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as always, post links to the good streams here
i’m out of beer.
haven’t watched a barca game sober in a long time.
Looking forward to some Barca in HD!
I shake my first at all you Americans! Grr!
I hate typos, they make sentences sound weird. -.-
ESPN2 in HD. Yum! That also means the nice ESPN Web feed, though it will be deeeeellllaaaayyyyyed, as usual.
anyone got the line-up yet? 🙁
Valdés, Alves, Piqué, Puyol, Maxwell, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta Pedro, Messi, Villa.
I called it I called it I called it.
it does kick ass
Queenie’s got some skills!
Pep went for our full-strength lineup! Yes! Bring on the Maydrits! (I honestly never looked at their logo closely enough the bear/tree part. Huh.)
I get the bear and the tree, but it’s the stars and stripes that befuddle me.
same as last week except abidal maxwell
Awwwwww yeah! I’m so pumped for this one! Got an ESPN2 Veetle stream for y’all. It’s not that laggy for the 10 seconds I was watching it and in great quality too!
Ah, LiveBlog. So distracting and yet oh-so-addicting. Sigh.
does veetle lag for you periodically every ten minutes or so though? can’t ever seem to find a stream that can last 90+ without freezing up 🙁
Well, it depends on the internet connection of the person hosting it. I’ve gone through some games with literally no lag, and others where I could barely watch it (and it usually lagged just when a goal was scored).
I actually plan to watch it right now to see just how laggy it is.
This one’s a keeper, jose89.
wait, Nascar? lol
i mean same as Tuesday
Villareal not playing particularly well despite being 2 up over Levante.
Valencia down to 10 men and trying to hold on to a 2-1 lead over Hercules. The referee for this game is atrocious, but it’s great fun to watch.
Valencia down to 9 men now!
Dayum. What’s happening in that one?!
They had someone stretchered off. Not sure if he has come back on yet.
referee is incredibly biased towards hercules. That penalty should never have been given.
In the matches where Maxwell has played, the presence of two full backs that essentially function as “wing backs” and aggressively push up has given the team considerable width.
At the same time however, if functionally leaves Barca with a 3 man back line as Busi falls back to play with the 2 CB, at least until the wing backs catch up to defend.
The issue with playing in this kind of dynamic formation is that when Busi falls back not only makes the team vulnerable on the counter, it essentially reduces the team to playing in “3 bands.” They lose the holding player and this opens up a great deal of space for the opposition to utilize between the midfield and defensive lines.
Leaving that space open could be a major problem against Atleti. Maxwell and Alves need to be more constrained than usual in pushing up to provide width, Maxwell in particular as he doesn’t have great pace to recover positioning deep.
If Pep leaves, I think you should take his place!
Knew it! I knew it!
So my girlfriend just showed me something hilarious everyone should watch. She was listening to Ray Hudson and was like, have you heard the video, Germans Who Say Nice Things, with steve carrell, bc it reminded her of him….lol
Who the hell is Cloin? Dont get me started on failed changed names again…
Haha, Colin is my real name.
Oops. Sorry 🙂
No worries, easy to see how it could be confusing.
what a goal ay berbaflop!haha!the guy is so much better than ibra,i wish he where here last summer…!let.s go for the win!!
My internet died at a terrible time. Can anyone explain what happened to lead to Messi being carried of the field? 🙁
pep with the ass slaps, haha. what counts today was getting +3 at the calderon. just hope messi is OK. he looked like he got hurt bad.
The Messi injury did not look good.
Bad tackle – straight red – and Messi in considerable pain.
Yeah it sucks. Thou I liked how Mascherano immediately returned some pain back. Payback’s a bitch.
Messi. Ankle. Injured. Didn’t get back up.
Pardon my French but OH SHIT.
The Video Explains the Situation
any news about messi?
Instead of feeling sweet, this feels aweful. I hope next time we meet, we freaking breatk ujfulusi’s leg. well, i am being emotional. dont think that foul was too bad but i feel like kicking the guy to hell (considering his size and mine, this is a total fantasy).
considering history, this might mean 4-6 weeks off and that includes so many of our big matches that i am worried like hell.
