WORLD CUP! (day 2)

This is your Day 2 comments post. We’ve got some sweet games on tap. South Korea – Greece, Argentina – Nigeria, and USA! USA! USA! vs England. May the wonderful football rain down on us today!

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Isaiah is a co-founder and lead writer for Barcelona Football Blog. He currently lives in the greater New York City area with his wife and daughter.

146 Comments

  1. Pyro
    June 12, 2010

    ARGENTINA!!!! I hope messi scores a hattrick. those are extremely common for him nowadays

  2. June 12, 2010

    I’m wearing an Argentina jersey, but will be rooting for Nigeria. I love the World Cup because of this.

  3. June 12, 2010

    A GOAL! 7th minute! This game is better than France-Uruguay already! Surprise!

  4. June 12, 2010

    South Korea fully deserve this 2-0 lead they have. Greece has been horrendous for almost the entire match. Funny, in a way, that the goals came from a set piece and a midfield mistake while most of the game has been Korea bombing through the middle with beautiful moves.

  5. sm
    June 12, 2010

    Bartra signs until 2012.
    *http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/catala/noticies/futbol_base/temporada09-10/06/11/n100611111539.html

  6. Eklavya
    June 12, 2010

    Is there going to be a LiveBlog for the Argentina match?

  7. poipoi
    June 12, 2010

    the games have been so boring so far 🙁 go argentina!

  8. Euler
    June 12, 2010

    Messi is the best player in the world. He’s being discussed as having a chance to be perhaps the greatest ever – if he dominates a world cup. That’s a requirement.

    Despite his status, it’s remarkable how relatively little attention and focus is being paid to him.

    And much of that has to do with Maradona’s insanity. He’s made himself into a lightning rod and such a figure for attention that the players – even Messi – have become something of a secondary story.

    That maybe a very fortunate set of circumstances for Messi and the team. The pressure and attention on Messi should have been unbearable were it not for the circus Maradona.

  9. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    VAAAAAAAAAAAMOS MESSSSSSSSSI!

    Ugh, Heinze is starting (why? WHY?)… Veron predictably starts as playmaker but can he last the 90?

    Match is about to start! (Where’s Hector?! 😀 )

  10. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    WTF? WHY IS JONAS GUTIERREZ PLAYING RIGHT BACK? He’s a winger, right? Right?!

  11. Corrine
    June 12, 2010

    ar-gen-tina!
    ar-gen-tina!

    ar-gen-tina!
    ar-gen-tina!

    ar-gen-tina!
    ar-gen-tina!

  12. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    3 min in and Messi’s looking good (and working hard pressuring the defense).

    HIGUAIN MISSES FROM POINT BLANK RANGE! MESSI AWESOME!

  13. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL HEINZEE ! (W.T.F?!) Nice one too. Diving header

  14. Euler
    June 12, 2010

    Argentina are playing a very different way then they have for much of the run up to the cup.

    Much more attacking with Guttierrez at RB rather than Otamendi while also playing Tevez with Messi and Higuin.

    It’ll be interesting to see if Guitierrez is allowed to move forward and where Tevez will occupy space.

    • Kari
      June 12, 2010

      Yeah, I was just thinking that. Still, Gutierrez at right back is interesting. He’s good going forward but he gets exposed defensively too easily for my liking. At times, he looks a little lost IMO.

  15. barca96
    June 12, 2010

    my friend finally got his electical power on as his government cut the electricity supply in order to save for the argerntina match lol. apparently they are argentina and brazil mad in bangladesh lol.

    messi is on fire.
    who said he was too tired???
    however i do feel that messi will be like ronnie in 2006

    • moony
      June 12, 2010

      spot on about the brazil-argentina part … i am from bangladesh and there people is just crazy about brazil or argentina … you can see flags all over the country for this month …

      these are some common sites of the country for this month:

      • moony
        June 12, 2010

        sorry the photos did not come the first time:

        *http://www.flickr.com/photos/36096782@N06/4694355454/

        *http://www.flickr.com/photos/36096782@N06/4694355488/

  16. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    Holy crap! Argentina are looking good! Nigeria could also be nervous and that’s why they look better..

