1. K
    November 27, 2010

    In reply to Helge:
    Ich komme aus Indien und wohne in Mumbai. Aber ich will in nächste jahr Ausland fahren und dort leben.

    Also, How come so many posts popped up suddenly?
    Is it a Clasico thing..I particularly enjoyed the Charles Dickens take Isaiah. Major props 😀

    Re: topic,
    1. I think Di Maria is a very key player for them because he’s a Barca type false winger who will cut in and look for one-twos at the edge of the box. It’ll be interesting to see us combat that tactic which is essentially one of our team’s major moves two years ago.

    2. Xabi Alonso is their metronome. He plays well and we’ve got trouble.

    Some more points later when I have some more leisure time.

    • Helge
      November 27, 2010

      Ah, ich verstehe. Danke für die Antwort. Willst du in ein Deutsch-sprachiges Ausland ziehen?

      Hehe, the question is: How many posts will still be popping up until Monday? Euler seems to have some more tactical previews in his mind, which is brilliant! You better check every 4 hours for a new post 🙂

      • K
        November 27, 2010

        Ah,ich weiß nicht. Ich will aber dass.

  2. ooga aga
    November 27, 2010

    thanks for droppin knowledge, mr euler

  3. Miguel
    November 27, 2010

    good article, yo.

    roberticus (*http://santapelota.blogspot.com/2010/11/tactical-variations-for-clasico.html) seems to think that mourinho might tweak his line up for this match & thinks oezil’ll could play as a false nine, maybe. he sees barca’s high line as a concern, too.

    i’m betting on di maria being dropped for lass & mourinho reverting to a 4-3-3 like shape, but w/oezil playing on the flank switching w/ronaldo given the situation. that way they maintain numbers in the midfield and keep the whole inverted wingers/overlapping fullbacks thing going.

  4. sab
    November 27, 2010

    i understand football.i m convinced when i read this post.the 1st threat he mentioned is the left,fro marcelo.had been telling this 4 some time.
    Their speed @counter attack is lightning.look @their 2nd goal vs bilbao.that is a thing of beauty,though its not our beloved tikitaka.
    Their RHS is impressive defensively with the w rate of maria nd nw less adventurous ramos.
    Man to shut down @classico.
    In shutting down ozil it is vitally important that our dm(i prefer smash)doesnt give him the space.

  5. sab
    November 27, 2010

    btb messi nvr scrd or assited vs mou teams in 7attempts.i remember 3vsIM,1vs Chelsea(saw this 4),knw bout 1 vs Porto.wt r the other 2 ocassions?

    • outerspacedout
      November 27, 2010

      Think the rest were against Chelsea.. Barca met Chelsea in the CL in 2005 and 2006, Chelsea going through in 2005, Barca going through in 2006. Don’t think Messi played all four, if he played three of those four games it makes 7 (along with the Porto game and the three games against Inter last season).

  6. sab
    November 27, 2010

    @barca96,on the previous post.,regarding so many comments bout various cultures,i enjoyed that.this cultural difference with RM along with the hattrick of rivaldo vs los che,that made me a fan of barca@the first place.

    @outerspace,cultural xchange not being a 2way traffic is the sole reason i dnt lyk rossel w r t laporta.

    @soccermom,u enjoyed eid,good to knw.

  7. Diego S.
    November 27, 2010

    Everybody is getting Hectored.

    What Will we do about the GIFs we missed now, Kari ?

    • outerspacedout
      November 27, 2010

      What’s getting Hectored?

      I know that its a reference to an earlier poster called Hector, but for those of us who don’t know Hector, what exactly is ‘getting Hectored’?

    • Kari
      November 27, 2010

      I’m not really sure. I’ve already been (almost) Hectored twice. I could repost them all, but at the rate these posts are coming…

  8. sab
    November 27, 2010

    @outerspaced,dnt think messi played those 2 games against chelsea in 05.in 06 he didnt play the 2nd leg due 2 injury.
    Yeah,i got that a lot.wts being hectored?