I felt horror that I haven’t felt since early 2008. Messi on the floor and not getting up.
the injury 2 messi looks bad.when he is carried out on the strecher after the match,PEP didnt bother to have a look on that.that gives a glimmer of hope that the medical team assured him that it was not so serious as it was seemed
I will be furiously checking Pep’s twitter for updates.
Bring Any News here .. I don’t have a twitter
You don’t need to have twitter to see his tweets (after all, I don’t have it either)
Go here and you’ll see them : /http://twitter.com/barcastuff
Both of you, get one STAT.
Messi injury will overshadow the performance of some key men in this tie, one of which was Pique. Bagged a goal and made key interceptions all night.
Havent been on the liveblog in a while, was a treat.
All in all, tough match, but we have a cl tie to look forward to.
while the injury extend is not yet known , this was bound to happen at somepoint.
Athletes get injured and every club must have an answer to this.
Bojan , time to step up!
All summer long we’ve heard about the wonderful virtues of a “small squad.”
Well we’re probably going to see now how great it is now.
Many if not most squads would have taken off their striker by the end of that kind of difficult match. Especially when that striker worked so hard as they only effective front line attacker and also tracking back over and over.
The lack of finishing for that third goal was extremely costly. Get that third goal and Messi can come off without a problem.
As it is depth continues to be a growing concern. Messi is injured. Maxwell, Puyol, Alves and Masch all pick up cards.
And it really concerns me that Pep had so such little confidence in Bojan that he didn’t even play him. The team was effectively playing with 3 forwards today.
The lack of depth at the front line is going to be seriously tested.
Not sure about a lack of faith in Bojan. I thought Pep’s substitutes were therivht ones, although maybe a little late. I just don’t think there was ever a time in this game when putting Bojan on would have made sense, faith or no faith.
If it’s just torn ligaments that was always 6 weeks for me 🙁
Next match against Gijon on Wednesday.
i felt sick 2 my stomach when i saw messi didnt stood up.bring back the memories of the celtic game in CL when he left the field crying
Crime against humanity.
LOL, that made we chuckle.
yea lol. But really this is bad
Fo’ sho’, Roz
i always wondered why PEP continues 2 play messi for the whole 90 minutes.this has been a question for me a very long time.until 2 day nothng happened but why PEP why?
like 2 hear some comments about squad quality versus squad quantity
Should have gotten Messi off the pitch earlier. He was exhausted as it was. The match was getting more and more chippy. A thuggish take down in extra time wasn’t a surprise.
Its broke, goon peps blog and look at the pic
3 weeks off probably , by the looks of it.
I think Pep will go with a front line of Pedro on the right, Villa in the center and Iniesta on the left, with Mascherano playing in midfield now. Not a bad lineup for a few games but man…if we’ve lost him for more than a couple of weeks, we’re in huge, huge trouble.
From Pep’s twitter. Guardiola says Messi is injured but on first examination it does not appear broken
Guardiola: “Messi isn’t good. Tests tomorrow. At first sight, nothing is broken, but he’s injured.” #fcblive
busi played in the middle in a 3 man defence.his performance assured me that he also can play as a CB alongside a pacy CB ie puyol or abidal
if it isnt broken what can it be?
Just saw a picture of Messi’s foot. He’s out for a while. Holy shit.
Guardiola: “I’m very proud of my team, with these guys you can take on anything.”
He is setting them up for life after Messi.
Messi update all via barcastuff
His foot after the tackle ( 🙁 ): /http://twitpic.com/2q2obv
Guardiola: “Messi isn’t good. Tests tomorrow. At first sight, nothing is broken, but he’s injured”
🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁
Crap can’t post a link to it. Sorry, folks. But it’s ugly. As sin. I’d guess a month.
It was here a minute ago. I followed it.
Yeah, I just posted the link to Messi’s foot above
Poor guy 🙁
Messi rolled his ankle. Luckly it is his right one. They has the shoe off and you could see it was already swollen, but I have had friends who just needed 2-3 weeks to get back to normal.
Not a big deal. Other players will have to step up.