    …and Nigeria dangerous on the counter attack almost score! Samuel manages to put it out for a corner! Veron clears though…

  17. Euler
    June 12, 2010

    Maradona said over and over that his team doesn’t need fullbacks. Most of the run up he played 4 CM’s on the back line. He also siad he didn’t want defenders to be involved with the attack. He even went so far as saying why would defenders ever need to cross the midline. That’s part of why they were only playing one holding mid.

    And in the first game of the cup Maradona plays Guittierez on the right and so far he’s been making runs up the flank. It’ll be interesting to see if that continues, especially up 1-0.

    It’s really hard to know how Argentina is going to line up and play in this cup.

  18. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    Crap! Wonderful ball from Veron almost finds Messi, but Nigeria’s goalkeeper intercepts at the last min.

  19. Euler
    June 12, 2010

    Nigeria not pressing at all past the midfield line. They are giving the deeper mids on Argentina a lot of time on the ball. This is going to really help Veron who plays very slowly in build up and has limited pace now.

  20. Euler
    June 12, 2010

    If Milito got the two chances to score Higuain has would he have missed either?

    • June 12, 2010

      Would YOU have? I feel that anyone would have. Including Higuain. He has the yips in big games, it seems like…

    • Kari
      June 12, 2010

      I wonder as well, but it’s easy to say that in retrospect. If it were Milito that missed those two chances, we’d be wondering the reverse. He tends to miss sitters as well, Milito

      Luckily Maradona has the luxury of having both though…

  21. Euler
    June 12, 2010

    With Messi, Higuain, and Tevez all tending to cluster and make runs into the center and DiMaria playing curiously deep and remaining uninvolved Argentina is struggling for width and space.

    Also, Veron is passing well but he tends to play deep and that’s leaving a break between the midfield and the attacking players. Tevez and Messi are dropping back in turn but I wonder if Palermo could help bridge that gap.

  22. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    I feel Argentina’s been very, very good going forward (Yaaay, Messi!) but I though defensively, they got panicked a bit, especially on the counter attacks. However little Nigeria attacked, it caused problems for sure.

    I thought Nigeria looked a little nervous and that the early goal really put them off their game… Nigeria’s goalkeeper impressed me as well.

    Interesting how Nigeria and Argentina will lineup in the second half.

  23. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    He he he!

    The David Villa-Messi-Zidane Adidas ad is playing on my TV!

  24. Euler
    June 12, 2010

    In a game like this Cambiasso would have been a particularly valuable holding midfielder.

  25. Eklavya
    June 12, 2010

    OOOOO Messi oooh…thats sums up messi in argentina. well played by tevez tho

  26. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    NIGERIA GOALKEEPER IS AMAZING!

    C’MON MESSI!

    • Kari
      June 12, 2010

      Messi can’t SCORE with Argentina is what you meant, right?

      He’s had a really good game IMO

  27. Euler
    June 12, 2010

    With Veron out and Rodgriguez in Argentina functionally don’t have a playmaking midfielder.

    That’s going to have to come from Messi or Tevez now.

    Higuain finally out. He had a poor match.

    How could Messi miss that?

  28. Eklavya
    June 12, 2010

    argentina look like they dont want to play

  29. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    Odenwingie for Nigeria has been impressive since he came on; he’s had a good impact for them.

    • June 12, 2010

      I thought he was an absolute horror show, actually. Totally different take than you.

      • Kari
        June 12, 2010

        Well, his control wasn’t the best, and decision making wasn’t all that good, but at least he got himself into dangerous positions and threatened the Argentina goal.

        I thought the Nigerian attack was subdued until he came on.

  30. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    Burdiasso for Di Maria (who was poor IMO).

    Looks like Maradona is going for the 1-0. Nervy moments for Argentina; Nigeria are pressuring and are really trying to finish the match strongly.

  31. Euler
    June 12, 2010

    Argentina are playing with fire in this match. To not have scored that second goal is asking for trouble.

