Panathinaikos v Barca match comments post

Win and we’re in, folks! Your starting XI:

Valdés, Alves, Piqué, Puyol, Adriano, Mascherano, Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Villa and Messi

Have fun,  and sorry about being LiveBlogless. It’s the holidays, y’know….

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211 Comments

  1. Nav
    November 24, 2010

    I’m at work so can’t watch (again — damn time difference). I’ll be looking to you lot to comment every minute of action. 😀

  2. Stephen
    November 24, 2010

    preview said no live game, but it is on FoxDeportes (Fox Sports en Español) replayed on FSC later.

  3. blitzen
    November 24, 2010

    Can’t watch but will be following on the BBC site or somewhere, and all your riveting 🙂 comments in here.

    Oh, and Happy Ritual Turkey Slaughter Day to all my Americaan friends. Try not to eat so much you pass out!

      • blitzen
        November 24, 2010

        *http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/9225002.stm

        But right now it’s only Rangers-Man U and Tottenham-Bremen.

        • blitzen
          November 24, 2010

          Doesn’t look like they are going to do the Barca game, dammit! You can try the live updates at Goal.com, but something nasty got onto my computer the other day and I’m pretty sure it came from there, so I don’t go there anymore.

  4. K
    November 24, 2010

    Ok just looking in to see the post..This is one of the few games I can enjoy on TV

    Best of luck y’all

    Hoping for a good game. win, Crynaldo’s head exploding etc
    Am man can dream

  5. vicsoc8
    November 24, 2010

    Win and we are first in the group

  6. November 24, 2010

    I got Hectorized. So I’ll respond to Cesc Pistol’s question here:

    On papers, the selection look like a flat dual lines. In practice, this is as far as it can be from being flat. I consider this selection (3-3-2-2) more triangles-generator than current Barca tactics.

    Pique’s (initial) position here is to create a diagonal cover to Alves and Mascherano. Moving the ball forward from the back, that’s a triangle.

    The fact that you have Puyol to make a second cover means that Alves will not need to play behind the ball in Barca’s half. Moving forward means that Alves start the initial triangle with Pique+Mascherano, then he push forward to create a flanked triangle with Mascherano+Xavi (with Alves being in front of Mascherano-not on the same line). Then he continue to reach a triangle with Xavi and Messi.

    The same structure happens on the left.

    With Alves and Adriano/Maxwell moving forward together (now that they are covered defensively), and with Xavi-Iniesta in the Center behind dynamic Messi+Villa moving the ball from one side to another and forward thru the flanked triangles will go smoothly, and the way the flanks stretch the opponent lines (or else they get too lethal to contain) will create spaces in the center for the central triangles to work. And if you look at the players employed in the center, there are ultimate level of triangles there. Starting from defense to midfield to offense.

    If Pep try this once, he will make it one of his favorite options.

  7. Josep
    November 24, 2010

    Rubin got an extremely fortunate penalty earlier which means win and in.

    Any clue why Biscuits isn’t starting? He must be getting rusty..

  8. Vj
    November 24, 2010

    The Pana net is torn.. Was Messi practising?

  9. ML
    November 24, 2010

    Streams? Australian tv is only playing Inter – Twente

  10. vicsoc8
    November 24, 2010

    lots of streams up at barcastuff on twitter

  11. Victor
    November 24, 2010

    ooof. I’m glad Pique is getting to play to today to find his form…

  12. Eklavya
    November 24, 2010

    *http://atdhe.net/29109/watch-panathinaikos-vs-barcelona

  13. justin
    November 24, 2010

    we look kinda flat is the best way i could describe it.

  14. Victor
    November 24, 2010

    Oh, I dunno. Good passing, good defense so far. Masch even had a shot on goal…

  15. blitzen
    November 24, 2010

    Nav: try this:

    *http://soccernet.espn.go.com/commentary?id=307800&cc=5901

  16. Victor
    November 24, 2010

    that said, we almost just got caught out.

  17. Josep
    November 24, 2010

    Nearly every stream has been breaking down for me.What a save by VV!! How did Cisse get thru so easily?? Wow. He was open in the middle.

  18. justin
    November 24, 2010

    valdes just saved a one on one from cisse. huge play

  19. Eklavya
    November 24, 2010

    They almost scored a carbon copy goal.