And was about to say that our schedule doesn’t look so bad, then saw Atletic away and Mallorca in the next two weeks. Damn.
got on to peps twitter via google search.it shows me an account of 17th august of 2009
can anyone please refer me pepes twitter
Don’t want to be pessimistic but with torn ligaments I don’t think the swelling comes round the front of the ankle like that. Hope for the best. He deserves it.
probably a strain. 2nd -3rd degree and it will keep him sidelined for 3-4 weeks at least.
It looks bad but these type of injuries tend to swell the ankle a bit more by the end of the first night.Then its all about recuperation.
how much the right foot has swollen
Sorry, courtesy of Pep’s blog.
Euler even if we score 5 leo doesnt come off.The last time number 10 came up on the board proactively as opposed to reactionary was probably 2008.He always wants to play.
But Jordi part of the point I’m trying to make is that this needs to change.
The team has 5 forwards, two of who are Bojan and Jeffren. This isn’t like years past. They can’t just afford to play Messi 90 minutes every match and not sub him out when it makes sense.
He was the entire attack today. Villa and Pedro were either poor or invisible. Messi played as a false 9 and not only dropped deep to collect the ball but also tracked back defensively.
At some point playing 90 minutes becomes completely impractical and harmful.
Im not saying its right.I always scream for him to get rested,though Even when he gets rested he comes on at 55 minutes :).I was just saying realistically if we had taken our chances he wouldnt have come off.hopefully it will change but i wouldnt hold my breath even if we had 6 world class forwards some day.
Not having more depth at striker is now an enormous problem. It’s great to talk about small squad’s but the team is now down to 4 true forwards two of whom are Bojan and Jeffren.
The team should be able to get by with Villa, Pedro, and Iniesta up top as long as Villa is productive.
But it is far from inconceivable for Villa or Pedro or Iniesta to pick up a knock while Messi is out.
It is completely true that there is no way to “replace” Messi. But at this point in time they hardly have enough bodies to play up front with any meaningful depth at all.
If Bojan doesn’t step up and really turn into this year’s Pedro the club could struggle greatly. As it is so far this season too much of their offense has depended on Messi. That problem was even worse than last season.
Although there’s no way I would want this, in a strange way it could take the pressure off the likes of Bojan and Pedro if they are assured a few starts. Then it’s up to them if they can hack it. Probably better finding out now though, if we have to.
If it is a bad one I’m sure the team will adopt a “get it done for Leo” approach.
euler , if bojan steps up , or even if villa and pedro combine better without messi since they will be the focal points of attack for the near future , then this will all look like trying to stress the bad guess.
Messi would get an injury eventually and we must have been ready for such.
Having a small squad does not even at the slightest mean that the coach and the director responsible isnt anticipating injuries , and has not also planned whats gonna happen when they come beforehands.
Its not a matter of if the injuries come , its always a matter of when will they come.
if bojan steps up , or even if villa and pedro combine better without messi since they will be the focal points of attack for the near future , then this will all look like trying to stress the bad guess.
Consider the magnitude of the “ifs” you just posed.
“If Bojan steps up, …” Ok. That’s a huge if.
“If villa and pedro combinge better without messi…” It seems overly optimistic to think that the front line will be better without one of the greatest players in history but it’s theoretically possible. But theoretically possible doesn’t make it probably in any way.
Its not a matter of if the injuries come , its always a matter of when will they come.
I completely agree with this and have posted the same thought several times before.
But this statement completely goes against the notion of the small squad. The small squad is accepts risk from injury as a sufficient trade off to reap some benefit from everyone playing more and avoiding unhappy players.
If you feel that injuries are inevitable then the small squad makes less sense, not more.
We’ll see how lucky we are with Villa. For our sakes, I hope he can be really productive, but as history as shown, it (usually) takes time for a new signing to really gel within a system, especially ours.
Here’s to hoping that the players step up in the coming steps.
I meant coming *weeks* not steps.
I think that the Liga should take steps. This, to me, is a clear-cut case of intent to injure. He deliberately stomped on his foot/ankle. It’s appalling.
Does la Liga have a review board for violent conduct, like the English FA?
Guardiola: “Hand balls? Well, if you want to believe we win with the help of the referee, you can. If you’re happier that way…” #fcblive.
