Whose Club Is This Anyway?

Jordi Cardoner, the VP of “Social Areas” gave an interview to El Mundo Deportivo the other day, and he had a couple of interesting things to say about the club’s views on socis and foreign supporters. I’ll give you the Spanish version first, and then a translation. Corrections or clarifications are welcome.

¿Por qué deciden que los socios se puedan hacer sólo de forma presencial? ¿No es una forma de renunciar a ingresos?

No, básicamente es un tema de identidad. Necesitamos conseguir beneficios para mantener la excelencia como club, pero si sólo fuera un tema de recursos, los podríamos conseguir de otra forma. Buscamos un socio de calidad. Si echamos la vista atrás, desde 1982 hasta el 2003, que se hace la campaña del ‘Gran Repte’, tenemos unos socios fieles de 105.000 con bandas de fluctuación +/- 8%. Luego, pese a ganar la Champions en el 92, no hay ningún salto. Con el ‘Gran Repte’, nos encontramos con lo que nos pasa actualmente, que hay un promedio de 12.000 socios de baja anual. No queremos ser el club con más socios del mundo, sino compromismo social por parte del socio y eso empieza por desplazarse al club y darse de alta. No queremos salir en el Guinness por el número de socios, sino en años de historia y de éxito.

¿Pero no existe contradicción con querer un socio arraigado y luego hacer giras por Asia y América?

No, a los de fuera les vendemos otras cosas. A los simpatizantes les podemos vender muchas cosas, desde camisetas, aplicaciones de ‘smartphone’… Este perfil de cliente da un dinero y quiere algo a cambio, el socio del Barça no, porque tiene el sentimiento culé en sus genes y transmite ese sentimiento de abuelos a nietos.

Full interview is HERE

And in English, thanks very much to @DuskySprngfield for the timely translation!

Why has it been decided that membership can only be made in person? Doesn’t
that take away from revenue?

No, basically it’s an issue of identity. We need to find benefits to
maintain the excellence of the club but if it was only an issue of raising
revenue we can do that another way. We’re looking for quality members. If
we look back, from 1982 to 2003, since the “Gran Repte” campaign we’ve had
105,000 loyal members with a fluctuation between +/- 8%. After winning the
Champions League in 1992 there’s been no jump in memberships. After the
“Gran Repte”, we discovered that in actuality we have an average loss of
12,000 members annually. We don’t want to be the club with the most members
in the world, but rather have a social commitment on the part of the member
and that begins by going to the club and registering (in person).

Isn’t it a contradiction to want a local member and yet do tours throughout Asia and the Americas?

No, to those outside we sell them other things. To the supporters we can
sell a lot of things, from t-shirts to apps. This type of customer spends
money and wants something in return, the Barça member does not, because
they have a sentimental attachment to being culé in their genes and pass
that sentiment on from grandparent to grandchild.


One of the more contentious issues around our beloved club in recent years has been the restrictions that were imposed after the 2010 elections on who is eligible to apply for soci status. After the explosion of foreigners signing up during the Laporta presidency, Rosell’s board moved to apply strict limitations–basically you had to be a direct relative of a current member even if you have supported Barca all your life and live across from the Camp Nou. They later introduced a 3-year “Committment Card” process that allows holders to eventually be considered to become full-fledged socis, but the card must be applied for and renewed in person at club offices every year. Clearly the club has retreated from its “Great Challenge” of recruiting members from all over the world, and wants to firmly reestablish its identification as a Catalan club run by Catalan socis…but with a global marketing outreach.

We have debated the issue of whether foreigners should be allowed to become full-fledged socis in this space several times, most recently HERE, so I won’t get into detail about my views again. However, I thought these recent statements by Cardoner deserved some comment. Over the last 3 years Rosell has trodden a careful path between the sensitivities of his xenophobic Catalan electoral base and the millions of supporters around the world who identify with the club and think of it as their own. Many foreign cules who either already are or hope to become socis have been angered by the restrictive policies that have been put in place, even as the club has actively sought out new markets and invited them to join the cule family. These comments by Cardoner make it quite clear that foreigners are valued solely as a source of income for the club, no matter how much they may personally “identify” with Barca’s history and struggles. There is an argument to be made in favour of that point of view, although many in this space will disagree.

