Barça – Valencia Match Comment Thread

Good morning culés, and a fine one it is today. Just a match comment thread, with two bits of news I need to share with you. The first of which is:

R.I.P. Luis Aragonés (1938-2014)

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The former Barcelona coach died at the age of 75 after a battle with illness. He led us to victory in the Copa del Rey tournament of 1988 and his record at the club stands at 23 wins, 13 draws and 14 defeats. Although perhaps better known for kick-starting La Roja’s world domination with their European Cup title of 2008, he has also famously claimed that José Antonio Reyes was a better footballer than Thierry Henry. Anyway, I am not one to mourn people’s deaths, so instead I would ask you to spare a moment to celebrate his life.

Tell us something we don’t know

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Ex-referee Eduardo Iturralde González revealed on national television in an absolute shocker that most of the referees are, in fact, merengues. Of course that, according to Mr. Gonzalez, does not mean that when they referee a M*drid game that they are not professionals. To which I agree. They are professionals that support M*drid. And what about when they call our matches? Altogether a shameful yet not at all surprising matter, which has cost us and will cost us, in the rolling eyes of this humble blogger, past and future league titles.

Last but not least

The game against Valencia is about to kick off. The last time we met? 0-3 in the Mestalla. Our line-up? Valdes – Alves – Mascherano – Piqué – Jordi Alba – Xavi – Busquets – Cesc – Alexis – Messi – Pedro. Sitting on the bench? Pinto, Bartra, Adriano, Song, Iniesta, Sergi Roberto and Tello. Watching from the stands? Around 80,000 bloodthirsty relaxed, opera-loving and weekend plans-discussing fans will be joined by Puyol, Montoya and Afellay. Culers not starting for Barcelona? No, not ex-blaugrana Seydou Keita, unfortunately, but we will see Oriol Romeu in action at the Camp Nou for the first time in a Liga game. Here’s hoping for a resounding victory. 

Visca el Barça!

 

 

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  1. kosby
    February 1, 2014

    so Alexis scored a beauty and headed one straight to the keeper..good game so far.

    Also seems like Messi really really wants to score again 🙂

  2. emiljorgensen
    February 1, 2014

    “Valencia defenders backing up so far, it’s a wonder how they are not in the stands” is the commentators analysis so far. The team is looking pretty good today!

    • kosby
      February 1, 2014

      Busquets has more shots on goal in this match than several previous matches..and by that I mean 1 shot on goal 😛

  3. kosby
    February 1, 2014

    good goal by valencia, it was essentially 3 against 5 🙁

    • selfie barça
      February 1, 2014

      Yup. Miss enough chances and the goal will certainly fall on the wrong side. Can’t fight the football Gods on that one. Here’s to a great 2nd half.

  4. barca96
    February 1, 2014

    That was really unnecessary of Messi to be so obsessed with scoring a goal. There were at least twice where he should’ve passed instead.

    And I remember once Pedro could’ve squared to a free Cesc but instead opted for Messi who had 2 players to deal and had a tough angel on goal.

    Messi needs to relax and play naturally again. The goals will come. Team first before personal glory. We’re, or we were only 1 nil up. Too close for comfort.

  5. Ryan
    February 1, 2014

    Yikes, 1-2. We’ve got some work to do!

  6. barca96
    February 1, 2014

    Sheesus…What an unstoppable penalty.

    • kosby
      February 1, 2014

      seems like we were very lucky to get that call

  7. barca96
    February 1, 2014

    Mascherano’s customary lunge or tackle from the back followed with a claim of innocence. Must have at least one in a match.

  8. kosby
    February 1, 2014

    2-3 down now..defense looking extremely porous suddenly

  9. barca96
    February 1, 2014

    I can see Man City scoring a handful of goals with a performance like this

  10. PrinceYuvi
    February 1, 2014

    Didn’t they sell half their squad yesterday ?

  11. kosby
    February 1, 2014

    its probably time we tried shooting from outside the box..