    Very strange match. There is something missing in their attack. Width was clearly one of them. But I think they need a more coherent creative passing player who plays in a more advanced position.

    That and for their number 9 to actually finish great opportunities.

    • Kari
      June 12, 2010

      The one good pass from Veron led to the goal.

      From then on he was quite poor IMO. Argentina suffered as a result.

  32. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH1 MESSI!

    He’s doing everything right, except for his finishing and an inspired performance from the Nigerian goalkeeper!

  33. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    ARGENTINA DESERVEDLY GET THE WIN!

    1-0 but should have been more. Messi played as well as someone can without scoring a goal. Nice!

  34. Eklavya
    June 12, 2010

    argentinas players look like they won the WC. Messi doesnt look too happy…

  35. barca96
    June 12, 2010

    yeah!!!!
    korea and argentina to top the group!

  36. Jnice
    June 12, 2010

    Messi didn’t suck, Eklavya. He should have scored a couple, but other than that, he was by far Argentina’s best player. His movement, passing… everything.

    • Euler
      June 12, 2010

      Agreed. Messi was clearly Argentina’s best player today. DiMaria looked lost and Higuain just played poorly in his role. Messi was very good but just didn’t score.

  37. Euler
    June 12, 2010

    Argentina haven’t finished well. But on the whole they played a disciplined, well organized match.

    They looked well drilled, fairly cohesive and coordinated.

    They did look like a team that was still trying to figure out how to play together. But you can see the potential there if they can figure out the dynamics between them.

    In particular, I think they are going to need to figure out how to play with Tevez acting in more of a play making role.

    Maradona’s tactics today were innovative and surprising given how Argentina have played in the run up and how Maradona has said he wants to play. Defensively they played very differently. That may have been why they were vulnerable to the counter some but the defenders also pushed up more than expected.

    With all of the concerns about Maradona and his craziness – none of that translated into the play on the field.

    Just compare how Argentina played vs. how France played under DomDom yesterday.

    Should have been more than 1-0 but it was a very interesting match from Argentina.

    Hopefully Messi next match will finish the way he usually does. He played very well but just couldn’t find the back of the net. It happens. Enyeama the Nigerian keeper was very good.

    Messi and Milito had some nice 1-2’s.

    • June 12, 2010

      Euler, Maradona didnt do lot of bad things today, but lets not get carried…The team still has issues Nigeria didnt expose. Other teams will. But as I mentioned below, Maradona exceeded my drastic expectations in this single game.

      • Euler
        June 12, 2010

        Ramzi- I agree with you and was largely making my comments in terms of the context running up to the Cup. It’s been said widely that Argentina would turn into a chaotic disaster because of Maradona – who really is crazy.

        Argentina were far from perfect. They clearly have work to do. As I mentioned – width, creativity in the advanced midfield, and defense on the counter were all issues.

        But it’s not unusual for squads to have those kinds of problems early in the world cup. This is particularly true of a team like Argentina where the players really do come from many different club teams.

        They didn’t look chaotic or disorganized. They generally looked organized. They seemed to be searching and trying to figure out how to play together. That was my primary point.

  38. Corrine
    June 12, 2010

    messi had one of the best games for argentina i’ve seen in a long time but he’ll be considered a flop unless he scores :S

    • cliveee
      June 12, 2010

      he has the world to take on, everyone demands too much from him… poor man.

  39. jordi™
    June 12, 2010

    Veron tried hard but hes too old for this level, from the start atleast.I cant help but wonder how fluid argentina would be with banega pulling strings.Anyway atleast theres pastore who i beleieve will shine when he gets his chance.Some guy called Messi had a decent game 8)

    • Euler
      June 12, 2010

      Veron passes well but doesn’t offer much past that. He lacks pace and plays relatively deeply. If they don’t want to play Pastore they’ll need Tevez to adapt and excel as an advanced creative player.

