Barca 1, Shakhtar 0, “Champions of European Champions” edition (edit)


This one took some time, folks, not only for our beloved Barca, but for me.

For them, the reasons were obvious: We came up against a side with next to no interest in playing football today. Their sole aim was to stymie our attacks, clog the midfield, have at least 5 men in the box and jam up the passing lanes. And, if a counterattack opportunity presented itself, they would be happy to take it.

Welcome to what we’re going to be seeing for most of 2010, so get used to more 1-0 or 2-1 wins, rather than 5-0 blowouts.

The picture that you see here is the epitome of truth and justice. The captain of the best team on the night is hoisting the trophy. It’s also a picture of my Man of the Match, Carles Puyol.

I can hear it now: “New site and already, Kxevin’s out of his mind.”

Whatever. Man of the Match is man of the match. The whole match. Other players (except for Abidal) came and went, going through periods of ineffectiveness, playing with the knowledge of a Monday Liga match, or a World Cup qualifier.

But from moment one of this match, Captain Caveman played as he always does, as if this were the last minute of the last match of the last season of the last year of humanity on the planet. His effort was constant, he was almost always in the right place at the right time, and the one error that he made, a wayward pass that became a Shakhtar break, he broke up inside the box.

On set pieces he lived up to his name of “Air” Puyol, leaping like a crazy man even late, late into regulation time, doing the Captain’s armband proud. For me, MOTM was a no-brainer. Even late, late into the extra time that was necessary to seal this deal, Puyol was playing as if daisy-fresh.

Guardiola rolled out with some semblance of our best lineup: Valdes, Alves, Pique, Puyol, Abidal, The Yaya, Keita, Xavi, Messi, Henry, Ibrahmovic. But what we saw is that in this game that we all love so, a determined defense can hold the best offense. Would Shakhtar have been able to hold us back two months from now, when everyone is clicking and at full fitness? No. But you also saw why the UEFA Cup winners had a slight edge in the overall competition, before we evened things up: While the Champions League winner is resting, the UEFA Cup winner is playing football. Shakhtar were fit, fitter than us, and it showed in their energy and industry.

Thankfully, they used that effort for evil, rather than good (in the playing football sense). We had the lion’s share of possession, epitomized in a statistic: At the 70th minute, we had completed 421 passes, to their 178. But if you don’t have the ball, you can’t beat us. Before anyone snarks about “anti-football,” they looked dangerous on the counter a number of times, and a coach will play the match that he has to play, so that his side has the best shot at winning.

And I’m not sure what they were playing for (penalties?), on a field that looked more like a neglected secondary pitch of a local high school, than a pitch upon which a world-class match should be contested, but I was never lacking for confidence that we would win. And so we did.

Recall that in the LiveBlog I observed that a moment of individual brilliance would be needed to win this one, because our team football was sorely lacking. Enter Pedro!

He charged at the defense, doing what he does oh, so well as Messi’s Mini-Me. His charge drew the attention of the defenders, as they moved to shut him down. This opened space for him to slide the ball to Messi, who was immediately surrounded by 5 defenders, including “Damn, that was weird” Chygnasty.

Messi controlled for an instant, and in that miniscule time span a number of things happened:

–Pedro! made the kind of diagonal run that just begs for a pass.
–The 5 defenders settled in on Messi, sure that he would do what he had been doing, which was dribble and shoot.
–The keeper made this same error, shading toward Messi.
–The 6th defender has to stay put to keep Alves honest, allowing space for P! to run into.

So when Messi controlled the ball, paused for that split second then slotted a beautiful, perfectly weighted pass for P!, the keeper was leaning the wrong way. Why? Because Messi continued his run into the box, which meant that the keeper had to guess that P! would slot it back to Messi, who would put the knife in.

Instead, Pedro! saw the lean and slid a beautiful shot past the keeper (who was helpless, really). And that was that, because except for a preternaturally stupid Busquets giveaway with less than a minute left that resulted in a long shot on Valdes, Shakhtar were not going to get that goal back. They began the day knowing that their best chance was in the penalty shot phase, and they played like it.

And still, we won.

So why the hell did this take so long?

Well, in part you can blame my making a 30+pound mountain bike travel 30 miles in about an hour and 15 minutes. Ouch! My check was cashed when I got home. Yours would be, too, so shut it.