Oh Lawd! Look at the pic! *dies* x_x
Oh my God… I’m paralyzed. I feel more shocked right now than I did after the CL exit to Inter.
Now is the first time that I recognize how lucky we’ve been to see Messi play without any serious injuries for more than 2 years.
David Villa was aweful today, imo. He will have to regain his Valencia shape now that Messi will be gone for at least one month (that’s just my personal guess, not a fact).
Now the sell of Ibra might backfire. We could really have needed him now. Krkic will not be an appropiate option in attack 🙁
And to be honest, I don’t think that Villa has been any better compared to Ibra’s first weeks at Barca.
I will start praying for Messi now, all the Barca and Messi fans of the world should transmit their energy and best wishes to him now. Get well soon, Leo!
Way too many “now”s in that comment, sorry but I can’t think clearly yet.
what games do we have coming up in the next 2-3 weeks?
For me, the most shameful part of all of it is that Ujfalusi knew exactly what he was doing, and the potential consequences. I don’t know how he feels right now, but if he is anything approaching a professional, he should feel like absolute shit.
First report: Dislocated ligaments of the ankle (from Pep). Sprain?
I’m so sad. I think I’m going to go lie down… 🙁
Wonder what GoonerInBarca would say about this?
I would be more upset, but once upon a time, my man Robin van Persie got hurt on international duty at an early point in last season when he was scoring or setting up about 3/4 of the goals for Arsenal. They said he’d be out for a few weeks, then it turned out he’d be out for five months–he was out from about late October until May.
Arsenal had a LOT more injuries than that, for various times, but usually 2-4 weeks if I could put an average on all of them, and they were in all areas of the pitch.
They still finished in third place, an improvement from the last season.
Messi is huge to the team, and no one will completely replace him. But these things happen, and if the outlook is ONLY a month (and really I expect about six weeks), we should consider ourselves lucky. Hey, he’ll get a nice little rest and come back a pretty rusty, but fresh. And unlike van Persie, he’s not had a ton of injuries, he’s very young, and there is NO break, according to Pep. This means that not only will he come back 100%, but compared to a lot of professional players in the world, he’s relatively unlikely to get sucked into an endless cycle of re-injuries.
Visca el Barca!
agree with u euler.nobody can replace messi.but look @ our options pedro,villa.i m not going to count bojan and jeffren coz they r still inexperienced.
wt bout 4 2 3 1.
ini thiago pedro
included thiago by all the recommendations u have made here.does it work
first medical report messi: nothing is broken, ligaments of the right ankle dislocated
Pep’s tweets: Dislocated ligaments. Don’t know what that means, BUT better than broken…
Great game today, Expensive to say the least. Vital three points.
first medical report messi: nothing is broken, ligaments of the right ankle dislocated #fcblive
Must be at least torn, I’d think. If just a sprain 2-3 weeks. If torn more like 5 or 6.
I will cry if its 5-6.
i m thinking may be this is a boon in disguise.might what be needed 2 spur villa and bojan on.
may be i m way 2 optimistic
with all due respect arsenal is optimistic of winning something and barca is expected 2 win everything
I hear you. But just three years ago, Barca finished third place. Four (five?) years ago, both teams were together in the CL final. In 2000-2001, Arsenal came second in the Premier League and made it to the CL quarter-finals; Barca came in fourth in La Liga and was eliminated in the CL group stages.
Good things happen and bad things happen. Times change, expectations change; and over time, some things change, and other things stay the same. So what? Sport is sport, and let’s just be happy we’re so hot right now.
When Arsenal comes in third, I can still be happy because they play pretty ball (except when they played Barca…jeez!). When Barca comes in first, I can say I’m happy because they won, and because they play pretty ball.
Let’s not all get sucked into despair over a single injury, and a state of panic because we might not win. We’ve won a LOT over the last two years, and when that happens, it becomes difficult to expect any less. But if we don’t win, we’ll adjust our expectations, and continue to be happy most of the time, because Barca plays pretty ball.
Let’s just be happy, shall we?
A side point. I was always taught that if some one had torn ligaments you left their boot on to prevent excessive swelling until you could get them to some ice. Starting to feel I’ve been misinformed all my life . . . . .
