new boys don’t think much of ANYTHING that Laporta did, who would have just paid Alves, then handed out raises to everyone.

        You can see the club’s resistance to that approach. Middle ground is being sought.

        • K(legit)
          December 2, 2010

          how much is the difference between the Club’s offer and Alves’s ask? Can this turn into a Ashley Cole-Arsenal case then?

          • December 2, 2010

            “how much is the difference between the Club’s offer and Alves’s ask?”

            It sounded as if you are opening your wallet to pay the difference and solve the case.

            Oh Ashley’s head was already elsewhere. I doubt it is the case with Alves.

          • K(legit)
            December 2, 2010

            lol as if I could pay the difference..if it was INR maybe..Euro’s a bit much for me financial standing you see 😀

          • Vj
            December 2, 2010

            about 2M euros I guess..

            I’m happy to throw in my INR 9k/month stipend if you’re starting a bid to pay the difference 😛

        • December 2, 2010

          “Laporta would have done the deal in two seconds”

          I am not that sure. If I remember well, Laporta and co refused to meet Yaya’s demand in the first place (even though everyone was screaming: Pay the man-Me excluded). They refused to meet Alves demands till their last day in the power hall, and that is exactly why the current board will be dealing with the hot cookie.

    • soccermomof4
      December 2, 2010

      We have WHAT? We would swap WHOM? No way….please say it’s not gonna happen!

  75. K(legit)
    December 2, 2010

    From barcastuff:
    As last weekend, a Barcelona scout will tomorrow follow Benfica left back Fabio Coentrao (22) in a league game. Buyout clause: 30M

    hmm…

    • Vj
      December 2, 2010

      Russia to host 2018, England got knocked out in the first round..

      Lemme guess, Qatar for 2022?

  76. Vj
    December 2, 2010

    Qatar to host the 2022 WC..

    Yup, I guessed that one right..

    • K(legit)
      December 2, 2010

      I am so going for that..One of my closest friends lives in Qatar

      • Vj
        December 2, 2010

        Making plans for something happening in 2022 already?

        • K(legit)
          December 2, 2010

          lol with the existing air travel rates you should start planning as early as possible

  77. Roz
    December 2, 2010

    Wow WC 2022 in Qatar. I expect some amazing stadiums.

      • Roz
        December 2, 2010

        Agreed. But hey Pep wants it so who are we to argue:P

      • Jose
        December 2, 2010

        Second lesson: FIFA ExCo members will vote for anyone who will fill their pockets and leave some sort of “legacy” as long as they’re old enough and the tournament far away enough that they won’t have to live with the consequences. 😛

        Happy for Russia, WTFed for Qatar.

      • December 2, 2010

        Third lesson: Do your homework before you jump to conclusions, or else you will smell arrogance.

        but wait! I am going to write about it! Yeap…I will!

    • Extreme barca fab
      December 2, 2010

      Sad to see some angry people here about the Qatar bid, i will not go into a debate of they did – no they didn’t buy the votes.
      For me its a very good thing since i live 400 miles away from Qatar so this means I’ll be there and i hope each and every one of you will be able to do that if that is what you want.

      • Kari
        December 2, 2010

        Personally, I’m really happy Qatar got the WC. It’s about time the Middle East got it. They’re football fanatics over there. The stadiums will be beautiful for sure.

        I think what the people above meant (about the oil money) was that there won’t be any problems financially (i.e. they have enough money to make sure everything goes smoothly; to get enough good workers that will finish the stadiums without any complications; proper security; fix any problems in transportations; build super gorgeous hotels….). I’m thinking about the huge fuss that surrounded South Africa’s stadiums and what’s going on in Ukraine supposedly and I’d imagine FIFA would like that financial security.

        I don’t think they meant buying votes literally… I hope. US 2022 would have been nice just because I could get there much easier, but I didn’t think they’d get it over other countries that have never gotten it before.

        By the by, I wanted Spain/Portugal to win the 2018 bid. 🙁

        • Extreme barca fab
          December 2, 2010

          Thank you Kari, you are as cool as always, i also wanted 2018 to go to Spain-Portugal. but i got i out of 2 and that is very satisfying to me.
          I hope you will be able to be there when it happens, surely ill do my best to be there.

