The ugliness of Ujfalusi

This play disgusts me for so many reasons. I don’t think that another professional should ever deliberately try to injure a fellow professional. I also find it appalling that people who support other teams are crowing in joy over the fact that the above bit of violence has sidelined our star player. I mean, another human being’s misery will help their club, so why not cheer, right?

At some point, every football fan, at ANY club, should realize that if Ujfalusi did it to Messi, what’s to stop someone else from doing it to their star player? It’s a line that’s been transgressed before, but rarely with such premeditated malice. Anyhow. For those who haven’t seen it, here it is.

Early reports are saying that Messi will be out for two weeks, with the rather nebulous “ligament damage.” But the first step will be to get the swelling down, so that a proper examination can happen. We know more then.

For now, this moment of shame needs to be out there.

A very smart blogger on Twitter, Sonia Gelma, asked if everyone would be this upset had Ujfalusi injured Maxwell? The obvious answer is no. Or is it? To me, savagery such as Ujfalusi’s tarnishes the game, and drags it into a very different level, one that I’m not sure I want to see.

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63 Comments

  1. jose89
    September 19, 2010

    haven’t bothered to take a look around the internets for various people’s reactions to the injury, but i’m not surprised that some fans are taking glee in this fact.

    this is going to give otherwise fringe players a real chance to show us what they’re made of. i just hope this injury doesn’t come back to haunt messi later in the season.

  2. Jose
    September 19, 2010

    As I said in the last post, if the BFB community ever gets even half as juvenile and petty as the Real Madrid Offside, I’ll stop coming. Truly appalling behavior.

    Oh, and Ujfalusi should get an extra match ban (over what a single red card would merit) at the very least.

    A win that doesn’t feel like a win, indeed…

    • Jnice
      September 19, 2010

      As I said in the last post, if the BFB community ever gets even half as juvenile and petty as the Real Madrid Offside, I’ll stop coming. Truly appalling behavior.

      Yup.

      • Jnice
        September 19, 2010

        And now, we aren’t supposed to be mad that a player tried to deliberately injure ours. Strange.

    • jnelson
      September 19, 2010

      extra ban won’t happen. it will get reduced if anything. thats how this screwed up Liga works.

  3. GREECE BARCA
    September 19, 2010

    i am sad from what happened.but i have faith in our team.WE ARE A TEAM.

  4. GREECE BARCA
    September 19, 2010

    oh!and pique.s goal was a fucking great striker move!please!make a clone of him!

  5. Kari
    September 19, 2010

    Yeah. What some people said over at the EE offside was just sick. And disappointing. I didn’t think they’d go so low…

    I get some fans have given them stick over Thong Boy, but that doesn’t mean the “people did it, so we’ll do it” childishness applies. Besides, it’s not like we were crowing with joy that Thong Boy was injured, at least, not from what I remember. Never a “hahaha! Thong Boy got injured. Hope it’s serious and stays out for as long as possible and bad form when he recovers. I’ll buy the guy who injured him a beer!” like what they’re saying over at the EE blog.

    Personally, my reaction to TB’s ankle injury was “Hey, look TB’s out. Maybe EE will falter a bit. Or not. They’ll make it work, somehow, some way….”.

    Whatevs. Let this be a reminder for the people of the BFB community to never sink that low. Not cool guys. The high road is the only road worth talking IMO, especially in situations like this.

  6. vicsoc8
    September 19, 2010

    To wish another person injury, or ill health, is disgusting and inhumane. To take pleasure in another person’s hardship is also disgusting. There really isn’t anything else to say about it.

  7. Vj
    September 19, 2010

    First of all, I’d ask Sonia Gelma if Ujfalusi would’ve deliberately hacked down Maxwell, or atleast had a chance to do that to him?

    Meh, what do you expect from Madridistas? Of course they’ll be jumping up and down after tonight.. what can you say about a club who has spent a shitload of money on new players, which hires and fires managers at will and still needs players from other clubs to be injured if they are to win?

    As GREECE BARCA said, we are a team, we should be able to cope with Messi’s absence for Messi’s sake atleast.. The fixture list doesn’t look all that tough. I hope he and other players get more protection from the refs hence onwards..