  12. kosby
    February 1, 2014

    I love messi but honestly he’s having a terrible game..misplaced passes, non passes and with just 10 men I was hoping he would contribute more to pressing. Alexis is playing in front of him and still Alexis tracks back to midfield instead of messi. 2nd half we’ve definitely not been playing to our potential.

  13. ibbe
    February 1, 2014

    Hlebuary starts in style this year..luckily it’s the Madrid derby tomorrow so only one of them will surpass us..go atletico!

    • It’s not buddy. They both could overtake us by EOD tomorrow. We were lucky that Atletico didn’t overtake us last time, but I am certain that we won’t be lucky this time around.

      • ibbe
        February 1, 2014

        There is no way we will still be in the first place after the derby but we will still be in second place if real wins or if atletico wins. And the reason I’d like atletico to win is that I fancy our chances of victory against atletico on match day 38 more than the upcoming clasico..anyway we have to win both if we are to have a chance of winnig the league.

        • Peter
          February 1, 2014

          The Madrid Derbi is on the 2nd/3rd of March. Tomorrow is Athletic(Bilbao) – Real Madrid, and Atletico(Madrid) – Real Sociedad(the other Basque club, from San Sebastian).

          These are still tough matches, but it’s not the Madrid derby.

          • ooga aga
            February 1, 2014

            the madrid derby is in copa del rey on wednesday

          • Peter
            February 1, 2014

            Yeah, but that’s CdR, not La Liga. Ibbe was saying that only one of the two Madrids can supersede Barcelona after the games tomorrow, when it’s possible that Barcelona would be in third place instead, if both Madrids win their matches.

            It’s going to be funny two weeks, that’s for sure.

    • ibbe
      February 1, 2014

      Apologies, my madridista friend thought the derby was 2nd of February, had no reason to doubt him lol. Anyway this unfortunate defeat is merely a setback..we can still win this. Visca!

  14. Ryan
    February 1, 2014

    Well, we definitely were punished for all those missed chances earlier in the game. Valencia really came back with a vengeance in the 2nd half, but we shouldn’t have given them the chance!

  15. barca96
    February 1, 2014

    This type of Messi is what we don’t need. Pass the ball!!! At least twice he could’ve passed to a team mate with a higher chance of scoring but opted to shoot himself.

    Not solely blaming on Messi though as the whole team didn’t have any urgency and were lethargic. Deserved to lose.

  16. emiljorgensen
    February 1, 2014

    Once again, our under-15 style defense is letting us down. Time to let Bartra start the more important games aswell.

  17. kosby
    February 1, 2014

    Valencia were better than us. There can be no other excuses for this performance. We are a good team but we’re not the best team. Not in europe at any rate.

    • G6O
      February 1, 2014

      The “you score as many as you can, we score as many as we want” philosophy only works as long as you do not allow absurdly easy goals.

  18. G6O
    February 1, 2014

    I’ve seen this exact type of match many times in the past – we start well, score a quick goal, then instead of finishing the game off, we lose concentration, miss chances, then slow the game down and eventually let goals in and lose points. Around the 20th minute, I started having an uneasy feeling about this and unfortunately it was confirmed…

    3rd place, here we go 🙁

    • barca96
      February 1, 2014

      I thought those days were over, until when Pedro passed to Messi who was surrounded by 2 defenders and had a tight angle. I thought that’s it. This let’s help Messi score obsession is gonna bite us in the ass.

  19. Peter
    February 1, 2014

    Damn. Just this. This is what I get for “calculating” the chances of Barcelona for the title.

    It was a very unlucky match, but it was also a bad performance of the team. I hadn’t seen Messi that… lost? Busquets was also shaky. I just don’t know what was into them.

    • mohit
      February 1, 2014

      Look at Messi pre and post the 22nd minute. Right then, he took a shot and later grimaced. After that, his level dropped. Don’t know if that affected him.