  78. Jnice
    December 2, 2010

    Great vid, basically like a mini-movie: *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHOkE14XHwg&feature=player_embedded

  79. Josep
    December 2, 2010

    Oh man just saw this today, speaking of arrogance.

    barcastuff Cristiano Ronaldo (to Pedro during a row in the clasico): “And who are you?”

    My response would be “A world cup winner, and someone who scored today, and you?”

    A little bummed U.S.A. didn’t win the bid, and all this talk of corruption with RUssia and Qatar winning is sickening. It’s clearly Blatter wanting to leave a legacy though.

    From barcastuff:
    As last weekend, a Barcelona scout will tomorrow follow Benfica left back Fabio Coentrao (22) in a league game. Buyout clause: 30M

    This made me cream my cereal this morning haha 😛

    RE:Biscuits swap for Fab. That can’t be anywhere near true. I know Arsenal are rumored to look at him, but Pep wouldn’t let a cantera player like that leave, even for another. We’d be down a DM for another Iniesta. It just wouldn’t work, we’d be even more attacking with less cover.

    And regarding that worst miss ever by O’Shea this one is worse and I watched it live. Poor guy, I like him he’s a good player.
    |http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5j3203LC3k

  80. K(legit)
    December 2, 2010

    From paradigmaguradiola:
    Aunque hoy parezca difícil suponerlo, este paradigma de juego puede perder. Los mismos que lo ponderan sin sentido, los que lo critican desde el resultado, los que no ven las virtudes sino los defectos del rival, no tardarán en variar sus discursos.

    Qué el último partido y este video sean una reivindicación al modelo de juego y al sentirlo de esa forma. Que puede perder, claro, o ganar de forma brillante. Creemos en la persistencia y en el intento de llevarlo a cabo en cualquier cultura. En la del Barcelona, con una estructura ideal para lograrlo, o en cualquier parte del mundo. La cultura del toque no tiene pasaporte

    *can anyone translate this for me please..google translate just confuses me. A gist would be fine*
    thanks

    • ooga aga
      December 2, 2010

      ill give it a shot

      Aunque hoy parezca difícil suponerlo, este paradigma de juego puede perder. Los mismos que lo ponderan sin sentido, los que lo critican desde el resultado, los que no ven las virtudes sino los defectos del rival, no tardarán en variar sus discursos.

      Even though today it appears difficult to imagine, this paradigm of play can lose. The same ones that will consider it as not sensible, those that criticize it based on the result, those that dont see the virtues but instead the defects of the rival, will not hestitate in changing their discourses.

      Qué el último partido y este video sean una reivindicación al modelo de juego y al sentirlo de esa forma. Que puede perder, claro, o ganar de forma brillante. Creemos en la persistencia y en el intento de llevarlo a cabo en cualquier cultura. En la del Barcelona, con una estructura ideal para lograrlo, o en cualquier parte del mundo. La cultura del toque no tiene pasaporte

      May the last game and this video serve as a vindication of this model of play (…) It can lose, clearly, or win in brilliant way. We believe in the persistence and in the attempt to carry it out in whichever culture. In the culture of Barcelona, with an ideal structure for achieving it, or in whichever part of the world. The culture of “el toque” (i think this means technical, tiki-taca football) has no passport.

      I think this is basically an ode to attacking, technical football…the philosophy of Barca…even though you might lose, and people will bad mouth you no matter what, stick to your guns and play football the beautiful way…

  81. majatt
    December 2, 2010

    Did anyone else click the link on Kev’s twitter and get rick rolled by spam?

    • Kxevin
      December 2, 2010

      Crap. Sorry. It worked fine for me via FireFox. The same thing happened to Jnice. I went directly to Angle Editorial’s site and grabbed the link, so I’m not sure where the spam popped in. Apologies again.

  82. Lev
    December 2, 2010

    although i am a firm supporter of getting Cesc back to Catalunya HELL NO should we trade biscuits for him.

    Also I don’t know how much of a chance Holland and Belgium would have had getting the WC (I think they should one day, because Holland is the “biggest” football nation to never host a World Cup) one of the reasons we were deemed not to have a chance is that our government refused to give in to some of Fifa’s more outlandish demands (like promising that all FIFA revenue would be tax-free).

    What I like about Qatar getting it is that they will give the stadiums to other countries afterwards. Very cool. And yes, the Middle-East is crazy about football so they deserve it, although one could doubt if Qatar is very representative of the average Middle-Eastern

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