    • September 19, 2010

      word, vj.
      add to the mix that they have worse player such as Pepe who assaulted Casquero with him laid on the ground. that’s who they are cheering for.

  8. Juan Carlos
    September 19, 2010

    I beg to differ… I get the fact that this is a Barca blog and you’re Barca fans… But to call the Madrid fans immature and low, is just pure hypocrisy
    Try be a little impartial… I see people wishing harm on Ronaldo all the time…
    And calling him “thong boy” is hardly mature either.

    Every team has at least one player who has a nasty streak, whether seeking to injure another player or similar disgraceful attitude
    One of the worst culprits of all time is Mascherano, so let’s not be too hasty in dishing out labels.

    That being said I wish Messi a speedy recovery.
    From a Valencia fan.

    • vicsoc8
      September 19, 2010

      You don’t see people wishing ANYONE harm here.

      “Thong boy” is a bit of jest, like they were calling Messi “Quasimodo”, no harm in that.

    • Kari
      September 19, 2010

      I challenge you to find anyone on this blog that wished bodily harm to other players. I’ve been on this site for a while now, and not once have I read anything like that. I’m not making this a ” Just another reason why Barca fans are greater than Madrid fans” argument. Every fanbase has its share of idiots.

      No one was expecting EE fans to say “Oh, gee. Messi’s injured, such a shame. 🙁 ” That would be naive and, well, stupid because they’re our rivals. What’s disturbing here is the “hope it’s serious” and “it brings a smile on my face” type comments. A dude rolling around in agony makes you smile?! I can say that I’ve never, ever smiled when any player was on the ground injured. Never. Because, really, as much as you don’t like a player, you wouldn’t want them get hurt or anything. If they were gone, who would you dislike?

      Thong Boy is a joke we have here, like how we call Puyol “Captain Caveman” or Iniesta “GhostFace”. Just a bit of fun.

  9. Diego S.
    September 19, 2010

    Just Look at what Kxevin wrote at the Panathinaikos Review

    “P.S. Spare a moment and a good thought for Antonio Valencia, the talented Manchester United attacker whose season came to an end today on a fluke of a play, really, in which a fairly mundane challenge resulted in a shattered ankle. That’s how easy it can happen folks”

    Especially when probably no ManU fans visit this page .. We feel bad because that’s a person’s life !!

    • ML
      September 19, 2010

      one of his classy moments.

      reminds me of henry in NY, were he injured a keeper and went to apologize to him at halftime, and offered his condolences.

  10. barca96
    September 19, 2010

    **http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fuck-you-Ujfalusiiii/156106317740683?ref=ts&v=wall

  11. GREECE BARCA
    September 19, 2010

    no my friend valencia fan.we want to face every team with their best players.we are barca fans.we hate madrid no ronaldo.we wil win without leo..and i don.t give a shit what madrid fans said.we are two different worlds..i like to smell their fear.because we don.t fear ANY tem in the world.

  12. poipoi
    September 19, 2010

    I won’t weep about that, messi is the player that dribbles the most, the one that passes past the defenders but so damn near and that is risky… this stuff happens all the time and it would hurt only a bit less if it happened to maxwell. it’s an ugly foul he steps on messi but I don’t think ujfalusi or whatever wants to make him rest a couple of weeks or months or anything. it’s not like a hell of a kick from behind or some “scissors”. I can’t judge him ’cause I’ve never defended messi 😉

    remember goikoetxea and maradona?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8_JYHtvTS8

    what happened tonight is little compared to that IMO. I don’t see that kind of will to hurt somebody in his foul, sincerely. this is a criminal, not ujfalusi. poor leo but poor ujfalusi also he carries the guilt for that play that happened in a second. the press are gonna be so much on his ass. good luck it is only two weeks btw…

  13. jnelson
    September 19, 2010

    wow. After seeing replays of that live, I am pissed. Pictures only tell half the story. There was intent all over that. What a piece of trash. Boo Weligton. Boo Ujafool. Boo Drenthe. It is so pathetic and low to stoop to deliberately injury and/or celebrate such an act of violence. Pure. disgust. This only reinforces my belief in Barca and the pursuit of beautiful futbol. Destruction is the worst action. If you must get revenge, do so by besting your opponent. Here’s to crushing (in a score sense) every single one of the cheap futballing bastards out there. Visca el Barca.