  40. ajani
    June 12, 2010

    I love Messi, but Argentina not so much…I was really hoping for a Nigeria comeback there for at least a draw. South Korea & Nigeria for me, but I’m realistic enough to know that Argentina will most likely go through instead of one of those 🙂

  41. barca96
    June 12, 2010

    whaat???
    the gk played a great game.if not messi would have at least have 2 goals.
    and the other clear cut chance, it was a really tight angle.
    perhaps he shouldve chipped it like he did on casillas.
    he was the best player for argentina definitely!

  42. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    Vincent Eneyeama (Nigerian ‘keeper) got MOTM and I agree. Best player for Nigeria by far. Kept the score down and Nigeria in the game.

    Messi MOTM for Argentina no questions asked. Awesome, really awesome. Did everything but score. Once he scores his first goal, expect the flood gates to open, because this is obviously something psychological.

    Di Maria was very poor as wss Higuain.

    Tevez worked like an absolute dog. Whoa!

  43. Eklavya
    June 12, 2010

    Yeah, when I say “he sucks” I mean he can’t score. Isn’t that obvious? 😛

    I only watched the 2nd half so I’m not going to evaluate anyone… although Messi should have scored with so much space.

  44. June 12, 2010

    I will give some credit to Maradona. In my world cup preview I was critical regarding his selection (Especial the fullbacks structure and offense duet), he fixed that in this game moving Jonas back and using Tevez to avoid Messi being isolated.

    But still, he has issues especially using not starting Milito. His subs were all right, but a bit too late. Better than I expected, but he still need to win me over. I dont believe he has the quality when things get tight.

    • Euler
      June 12, 2010

      Agreed on Milito. He really should be in the starting XI

  45. vicsoc8
    June 12, 2010

    Messi played great but really left his shooting boots at home.

    Higuain was terrible. Di Maria was so anonymous I thought he had been brought in as a sub at the start of the second half.

    Mascherano had a good game, as someone who isn’t a fan of his, I was impressed.

    Argentina’s big problem is that they don’t have any midfielders. When they took Veron off they only had one true midfielder, and they suffered for that reason.

  46. Kxevin
    June 12, 2010

    Nigeria was festering crap. For Argentina to beat a side that dire 1-0 should be worrying some people. Had Nigeria had any midfield creativity or real attacking flair, that match was winnable. Based on what I saw today, S. Korea could very well win that group.

    Higuain’s finishes were pretty amazing in their ineptitude. Dude’s gotta make those. Isaiah’s comment about him getting the yips in big matches is spot on. Lordy.

    Was going to go watch USA/England at a friend’s place, but there’s just something about your own sofa and a 58-inch plasma that puts the kibosh on any communal plans. That, and it’s monsoon season in Chicago. Driving in the rain around my fellow man just sucks, what with my turbo Subaru and heavy right foot, and their tendency to say “Ohmygoditrainingdrive20mph!” 😀

    • Jose
      June 12, 2010

      Argentina never looked like they got it going. I still want to see how Nigeria does versus South Korea.

    • Vj
      June 12, 2010

      Ohmygoditrainingdrive20mph

      Based on the liveblog yesterday, seems like our kind of people..

      • Eklavya
        June 12, 2010

        Hahahaha I had the same thought! OMGOMG!

  47. flyzowee
    June 12, 2010

    Messi looked kinda jaded, uninterested at times, didnt have the usual work rate that he does for us but like everyone said he had a great game

  48. ooga aga
    June 12, 2010

    on univision they call tevez “el apache.” wow.

    pipita, pulga, apache. and the equipo argentino son unos pelusos. el gringo peluso (heinze), la pulga pelusa…

    yesterday whenever the univision commentator said “shabalala” he sang it sing-songy in a loud voice.

    • lovelymofo
      June 12, 2010

      That’s why I decided to watch the matches this morning on ESPN instead of on Univision. That Tshabalala thing irritated the hell out of me.

  49. Jose
    June 12, 2010

    I like what I’ve seen so far.

    Uruguay kept a clean sheet against France, and even then had the best opportunities in the match. Mexico and Argentina need that cold final touch to start really creating havoc.

    Overall, I get the sense that they’re just sharpening the knives. First game jitters are out, second round of Groups A and B should have these teams in full gear.