  20. Nav
    November 24, 2010

    Is this looking like the game against Hercules?

  21. Jim
    November 24, 2010

    Not a great start, especially from Adriano and Villa. Still, a long way to go.

    Btw, gooooallll!

  22. Eklavya
    November 24, 2010

    Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooal pedroooooooooooo! 😀

    • Josep
      November 24, 2010

      It looked like a fake cross, to pass. It did work perfectly to get the defender in the position he wanted to lay off a pass. Brilliant.

      And the finish was very nice. Having a two footed player up there is great.

  23. jordi(TM)
    November 24, 2010

    Yes, so glad P got his finishing back 😀

  24. Josep
    November 24, 2010

    C’mon Pique. I thought you were actually hurt, thats not you.

  25. Jim
    November 24, 2010

    Is it just me or is Pique looking out of sorts? All of a sudden he seems slow and indecisive.

    • Victor
      November 24, 2010

      yes, he made a poor decision in front of the goal earlier…

      • Josep
        November 24, 2010

        Yeah, I’m worried to see how Biscuits will play when he finally does.

  26. blitzen
    November 24, 2010

    Valencia is up 3-0 over Bursapor!

      • Josep
        November 24, 2010

        Apparently not only American’s are killing Turkeys

  27. cliveee
    November 24, 2010

    are we playing in a kiddie field???? it looks sooo small!

  28. Jnice
    November 24, 2010

    Knew Messi would be on reserve mode. Hate when he does that. He is literally walking all over the pitch.

    And Villa needs to start thinking quicker.

    • Josep
      November 24, 2010

      I saw you tweet this before he stayed on his feet with that run in the box. his balance is incredible.

      nice shot by Villa.

      • Jnice
        November 24, 2010

        LoL after I say it, he finally wakes the hell up. I knew he would play like this, though. Reserve himself for El Clasico.

    • Eklavya
      November 24, 2010

      Messi’s making some crazy ass dribbles at the moment, though 😯

  29. Vj
    November 24, 2010

    Oooh.. felt Messi would go all the way there..

    Again! CAASSSSIIIIIIII…

  30. Nav
    November 24, 2010

    @barcastuff: barcelona closing panathinaikos in in their own area, messi woke up

  31. Jnice
    November 24, 2010

    Good chase from Masch to end the half.

  32. Josep
    November 24, 2010

    Oh my god. Messi what a run. He beat about 3-4 deenders on the endline and only Villa is there. But wow.

  33. jordi(TM)
    November 24, 2010

    could no one make a run there? :/

  34. Victor
    November 24, 2010

    Masch seems to be all over the place today, in a good way.

  35. Para
    November 24, 2010

    Commentator: “It’s all nice-y nice-y pass, and then all of a sudden *EXPLOSION* around the box.”

  36. blitzen
    November 24, 2010

    See, the problem with Panathinaikos is they only have a three-leafed clover on their crest. They are going to need a four-leafed one if they want to beat Barcelona.

  37. poipoi
    November 24, 2010

    started to watch late but … adriano is doing well ain’t he?? masche also

    • Jnice
      November 24, 2010

      Adriano is doing alright. Mascherano is playing well. Villa, Pique, and Dani to some extent look out of sorts. And Messi was on reserve mode until the end of the half.

  38. K
    November 24, 2010

    Will someone crash the fuckin’ box already..get in Keiteee

    • Jnice
      November 24, 2010

      I don’t get why when Pedro and Adriano were getting ready to cross, Villa didn’t even attempt to run into the box. Why?

  39. Euler
    November 24, 2010

    Enormous save from VV. Completely changed the match.

    Not sure how many other RB’s in the world could have slotted that ball into Pedro. Just remarkable. Strong finish from P! who is really finding his form.

    Messi is ridiculous. A few of those dribbling runs were sheer magic.

    Villa has to continue working on anticipating what Messi is going to do. There had to be another man filling in from the opposite side when Messi beat half the Pana team on that run from the right and crossed it to … no one as no one was making the run.

    Masch is just tremendous. So impressive. The way he closed out that break Cisse had just before the half ended was phenomenal. Great pace and positioning and wonderful effort.