  14. ML
    September 19, 2010

    This is apalling behaviour from other fans, but i cant say the barcelona fanbase is much different.

    Ive seen a many barca fan in my lifetime, and most of us are very passionate about the club. But when things go sour, theyre behaviour matches those who cheer because messi is hurt. Ive heard and read many a fan say/write things like; “I hope higuain tore a ligament once in a while” and “f*** ronaldo, he can break his leg, and then i might cheer for him”, among other things. On blogs like the offside, totalbarca and the goal.com pages, i constantly find fans commenting on how happy they are to see an opposing player go down under our challenges, or how a player got hurt. Disgraceful.

    This is where this blog comes into it, BFB is by far the most intellectual and solid based blog i have ever come across, you guys respect others’ opinions and never let trolls get you down :D. Its the best out on the WWW, and you guys should be proud of what you do, and how you behave yourselves. Most of the fans cant criticize other clubs being happy because of this, because a minority of our fans do the same. But on BFB, next to noone is like this, and i am truly grateful for that.

    /end rant. sorry for any grammatical or punctuation errors, wrote this in a hurry.

    • Jose
      September 19, 2010

      No, yeah, I completely agree with you. Neither myself, Kxevin or most posters here are making this a “This is why Barca fans are better than Madrid fans” argument. I’ve interacted with enough Madrile~os and Catalanes to know that each fanbase has its distribution of good and bad fandom.

      It’s a “what those people over there are doing is disgusting” argument. This community on BFB would never act like that, and for that I am grateful. How can one write such mental trash?

      • ML
        September 19, 2010

        Id say nearly all posters, 98%, are truly curteous and well mannered. But its the minority that is damaging our image internationally, and with other clubs.

        • Luna
          September 19, 2010

          I think it would be fair to say, for the most part, fans understand you want the best on the pitch, and there have been some, in the minority I think who type and state horrible comments about an opponents injuries. They relish in pissing people off.

          I don’t like Ronaldo, but I don’t wish him injury and frankly hate how he is subjected to homophobic comments, that which shamefully are more common

  15. Alexinho
    September 19, 2010

    I looked over at the RM Offside, and I didn’t see anything too offensive. Maybe Andres85 was a bit off-color, but far from outrageous–we’ve seen way, way worse from Arsenal and Liverpool malcontents.

    I highlight a comment from one Adwidevi…

    “as i told u no one is happy.. we simply dont care about messi as much as u all do…. we are not glad that this happened.. we dont want this to happen again…

    but now this has happened deal with it.. it is not the first time a players ankle is strained… not the first time a deliberate malicious tackle has happened.. the player got red card and i want him to get a harsher sentence….

    u want the football to change …. question the footballers as professionals….. now that messi is injured.. may be for some players at some points it is not just a profession it is war… how do u want to control that…they get punishment as stipulated in football…maybe some times justice is not done.. but tell me which justice system is?

    don’t u believe u all are becoming more concerned because its messi… not some lesser player….. the irony is there itself… majority of barcelona fans would be less vocal and less infuriated if it was a less critical player…its a harsh reality……

    I never cheer for ur player’s to get injured either…. but there may be some who find that amusing.. who we are we to claim that all our fans are a better group when all we know are handful fans of our club….

    We are as humane as you are… dont crown yourself….”

    There’s a lot of panicking around these parts, and there’s more than a tinge of anger. But we should ask ourselves if we are being a bit oversensitive?

    Reports say Messi will be out for TWO TO FOUR WEEKS. Goddamn, are we lucky or what? We are so fortunate with our injury record that it is ridiculous. And really, we need that fortune with such a short squad. That’s probably why a lot of us are so angry.

    It’s going to be an interesting 2-4 weeks. It’s time to show the world that we’re a great team without Messi, because it is most definitely something to prove.

    For the record, I still think we won’t see him until late October at the earliest. I do hope I am wrong.

    • Jnice
      September 19, 2010

      Oversensitive? I would be angry if it was Bojan who got injured.