      • barca96
        February 1, 2014

        Yup after one chance, I believe the one I mentioned, the one interchange with Pedro, his mood changed and he lost it.

    • barca96
      February 1, 2014

      I doubt both Atletico and Madrid won’t drop anymore points.

      • G6O
        February 1, 2014

        And we have to play them and they have to play each other. Nothing is lost yet, but dropping 7 points in a month is not how you win La Liga in the 2010s

        • Jafri
          February 1, 2014

          Yeah, I know they won’t drop points, but to lose cause of silly mistakes when the league goes to a hundred points is going to be really hard to come back from. And now we have to rely on them to mess up instead of being (relatively) in control.

    • ooga aga
      February 1, 2014

      funniest post of the year. you’ve got to be joking.

      • Jafri
        February 1, 2014

        I think we can agree to disagree. I would love to be proven wrong in four months time 🙂

        • ooga aga
          February 2, 2014

          ?
          there’s no way you can “know” the liga is over. therefore even if we dont win, it wouldnt prove you right.

          anyways, we still control our own destiny in la liga. therefore saying “and thats the league” makes no sense

        • ooga aga
          February 2, 2014

          i mean really, it just seems whiny to have “and thats the league” be your reaction to this match.

  20. psalmuel
    February 1, 2014

    Our defense suddenly becomes poor over night. We could have easily won 1-0 if our defenders hadn’t taken a nap

  21. Rami
    February 1, 2014

    This was the most pathetic display from alba, In his entire career possibly, He should be ashamed of himself.

    All of the 3 silly goals came from his side!, Feghouli had a field day out their, and netted 2 assists because of alba’s incompetency, We knew he was average in defense, But this is unacceptable, We should be welcoming adriano with open arms.

    Messi was the MOM.

    • barca96
      February 1, 2014

      Nobody deserved to be the MoM to me. I’m glad that Messi tried hard but he shouldn’t be so selfish in front of the goal and there’s no need to dribble players all teh time. He was constantly surrounded so his team mates were free but yet he chose to dribble every single time.

      In the first 30 mins, his dribbles were successful but after that it failed more often than not.

      Pedro, Alexis and Tello were anonymous.

    • morph73
      February 1, 2014

      What’s the opinion on Pique’s stupendous performance today 😀

    • morph73
      February 1, 2014

      And tbh alba was having a better game today… Made some really good tackles…
      For me I would say the players wanting Messi to score after the 1st goal, shaky performances from Busi n Pique and also the fact that our fullbacks remained on the upper part of the pitch whenever facing the 9-0-1 formation made it all go wrong…

  22. PrinceYuvi
    February 1, 2014

    Appreciation comment for hearts of all cules who survived. Good night.

  23. mohit
    February 1, 2014

    All things considered, that was an entertaining match. Yeah, we lost, our defense was terrible. But if this is what motivates the players to go out and win the remaining matches, I’ll gladly take this loss!

  24. mohit
    February 1, 2014

    Sevilla up next. Alba out (good or bad?), and so is Mascherano (definitely bad). Hope Bartra seizes this opportunity and steps up.

  25. amenyo james
    February 1, 2014

    tata’s tactical change not de best

    • selfie barça
      February 1, 2014

      In all fairness, Jordi Alba’s red card did not help him tactically… What changes would you have made?

    • bedhead
      February 1, 2014

      I agree. A better tactical change IMO would have been Iniesta in for Lexus. And either Cesc moves to wing so that Xavi and Iniesta can both bring their creativity in midfield or Iniesta moves to wing so that he can penetrate the box and Xavi and Cesc can feed balls in from midfield. Taking Xavi off was a mistake as we needed 3 creative players. Pedro could have come off for Tello, for some fresh legs and speed.

    • barca96
      February 1, 2014

      The subs were good. Its just unfortunate that the red card happened after the changes were made. I do wonder why Tata didn’t take Pedro or Alexis out after the red card as he still had 1 change left.