But mostly it was because opinions on our various players were so galvanized in the aftermath of this match that I (however briefly) doubted myself and my own evaluations that were formed in the eye of a blurry, intermittent Web feed, and borne out by a viewing of the match.

So I watched it again, and still nothing changed. So off we go.

Don’t forget that this is still pre-season for our lads, and that our main striker is coming off surgery for a hand injury that has made him late, late, for a very important date. He will integrate into this club in a way that will make jaws drop. He’s already much, much farther along than Henry was at the same point in his first season with us. Henry isn’t fit, either, by the by. Excuses? No. Just reality. People are expecting us to drop the ball and play exactly as we did at the end of last season, in the CL final. Need I remind everyone that last year’s club began the season with a loss and a draw, and had to be more on-form because it had to play its way into Champions League group stages?

Just checking.

But most importantly, the club was collectively off in this match, in part because of the efforts of Shakhtar but in part because they haven’t really played competitive football. Bilbao rolled out a second-class side that didn’t really test us. We played Gamper at about half-speed. The pre-season friendlies probably weren’t even as hard as our practices. So. Not bad for our first real match of the season, because even though the side wasn’t at maximum effectiveness, we still played our game, which is you can’t beat us if you don’t have the ball. Guardiola didn’t look that nervous because he knew this, that Shakhtar were playing as hard as they were going to, and they still couldn’t even get the ball from us, unless we gave it to them.

We got the diet of the Barca Rules: packed midfield, packed box, tight marking on Xavi. It explains the emergence of The Yaya as an offensive force, and will make Piquenbauer blossom even more this season. And it won’t happen very much this season, but imagine a defense of Chynasty and Pique, flanked by Alves and Maxwell. That back line is as potent as most midfields!

As with the Chicago Bulls and the Jordan Rules (allow Michael Jordan to score his 30+, but don’t let the other guys beat you), we will adapt to the Barca Rules. Movement on and off the ball will be even more crucial, and dynamic wing play will be more important than ever, which makes me happy about a bit of news lurking at the bottom of this match evaluation.

And with that, the ratings:

Team: 5. They will improve, but the midfield pressure wasn’t there, nor was the one-touch game that opens up a determined side such as Shakhtar. Some was because of the crap pitch, some was just because it’s early days.

Guardiola: 8. The right starting XI, and the right substitutions, though I would have subbed Monument instead of Busquets. Youth and energy turned this match. But his short squad might bite him in the butt.

Valdes: 6. Dude. Next time you want to watch a match, buy a ticket. He had nothing to do. So maybe it was being shocked that a ball came his way that resulted in that absurd bobble, right on the doorstep, of the long shot that was precipitated by Busquets’ stupidity. Still, I was a little puckered on that one.

Alves: 5. Solid on defense, but man, what the hell is up with his crosses? One still hasn’t dropped from the Monaco sky.

Pique: 8. Full-on Piquenbauer mode today, as he quickly figured out that Shakhtar weren’t going to attack, and the congested midfield meant that he had space to become the attack starter. And what a glorious bit of keepe-uppe in the first half, including a Seal Dribble, to thwart a Shakhtar defender and start the attack. Shame about the haircut, though.

Puyol: 9. One wayward pass kept him from perfection. The rest of my effusion is above. What a majestic match, to show the new kid, Chygnasty, how hard he is going to have to play to displace him. Inspired? Perhaps.

Abidal: 10. A perfect match, right down to his time-killing inteplays with Messi, late in the extra time. Tackles and interceptions, and very intelligent moving forward on offense, including a couple of crosses that deserved a better fate than rolling impotently, across the box. People who say that he needs to play more offense just didn’t realize the kind of match this was. Alves was way up the pitch. If Abidal gets caught up as well, we’re screwed. His forays happened when Alves was back. I can’t say enough about the way he played yesterday.

The Yaya: 9 Man-sized. He was all effort, control and industry. He showed too much of the ball at times. Whether due to overconfidence or the pitch, only he knows. Massive individual effort in the pursuit of the victory. He was subbed when it was clear, on the Shakhtar counter that developed right in his face, that he was hammered.

Keita: 8. What a strong match, from sensing when to attack and when to defend, to intelligent passes (including one for Henry that was thisclose). This is the Keita that we signed, and it’s good to see him. I thought he could have shot long more (well, at all).