    • K
      November 24, 2010

      Dude you just wrote my thoughts on the game..damn you’re good

      • Vj
        November 24, 2010

        There is a pretty good reason why he’s called Euler 🙂

    • Jim
      November 24, 2010

      Not sure I’d agree with that, Euler . It looked to me like Cisse had him beaten and either dived which was foolish or was clipped. Either way I reckon he was past Masch who lunged in. Might be wrong though and can’t rewind at the moment as I’m on the interactive red button 🙁

      • Jnice
        November 24, 2010

        He didn’t touch Cisse. He did a great job keeping up with him as best as he could.

  40. November 24, 2010

    one hell of a game. we are playing ridiculous football, still. we outplay them from goalkeeper to striker. what more can we ask?
    goals? they will surely come if we keep on playing like this.

    i love what i have been seeing from villa. the way he runs and takes shots. we need him to take more shots on goal, but i agree, he has to make up his mind earlier and make better decisions.

    if pedro and villa could learn a little bit of Messi’s chip, we will be up by 3 right now. but pedro is spectacular today. well taken goal. full of energy.

    messi. extra-terrestrial. period.

  41. Auld Super
    November 24, 2010

    They have a shamrock they were founded by an Irish priest, I pity the local kids back then with him around.

  42. Auld Super
    November 24, 2010

    The goal machine is having a poor game.

  43. Jim
    November 24, 2010

    Is Alves practising for the clasico ? Seems to be holding back a little tonight.

    • justin
      November 24, 2010

      maybe its because adriano is going foward a lot more than abidal so alves is staying back to cover?

  44. Auld Super
    November 24, 2010

    nice technique from Adriano there.

  45. Auld Super
    November 24, 2010

    What was that ? A tad off there from little Leo.

  46. Kari
    November 24, 2010

    o.o

    gooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!

  47. Euler
    November 24, 2010

    Watching this team play at times is liking studying geometry. Pythagoras Guardiola.

    Adriano is very skilled on the ball.

  48. Jim
    November 24, 2010

    Ok. Off with Iniesta. That’s two bad ones tonight.

  49. Kari
    November 24, 2010

    Missed the first half + 10 min. of the second, but that goal just made up for it.

    Gorgeous. Absolutely gorgeous.

  50. Victor
    November 24, 2010

    Wow, Pan seems to not see Adriano, he’s been so open

  51. Kari
    November 24, 2010

    0-3 and cruising, and Pep puts Abidal and Keita on. Mercy? If it were any other team.

  52. Euler
    November 24, 2010

    Iniesta arguably has the best touch in the world. Masterful.

    Wonderful ball in from Dani – who was essentially positioned as a central mid on that goal.

    Great finish from P! again. He’s adjusting to defenses focusing on him more.

    The ability to work in closed spaces by this team is phenomenal.

    • just sayin'
      November 24, 2010

      Yes! Iniesta – his first touches are made with such ease. It gives him the capability of moving or passing quickly. A pleasure to watch.

  53. K
    November 24, 2010

    Disappointed with villa..he looks jaded

  54. Kari
    November 24, 2010

    And Eklavya, the atdhe stream is beautiful. Gracies.

    • Eklavya
      November 24, 2010

      And I had to stop watching after the first half…
      All your comments make me want to watch the match 🙁
      (and no, we were playing well when I was watching it 😀 )

    • blitzen
      November 24, 2010

      Make that 6-1!

      Good lord, Valencia!

  55. K
    November 24, 2010

    The barça offside trap is magisterial

  56. lovelymofo
    November 24, 2010

    Don Andres is really bringing it!

  57. Vj
    November 24, 2010

    Messi!!!

    And dare I say, Masche > Yaya..

    • November 24, 2010

      when u close your eyes tonight and see Yaya’s face, you know why…

      • Vj
        November 25, 2010

        Meh, Yaya lost all of his powers when he left us.. He’s not scary anymore..

  58. November 24, 2010

    Mascherano is totally giving 1) Busquets a huge challenge, 2) Pep a big headache.

  59. lovelymofo
    November 24, 2010

    Did that guy just flip off Messi?

  60. lovelymofo
    November 24, 2010

    Whats happening now? Sound off b/c of work.

  61. MoSSi
    November 24, 2010

    Haha Tim Stannard is hilarious!

    “Cool. A man in a leather jacket just ran onto the pitch and stuck his middle finger up at Messi. Taken away by stewards. And no, it wasn’t Cristiano Ronaldo with a false beard.”