So what do you think? I know we have a couple of new posters in here who are Catalans, and possibly socis as well. Do you see Barça as a Catalan-only club? How do you feel about foreigners like us identifying with it and wanting to become members?

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  1. alpinegroove
    July 18, 2013

    A question about our midfield depth: can Neymar play the Iniesta role if the latter is injured / rested?

    Tello or Alexis could play LF in those instances.

    • G6O
      July 19, 2013

      I don’t think he could – he would have to subdue a lot of his instincts to make it work. I would rather have Fabregas there.

  2. IamXavi6
    July 19, 2013

    As a Barca fan for over 20years; I was devestated when the decision to close and restrict the ability to join the club as a member was made.

    I do understand the principles behind it, and actually grasp and support in theory what the reasons were (as mentioned briefly) in your article.

    However, it certainly leaves a bad taste in your mouth as a true lifelong fan that you are shut out due to lack of geographical and blood line fortunates to join; in lieu to ‘preserve’ the identity of the club, yet, on the same hand, the club sells out with Rosell, Qatar, and making a mockery to preserve the identity of the club.

    No surprise with the statement of foreign fans being viewed as income making. Harsh but true.

    • mohit
      July 19, 2013

      The identity of the club is being Catalan. That has very little to do with Rosell selling out the club to Qatar for money.

      The door is not shut completely. Apply for a commitment card, visit Barcelona once a year for 3 years, and soon you can apply for a soci card!

  3. barcadan
    July 19, 2013

    The situation reminds me of a story I heard recently on This American Life of a Native American tribe in the west who was actively, sometimes violently, removing members of their tribe through legal technicalities so the remaining members could reap more of the rewards between them. Obviously this doesnt translate in the same way economically, but these moves seem elitist and bordering on racist (“un soci de CALIDAD”).
    The way to build a club identity is not by shutting the doors to newcomers, but by respecting your own identity: not turing your back on past heros, not debasing yourself in public tantrums, sticking to a footballing system that is the envy of the world. Perhaps not letting someone tattoo their name across your colors . . .

    • barcadan
      July 19, 2013

      thanks for presenting the matter so well blitzen!

  4. K-cule
    July 19, 2013

    Thanks for this article Blitzen. To start off, I have not been a supporter of this club for a very long time like most here, and it is only from the last 3 years that I have avidly followed Barca’s many facets as an institution(politics, history, the game etc). Before that, I just used to be a fan of the football game – Etoo/Dinho times.So in a way I may not be very qualified or feel it more strongly as, say Kxevin (being a foreign soci) would feel/be more informed. Nonetheless, I understand why the admin may push for a catalan soci base and less so “outsiders”. We can all agree that the club is more than a game for them, a beacon that gives catalans an identity – it being mes que un club. For that reason, while foreigners might identify with the clubs values, goals etc, there is a good chance that they will always be that, outsiders just patting your back and saying, “hey brothers, we feel ya!We’re with you, in fact I want to join in this fight”. It does not mean that a foreign soci feels less love for the club than a catalan. In fact some, or most of them bleed red and blue. But the reality is that there will always be differing views depending on where you sit in this matter.It reminds me of an American college I attended, which because of the economic turbulence in 2008, tried to cut financial aid/drop need blind policy for international students, while at the same time aiming to be a global institution. Who in this case was right? An international student feeling excluded despite identifying with the school or the institution moving to preserve education for the citizens? Another scenario, would you hire a foreigner who is more qualified (with legal papers to work) or a less qualified citizen? Those might not be apt comparisons per se but they serve to illustrate my point that despite its global reach and appeal, Barca roots are deep set in the catalan culture, ingrained in the very fabric that gives one a catalan identity. It is a club that carries a people behind it, and has a right to “preserve” its values if it feels “diluted”, so to speak. Is it right? Depends on who you ask. Is it ethical or fair? No, not if the context is the whole world. So, as a foreign supporter, I don’t like where this is headed, and would fight against it if I had the power. But unfortunately, it is a complex situation that would need big changes or global interpretation of the clubs values for it to work. Otherwise, we will all be on the outside despite being inside, like Cruyff. Unless the leadership changes, and one with such expansive views takes over. I am curious what an anonymous survey on the views of catalan socis or cules would reveal. My 5 cts.