      Point is, dude tried to deliberately injure one of our players.

      And I don’t care if Messi was only out for 2 days. It’s wrong.

    • September 19, 2010

      Thank you very much! Exactly what I’m trying to bring across.

  16. Benj
    September 19, 2010

    And don’t get narky because we call him Thong boy, we call Puyi Captain Caveman, Bojan is Cuddly Toy, the list goes on. Thats just normal banter. Every team has it, Mezut Ozil is a goldfish, Gary Neville is a rat, Tevez is Cat from Red Dwarf etc etc etc.

    I can’t stand players like Crynaldo, but I would never wish them injured, we want them all to be at their best, so that we can say we beat them at their best.

    Otherwise it all turns out like last years champions league campaign vs Arsenal with fans saying “oh but you beat our 2nd string side etc”.

    We are Barca and we can (AND WILL) win, with or without Messi.

    Here’s to a speedy recovery though…

  17. Euler
    September 19, 2010

    A very smart blogger on Twitter, Sonia Gelma, asked if everyone would be this upset had Ujfalusi injured Maxwell? The obvious answer is no. Or is it?

    I disagree with Gelma rhetorical point to begin with.

    The purpose of a kind of counterfactual argument that she is putting forth is in theory to illustrate a principle.

    But Gelma is missing the principle because she’s not specifying the context.

    The fact is that Ujfalusi didn’t attack Maxwell. And that’s not some accident. The reason why the attack was generated in the first place and the reason why it was intentionally so vicious was because it was Messi. Messi’s identity as the player being attacked wasn’t accidental. Nor was it random or a probabilistic function (e.g. Ujfalusi attacked the player with the ball closest to him…)

    Ujfalusi was frustrated and angry about the game and the officiating. In turn, he decided to attack Messi as a product of that hostility because he is Messi. There is no counterfactual of relevance here, especially with regard to Maxwell. The fact is he didn’t attack Maxwell and he had ample opportunity to do so if he chose.

    As with many examples of violence, it’s the specific instance, not the abstract class of problem that is most important. To speculate on reactions to reappropriated contexts misses the point entirely

    • Kxevin
      September 19, 2010

      I disagree. I think that her point is perfectly taken. The quality of the player magnifies the violence of the interaction. Her question is to simply bring up that point. She’s close to the club, and understands the situation. I thought that her point was valid. It’s doubtful that we would have been as horrfied, even if we should have been. We would have said “Well, that’s why we signed Adriano, and Abidal will be back,” and moved on.

      • Euler
        September 19, 2010

        The quality of the player magnifies the violence of the interaction.

        I think it was the quality of the player that drove the violence in the first place. That’s why I don’t think the counterfactual holds.

        Maybe it’s just me – but part of what sickens me about this is that he did it because it was Messi. That was not the kind of foul that is vented on a player like Maxwell.

        I understand the general principle and there is a point in there. I don’t think that’s how the point is best illustrated however. It’s the specificity of the attack that is particularly troubling because of how and why it was committed.

      • barca96
        September 19, 2010

        But the thing is Kxevin, players don’t go out trying to hurt players like Maxwell or Pique or S.Ramos etc. They always target players like Messi, Ronaldo etc.

  18. Kxevin
    September 19, 2010

    By the by, Thong Boy is my nickname. It is thus because of the odd way that he stands right before he takes free kicks. As though he was wearing a thong. Simple as that. No other inferences are to be drawn. Some folks over at the EE Offside liked it, and started calling him that, as well. It’s a nickname. Simple as that.

    • September 19, 2010

      lol, so i thought it was a well-known nickname worldwide and you started it. lolx2. i can’t help but to draw other advertising pictures to the name.

    • Lev
      September 19, 2010

      “Some folks over at the EE Offside liked it, and started calling him that, as well.”

      i doubt you meant for this to be funny, but it really cracked me up! lol

    • Jose
      September 19, 2010

      I like Thong Boy and all, but I sort of prefer Isaiah’s Crynaldo (which later evolved into CryFuckFace) just a smidgen more. 😛

    • September 19, 2010

      Yupp, I’m a big fan of that name.

      I think you have to understand, each expresses in his own way. I will repost something that was posted on our blog.