  50. GM
    June 12, 2010

    Based on the first 4 games, it seems to me like this will be a WC dominated by counter attacks. The ball is so terrible and bounces so much that I don’t see how any midfield can keep it safely in possession for a long time (even Spain)

    Which does not bode well for Argentina because the defense still looked very suspicious, especially on the counter, and it was only Nigeria’s lack of quality that prevented them for scoring.

    Of course, Argentina had even more chances to score on the counter, but the question how well they’re going to do against quality opposition remains.

  51. stephen
    June 12, 2010

    Loved the Argentina win, could’ve had more goals, Higuain and messi both were unfortunate, except that Higuain was just missing, at least Messi was creating chances for others as well.
    Happy for Korea! I knew they’d start well against Greece. and ENGLANNDDDD hope they beat them ‘yanks’

    • Vj
      June 12, 2010

      I hoping that Dempsey and co. kick some English ass!

      • Vj
        June 12, 2010

        I making typos also.. I sorry..

        *I’m..

        Besides, anyone notice how uncomfortable Argentina were with the ball, with Messi and co. having to dig them from underneath their feet as it were.. Was it because of the Jabulani?

        • Stephen
          June 12, 2010

          At first I thought they looked rather slow, but this is a much better Argentina than that in the qualifying. And I think the ball is blamed, but they’ll adjust, or shouldve adjusted by now.

  52. james89
    June 12, 2010

    anyone have a good streaming link for england vs US?

    • stephen
      June 12, 2010

      Tried Espn3.com ? not sure it works for everybody though.

  53. lovelymofo
    June 12, 2010

    I’m glad Messi had a good match, bummed he didn’t score. Argentina is gonna have to improve if they want to make it into the quarter-finals and beyond. Wasn’t surprised that Higuain couldn’t finish those chances.

    Also, I set my alarm this morning to watch Argentina (and get ready for work) and I was so out of it that it took me like 10 minutes to figure out that the ESPN channel I was watching the match on had Arabic-language commentary. I was like, WAIT, what? I have no idea which ESPN channel it was, but it had commentary available in Arabic, German, Japanese, Korean, Portugese, and even a mode to listen to it with no commentary. Great options, too bad I only know a few words in Korean and Portugese.

    • Kari
      June 12, 2010

      I saw on the channel that’s showing the WC here in Canada that had Punjabi commentary. There’s also a channel that had Spanish (Mexico) and Italian commentary. Pretty cool if you ask me.

      Now, off to watch EEUU-Inglaterra!

      • Eklavya
        June 12, 2010

        In Punjabi? Seriously hahaha I HAVE to listen to that one! 😀

    • Kari
      June 12, 2010

      I don’t know if it works outside Canada but cbc.sports live streams the games. Here’s the link anyway

      *http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/fifaworldcup/live/match5.html

      You can find a link here.

      *http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=77127&part=sports

      Just take your pick, there’s a whole bunch 🙂

  54. Sid
    June 12, 2010

    Argentina need to play Messi closer to the goal (whether on the center or the flanks). They need someone else to do the creative playmaking, linking, throwing in the though balls. Messi’s dribbling though might look spectacular when its from the half line, but would be more effective when in the final third.

  55. y2k156
    June 12, 2010

    For me, it was a close but deserved in. I thought Messi played in the right role for him and Maradona is doing all he can to provide Messi with platform. I have seen the match and highlights a few times now, so can firmly say that two of the saves which GK pulled of Messi was spectacular. Higuain could have done better but he did shoot at goal. So i think he should be given more chances. It does not makes sense to change the front man on whims.

    Overall Argentina do have problems in defence and espcially role of Jonas Gutiarrez. Maybe he will improve but against top teams, its going to be intersting. I shall not write off Argentina lightly when France and Italy contested last WC final without being the best teams. Up front, am sure that Messi will score soon enough. He was magnificant.

    Argentina, as a whole, seem a team coming together and having such a match first up is much more helpful instead of a problem. If argies had won with 3 or 4 goals, they would have been complacant but now they will be motivated. I think that South Korea will give them a tough match and will even the match but overall, i think Argies are in good place. As a supporter, this makes me happy.