    • barcadan
      July 19, 2013

      “Otherwise, we will all be on the outside despite being inside, like Cruyff.” Great!
      As a man who abandoned my country, I am a firm believer in globilization, in breaking down cultural barriers (while not sacrificing cultural values), especially in the world of sports. It sometimes gets me in arguments with my independentista Catalan friends. . .

  5. mohit
    July 19, 2013

    “These comments by Cardoner make it quite clear that foreigners are valued solely as a source of income for the club, no matter how much they may personally “identify” with Barca’s history and struggles.”

    I don’t think he says or means that. What they want from members is to be involved with the club much more than foreign fans/supporters are at present. Hence, the requirement for having to visit their office every year. That doesn’t mean that foreigners can’t still be socis.

    Taking into account the Catalan history, traditions and their pride, I think this is fair.

  6. July 19, 2013

    2 things in my mind right now.

    1. On the membership issue: Yes, I’d have liked foreign membership but All these restrictions are fine provided they are for the right reasons. But When you talk of preserving identity, and then proceed to slap a sponsor on a hallowed shirt, thereby breaking a 100+ year old tradition and history, that just doesn’t sit well with me. That shirt too, was a big part of our identity. So what then.. This board is basically only doing things to suit their convenience and not really giving a fuck about the long term or identity. They use the right words like transparency and identity. But their actions don’t reflect those words they swore to live by. There’s a lot of fancy talk and very little follow through. That is why I feel debating the ‘rightness’ or ‘wrongness’ of this membership policy is.. pointless.

    2. On the Cesc rumors. I keep thinking if we might have done better to sell Cesc for 40M+ and using the same funds to reinvest in a top level center back. Thiago would have remained. His chances would have looked better as his main competition would have left. Furthermore, we would have gotten ourselves a CB without breaking a sweat. I know there are many Cesc fans out there and his stats are pretty decent. But stats, as xavi will say, only tell part of the story. I have never been convinced with his acquisition or his play. But he’s here to stay and this point is moot.

  7. Being a local entity, irrespective of the politics, I would say the local community should decide whether they should easily accept members from the around the world or not. There could be different tiers of membership, may be, as I commented in the earlier post about this issue.
    But, if the Catalans decide that the club socios should be only Catalans, then I can understand. We can still follow the club. And the club still has the right to market it all over the world. If anyone doesnt like that, dont follow or dont buy the shirts and other stuff.
    We follow the club for the football.

    OT:had wrongly put this in the last post.

    When I see the picture of our new asst. coach, Ruby, I have a feeling we now have a very intelligent guy in our coaching staff. I dont know anything about Ruby, but I am very intutive (which has mostly helped me, personally) and some how I get this feeling, Ruby is special.
    Am I the only one to think so.

  8. Huckleberry
    July 19, 2013

    I’m neither a Catalan nor a Spaniard (nor an American) but I can perfectly understand the motivation for this new rules and I don’t have any problems with them. I support the club and attend matches since the nineties when ever I have time to travel to Barcelona (and can get e ticket). But I never felt as if I had to be part of the club in the way the Catalans are. I’m fine with this kind of “xenophobia”.

    • Jim
      July 19, 2013

      I don’t see anything wrong with it either. Club belongs to its community. If they want to keep membership tight that’s okay with me – even though the rules changed just as I had my good lady signed up to the notion of me shelling out some money on it. 🙁

      Like Mohit I’m not seeing the jersey sponsor as a big issue in the identity of the club. To me, traditions can change over time and need to be assessed on their relevance to the current time.