Xavi: 6. He’s been better, but he’ll never be worse, which is good. But his giveaways were uncharacteristic, and while his possession game was mostly right, his offensive game just wasn’t there. He usually sees the field better. Some of the blame goes to the attackers, who weren’t making themselves available in the right spots.

Henry: 7. People were ripping on Henry after this match and for the life of me, I don’t understand why. From tracking back on defense, to making passes, to shifting to the center when Ibrahimovic came out, his effort and scoring mindset were constant. Very good long-range effort that forced a save from the Shakhtar keeper, as well. It’s okay to dislike Henry, but you can’t fault him for the match that he played yesterday. He had his usual “soft” giveaways, but that he didn’t have more shot attempts is the fault of his service.

Ibrahimovic: 7. Again, people were all over BANGS, calling him lazy, saying now we see why Inter sold him, blah, blah, blah. But did you see him running up the pitch to break up attacks and harass defenders into bad passes out of the back. Did you see him running onto balls, chasing down long passes intended for him and trying anything to get balls into a danger position, including a crazy lob pass for Henry that I still don’t know how he got over the defense. Henry’s bicycle attempt was unfortunate, but the kind of effort he turned in, without full match fitness and still with a healing hand, can’t be faulted. Expectations are immense. But he isn’t shit if he doesn’t score 4 goals and notch 2 assists. Give him time.

Messi: 9. He didn’t play a whole match, but he was a constant danger. He intelligently held back when BANGS and Henry were roaming the box, sensing that they needed space to do their thing. But when Ibra came off and Henry moved to the center, Messi sprang into action. He picked the club up and put its offense on his back. All it needed was the effort of Pedro! to seal the deal. He was also very smart, in that he knew this would be a long one, and he should save his effort. He did, which also accounts for his being quiet early, and was able to play fresh in the late stages.


Pedro! (for Ibrahimovic): 8. What an impact player. His pace and movement, coupled with energy and ball skills made scoring only a matter of time. He and Messi are quite the danger tandem. And don’t underestimate his awareness in reading the keeper and taking the shot instead of trying for the dish. And I think that he earned the penalty, he just shouldn’t have tried to sell it so hard. But he clearly got Malachi Crunched by the Shakhtar defenders.

Krkic (for Henry): 6. Instant danger, then tailed off. His confidence appears to be growing. That run that he made, even though the shot didn’t have a chance, was exceptional.

Busquets (for The Yaya): 3. Played way too soft for what his role should have been. It’s why I would have preferred Monument in that situation, because he doesn’t screw around with the ball, then flop as Busquets does. He should have kept the ball moving on that late-match giveaway. If any Shakhtar attackers are in place, that’s a jailbreak going the wrong way. Man the hell up. The ref hadn’t been calling those fouls all match. He wasn’t going to start then.

And finally, look at the odd emotions on Chygnasty’s face in this picture. I mean, his club lost, but the club that he’s going to has just won its 5th trophy in 12 months. It’s very funny.


A few more thoughts:

–Speaking of Chygnasty, he looked like a 25m defender to me, all match long. Hell, I almost wish he wasn’t as good as he broke up attack after attack, calmly controlling the ball and knocking off a long pass to start a Shakhtar non-attack. His positioning is already top-notch, and he is physical without being reckless. His performance, and the sudden realization that he’s our player now, was one of the delights of this match.

–We have, right now, the best club in the world. The match fitness will come, the one-touch game will return and the movement off the ball that creates passing lanes will rear its head. Naysayers should just calm down. Some Barca sites are already branding Ibrahimovic a failure in the comments spaces. Wow.

–More encouraging news came in the way we defended aganst Shakhtar’s set pieces. There seems to be less zone marking and more “Oh, there’s the ball” marking. Big difference.

In other news:

Contratulations to Jeffren, who will be staying up with the first team says EMD. Final Fantasy will get the chance to turn some real matches, and I’m sure that he will. He will be on pins and needles in the January transfer window. I don’t think it’s a full-on promotion, but he has until January to show why he should stay. Let’s wish him well.

By Kxevin

In my fantasy life, I’m a Barca-crazed contributor over at Barcelona Football Blog. In my real life, I’m a full-time journalist at the Chicago Tribune, based in Chicago, Illinois.