  56. vicsoc8
    June 12, 2010

    vicsoc8 prediction for the US – England game:

    Milner to shine.

  57. lovelymofo
    June 12, 2010

    ||http://futbol.univision.com/fifacopamundial/partidos-en-vivo

    Pretty nice stream. I’m muting the sound to hear British commentary.

  58. Jnice
    June 12, 2010

    No Edu again? Clark isn’t close to being as good as Mo. Good luck with that USA.

  59. lovelymofo
    June 12, 2010

    Goal already! Nice from Captain Fantastic. Epic defensive lapse by the US.

  60. Corrine
    June 12, 2010

    STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVEEEEEEEEEN GERRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDD

    • lovelymofo
      June 12, 2010

      Sadly, he has no Spaniard to celebrate with.

    • vicsoc8
      June 12, 2010

      As a States fan, I’ll take. English fans have to be drowning their sorrows right now.

  61. Euler
    June 12, 2010

    Green’s mistake was horrendous but England should have converted at least one other score. The U.S. backline was shaky even after that first goal. They settled down, but weren’t solid.

    And England should be able to retain the ball better than they are against a U.S. team that isn’t that great on the ball or that crisp in passing.

    Where was Lampard that first half? Also, Rooney was uninvolved.

  62. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    Doesn’t Onyewu play for AC Milan? He’s been a rock for the States. Candidate for MOTM me thinks.

    Now Peter Crouch is on for Heskey.

    10 min left, let’s see if there will be a winner…

    • lovelymofo
      June 12, 2010

      I was kind of bored towards the end of the match. I had no idea British goalies were soooo bad. That was straight out comical.

      Also, no more TIES. Please. Or at least higher scoring ties, porfavor.

      • Kari
        June 12, 2010

        Agree. I wanna see a thrashing! Aww, that means I got to wait until Spain’s match on Wednesday 😛

  63. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    Nope, it ends in a score draw.

    US 1-1 England

    Goals: Dempsey (or rather Green o.g 😛 ) ; Gerrard.

    England dominated, but the US held their own, especially the impressive Onyewu, and had their chances to win the match.

    All in all, entertaining match. I wasn’t going for anyone, so I guess this is the “best” result.

  64. vicsoc8
    June 12, 2010

    USA fan here:

    Howard was a rock. Couldn’t do anything about the goal England scored.
    Cherundolo at right back was excellent as well
    Altidore put in a good shift, look out for him in the other group stage games.

    Rooney was anonymous, couldn’t believe it
    Was Lampard on the field?
    Gerrard had spurts where he played well, but also disappeared at times
    Green MOTM for USA

    • Kari
      June 12, 2010

      I thought Onyewu looked good for the US, but yeah Howard was amazing, espcially given the injury he got when he clashed with Heskey.

      I didn’t see Lampard at all, Wow!

      Agreed on Rooney. Apart from the later stages of the game, he was really involved.

      Gerrard played really well for the first 20 or so min and then tapered off.

      Green = LMAO

      Milner = Fail*

      *Was he subbed because of the yellow he picked up or was he injured. If it’s the previous and not the latter, that’s hilarious. Poor guy; it was his WC debut too…

  65. y2k156
    June 12, 2010

    England are distinctly average side. Solid but unspectacular.

  66. Euler
    June 12, 2010

    A great deal of attention has focused on whether Argentina would figure out how to utilize Messi to it’s best advantage.

    But England has struggled greatly to bring the best out of Rooney as well. On some level it almost feels like the other players on the English side just don’t know how to best play with a multi-dimensional player like Rooney.

    The absence of a focal point for creativity for England in terms of passing is a significant weakness.

    Gerrard played very well, but he played in a deeper more defensive role with Lampard moving up more. And Lampard’s strength is not creating for other players or providing service.

    • inNYC
      June 13, 2010

      Can someone tell me exactly what Lampard’s strength is? It’s not his shooting, either.

  67. Kari
    June 12, 2010

    So does this mean Korea is currently the best team so far in the WC?