  9. July 19, 2013

    The club was started by a Swiss businessman. Its most famous players are Brazilian and an Argentine. It’s (formerly) favorite son is Dutch. As Catalunya moves toward independence and becoming a full part of the modern world, it’s nice to stroll through the city and see the same sort of multi-culti energy as a massive European metropolis such as Paris.

    The club has sold its shirt to Qatar, and whatever form Qatar may deem to evince that sponsorship. Qatar Airlines today, Qatar Waste Disposal tomorrow. The club is now a player on the global scene, with business tentacles that are international.

    That club also has fans of varying levels all over the world, from those who just watch matches, to those who visit the city and the Camp every year for an in-person futbol degustation.

    As passion grows for a team, you begin to feel, and want to feel a greater part of that team. Becoming a soci is a rite of passage (or it was for me) that forged the bond between club and person who loves the club, in iron. It is so much more than just a draft off your credit card statement. It says that you are a living, breathing part of the club that you love. And that is priceless.

    When the club moved to remove that option for everyone (including most Catalans, it must be said), it didn’t sit well with me. It still doesn’t, even if there is the Commitment Card option, where you sign up, renew for three years and maybe, just maybe, at the end of that period you can become a soci. There is blood, family blood, etc, etc.

    It is absurd, and restrictive. It removes the possibility of forming that special bond with the club from too many people, and I believe that to be wrong. You can’t parse loving a club by geography or blood relationships.

    I understand that the club wants its members to feel more connected to the club. I understand that after a certain period, EVERY soci should be able to participate in the Assembly. There are ways to assure that without restricting membership.

    My view of this matter is that it is a shameful power grab by Rosell to strengthen his power base. The interview that aired the other evening was a play to his power base, his “more Catalan than thou” stance helped sweep him into office, and he continues to try to solidify that power base with things such as giving Penyas a vote in big club matters, etc.

    If you are going to say that club membership is for Catalans only, I can respect that, even as I think it hypocritical, given the club’s roots. But the club isn’t doing that. It’s pulling up the drawbridge and hanging out the “closed” sign, so that the president and his board can do what they want to do with the club.

    THAT is the part that doesn’t sit well with me, and it never, ever will.

    • mohit
      July 19, 2013

      Love for a club cannot be judged on the basis of geography or blood, agreed. However, I don’t see becoming a soci as the same as loving the club. One exists without the other, for me.

      The expectation from a soci is to take an active part in determining where the club is headed. And when it comes to that, who’s the better judge? Foreign members who love the club for its football, and may or may not identify with what Barca represents? Or the local citizens, whom the club affects on a more daily basis?

      I was about to apply for a soci card in 2008, thought I’d wait (what’s the rush?). Well, now I regret it. But I completely understand and accept the move.

  10. barcadan
    July 19, 2013

    Well, the shit just dropped for real. Due to relapse Tito is stepping down. Wowzers

  11. efcmentor
    July 19, 2013

    Rumours had it that Rubi will take over. This summer is turning out be nightmare for us.

  12. ooga aga
    July 19, 2013

    thinking optimistically, just because he is stepping down doesnt mean anything has gotten worse. just that the fight isnt over, and its too complicated to go on like this. im crossing fingers he is gonna be okay and return to what he loves some day.

    assuming thats what this is all about.

    presser scheduled for 20:30 local time, which is i believe a little later than a normal presser. thats 2:30pm eastern here in the states.

  13. ooga aga
    July 19, 2013

    why wouldnt tito be at this presser? too emotional? is it possible he has resigned for some other reason?

  14. July 19, 2013

    A board member just used the #animsTito hashtag on Twitter. It’s also in Mundo Deportivo, which, for those of you who know, is the club mouthpiece. That means it’s been deliberately leaked.

    How in the unvarnished hell can a club be expected to go through? I feel like this is some sort of biblical test. This is unspeakably sad news, when someone has to stop doing something that they love, because their body has betrayed them.