  26. SoccerMom
    February 1, 2014

    So SoccerMom goes to her little Saturday morning community-center art class and comes home to this mess. Can’t a SoMa have a little me time without worrying that the kids are going to wreck the place? Ya’ll have a week to clean this up, or else I’m going to start making unfavorable comparisons to those “nice Madrid boys.” I’m counting!

  27. justdoit94
    February 1, 2014

    in the past 4 liga matches,we won 5 pts out of 12 with the next match being at one of the most difficult ground in la liga…
    i am not looking forward to another draw or loss !

    • ooga aga
      February 1, 2014

      sevilla is more difficult than a trip to el calderon, san mames or bernabeu?

  28. Dar_vincy
    February 1, 2014

    The way we defended was overwhemingly atrocious and comical to say the least. The way I see it, it’s not just down to individual incompetencies but a systemic problem. Defending as a unit and being compact as one is something that needs urgent remedying. That we’ve not conceded much goals is down to our possession style of playing and defending and not really the brillance of our defence.
    I just hope our fortune transforms for the best.

  29. selfie barça
    February 1, 2014

    The three goals we conceded today were not down to a systemic problem. All were because of crucial individual mistakes.

    • Dar_vincy
      February 2, 2014

      No doubt, Levon.
      I was actually speaking on a general note and not really today’s game. However, before it got to the extent of individual errors, there were occasions that the move could have been thwarted. Moments of complacency and not doing enough leads to us conceding goals- most of which are avoidable. One more thing, our midfield is almost always effortlessly breached without much challenge to opposing players. That, my friend, is something we have to critically examine.

  30. Peter
    February 1, 2014

    It’s unreasonable, but right now I just want to curl in a ball, drift off to sleep and wake up today in the morning, when there were still six hours to the start of the match. Being my usual superstitious self, I cannot help but blame my not completing the pre-game ritual and in a way not taking it seriously. Just like Barcelona did today.

  31. Messiah10
    February 1, 2014

    I just don’t think Jordi Alba’s upside is worth risking for the poor defensive cover he provides. I’ve said this since Jordi became available, but Tata shouldn’t play Dani & Jordi together. We are to vunerable that way. Tito did it last year and I cringed each time. Adriano, based on Lea’s last post, is the better defender. He also tests keepers from outside the box. He should start every game. Use Jordi as a backup or sell him. We could command a good price for him. Why is Bartra not starting? I don’t want to hear any nonsense about how young he is. Look at Alaba,Varane, & Marquinhos. He can be just as talented or already is, but he needs games.

    • Peter
      February 1, 2014

      Most of the players who played against Levante were rested – because in their meseta-loving infinite wisdom decided that Barcelona have to play their match against Levante on Wednesday 22:00 and then play on Saturday 16:00. Whereas Real played on Tuesday 20:00 and will play tomorrow at 20:00, meaning they’ve had more than double the time to rest. If Bartra had played, he would’ve done so a little more than 48 hours after having a prolonged ice-cold shower. Bartra may not start against Real Sociedad, btw. But he would start against Sevilla. Let’s hope he grabs his chance with both hands.