    Didn’t see that coming. Then again I’m completely ignorant in regards to Asian football, so what do I know?

    • Jose
      June 12, 2010

      Nah, just that one that happened to be playing the most hapless opponent.

  68. DontPanic
    June 12, 2010

    Sorry for off-topic guys, but Thiago extended his contract.
    *http://www.fcbarcelona.cat/web/castellano/noticies/futbol_base/temporada09-10/06/12/n100612111560.html

    • bashir
      June 12, 2010

      Good news that he signed. but i dont like the 1 year
      deal and 2 years incase he makes A team squad perminent

      means we either promote him och he’s gone in januari

      we just bought pep time to check him one last pre season

  69. Jim
    June 12, 2010

    Briliant result for me. England flop to miserable draw, Rooney, Lampard invisible and a howler from their goalie to end all ( well most) of their jokes about Scottish goalies. A good night 🙂

    Only downside is they’ll still go through from what must be the easiest group since they were last in a WC group.

    Also, anyone who doesn’t think Messi has been head and shoulders above every other player we’ve seen so far needs a bigger tele in my opinion.

  70. Kxevin
    June 12, 2010

    Don’t sweep S. Korea away so easily. They are fast, with and without the ball at their feet, and keep their shape at the back.

    That keeper mistake was a howler. Unreal. And Onyewu wasn’t as good as some are giving him credit for. He was on walkabout on the first England goal, and also culpable for the other great chance that they had. He got better after that because they started playing long ball through the air, which plays to his strengths.

    The tournament has only just begun, but I’m having a hard time seeing a favorite right now. Of course, we haven’t seen the rest of the heavy hitters yet, which will be interesting to watch.

    Messi was brilliant, by the by. But we’re used to it. Imagine how it must be for people to be seeing him for the first time in a full match, rather than on highlight reels.

    • cliveee
      June 12, 2010

      S Korea can go very far in this world cup. they are a better TEAM than many european sides, that means they play collectively better. and they all run their asses off in every single match like there is no tomorrow.

    • Phil
      June 12, 2010

      Gooch had moved up to close down space on Rooney as Rooney tried to receive the pass. He isn’t able to control the pass and semi deflects it and Gooch stays watching the lane back to Rooney and stands ready to cover him cause lets face it…if you have Rooney at the top of the box you’re not going to just let him stand there.

      It was Clark who was watching Gerrard’s run. Clark drifts over to play the lane, but doesn’t actually get forward of him and is a few steps behind as he is somewhat ball watching. When the pass comes in its too late, he tries to get goal side but is just too far behind. Bocanegra actually is just 1 step behind Clark and he had to come from much further. I find it hard to pin much blame on Gooch for that one.

  71. ooga aga
    June 12, 2010

    dont forget, sunday (tomorrow) 11 am pacific/2 pm eastern, barca atletic v sant andreu

    • Jnice
      June 12, 2010

      Will be watching the Ghana game then, but they will be in my heart lol.

  72. Kxevin
    June 12, 2010

    GolTV is rebroadcasting the Sept. 09 match at home v Atletico, when the three men that so many loved to hate were in the lineup, and playing brilliantly: Henry, Txigrinski and Ibrahimovic. This was before they were declared old and useless/waste of money/should be sold. Ah, those were such innocent times.

    😀

    Oh, and Ray Keown, part-time coach and scout for Arsenal, says that HeWhoShallNotBeNamed is outta there this summer, and that all the stuff we’re seeing/reading is just part of the long, drawn-out negotiating process.

    • Jnice
      June 12, 2010

      I typed Ray Keown in google with few results, then I realized you meant Martin Keown. 😀 Regardless of what he says, I’m still doubtful the deal will happen.

      Looks like Rosell is in poll position to win the elections…such shame. Sid Lowe and Pep(of the elections site) both had tweets stating that like with Perez last season, the press is deciding the elctions.

      GHANA FOR THE WIN tomorrow!!! and hopefully Barça Atletic.

      • Jnice
        June 12, 2010

        I didn’t know Raymond was Martin’s middle name.