    • lovelymofo
      November 24, 2010

      Heh. Cristiano will be jellus.

  62. ooga aga
    November 24, 2010

    the crowd threw fireworks or something and it delayed the game. after the dude flipped off messi.

  63. Eklavya
    November 24, 2010

    er im not watching…commenting through mobile. what happen?

    • Kari
      November 24, 2010

      -We scored 3 goals.

      – Pitch invader with slicked black hair and a leather jacket gives Messi the middle finger before being taken off

      – Flares are lit and game is temporarily delayed

      – We’re still kicking their asses.

  64. K
    November 24, 2010

    I don’t think villa’s had 1 touch in this half

    • Jnice
      November 24, 2010

      Haha I said that on twitter. Bet some of the guys are pissed he got Messi’s.

  65. Jnice
    November 24, 2010

    Tres puntos, some great goals, hopefully no injuries, qualified first place.

    Good day.

  66. Cesc Pistol
    November 24, 2010

    @Ramzi: Oh I see your point: Alves and Adriano/Maxwell completely dominating the flanks while everyone else handling the central area and covering for them. Messi and Villa would work as inside winger /forwards running at CBs or gap bet CB/FB. I imagine you mean Messi/Villa would work like the forward pair in Villareal. Iniesta and Xavi doing what they usually do.

    But how does the back three work? Does Pique and Abidal move forward as well? In an offense do they combine with sMasch etc?

    PS Mandatory: Yay! We won! P!

    • November 24, 2010

      We’ve seen an evidence today about the importance of dedicating Adriano+Alves to offense. -Side note.

      As for the defense troika, that’s my favorite trick in the selection. Currently (the tactics Barca applies), The buildup could be categorized in two layers: 1) moving the ball forward from Barca’s half. 2) Offense buildup in the opponent half.

      For stage one, the key players are pique and Busquets. Alves is the supportive player. What usually happens is that the opponents check Busquets and their striker dance between Puyol and Pique who feels too risky to demand the ball in the space created by Busquets movement because that leave Puyol exposed at the back. Secondly, he cant make explosive runs forward that often because he is the second of two Center backs, especially while the fullbacks are contributing to offense.

      Based on the mentioned alternative, I -in principle- dedicate Puyol and Abidal to defense. Whenever the opponent employ only one forward, the two can check and cover while Pique moving forward 1) To receive the ball from the back and act as a virtual holding midfielder and move the ball to stage 2 (Xavi and co), or even move to do a Pequenbuer contribution all the way to the opponent’s area (not frequently though).

      In the other hand, Pique’s move to play beside the holding midfielder (with the forward behind him being checked by Abidal and Puyol) give Alves and/or Adrano the chance to contribute with Xavi,Iniesta,Messi,and Villa in high pressure to retain possession as close as possible to the opponent’s area.

      Now of course their are numerous variables and match schemes that point out “what to do if”. But that will turn the comment to a thesis.

      • Cesc Pistol
        November 24, 2010

        Sounds Awesome. You ought to do an in-depth analysis on it. Though it seems very susceptible to quick flank play and crosses (even more than our current system) from what I think. No?

  67. ooga aga
    November 24, 2010

    and the game against rubin is meaningless, for us. rubin could still qualify at copenhagens expense. still would be nice to finally beat them.

  68. Soy Culé
    November 24, 2010

    Nice win today. I don’t think anyone really expected us not to win anyway.

    But since we’ve gotten Panathinaikos out of the way: I CANNOT WAIT FOR MONDAY. To hell with being nice or realistic. I want another 8-0. We’ve had to put up with the llorones for months now. I’m really sick of it. The time is finally come for ole’ EE to let their daddies take over the league. They had their 15 minutes, now they can go back to being 2nd where they belong.

    Sorry for changing the subject, but I’ve been holding in a lot of venom for a while now, and since el derbi is our next game, I might as well let it all out right now.

  69. just sayin'
    November 24, 2010

    Great game by Adriano. Since when does he take so many hard shots from outside of the box?? Nice to see. Still hoping to see better from Villa all-around. Not because he didn’t score, but because he does poorly on the ball, IMO. He was non-existent in the second half. Offered very little to team contribution unless you cite that he carries around 2 defenders on him that would be on someone else if they weren’t marking him. I don’t know, something is just not right. Formation, positioning?? I’m not sure but I think that Pep has a challenge on his hands. Bojan scores two goals last game and sits out. Villa scores none in both. I think it’s going to get thorny.