      • Peter
        February 1, 2014

        *in their meseta-loving wisdom the LFP decided that

  32. February 1, 2014

    What a funny game. First 35 minutes were probably the best football played this season. It had Gerardo Martino written all over it, what he has brought to the club, especially the transition offense when they defend deeper. Around the 20 minute mark, Barca defended on their own half, Valencia high up the field and as soon as they won the ball, they attacked right away and it happened twice around 20 minute mark. Players like Pedro and Alexis leading the way. Two great counter attack players, they are much better when they have space in front of them, instead of play through a deep defensive block around their own penalty area.
    It’s a shame that Barca conceded late in the first half, but give all the credit to Valencia, their build ups for the goals were brilliant and one of the best overall goals scored against Barca, they kept the ball so well and exploited all the weaknesses Barca had, which was the defense. First goal Alba went unnessecaryly sliding into the challenge, lost it, and stayed on the ground. Valencia attacked his space and scored.
    2nd goal was after 19! passes. And it came also from Alba’s side after through ball behind him. Though this goal goes down as Valdes’s blunder. As good as he has been this season, this goes to his name. Also very bad decision to come off the line in a corner in the first half, almost a goal. Not a good game for him.
    The 3rd one I have to sing praises for Feghouli, made something out of nothing, beat 4-5 players that were surrounding him, he played a part in every single goal, MOTM for me.
    About 15 minutes to go, Martino made a change I’ve been waiting for the whole season. He played ALexis as a #9 against Levante, he scored 2 and assisted 1 (though very bad defending) and showed that he could play there. Martino brought Tello for Fabregas and turned into a 2-5-3 formation

    Tello-Alexis-Pedro
    Alba-Iniesta-Busquets-Messi-Alves
    Mascherano-Pique

    For the first time this season he has used a #9 ahead of Messi and I really wanted to see how it worked out, Messi played a lovely through ball to Tello right away and it seemed it could work, but 20 seconds later Alba got his 2nd yellow and they had to improvise since then and couldn’t really find the rhythm.

    I think this game showed exactly Barca’s greatness and also Barca’s weaknesses. Hard to blame Martino here, it’s not his fault that he doesn’t have enough big squad. It’s pretty obvious that they need a CB and move Mascherano back to midfield (was brilliant against Levante, 15 mins in midfield) I don’t know what’s the problem with the board signing a CB, but the last one they signed was Chigrinsky in 2010. That pretty much sums it all up. It’s Real Madrid’s title to lose I’m starting to think…

    • February 1, 2014

      Oh, and I forgot to mention that Mathieu was once again brilliant! This guy is a ginger Abidal, also a LB turned into a LCB. He is so versatile, strong, fast, good with the ball. He had Deulofeu in his pocket in pre season game vs Everton. Baku had the chance to buy him, but the price was considered too high or whatever. Just another CB turned down by the board. It’s just ridiculous.

    • Momo
      February 1, 2014

      Great analysis Allas. Love your videos by the way, long time subscriber!

    • KEVINO17
      February 1, 2014

      Allas – great analysis. Totally agree. Ive been whining for a long time that barca should get a big number 9. Actually, I was wrong because Alexis can play like a traditional 9 (surprisingly good in the air, very stable back to goal) and offer a hell of a lot besides, including the ability to drop into midfield to help with the defence. Further, playing in the middle he can shift to EITHER side to help with the pressing. Would love to see him double teaming with Pedro and Neymar.
      Still think we need a double pivot and maybe three at the back.

  33. ooga aga
    February 1, 2014

    amazing that valencia is so far down the table. on their day they can play with any team in europe, and it’s been that way for years. we relaxed too soon in this game and made some crucial individual errors, cant do that against the bats. it should have been 3-1 at the half and instead it was 1-1. add in the red card for a dubious second yellow on alba and there ya go.

    this next week or two will show who is the strongest contender. these are just the first few points to be dropped by the big 3. there will be more.

  34. KEVINO17
    February 1, 2014

    Things seemed to go wrong when our press slackened off, which was hardly surprising with Messi having a catnap every time he or anyone else lost the ball. His lack of defensive effort was amazing. He was the ulimate luxury player, which would be fine if the midfield had defensive starch, but it doesnt with Xavi in the middle. So you basically have only Pedro and Alexis putting in a full defensive shift. Nowhere near enough against good teams.
    Barca doesn’t press properly it loses all the advantages its style should give it and becomes incredibly vulnerable.
    Time, I think, for the double pivot, particularly if Messi isn’t going to defend at all

  35. KEVINO17
    February 1, 2014

    Busi is still adjusting to the fact that he is now the number one target: they are waiting for the dragback Busi, and the Busi flop doesn’t always work. The fact that they are not targeting Xavi suggests other sides don’t think he is going to hurt them. Maybe that is why Tata is using Sergio a lot more. More mobility, more offense and better defense.