      “as i told u no one is happy.. we simply dont care about messi as much as u all do…. we are not glad that this happened.. we dont want this to happen again…

      but now this has happened deal with it.. it is not the first time a players ankle is strained… not the first time a deliberate malicious tackle has happened.. the player got red card and i want him to get a harsher sentence….

      u want the football to change …. question the footballers as professionals….. now that messi is injured.. may be for some players at some points it is not just a profession it is war… how do u want to control that…they get punishment as stipulated in football…maybe some times justice is not done.. but tell me which justice system is?

      don’t u believe u all are becoming more concerned because its messi… not some lesser player….. the irony is there itself… majority of barcelona fans would be less vocal and less infuriated if it was a less critical player…its a harsh reality……

      I never cheer for ur player’s to get injured either…. but there may be some who find that amusing.. who we are we to claim that all our fans are a better group when all we know are handful fans of our club….

      We are as humane as you are… dont crown yourself….”

      Yes some comments might have went over the edge a bit, but i think thats because what you expect when two fans of opposite clubs start a discussion over something as huge as this. When we lost our first game against sevilla, we had people that i see right now on your blog come and write “buy 7 players= 250 mill. Watch them screw up= priceless”. We have had to close comments several times, Me and Corey that is, because of comments drawn from fans right here. You have to understand this is how this works.

      You wish all the posters where the Coreys and Issiahs and the Kevens etc etc but thats not how it works.

      Messi is valuable for the club, and he is the one who is mostly on form right now carrying the team until Villa gets his shooting boots on. Losing him is tragic whether it was this way or in training and it would have led to the same response.

      As for Ujfalusi, and considering I’ve seen our players get tackles of similar intensity, then i believe that he should get a further ban.

      Anyways, Peace!

      Hala Madrid!

  19. Euler
    September 19, 2010

    On another, more positive note on the match.

    I briefly mentioned this on the live blog as well – but Sergio Busquets is rapidly becoming one of the most multi-dimensional, flexible and tactically interesting players in the world. I’ll try to write about this soon in more detail. But while we saw Busi play as a kind of hybrid holding midfielder/ CB last season at times, we are seeing that level of play taken to potentially another level this season (still early but there have been signs so far…)

    I have some mixed feelings about this with regards to it’s impact on the team. But it’s really quire remarkable watching Busi play a position that few other players in the world can play right now.

    Busi is well on his way to becoming one of the worlds finest holding players and one of the most tactically unique, if he isn’t already at the age of 22.

  20. Kari
    September 19, 2010

    I’m upset for two reason: 1) this injury was completely, 100%, avoidable and 2) I remember Messi’s previous injury woes. As my favorite player and the ones I owe thanks to for getting me into football, I’m always really sad to see him injured.

    I think we’ll get by fine without him. Iniesta, Xavi, Villa, Pedro!, Abidal should be back… Pique who’s a fine offender (offensive defender).I think our offense relies on Messi, but I don’t think we’ll fall apart. We won’t win games as comfortably, but we’ll get the job done. Messi’s been injured before with an ankle injury last season away to Dynamo Kiev (again, where he picked it up at the end of the game and was a doubt to play the CWC). We beat Inter quite convincingly without him (and Ibra for that matter). We’ll be fine without Leo for a couple of games.

    It just sucks that we have to.

  21. vicsoc8
    September 19, 2010

    As always, there is a very good write-up about the game over at Zonal Marking, for those who like the more tactical aspects of the game.

  22. puchanamano
    September 19, 2010

    i blame the ugly green away kits. get well soon leo!

  23. Kari
    September 19, 2010

    I hope people are getting ready to see LW Iniesta, because I gotta feeling that our first choice lineup will be this for a while:

    Valdes
    Alves – Pique – Puyol (Milito) – Abidal
    Xavi – Busi – Keita
    Pedro! – Villa – Iniesta

    With Bojan, sMasch, and CB!Abidal making appearances often.

    • September 19, 2010

      again,lets try

      VV
      Alves Puyol Milito Abidal
      Busquets
      Xavi Iniesta
      Pedro Pique Villa

      no, i am not for real. but Pique goes up a lot more than before anyway, and I like it as long as he or other teammates make up for the position we go out of.