    • barca96
      November 24, 2010

      Villa had 1 direct assist and 2 indirect assists that led to a goal in the last match. Don’t just look at the stats or goals mate.

      • just sayin'
        November 24, 2010

        I don’t look at the stats or goals. I watch the game. IMO, by and large, he is not playing well with our system.

        • barca96
          November 24, 2010

          You must be joking right?
          Look how well he has been connecting with Messi for over a month now. Don’t just look at highlights of the goals. Or what you could do is, watch the matches twice to get a better view.

          • just sayin'
            November 24, 2010

            I watch all games in their entirety. Sometimes, Villa connects with Messi, but not enough IMO. He is not adapting with our system of play. I was excited when I heard of his signing with our team, but this performance was not what I had expected. Last week, against an inferior team, Kxevin rated him a 6 (lowest score) and today his performance was a little worse. I’m curious to see his thoughts. In any case, I can remember a nice back pass and a shot on goal. He continues to have trouble handling the ball, he has trouble with first touches, he’s slow in releasing the ball, little creativity in the box, which I think is why he’s not getting many passes in those tight spaces – he’s not making himself available for passes. I think it all starts to snowball. I don’t care how many times forwards say that they don’t care if they score as long as the team wins – a skilled forward with a long history of scoring goals, like Villa, is privately disappointed with performance.

    • Jnice
      November 24, 2010

      For me, Villa doesn’t think quickly enough when the ball is at his feet. It’s frustrating.

      • just sayin'
        November 24, 2010

        I think he doesn’t have the next play in mind when he receives the ball and that’s very important if you play a system like Barca does. So, some of his thinking should be happening before he receives the ball.

        • ooga aga
          November 24, 2010

          can you give him at least half the season? for me having villa in there contributes to a much more kind-on-the-eyes barca than what i saw last year.

          • just sayin'
            November 24, 2010

            I’ll give him a season and more. It can’t be easy to play with Barca. If I appear tough on him, it’s just because I want to see him succeed as he has in the past. I’m hoping it’s just time that he needs. Someone like Marcherano, who I along with many on this board were not as excited about as Villa, turned out fit in more seamlessly. Maybe it’s more a positional thing and fitting in as a forward is more difficult. That I don’t know.

  70. Kari
    November 24, 2010

    Yeah! Marc Crosas (remember him?) tweet via barcastuff:

    Tweet Marc Crosas (Celtic ex-Barça): “If you love football..look at barça’s 2nd goal then switch of the TV and go to bed!”

    True dat.

  71. barca96
    November 24, 2010

    Didn’t watch the match as ESPN USA decided to show Inter instead.
    Funny comment on barcastuff;
    “barcelona closing panathinaikos in in their own area, messi woke up ”

    Messi WOKE UP? :lol:”
    Was he having those quiet matches in the beginning?

    • Jnice
      November 24, 2010

      He was on reserve the whole match, really. It annoyed me a lot in the first half because he wasn’t even running. You could tell he was saving himself for Monday.

      Still, he did some good things and got a goal.

      • barca96
        November 24, 2010

        Haha. But I saw comments like
        “I creamed my pants” in regard to Messi when I look back at the comments made during the match.
        It gave me a totally different idea on how he was playing.

        Adriano sounded like he had a good game. I always thought that he was better offensively than Maxwell.

        • Jnice
          November 24, 2010

          Well, Messi had a couple of nice dribbles and stuff, but he never really got out of first gear.

          Adriano got better as the match wore on. He is more aggressive than Maxwell and he had a couple of great shots.

  72. Jnice
    November 24, 2010

    Mascherano: “Sergio [Busquets] is the starter and my task is to make sure to replace him well if he doesn’t play. (via barcastuff)

    Love Mascherano’s attitude.

    • November 24, 2010

      really hard not to say monsterano is impressive, both on and off the pitch!

    • Kari
      November 24, 2010

      He really knows how to say the right things. Slowly smashing his way into my heart (possible oxymoron)…

      • blitzen
        November 24, 2010

        ITA. Trying hard to remember why it was I didn’t like him before? Dunno, but I sure am loving him now!