  36. February 1, 2014

    Nice ananlysis Allas.
    I didnt know there were 19 passes for that goal, but I was wondering, how well Valencia were playing, then.
    If we knew how to defend, this game could still have been 1-0. All three goals, even the one from 19 passes, looked very easy goals to concede.
    Did something happen, for the whole team to be so lackadaisical like this.
    It was after very long we saw a kind of good one two from Messi and Alves, may be they forgot the fineness, it didnt end up in goal.

    So probably we will enjoy 3rd place for sometimes, unless Athletic do what they are doing very good all this season. Fingers crossed.

  37. February 1, 2014

    To add,
    Almost every away game, its like we face a 12th man in the home crowd.
    But in our own home, it is not the case.
    I did not think at any point yesterday, Valencia felt any effect of CampNou crowd. Some body who know Camp Nou well, hopefully knows better.

  38. TITO
    February 2, 2014

    I knew it, as soon as i realized that i wont be home watching the game, something will go wrong. Same happened with Osasuna, than happened with AM and Levante. :D. True story!

  39. gaspersm
    February 2, 2014

    You know what, sometimes i dont think it is such a bad idea, yes it may hurt, but if it will make the team better, and all players playing for the team then i am okay
    I mean selling messi may get us a lot of cash to bolster the squad in ALL areas.
    The squad will be
    GK ter stegen, moya
    RB carlos martinez, montoya
    CB benatia,balanta,bartra,pique
    LB alba, adriano
    DM busquets, luiz gustavo
    CM vidal,xavi, oliver torres,
    CAM iniesta, cesc, rafinha
    LWF neymar, pedro
    CF jackson martinez, gilardinho
    RWF sanchez,pedro,

    25 players, a complete squad with all variants in the game and can play tiki taka and also the style tata is trying to impose, but since this is barca, we may end up with ter stegen only

    • barca96
      February 2, 2014

      Selling Messi???!!! Why on earth would you sell the best player, the player who is the key to our success? Every team needs a key player and he is ours!

      • gaspersm
        February 2, 2014

        Well i dont think it is true that each team needs a key player who is heads above everyone else. Because the team builds around that player and becomes too dependent and once he is out of form, or opponents make tactics to nullify him then we are doomed

    • Peter
      February 2, 2014

      Kindly put the PS3 controller down.

      • gaspersm
        February 2, 2014

        I dont play PS3 unfortunately. I am just saying what could happen if this was done because some people suggested it

        • Peter
          February 2, 2014

          The problem with your ideas that I have is that it looks just like FIFA Manager thinking. In the real world it doesn’t.

          Real Madrid have a scary squad of players. The problem is that this squad knows they are stars, they know they are in Madrid because they are the best. The constant renovation of the squad robs them of valuable team experience. If Madrid had decided to stay with the same squad for two years running, and just drive the players to make a real team of them, they would’ve already gotten that Decima.

          It takes time to build the camaraderie and instinctive knowledge what to expect from your teammates. Atletico Madrid have that. Barcelona have that. Bayern have that. Manchester United had that. Hell, Athletic Bilbao have a version of that.

          What your proposition is, is to start from scratch. Unless you have a brilliant coach, you will need a very long time to do that.

    • Jim
      February 2, 2014

      Do you honestly think that squad would win anything?

      • gaspersm
        February 2, 2014

        Unless the coach is eusebio. With a coach who can integrate the players the way heynckes would, there is no way that team would not win titles

  40. dl
    February 2, 2014

    Saw this comment on the guardian, and found it both insightful and very witty, so couldn’t resist….