  1. Although Barca was not yet match fit, but I think we wore Shaktar out pretty much after 110 mins. It took lots of energy to defend Zlatan, Messi and Henry. And it was a tactical brillance that Pep put Pedro after 80 min. His and Messi’s running was the essential kill to break the bus that was probably ran out of gas in extra time. The gap between defence and midfield were much bigger to explore.

  2. Oh, as an alert. Catching matches will be much more difficult this season. Our season debut is on ESPNHD, for example. There will almost certainly be ESPN Deportes as well (which has two strong matches on offer Sunday), ESPN Classic and GolTV.

    So check those listings carefully, and we will do our part with the previews to ensure that everything is correct for your viewing pleasure.

  3. As a regular critic on Abidal, I must admit it surprised me how good he played last night. He looked like confident when having the ball, running with it, keeping it away from Shakhtar players.
    Really, if he can keep with that good job, I will stop doubting he is good enough for Barca.
    I recognise though that people like Kevin and Guardiola know much more about football than me. So, if they like him that can only mean one thing: that I am wrong 🙂

  4. Another great, sensible review Kxevin. Well done and spot on for giving man of the of match to the captain. Abidal was indeed immense yesterday and I think between him and Maxwell we are going to have a very very strong left hand side.

    I think you cannot underestimate the effect that the state of the pitch had. I am not sure how Uefa can put a game like this on a pitch like that, its almost like they didnt want to see a good game. If the pitch was even half decent we would have won this one a lot easier.

  5. Good review, though its funny how Puyol got a lower score than Abidal but was the man of the match. I had him as my man of the match as well though. Him and Messi.

    With respect to Alves’ crosses, Camp Nou is a lot wider than most pitches, no? I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Alves has good crossing games at home but horrible ones away. It’s like his range isn’t dialed in right.

  6. As I said on the liveblog, I really disagree with Monaco being every single year the site of the Supercup.
    They could move on to Nice or Marseille, where they have better stadiums. More crowd can go in. There would be more ambiance.
    Or they could do it a two-leg competition.
    The draw for the UCL could be done a day after the second tie.
    This would make this cup a more serious tournament.

  7. I got kinda hectored 🙁

    copy paste:

    Ibra sucked but it looks like he only needs time. The guy has great body and skill, so I guess it’s a matter of adaptation also. Anyone doubted that ibra runs less than eto’o? nobody runs more than him, but I hope Ibra’s strong points make us forget about the weak ones compared to eto’o.

    btw FCB shouldn’t be a “crossing” team, we pass the ball almost until the goal line… but any goal counts anyway, barbarian vasque style ones also 😉

    and the eternal question in FCB… why did titi play? he played horrible… pedro! right now is a much better player than henry. He dribbles well with both legs, runs, thinks, passes, crosses, touches and shoots waaaay better than the french.

    The game was pure boredom probably because of multiple reasons… but the lack of a good midfielder to substitute either xavi or iniesta was to me was the most obvious one. Keita or Powerserg should play in the back and let yaya try in offensive positions if we don’t sign someone good. The kids (thiago and JDS) are not a bad option but keita doesn’t have the skill to be an offensive player, he doens’t try anything new or good at all. keita and titi playing together in the left side doing absolutely nothing make me so sick! 🙁 🙁 🙁

    pep give pedro! more minutes please 😛

  8. Poipoi, I have to disagree with you on some of those points.

    First of all, like I’ve said before, the only thing wrong with Keita is his shot. I don’t know where you got the idea that he was doing nothing.

    Same thing for Henry, yes Pedro!! is a great talent but to say he thinks and shoots??!! better than Titi is going WAAAAAAAAAAY overboard. Shoot better than Titi? Seriously?

    I’m not sure exactly what you mean when you say FCB shouldn’t be a crossing team. We can’t try and pass every ball into the net. Actually, its our overreliance on that that allows teams like Chelsea to be so effective against us. If we keep trying to pass the ball into the next, expect a LOT of games like this one. I’m not saying we need to cross EVERY ball but come on. We have a BAS, let’s use him.