  9. Helge
    November 27, 2010

    Wow, right now I’m more afraid of the Clasico than I was before…

    The tendency to play over the left wing means that Alves will have to be on his very best, defensively, and possibly neglect some of his usual offensive duties.
    Also, Pedro’s defensive work on our right side will be essential. I still don’t like Marcelo (I barely like any Real Madrid player, with just one exception in Angel Di Maria), but he has improved massively under Mourinho; Marcelo, CR and maybe Ozil is way too much to handle for Dani Alves and Puyol/Piqué alone. So for me, Pedro is a must-start on the right attacking wing, more because of his defensive qualities than his offensive contribution.

    The player that I fear individually the most is though Angel Di Maria. Fortunately, he plays on the right wing and will hopefully not be soo much in the focus. Against his pace, we surely need Abidal. I admire him for his skill and pace, but the best is his attitude with which he supports Ramos (who is not particularly good in defense) and steals the ball from opposing players.

    I’m really looking forward to your post about Madrid’s weaknesses and how we can exploit them!
    So far, Madrid seems to have a tactical advantage over our 4-3-3, but that’s just the impression of a noob – though I’ve read some articles about Mourinho actually forming his team since the very befinning of the season with the only intention to create a super-weapon against us 🙂

    • Whatever
      November 27, 2010

      In Pep we trust.

      Remember how he fielded Alves on RW last year (and I think Puyol was RB)… to close down the right flank. We basically had two RB’s. I don’t think Pep will do that this time, but I’m sure he’ll come up with something.

    • stowe
      November 27, 2010

      The thing about Alves being further up-field is he will be able (and does) stop many of those attacks before they had a chance to begin. He got an assist to pedro because of it too.

  10. sab
    November 27, 2010

    what bout putting messi in a RF,so that we dnt have to think abou marcelo in a right skewed 4 4 1 1.him being all over the pitch especially in the left side.in this probably needs pedro more than villa and must have smash just in front of the defence,biscuits further up to overcrowd their MF.BTB our defense line should nt be high lyk other matches.
    WE r barca.we just have to play our game,not bout others(arrogant though it is,its true).,but not in this game.we have 2 think of RM,they r really really strong and as much as i dislike mou he is a gr8 motivator.
    Our stat against mou team
    W 4,L 3,D 4.
    Of his 3 wins,2 was debatable,the bridge win of 4 2 was also debetable.although we should still lost that match by 3 2.1draw vs us in 06 UCL QF 2nd leg was possible due to the baddest PK Call u will ever c.
    Though in this regard i can only say we r alro lucky@SB

    • stowe
      November 27, 2010

      our defensive line has to play high so we can pressure the other team when they’re in possession. If they play deeper it creates more space for the midfield to defend and our whole defense is shot

  11. sab
    November 27, 2010

    sorry especially messi in our r8 side

  12. K
    November 27, 2010

    ahh now that I have read the post properly I have in mind the following apsects of a typical Mou team*:

    1. Score very quickly and sit back OR Stand your ground for the majority and look for a late goal by introducing fast players at the end of the game: One typical facet of Mou’s teams when they play a higher level/superior opponent is that they like to get that early goal so that they can set up defensive shop for the rest of the match. It is not an exciting way of play but it is certainly an effective one. A counter-objective is the ‘Italian’ strategy of not losing before looking to win. So the main times that our defense has to be extra careful should be the first 20 and the last 10 which is when Mou will look to go for the kill.
    How to counter this? The same way that Barca has played for the past 2-3 seasons tells me one simple fact. The entire dynamic of the Barca team specifically Pep’s Barca depends on Scoring early and Not conceeding ie not being behind for any sustained period of time because as lethal we are at 0-0 we are especially vulnerable at 0-1 maybe because this team gets nervous when they are behind.
    So score quickly and ruthlessly. And please FFS do not concede cheap goals.

    2. Compressing the space/midfield of the opponent: And no this is not analogous to pressure as Barca know. It is rather having a back 6 (4 man defense+ 2 man holding nidfield) crush any attack that comes toward them via midfield ( I am looking at your mazy midfield dribbles Leo). Also, they compress the defense whereby the opposing wingers are generally free to play crosses but which the RM (EE?) defenders are happy to defend against as they have both height and strength in defense.
    How to counter this? Make Messi play up as high as possible initially and have Iniesta play that roving role. Because as deadly Messi is with his dribbling he has that one-dribble-too-much tendency which Iniesta lacks. Another way would be to actually play Iniesta on teh right wing with Messi as the midfield man but that’s the sort of tactic Pep prefers to use when the match is won.