  24. Euler
    September 19, 2010

    I think we’ll see quite a bit of Iniesta on the wing. But the key variable that is going to decide much of what’s done is Bojan. Tactically one gets the sense that Pep would like to keep Villa on the left. In theory that would make the most sense in terms of the players now available because Bojan seems to be better in the middle than on the wings. Hopefully he can elevate his play because then you can replace an injured player from the center with another central player and keep everyone else in their roles.

    This would be particularly good to do given how Villa is still adjusting. Moving him between positions may complicate that.

    It’s up to Bojan now.

    Another factor in how the attack will be structured is how much the club can continue to push forward both full backs aggressively at the cost of opening up space between it’s lines in midfield. That area in Barca’s defense seems very vulnerable right now and makes possessing the ball particularly important. During quick transition play and counters the opposition has a lot of room to utilize – not only in back of the defensive line but in front of it. Not sure if the attack can continue down both flanks the way it has to this degree.

  25. lol
    September 19, 2010

    ” And by the by, we can learn something from Mascherano. Take the foul. When Abidal lunged for that steal and missed it, leading to the second Hercules goal? Position your body so that if you don’t get the ball, you get the man. Foul his ass. Yes, you take a foul. Better than taking a goal.” – Kxevin

    yet you calling Ujfalusi every name in the book for doing the same , yes Messi got injured but only because he was unlucky Ujfalusi never intented to injure no matter what you say , he was just doing what you, kxevin , wanted abidal to do to the hercules player

    talk about being an hypocrite

    • September 19, 2010

      Wrong. So comprehensively wrong. Taking the professional foul is completely, comprehensively different than what Ujfalusi did, which was to stomp on a star player’s ankle in a fit of pique. He wasn’t stopping a goal scoring opportunity, he wasn’t stopping a breakaway. All that he was doing potentially ending a career.

      If you’re going to call someone names, you’d better have a lot more than misplaced dudgeon to back up the assertion. Because stuff like that makes me lol. All day and all night.

    • Manish
      September 19, 2010

      just shows you don’t understand what taking a foul is..

    • Euler
      September 19, 2010

      Please, don’t try to pretend to be so naive. Kxevin was talking about Mascherano tactically fouling on that play. Mascherano gave a professional foul that did not injure a player.

      Tactical fouling has long been part of football. Just take a look at the way Bielsa’s Chile team played during the World Cup. And Chile was much admired for their open style of play. That’s wha Kxevin was referring to in that post.

      To strip a quote out of the long post and try to take away the context for what he was saying is ridiculous and a cheap rhetorical ploy.

      Uljfalusi was not trying to play the ball in any way. He was trying to tackle Messi’s ankle. Look at the still motion shots – his head is squarely focused on Messi’s ankle not the ball. It was cheap, dirty play.

      That’s why he got a straight red for that tackle. A red card which of course Mascherano didn’t come close to getting.

      • lol
        September 19, 2010

        first of all Ujfalusi was already booked thats why he got a red card

        i have seen the video but i have seen NOTHING that indicates that he INTENTIONALLY wanted to injure Messi , from what i saw he was trying to commit a professional foul because he knew Messi was already getting away but whatever makes you sleep better

        go on , get all your anger out on him i am sure that will make lionel feel better

  26. lol
    September 19, 2010

    How do you know that Ujfalusi wasnt trying to get the ball but missed so he got messi’s ankle instead ? did you tell by just looking at the above video that Ujfalusi was looking to deliberately hurt Barcelona’s star player

    lol all you want but there is absolutely no difference between what Ujfalusi intented to do and what YOU wanted abidal to do , he was just unlucky to have caught Lionel Messi’s ankle

    • Euler
      September 19, 2010

      He got a straight red for that card. You get a straight red on that play for a reason.

      But let me guess, the ref was just biased in this case.

      Not only do we get trolls on this blog in increasing number they progressively get dumber and dumber.

      • lol
        September 19, 2010

        Ujfalusi HAD A YELLOW before the foul lol can you comprehend ? and i am the one who is dumb right ?

        • Jose
          September 19, 2010

          You don’t get it. Yes he had a yellow. But Ujfalusi got a straight red, not a second yellow.