    “Well, our coach revealed he had no plan B against Levante in the Liga match. Yesterday showed us that he has no plan A either. It seems to me that several Barça players have decided to use the official Liga and Copa matches to rehearse or try out how they want to play in the World Cup. We have Messi dropping back and showing what a brilliant playmaker he is, sending fantastic passes that cut through opposing defences and setting up goal scoring opportunities for Agüero?, Higuaín, Di María?
    This means Xavi has to fall back and ends up chatting to the centre backs – if they are there. Piqué wants to score from a set piece a la Pujol against Germany. Our Cesc – the box to box specialist like Grouchy at Waterloo heads towards the sound of gunfire but rarely arrives at the battlefield. Iñiesta who was the object of several “virile studs up on the knee tackles “ against Atlético de Madrid spent most of the game playing gauging how match fit he was and trying to avoid being hacked down. Alexis scampered after every loose ball with incredible enthusiasm; he put me in mind of a puppy in the local park with his 12 year old owner throwing sticks for him to chase. Valdés? Well, he decided to forget about concentrating on the game – either that or I was just dreaming when the Liga´s shortest player scored with a header some fifteen yards out.
    So, goodbye La Liga, farewell the Copa and adios to the Champions. So who sweeps the silverware this season? Italy´s Real Madrid? Good goalie, weakfish defence, great midfield and two of the fastest counter attacking forward I have ever seen – Bale, when he is not injured and CR7 – plus that special Real Madrid penchant for setting up direct free kicks on the edge of the opposing side´s penalty box. Or, Argentina´s Atlético de Madrid; playing to the limit of rules and regulation, fantastic goalie, hardworking midfield and yet another incredible striker (Torres, Agüero, Falcao and now Costa – where do they get from?) My money is on Atlético for the domestic double, Pep´s team – some consolation! for the CL and Messi for the World Cup. Barça? Well, we might be able to get through to the semis of the Copa de Catalunya.
    Great workmanlike display from a new and sharp looking Valencia.”

    • February 2, 2014

      Knee jerk reactions at its best. Not too long ago we were singing praise of this coach when he defeated a strong Madrid side. On a day when nothing was going right (hard to ignore the Aragones effect as many of these players tasted their real success under him, as it was obvious from Xavi’s face). Its ok to loose points. The league is still very long to play for and all teams have some very very difficult fixtures lined up along with CL commitments.

      • gaspersm
        February 2, 2014

        What strong madrid side. The current madrid side is the strong madrid side!!! They were undone by poor tactics by anceloti but they have the quality to cause us harm this time now that the new players bale,carvajal, and others have integrated. Please dont overhype our win because we were close to drawing the game had the referee rewarded that fair penalty to CR7

      • barca96
        February 2, 2014

        Cmon. Even if there was an Aragonés effect, believe or not, only in 2009/10 did Barça have a large number of players in the national team. It was only on Xavi, Iniesta, Cesc and Puyol. Xavi played yesterday, Iniesta was a sub, Cesc played but was only a sub during Aragonés’ time and Puyol wasn’t even in the squad.

        So the Aragonés shouldn’t even be an issue as to why we lost.

  41. gaspersm
    February 2, 2014

    Messi: “My son is the best thing that has happened to me. My mentality has changed, he comes first now, before the others.”

    • gaspersm
      February 2, 2014

      Messi: “It’s a bad day because of the loss yesterday. As for me, I’m happy to have played several games in a row, bad times are forgotten.”

  42. gaspersm
    February 2, 2014

    Messi: “It’s a bad day because of the loss yesterday. As for me, I’m happy to have played several games in a row, bad times are forgotten.”

  43. barca96
    February 2, 2014

    Cmon. Even if there was an Aragonés effect, believe or not, only in 2009/10 did Barça have a large number of players in the national team. It was only on Xavi, Iniesta, Cesc and Puyol. Xavi played yesterday, Iniesta was a sub, Cesc played but was only a sub during Aragonés’ time and Puyol wasn’t even in the squad.

    So the Aragonés shouldn’t even be an issue as to why we lost.

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