  73. Diego S.
    November 24, 2010

    Renew Alves’ contract, RIGHT NOW!!

  74. Diego S.
    November 24, 2010

    Is there some kind of natural disaster in France or was Cisse just collecting the shirts ? 😀

    • Jnice
      November 24, 2010

      Cisse was shocked that Messi still had his shirt on, so he jumped at the opportunity lol.

    • barca96
      November 24, 2010

      I also thought that there was a natural disaster or something but I really haven’t heard anything coming out of France from this morning’s news.
      Perhaps Cisse originated from New Zealand.

    • November 24, 2010

      i wonder how he asked without his own green shirt on. wasn’t he even embarrassed to say it with nothing in exchange?
      “may i have your shirt?” will make him look like a little fan.

      • barca96
        November 24, 2010

        Cisse gave hair grooming tips for Puyol & Messi

      • just sayin'
        November 24, 2010

        Messi looked like he could care less that he didn’t get a shirt in return. 🙂

  75. Jnice
    November 24, 2010

    Josep wanted me to tell you all that “Bale missed a PK and Coentrao got eaten up today.”

    • Kari
      November 24, 2010

      Coentrao?

      /http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1q1XY5G4Ww

      • Diego S.
        November 24, 2010

        Was that THE match, Kari ? U20 WC in Canada that made you dislike him till now.

        • Kari
          November 24, 2010

          I don’t dislike him per se, but he was a diving ….. during the tournament. As a matter of fact, Di Maria was as well, although Jughead was one of the best players of that Argentina squad that no-one knew about(I got to see Aguero I mean, that Argentine team 3 times!! And Vela and Gio Dos Santos once!).

          Coentrao was the second best player of that Portuguese squad–that’s not saying much though. Bruno Gama was the best player if you wanted to know. I just remember that moment every time someone mentions Coentrao

          • Diego S.
            November 24, 2010

            U20 WC was in Egypt last year. Many Good players with tricks, flicks, and dribbles. Couple of years later, You never see them again.

          • Diego S.
            November 24, 2010

            Yes, They were. They were losing the penalties but Brazil missed 2 in a row.

    • Diego S.
      November 24, 2010

      I also would like to tell you all that “Suarez got banned 7 matches for biting, VDW sucked, Dani Alves is Awesome”

    • Josep
      November 24, 2010

      Just wrote a really long post and it never showed up grr.
      So thanks for posting that JNASTY.

      Visca Barca! I’m going to watch the second half tomorrow morning. Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate.

  76. Louis
    November 24, 2010

    I’m watching the replay of the match on FSC right now (didn’t watch it live earlier) and I have to say it is absolutely disgusting what Panaa;ksdjf;lskjd is doing. They had to know (at the very least their coach) that 1) They had an actual chance to advance to the tournament stage with two wins & 2) Even a draw in this game won’t help them since they aren’t gonna make up the Goal Differential tie breaker with Rubin for the 3rd spot and a spot in the Europa League (assuming Rubin loses to Barca in the 6th fixture)

    And what do they do? Park the bus. In front of their home fans. Essentially giving up their chance to play in European competitions this year.

    It’s sad, really.

  77. ooga aga
    November 24, 2010

    here are the groups. i imagine the draw will take place December 10 or 17.

    A: tottenham and inter advance, places TBD

    B: schalke and lyon advance, places TBD

    C: man u and valencia advance, places TBD

    D: barcelona 1, copenhagen or rubin 2

    E: bayern 1, roma or basel 2

    F: chelsea 1, marseille 2

    G: madrid 1, ac milan 2

    H: shaktar, arsenal, braga: two of three advance

    • blitzen
      November 24, 2010

      Okay, okay! So who would we prefer to play next?

      • Kari
        November 24, 2010

        Milan. Inter. Arsenal 😀

        Seriously though, there are still some places that are undecided, so I’ll wait until the draw to decide.

      • jordi(TM)
        November 24, 2010

        I want to draw the gunners or inter.So badly.

      • blitzen
        November 24, 2010

        I wouldn’t mind Chelsea. They are off their game at the moment anyway, and it would be so sweeeeet. 😀

        • MoSSi
          November 25, 2010

          We can’t draw Chelsea because they are gonna finish top of the group..