        • Euler
          September 19, 2010

          and i am the one who is dumb right ?

          Why in fact you are. Not only don’t you understand basics of football like the difference between tactical fouling and dirty play you don’t even understand the action of the match and what happened.

          Ujfalusi was already shown a yellow card earlier in the match.

          But he was not shown a second yellow. He was shown a straight red card.

          Let’s see if you can understand that. Because I’ve already stated it twice.

          Think about how awful the referee thought the foul was. He could have shown him a second yellow and that still would have had him off the pitch. But the referee didn’t do that. Instead he gave him a direct red card – not a second yellow – because he thought the foul was so dirty.

          The foul was so egregiously bad that it didn’t warrant a second yellow. It warranted a direct red card. And he got that red card due to the dirty nature of the play. And that’s a huge difference. A difference you don’t seem to understand.

          You come to troll a blog without having your facts correct or even understanding what happened in the match.

          Yes you are dumb.

          Here’s a reference:

          “The world player of the year clashed with Ujfalusi and the Czech defender, was was already on a yellow, was shown a straight red card.”

          *http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/sep/19/lionel-messi-injury-barcelona-atletico-madrid

  27. Bundy
    September 20, 2010

    things like these happen, Taking a professional foul is intended to apply the LOWEST POSSIBLE risk of a cautionary.

    If however Ujfalusi truthfully intended on a professional foul, still there is an element of RISK, and when any play takes that risk, they have to accept whatever consequences follow.

    in the case for Mascherano, he is taking a risk, but the LOWEST POSSIBLE RISK. IF however he ended up being cautioned then he deserved it.

    Ujfalusi deserved to be given a straight red. On top of that he has to live with the experience, whether it from expressed disappointment from fans in general or the media.

    If it was intended then he still deserved the consequences that follow.

  28. Helge
    September 20, 2010

    I know Ujfalusi from his time at the Hamburger SV. He has already been a controversial player back then, because he had this sort of aggressive, dirty style of play BUT he didn’t showcase it in the most obvious way. Nonetheless I can remember that he was usually one of the most disliked players from HSV on away matches and he has made several semi-malicious fouls during his Bundesliga career.

    Speaking of semi-malicious fouls: I wouldn’t go as far as saying he wanted to injure Messi deliberately. But he surely put up with an injury. And that is the difference between a semi-malicious and a completely maliciously intended, brutal foul. I want to remind you of Ryan Shawcross’ foul on Jack Wilshere (last season) or the one on Carlos Eduardo (2 or 3 years ago). That were deliberate, brutal fouls with the intention to seriously injure the player, to top it off, they were both absolutely useless because neither Wilshere nor Eduardo were even close to scoring a goal in that moment.

  29. poipoi
    September 20, 2010

    now that we have to play some games without messi I’d love to see

    valdes
    alves pique puyi adriano
    masche
    iniesta xavi busi
    pedro villa

    the idea of seeing all three “power mids” at the same time on the pitch even crossed my mind, masche busi keita. Like… Would it ever happen? I’d bet something on the NO. It would be nice also to see all three of xavi thiago and iniesta in the same line-up with ineista as false winger

  30. Cule24
    September 20, 2010

    I really don’t understand why everyone is having a fit about the madridistas reaction to Messi’s injury. I expected it. It’s just gives neutrals a reason to hate their team even more. Personally, I’m not surprised by their reaction and I’m not too worried about our chances in the next 4-5 games. In fact, I think madridistas will be full of envy when a certain Thiago gets more minutes and overshadows their Canales, especially if we go 4 for 4 or 5 for 5. My only worry is that the two weeks layoff for Messi will affect his form and make him less hesitant so as to avoid another injury.

  31. Cule24
    September 20, 2010

    bs.com says he may be out for only 10 days.

  32. El Diez
    September 20, 2010

    Any foul that result in hurting a players is bad. It shouldnt be entertained.
    We dont have to discuss about what RM fans thinks, obviously they will happy considering that Messi wont feature for some games. Just leave that, we cannot expect everyone to think in same way.

    Hope a speed recovery for Messi and moreover hoping it will not affect his form.

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