From the club, via Twitter:
Messi pateix una distensió al lligament lateral intern del turmell dret. Es descarta lesió òssea. Demà se li faran més proves.
In short, pulled right ankle ligaments, will know more tomorrow.
Other folks are Tweeting that Messi isn’t that serious, probably 2-3 weeks.
No bone injury, thank the football gods!
Just look at this people. I mean really. Messi and Ujfalusi before The Tackle.
I need to lie down.
No way that was unintentional.
nxt six liga games
and i think probably 2 CL games.
Medical report (addition):trauma in the ankle area
via Pep’s twitter
after watching that pic it was evident that son a b…..ch was intentional in doing that
Official medical report: “Messi strained the internal lateral ligament of the right ankle. No bone injury. Test tomorrow” [@fcbarcelona_cat]
Strained is not as bad as torn, right?
But ligament damage can be really bad 🙁
Strained is not as bad as torn. For sure. I think that some of the swelling is cleat damage. That will resolve itself fairly quickly.
Thanks for that pic, Kari. It’s clear that there was intent to injure. Shameful.
after reading all bout this injury i think he will return in the copenhagen match on october 20th
Thought there was a lot of negativity in the liveblog today, but really Athletico is a very strong team and considering our last couple of games at their place, any win is a good result. Then again, it’s actually a bit refreshing we can win games where we don’t play well and the over team is not only good, but also very physical.
we played well,and we waste at least 3 clear cut goals in the 2nd half.
can u remind me wt atletico did in the whole game apart fr getting physcial
BTW, I follow everyone on twitter but no ones follows me 🙁
From Pep, via FCBLIVE:
Messi would be out for maximum 15 days. #fcblive [catalunya radio]
For me, the most shameful part of all of it is that Ujfalusi knew exactly what he was doing, and the potential consequences.
What amazing about how dumb this was is that Ujflausi is so dim that he doesn’t even understand how he put his own earning potential and the financial situation of his club in jeopardy.
La Liga is more dependent on one player than any other league in the world.
And Ujfalusi just intentionally injured that player and did so seriously.
This is going to jeopardize La Liga’s global television ratings. It’s overall revenue potential at a time when the Spanish economy is in the toilet.
How the league cannot step in to stop this nonsense Messi is facing – nonsense which is getting worse every season – is beyond comprehension.
The player is stupid ok. But for La Liga to not understand their own business model and assets is beyond belief. But then the league is run like a joke so I suppose this isn’t a surprise.
WE WON!!! 2-1!!
Could have been 7-1 but, 2-1!
We got 3 Points! AND!
a Messi’s foot bigger than a football.
No worried, tho it looks worrying, we will have to go thru this test of Messi-independencia.
Very Well Said Cliveee .. and it’s better to do early in the season .. This is a blessing in disguise
Yeah man! Stay positive! we have just beaten one of the best candidates as the league winner and brought them back down to earth as bunch of Pathetico players!
lets c how other boyz rise up in this occasion.with all adulation xavi,iniesta,busi,puyol,pique got(they deserve it,)messi is the single most important person in this barca team.its true widout xavi our football doesnt flow but without messi our opponets dont fear us.
now is the time 2 step up
sigh of relief
2-3 weeks out is a lot better than it could have been. And it is early in the season, so we have a chance to work out how to play without him when it isn’t life or death.
He is young, he’ll heal fast. We’re going to be OK.
Valdes, at the presser: (Pep on the case as usual)
“Messi? The referees should be aware they can’t allow certain actions. The referee allowed too much today, in general.” #fcblive
For those who didn’t see the tackle
Am getting happier by minute or at least less gloomier. If they say max 15 days, than i will give our boy to come in as sub next weekend or at max by CL match.
As for Ujfulusi, i hope some one seriously hurts him. Well, maybe not. Or maybe, well i do hope so. The challange was not just cynical but malicious. I have no hope of REF doing anything. Since when did they care about FCB.