  9. The english media sure knows how to spin things…


  10. the two-leg competition idea makes me shiver, alexis… we always lost when supercup was played that way (don’t remember the matches against nottingham and aston villa, but definitely suffered the losses against milan and… was it manu?).
    and kevin, i completely agree with you. puyol was the man of the match. he played strong, he played fast, he played clever (the way he puts his hand on one of the brazilians when he was about to go one-on-one in front of valdés)… blocked a tough shot and became the heroic last defender in shakhtar’s only two chances. great game.
    then, valdés scared the heck out of us with that long shot, but he saved a very wicked one in minute… 88 or so? that deserves credit. make it pinto and it would have been 0-1 with three minutes to go.
    as for ibra, just give him time. he’s going to be huge. as huge as the poster with his image they have put at the deutsche bank barcelona headquarters, in diagonal street. it’s amazing to come up paseo de gracia and run into his furious celebrating a goal with the barcelona t-shirt (was that photoshopped or did he celebrate some goal against bilbao as if it had been his own?).

  11. messi_fan: yesterday titi played for I don’t know how long and did nothing. on the other hand pedro! did a lot with the few minutes pep gave him, he almost always does. pedro can play in both sides, plays almost as well with both legs, shoots hard when needed and soft as anybody. the play when he scored is proof of how he runs and thinks the plays. He is a FCB player, has spent some years in the junior teams and understands how we play. titi is not even an extremo 🙂

    I like keita’s personality and hard work but he definitely has not the skill to play in offensive positions for FCB. Compare him to Iniesta, Xavi or Yaya. Powerserg can afford to not have that much skill he is Powerserg from Badia!!! And btw… powerserg or keita profiles should be for the 4 or defensive position, not the attacking one. I think I saw keita dribble a guy once… in his yard and his son. Plus his game vision is not that good. What are his virtues? Strength? Hard work?

    I have to go sorry, I’d like to continue but I can’t…. long life to his yayaness!!!! Come back andres

  12. Another season, another 10 for Abidal, eh Kevn 🙂

    Don’t agree with the rating but he did have a better game yesterday I’ll admit. I hope Guardiola sat him down and gave him a talking to about positional sense over the close season. He’ll need it to keep his place, I think.

    We have the potential to repeat last year’s feats if we can handle the pressure and that, rather than ability, will decide what we end up with. I don’t see any of the English teams as being stronger than they were last year and I don’t see any of Madrid’s signings as being an improvement in getting the ball away from us.

  13. And a quick word on ratings: A player can have a higher score, but still not have as great an impact on the match as a player who is deemed MOTM. It happened here, with Abidal and Puyol. It won’t very often, however.

    The score is how well an individual job is executed, and executed as part of the team’s goals. It’s why the team gets a low mark, yet the individuals can get high marks.

    (Too bad blogs don’t have stickies, right?)

    –As far as poipoi and Pedro! over Henry, that’s why we have comments. Everyone has their opinion. I do know one thing: My thoughts about P! being this season’s Giuly look to be coming true. If we need offense, look for Guardiola to call on him first (yes, even more than Krkic).

    –That’s also good news about Jeffren. I figured he would stay once “Whistling Past the Graveyard” Llorente ruled out the sale of Mata, opting instead to bankrupt the club with more and more loans. It really makes us appreciate Laporta’s efforts at fiscal solidity on the club’s behalf. Taking loans to pay players is just crazy. If Valencia don’t make Champions League this season, look for a fire sale next summer.

    –I confess to not being completely sold on Busquets at this time. I understand when he’s good, he’s very good. I can’t help wishing for more consistiency, however. Yesterday, that giveaway in which he stopped playing to whine about the foul, almost killed us.

    Speaking of….

  14. Hey, putting in the subs ratings would help, wouldn’t it?

    And this is one hell of a day of football. My sofa is going to be permanently indented after all is said and done.

  15. That was a cracking goal. Who can still honestly say he isnt better than “that other guy”

  16. yeah Arshavin just hit an absolute lazer into United’s top right corner, at Old Trafford. sigh. wonder how much he’d cost to pry from Arsene’s old greedy fingers now? 30m? about the same price we rejected as too high from Zenit looks pretty reasonable at present.

    oh, and everyone should take time to watch Marseille v. Bourdeux tomorrow, that should be a cracking game.

  17. it was disappointing during the game that we just were not creating or converting enough quality chances (what few there were). I think in the end everyone put in a good performance. Ibra’s defense was nice….but i kind of wonder about that back-footed pass that just rolled out of play??? haha but no, patience is important. i mean who in the world can just go to our squad and immediately fit into Pep’s system? The fact that many of our players are canteranos definitely goes against Ibra in that they naturally take less time to adapt to the first team. BTW, I totally agree with Kevin’s MOTM: Puyol.