  78. ooga aga
    November 24, 2010

    apparently adriano was subbed because his calfs were cramping. not used to playing the full 90 i guess.

  79. Kari
    November 24, 2010

    Wow. Looking back at the U-20 WC in Canada, there are some many people that played there that were unknown then and are stars/well known now, and other players that were the sh*t and are anonymous. A short list of both types:

    Some players that were the sh*t during the tournament:

    – Maximiliano Moralez (Argentina)
    – <strikePablo Piatti (okay, lie. I just had a soft spot for him.
    -Alberto Bueno (Spain)
    -Adrian Lopez (Spain)
    – Diego Capel (Spain)<– He was subsequently hyped later as well
    – Matias Vidandossy (Chile)
    – Erwin Hoffer (Austria)
    – Martin Fenin (Czech Republic)
    – Edison Cavani (Uruguay) <– Still kinda hyped even now

    Players that weren't well known but became well known, bolded ones are the ones that caused a "WTF they played?!" reaction:

    – Gerard Pique (Spain) <– In my defense, it was in the summer of '07
    – Juan Mata (Spain)
    – Jozy Altidore, Micheal Bradley (USA)
    – Alexis Sanchez (Chile) <– Although he was praised heavily during the tournament early. At least by me.
    – Arturo Vidal (Chile)
    – Angel Di Maria, Mauro Zarate (Argentina)
    – Fabio Coentrao (Portugal)
    Javier Hernandez, Hector Moreno (Mexico)
    Luis Suarez (Uruguay) <– If I could bold it twice, I would
    – Sebastian Prodl (Austria)

    There could even more players that appeared but squad lists aren't shown. The only players that came in as stars and left as stars are : Kun Aguero, Pato, Freddy Adu(?), GDS and Carlos Vela.

    Wow.

    • Kari
      November 24, 2010

      Coding mishap: that was supposed to be Pablo Piatti

  80. Kari
    November 24, 2010

    Video: Thong Boy’s cousin (not really) giving Messi the finger.

    /http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6yv-NSEU9M

    • Soy Culé
      November 24, 2010

      I was kinda shocked when that douche did that. I don’t get why some people don’t like Messi. He’s basically the complete opposite of what Ronaldo is. But, oh well, he didn’t care, and besides, I would have cheered had someone did that to Ronaldo anyway, so I won’t complain.

      The best way to say “fck you” back is to score, which is exactly what Messi did.

    • blitzen
      November 24, 2010

      But it didn’t show Messi’s reaction! Boo.

        • blitzen
          November 24, 2010

          I don’t know, that’s why I was disappointed!

  81. Spiro
    November 24, 2010

    This has probably been repeated on this wall a thousand times but I gotta say the second goal (messi’s) was absolutely amazing.

    Even Mourinho wouldn’t be able to make his real madrid team pull something like that off.

  82. blitzen
    November 24, 2010

    Speaking of Mourinho, very nice interview with FIFA:

    *http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1338827.html

    *http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1339420.html

  83. blitzen
    November 24, 2010

    Speaking in The Sun, Zelkjo Petrovic moaned:

    “Everybody has great words for the Premier League but it is a myth. The Premier League is a crap league, it is nothing. In truth the level is shocking.

    “Every team has just three good players. If you take those players out of the teams then there are only players left who would not be playing in the bottom team in Holland.

    “The Bundesliga is far better.”

    • barca96
      November 24, 2010

      Nice…
      I can’t remember who, but it was either Ray Hudson or a former Liverpool player who said the same thing.
      It’s somewhere on youtube

      • blitzen
        November 24, 2010

        He also forgot to mention that almost all of those “three good players” per team are NOT from the UK.

        • barca96
          November 24, 2010

          Haha true.
          Let’s look at their top clubs..

          Man U- Vidic. UK= Rooney
          Chelsea- Drogba, Essien, Cech. UK= Terry, Cole, Lamps
          Liverpool- Torres. UK= Gerrard
          Arsenal- Cesc, Nasri. UK= NONE!!

  84. soccermomof4
    November 24, 2010

    Many on other sites constantly harp about how La Liga isn’t any good because it only has two good teams (the 2 horse race argument). Valencia is going through, too—I’d say we have a very fine league.
    Hurray Barca! 150 goals for Messi!

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