I just hope that next time we meet Atletico, we let know our feelings to Ujfalusi.
in case anyone missed the match or replay, here is how Messi got his ball-sized ankle:
Thanks for posting this! I am constantly amazed by how quickly things like this are uploaded and posted on YouTube. Some people must just have no life. 😉
(As if I haven’t spent the last hour frantically refreshing this page!)
What a piece of shit. Seriously. Fuck that guy.
Hope it’s less than 4 weeks but that injury definitely looks serious. My get well soon balloons are on the way :'(
Messi would normally be out for 20-25 days (minimum 2-3 weeks, maximum 4-5 weeks) #fcblive [@martiperarnau]
Somehow, I the feeling that 15 days is an optimistic estimate. I could be wrong, but just looking at the ankle makes me feel it will be longer than 2 weeks. Also, even if he’s technically cleared to play within 15 days, I’d rather he sit out a couple more days if he’s not at 100%. This time, it was torn ligaments; it could be a lot worse next time.
I’d love to be proven wrong though.
this means war against ulfalusi.sometimes there is bad tackle and there is intention.barca fans ready for this b…….r…….d in camp nou
in an optimistic note this happened early in the season rather than @ the business end @ the season
It is very difficult to assess the extent of an injury like this before 2 to 3 days because the swelling around the ankle messes with the MRI. But, they should be able to tell if its torn completely which it seems its not, so about 4-6 weeks.
From Pep via Twitter:
messi left the stadium on crutches although he was able to lean on both feets #fcblive
hope Messi will recover soon. He is our most important player and we will need him – although with all our talent we should be able to cope for a month.
Anybody notice Smasch’ quick retribution on Atletico?
Yea lol. Dude was looking out for his homeboy. Much respect
4got 2 mention that.a quick retribution
I don’t like that! Someone else could get hurt, it could cost us a player on the field, and it’s cheap.
this injury overshadowed a good performance of the team,excellent performance of busi,pique and below par performance of villa
Although to be fair, against lesser keepers Villa would have scored. De Gea was a beast today.
Disagree. Villa was a one-man cockup today. I said it in the LiveBlog and I will say it again: Villa gets a lot more rope. Even with the Messi injury, this space would have been pulsating with what a waste of money Ibrahimovic was, blah, blah, blah.
Yap, that’s exactly my opinion. I would even say that so far Villa was worse than Ibra (comparing their first matches for us). But now, Villa and all the others will have to show up!
Just for clarification – any “strain” or “sprain” means that there has been tearing of ligaments and/ or tendons. The question is how much tearing there has been. That’s how the grades are placed on the injury – grade 2 or 3 etc.
It’s good that the initial reports are relatively positive. But until they do an MRI they aren’t going to know the full extent of the injury or how long he’s likely out.
I guess it just shocks me that a player would deliberately injure another player. That’s someone’s livelihood. If you’re a dimwitted thug that’s fine, but you still have to consider the reality of someone returning the favor one day. For me, it’s (or I thought it was) one of the tenets of the professional players’ code.
9/25 @ Bilbao
9/29 @ Rubin Kazan
Let’s hope Messi can be fully fit again to play against Mallorca.
Not a bad schedule. That’s a month of matches. We should be able to take Gijon, at Bilbao will be a dogfight even with Messi. Rubin’s in a down phase right now. Mallorca? Depends on which Mallorca shows up. Ditto for Valencia. Thankfully, three of those five are at home, and only one away match is in the Liga.
We will need a Villa who is really a goal machine instead of this lackluster one today. Really should have buried some more and get Messi out of the pitch for some rest. But to hell with Ujfa-lucy, if Messi were to get injured, he will get it anyway in any time. We just need the rest of the squad to play better to make up for the absence of Messi.
It really is the time Bojan need to perform. We have no choice but to play him, no choice.
by the by, any news from Jeffren, where the heck did he go? injured?
What happened to Messi today was unfortunate. But we, like the team must remain calm. We have a squad, and we can’t let trolls take satisfaction at seeing us weep for Messi. We’ll make it. In Pep We Trust.
For me it isn’t a question of weeping. It’s a question of a player transgressing the bounds of reasonable behavior with a deliberate attempt to injure another player. If we can’t win without Messi then we don’t deserve to win. But Ujfalusi’s behavior is shameful and cowardly. And he didn’t even care about the player that he injured, instead having a go at the referee about some other transgression, real or imagined.