    3. Cut off Xabi Alonso: Crynaldo is their talisman but the bearded Basque is their heartbeat. Stop the heart and constrict their respiration. So, get Villa/Pedro and Busquets to make his life living hell by giving him no space to send one of his trademark diagonals because Alonso’s long range passing is par excellence but his short passes are the ones that can be intercepted. Since he plays slighlt to the left of midfield I assume it will Pedro’s job to suffocate him. Also Pedro’s a yellow card magnet which can always help. This is where I’d actually advocate playing Mascherano who’s a known in-your-face midfielder who knows how to play this role of suffocating the opposition’s playmaker.

    4. Make Crynaldo angtsy: How? cut-off his supply. Win a one on one with him (risky). Get under his skin by continuously goading him (Alves). In general get his panties tied up in a bunch. A frustrated Crynaldo is a “I will take on 11 players and 90k + jeering, booing, baying for blood fans” Crynaldo. Do that and you dent his effectiveness.

    This is how I think we should play this game.

    *These are just my opinions

    • K
      November 27, 2010

      1 and 2 are Mou’s tactics
      3 and 4 are our specific ways of play

  13. outerspacedout
    November 27, 2010

    I have recently had the Bang Bang song from How I Met Your Mother (*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf19FYXF9-c) stuck in my head. I have also had the Clasico match stuck in my head. So I ended up merging them. Like this:

    Oh we will bang, bang, bangity bang, bang bang bangity bang (Real Madrid!) bang bang bangity bang, bang bang bangity bang (Real Madrid!), bang(bang!) bang(bang!) bang(bang!) bang(bang!) bang bang bangity bang REAL MADRID!

    To the tune of the original song.

  14. stowe
    November 27, 2010

    thanks for the insight Euler. How come your not listed on the writers page? under where it says “about”?

    for those who are new (and man there are a ton of you guys). “Hectored” means you write a long comment on an old post just as a new one goes up. I know this post isn’t the newest, but I think people are still reading it.

    • outerspacedout
      November 27, 2010

      Okay thanks that makes sense now

  15. Alexinho
    November 27, 2010

    A post from Euler…BWAAAHHT??

    Quality as always-

  16. momo
    November 27, 2010

    Brilliant stuff Euler, can’t wait for the other parts (especially the third as I’m really interested in hearing about your suggestions for subduing their counters).

  17. terence
    November 27, 2010

    Very interesting read. Especially the part about C. Ronaldo functioning as a 10 on the left flank. Much of Madrid’s attack does go through him. And this can be a problem for them sometimes. Although he has improved since the start of the season, his decision-making can be rather poor at times. Something that opposing teams can seek to exploit, as K suggests above.

  18. SoccerMom
    November 28, 2010

    Ah, I’m so much smarter now!
    Thanks Euler!

  19. Q7
    November 28, 2010

    Great Article, but sadly for Barca Los Madrilenos will be far too strong. Barca will not be able to cope with the attacling power of Los Madrilenos.

    Cristiano ‘the Bull el Torrerino’ Ronaldo will Charge and boss the Midfiled to put Messi in his place.

    Mezut ‘the Eagle Owl’ Oezil will swoop down to tear pieces out of Pique and Puyol.

    Ronaldo ‘the Serpent’ Gonzalez will sink his fangs into Victor Valdez.

    Karim ‘the Puma’ Benzema will claw away Xavi and Iniesta.

    Iker ‘the Rock’ Casillas will stand like a Rock.

    Madrid 4 – Barca 1.

    • Clue(less)
      November 28, 2010

      are you listing a Madrid team or a World of Warcraft group of characters

      • Kari
        November 28, 2010

        I like how creative the nicknames are, but I just have one question: who is Ronaldo Gonzalez?

        If you meant Raul, he’s at Schalke now 😀

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