        • Kxevin
          June 12, 2010

          Actually I was giggling at a Ray Ray-ism as I typed Keown’s name. Which explains that.

          • Jnice
            June 12, 2010

            It’s funny how that worked out though, because I wiki’d him and it turns out his middle name is Raymond. 😀

          • ooga aga
            June 13, 2010

            that guy, martin keown — not a handsome man.

  73. Phil
    June 12, 2010

    Anyone who says that Messi can’t replicate for Argentina what he does for Barca just needs to see this game. What he did in this game is just the same if not more than he does in any Barca game that he doesn’t score in. Yeah, there arn’t a lot of those games, but they exist. He was creative and linked up well. He was, at times, tenacious at winning back the ball and playing defense. He was able to get good looks at goal and forced the keeper to make some very good saves. His finishing was off but there was a spell this year where that was true at the club level too. Remember when we were in disbelief for weeks straight at how he just couldn’t buy a goal? Yeah, it happens.

    There is still a lot of football to be played but looks to me like he is on a path to vindication.

  74. stowe
    June 13, 2010

    nigerian goalie was amazing, messi usually scores on those kind of shots. Onyewu was spotty. definitely responsible for the chance england had when lennon or the right back (can’t remember his name or which person it was) shot straight into howard’s chest (was he wearing velcro, wow!) Korea was fast! argentina defense was as shaky as their has was long.
    and why does the USA team never play leading or through balls? can’t wait to watch xavi and co. do their thing
    higuan choked

    • Kxevin
      June 13, 2010

      I was wondering that same thing about the U.S., stowe. I think it’s because the midfield creativity is about nil. You have guys like Altidore, but can’t take advantage of them because they can’t control and pass. It’s control, regain control, turn around, the moment is lost.

    • Phil
      June 13, 2010

      The only person with any passing creativity on the field is Donovan and to describe him as such would be a big stretch. Our off ball movement isn’t very good either as you dont see a lot of attempts to run behind the defense, but then again why should you? Nobody is going to make that pass. They mainly look for a ball over the top.

  75. barca96
    June 13, 2010

    now let’s wait till the big boys( spain, brazil & holland) play and see who looks in form.

    • barca96
      June 13, 2010

      my god…
      i envy you guys in the states.
      you guys have so many choices!!!
      and i just learned that in the US, you guys have something called the amber alert. that is so amazing!

      btw, i thought isaiah and kxevin were socis..
      how come both of them are here and not doing the good thing by voting?
      kxevin, i presume you are driving an impreza? latest one or ver8?
      do you get called a ricer a lot? lol

      • barca96
        June 13, 2010

        btw i meant about the multiple language choices on espn.

      • Kxevin
        June 13, 2010

        That was the plan, barca96, right up unti real life decided to gnaw on my bum and make it impossible for me to get away, thanks to this vexing thing called having to earn a living. Thankfully, my plane tix were refundable.

        Legacy GT wagon, sir. The turbo Subaru for grownups. From 2005.

  76. Jim
    June 13, 2010

    Sky Sports News has just said that Iniesta is doubtful for the opening match. That starts to get worrying as he was only taken off as a precaution. Sounds like there’s something rumbling on there.

    Leave him out of the group stages if there’s a doubt, I’d say. It’s not like they’re going to struggle to win it.

  77. poipoi
    June 13, 2010

    what’s up with that poor boy little sad face of messi when the game was over and all the rest of the argies literally out of their minds celebrating a 1-0 vs a weak nigeria?? maradona evwen came to cheer him up, hugged him up from the ground and all… I didn’t like it at all, even I’m not argentinian I’m messian I looove messi. He should be (or at least show himself) happy for the team win and the 3 points. Besides he played really well the only thing is that he didn’t score life is hard.

    • Kxevin
      June 13, 2010

      Messi probably looked sad because he understood how vulnerable they looked, against a pretty poor side. If that guy doesn’t send that shot wide, they draw that match, a match they should have won in a laugher. Messi seems much more a realist/pragmatist than many others.

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