To be honest the whole team played dirty and I blame the ref for letting it continue. It was ridiculous.
Yeah, what makes me really sad/pissed is that this is completely avoidable. Messi didn’t just tweak a hamstring or strain a calf muscle or anything aciddental like that–he was injured. Deliberately. A guy came in, not even going for the ball, and STOMPS on his ankle.
True. Also, the referee did let this game get out of hand early in the second half. At least he didn’t go about awarding Patetico penalties left and right. I get so sick of seeing teams resort to fouling the crap out of us in order to stop us. Have some class, Patetico, after all, Dr. House is your coach!
Stay Positive .. What Ufjalusi did is something that he’ll have to live with .. We On the other hand have to prove that we can win without Messi
exactly!!! keita/masche have to step up now
If Ujfalusi wants to play in that manner and feels justified in doing so then he should have absolutely no problem or qualms about Mascherano doing the exact same thing to Forlan or Aguerro.
If Mascherano happens to get frustrated by the next match against Atleti either because he’s unhappy with the result or with a refereeing decision Ujflausi should have no argument in principle against Mascherano or Puyol or whoever injuring Forlan just because they feel aggrieved.
Ujfalusi could have no way of knowing that his actions wouldn’t break Messi’s ankle. It’s only due related to some luck that he didn’t. If his own striker’s ankle were to be broken through retribution then he’d have to just live with it.
But in the end he knows Barca has isn’t going to sink to that level.
Ujfalusi went down to Barcelona’s dressing room to get to know about Messi’s health status and apologized for his bad tackle.
Well, a good gesture but hard to forgive the guy right now.
As some one said above, it is much easier to accept if player gets injured due to bad luck. But this guy deliberately stomped on messi’s ankle. It was not as if Messi was in full flight as well. So screw him. I hope we freaking give the sob a taste of his own medicine next time round.
I thought it was at least good to hear he’s sorry about it. Temporary moment of madness.
P.S. Jnice, if this blog community ever gets even half as juvenile and petty as the Real Madrid Offside blog, I am so leaving BFB forever. “That injury to Messi brought a smile to my face!”? Appalling.
The schedule of Barca over the next 2 months looks like
Rubin Kazan (a)
Real Madrid (h)
Bilbao is always hard even when Messi is there .. Kazan will park the bus and Sporting and Mallorca both got defeated by us last year without Messi .. Hope He gets back as soon as possible .. Not because of barcelona .. But because He’s a great player and we enjoy watching him
clearer image.What gets me is how it swelled instantly, that means it probably looks worse now.Tomas will get his some day, karma being a bitch and all that.
Ok, I just Can’t wait to say it again already, we need a better David Villa for the next few matches without Messi.
Not that he didn’t do well, but he lacked the finishing we desperately needed. It’s true that he is still not 100%, but we bought him with bunch of millions, he just has to repay us with goals, whether he is ready or not, he needs to deal with it. He did all he could and was denied or missed target. It is not acceptable because we played a pretty decent if not good game in our midfield to pass you the damn ball and send you one-on-one with keepers and all, and you still can’t give us another goal cushion. I was seriously disappointed. To be fair, I have to say the same thing for Messi. He should have finished bunch of chances as well. But Messi is Messi, he did more than scoring. Villa did something, but he didn’t score. We NEED him to score.
please don’t start, this is exactly the mentality we had with Henry and Ibra and it never helped.
Never talk about money and goals! its not like that
Having a small squad is not against the idea of being able το replace someone in case of injury.
You might be in trouble if αν injury plague comes along ,but one player injured is hardly that.
Having a small squad indicate that you may be short of options at some injury crisis, or having several key players off form.
Short doesnt equal nonexistant. most probably it means of a better quality than having several fringe players just adding up to the number registered with the first team and most notably highly motivated ones.
btw, what do you think about calling up either Nolito or Soriano as a back-up for our attack?