  18. what a silly header by diaby… rooney’s penalty, btw, was a seventh part of the one that wasn’t called for arshavin in the first half…

  19. Kxevin, don’t you think that that Busquets thing is Pep’s fault.

    If Pep would simply slap him on the side of the head and said “Cut that shit out, or else you stay on the bench” , I’m sure that he would stop.

    Obviously we don’t know what goes on in the practices, or in the private conversations, but it seems as if Pep could fix that easily.

  20. JA!! Eboue got a yellow for diving. In the middle of the field!

    btw, judging solely off this game, I wouldn’t pay more than 2 mil for Eboue, and certainly never start him ahead of P! or FF. He has terrible ball control.

  21. I thought Ibrahimovic looked good. He had movement and some good ideas. It’s just that instinctive communication that exists between players who have played many games together that is missing. And that will come with time. Even Pedro! has more “experience” having developed in the Barca system. Messi and Pedro! think like Barca players, so there’s a lot of unspoken football communication in the development of play. Ibrahimovic lacks this “experience”, but it’s clear that Guardiola sees that developing in the proper direction. In Barca I trust.

    My real frustration was Xavi. El General played a good game, and his good games are better than most players’, but he seem to lack the crativity and magic that he often infuses in the game. The midfield just never seemed to spark fire for the offensive drives.

  22. As to where to watch the game, as Kevin mentioned above: add Currently, ESPN360 is listing the Barcelona v Gijon game on Monday as an upcoming broadcast. And the nice thing is that ESPN360 often archives the game for viewing for a few weeks. Which should help those of you in my situation, i.e. unable to watch the game live. That’s if you can access (I never understand the access rules for all of these sites).

  23. By the way guys, it seems all of our CL opponents are reinforcing their squad.

    Inter got Sneijder to fill that CAM role that needed filling.

    Dynamo Kyev just got some guy named Andriy Shevchenko.

  24. did anybody see what rooney just did? he tried to steal a ball with his head (the problem being that the ball was not in the air)…

  25. Xavi looked too marked to me. It’s easy to stop Barça when you only have a playmaker, a ruler. That is why Xavi and Iniesta are so good together. My perception is that none of the two rules more than the other… maybe Xavi rules a bit more but Iniesta… oh my god Iniesta

  26. Assuming this is the real Thierry Henry, then the Thierry Henry twitter page is agreeing with the general assessment of his play yesterday:

    “another win 🙂 and Barças third Super Cup. im not happy with my own performance, i should have scored when ibrahimovic passed the ball 🙁 ”

    (I never know whether to believe it’s the actual celebrity on twitter, or some tool trying to fake it.)

  27. is Sergio Ramos Injured, anyways, we were wondering how the EE would line-up, and they rolled out against Depor like so:

    Arbeloa – Albiol – Garay – Marcelo
    – – Xabi Alonso – Lass Diarra – – –
    – – – – – – – – – – – – Kaka – – – – – – – Raul-
    Ronaldo- – – – – – – – Benzema- – – – – –

    Shitty 4-4-2, its not being broadcast, so i cant tell who is actually playing where, but that is the positions that ESPN gamecast has assigned to them. it looks like the attack isn’t balanced well, and that Defense shouldn’t Inspire confidence in anyone. Go Depor!

  28. Hah my sister says that Iniesta looks like a serial killer, and the Yaya has “an attitude”.

    I couldn;t help laughing. By the way, I hope that IbraHOMOvic thing on his player rating is a typo. lol

  29. CRon’s first goal…Depor almost got away with it though…had it not been for that dastardly linesman.

  30. AC v Milan:

    Zambrota – Thiago – Nesta – Jankulovski
    –Thiago Motta—-Stankovic—-Zanetti—-
    ——————Julio Cesar——————–

  31. wow!!!!! milan inter!!!! I had no idea. thanks elshowdejason.

    it’s nice to see real hoping they loose but ronnie vs samu… I have to see it!! 😛

  32. hey Dave, if you wonder into the policies of this here blog, you’ll find this:

    “We only delete or edit those comments that include:

    -abusive or excessively foul language.
    -contain racist, sexist, homophobic and other slurs against anyone (be they a member of the forum, a player, or otherwise).”

  33. yeah, PoiPoi, like Kxevin said. Big day for football today, their will be Ass imprints on couches all around the world.

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