They seem to be doing quite a good job with Barca B, are already 23+ years of age and I feel they are more lethal in front of goal than Krkic, for instance.
no, Krkic will start ahead of the youths any day. Youths can’t move as good as a player who has been in the first team for so long. Bojan just needs to find his rhythm back. The boy has skills and fire power, but not in good form. He will definitely start on Wednesday. He will need to score to find his confidence back and hopefully that will be the beginning of his form rediscovery as well as a true growth as a full 9.
Pep has t be thinking something like this:
Maybe maxwell for Abidal to spark the offense with Messi out, but it seems that Maxwell plays best with messi on the field. Also I agree that it i time for Keita and Masc to step up big
Might as well do…
VV Puyol Abidal Maxwell
Villa Pique Pedro
really meant to type this instead:
Alves Puyol Abidal Maxwell
Villa Pique Pedro
I would really love to see this line-up, and I trust a lot in Piqué as a striker 🙂
But I don’t think we will see it, unless Pedro or Villa get injured before Jeffren is back to 100%.
I as well vote for Pique leading the line next game!
What if we had this striker? Sigh
Wow, that commentator was ridiculously happy for a league game against a mid-table side.
That said, stop…he’s gone and a lot of us are over missing him…he’s never coming back.
what if we had this striker? Sigh
The problem at the moment is that neither Villa nor Pedro nor Bojan are putting the goals away. However, I take heart from the number of chances we created today. In the last two games we’ve created a barrowload.
The defence seemed to take a panning during the liveblog but I reckon they did a great job. Was Forlan playing ? 68% possession and only three saves to make suggests a pretty competent performance. Much better from Alves as well. Puyol and Pique were immense although I still feel maybe Pique could have at least challenged on their goal.
Pique completely stopped playing that corner, so I reckon Valdes shouted to claim that ball but failed to.
In Other News .. Henrique and Caceres both Scored today !
Videos? Could cheer us up most definitely
Taking a break before the second viewing of the match. A Tweet featuring a Messi at the airport pic:
From the official site:
The first examinations by Barca’s medical team suggest that Leo Messi has suffered ligament damage to his right ankle, but there is no evidence of a broken bone. More tests will be carried out on Monday to assess the full extent of the injury.
The dramatic images of the world’s best player clearly in great pain being stretchered off after a vicious 92nd minute foul by Ujfalusi, who received a straight red, were quickly followed by initial medical explorations that showed ligament damage in the Argentinean’s right ankle, but no apparent break, as many fans watching the game must have feared.
Guardiola: “he’s in tears”
Pep Guardiola spoke of his star’s injury after the game: “he’ll be having more tests tomorrow, but in principle a break has been ruled out. He’s injured and the doctors will tell us how he is. Let’s hope the first diagnosis is correct and we can help get him fit again. He’s very said and in tears. These things happen in football”.
Guardiola was tight lipped about Ujfalusi’s foul and called on reporters to show responsibility: “the pictures of the incident speak for themselves I imagine. I’d ask you to show responsibility about these kinds of things. This isn’t something new, it’s been going on for a while – look, if there is proof and it looks suspicious…”.
Sad day for soccer. Hope he has a speedy recovery.
I often, quietly, question Pep’s decisions but he is a class act and I have nothing but respect for his professionalism.
To be selfishly honest, I rather us draw the match rather than losing Messi..The win today really didn’t feel like a win.
Alves was MoM for me today.
The guy is on drugs!
better pic of Messis’s ankle.
I haven’t seen the match yet, all i know is the result and that Messi is injured unfortunately.
Things like this happened. Unfortunately for Ujfalusi, Kxevin is right for saying that he has to live with it for the rest of his life. Its best if he probably doesn’t turn up at the Camp Nou anymore, it could get more ugly than what Figo received.
Messi’s injury seems to strike worry and uncertainty with everyone, which is normal because THAT IS HOW GOOD MESSI IS.
no team can ever live the same way without Messi. because really, could we ever have bought a player just as good?
Further more, I think that the team are more than capable to keep on marching. I believe Pep would say the same thing. Right now our priorities are to build up our team for another successful season. We are not a team that is obsessively compulsive to how many goals messi gets or how many games we win in a row. Our team is built under the very best of players who train hard and work hard.
There is no such thing as a small squad. There are always players who can fill in the squad. that is what they are there for.
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