    Vilanova’s health is most important, over everything. My best wishes for his strength in what must have been, and will be a nasty battle.

    • Oliver
      July 19, 2013

      Board member seems to have deleted the tweet.

  15. CuleToon
    July 19, 2013

    I’ve been mulling over this issue for some hours until I realized that, in the end, the real problem is that of voting rights. But more on that later.

    Being a catalan old soci, I never thought that much about this issue. The only time I was aware of it was when someone —don’t remember who— wrote a piece about it here at BFB, when Rosell announced the new criteria to become a soci. But being aware of it doesn’t make it easier for me to put myself in the place of a foreign soci. So I’ll set forth some points from my own perpective and I’ll leave them open to discussion:

    1- I condemn strongly Cardoner’s words. You don’t have to put yourself in the mind of a foreign soci to feel disgusted —even insulted— by those words. They just reflect the nature of the people in this board.

    2- As K-cule said: «Despite its global reach and appeal, Barca roots are deep set in the Catalan culture, ingrained in the very fabric that gives one a Catalan identity». That is a fact, and those of you that know Barça’s history know its power, and know where this power comes from. Perhaps this situation will change, but not in the near future. I, for sure, will not live to see it.

    2- As mohit pointed out, that «Catalanity» has very little to do with Rosell «selling» out the club to Qatar. That’s only Rosell’s responsibility, and is also the responsibility of those who elected him. There are many, many socis that are against it, and their numbers grow by the day.

    3- Key to understanding properly this issue is the definition of «Catalan». Please don’t talk of «xenophoby», and much less of any kind of «racism». There are no Catalan «thoroughbreds»; all of us have some ancestor who came from elsewhere because historically, and due to its geographical position, Catalonia has been a melting pot of different cultures, mediterranean cultures in the beginning, almost worldwide cultures today. «A Catalan is every person who lives, and works, in Catalonia». That’s, ideally, the only requisite.

    4- The voting rights. I think this is the real problem here. I remember when being a soci was open to anyone in the world during Laporta’s era: we felt proud of our club being so much loved around the world. But then, when Rosell «warned» about the possibility of the Club’s future being in the hands of socis who didn’t know what Barça is and represents, he did strike a chord, however exaggerated and populist this «warning» was.

    5- So, all things considered, is everyone in the world who loves Barça entitled to have a say in Barças’s daily life? I don’t think so. Where are we to draw the line? Should the right to vote be granted to those «foreign» socis with a minimum number of years as socis? How many would be of them? It’s a very complex thing. Previously, until the end of the Gaspart era, there was a «supporter card» with some privileges that, AFAIK, doesn’t exist today. Would that be a good solution for many Barça fans around the world?

    6- There are about 180.000 socis today, and the Camp Nou has 99.800 seats. The so-called «season tickets» are not exactly that. They are renewed automatically each season, so each seat is sort of «owned» by the same soci until he relinquishes it. And it is practically impossible to get one. The only hope for all those socis without a seat to watch a particular live match is to buy a ticket through the club for a seat whose «owner» will not attend that particular match and has «liberated» that seat. Does this justify those restrictive policies by Rosell & Co? Frankly, I don’t have an answer, at least for now. And any input from you will be very welcome.

    So, blitzen, I think that your depiction of Barça as a Catalan club, run by Catalan socis, and with a global marketing outreach, is correct, provided you take into account the above definition of «who is a Catalan». And I don’t see it changing.

    PS.: Kxevin, you say «You can’t parse loving a club by geography or blood relationships». In the end, and having in mind what to be a Catalan means, I think it has to do much more with «proximity» in all the meanings, physical and non-physical, of the word.

  16. CuleToon
    July 19, 2013

    That was not the right moment to post my comment, but I’ve been working on it for hours and, just before the last proof-read, the sad news about Tito came to the fore. That’s the most important matter now.

    Ànims, Tito!

    • July 19, 2013

      I think it’s an excellent comment, and i will give it my full attention when I get home later. In the meantime, check out the previous discussion I linked to in the post. I did indeed propose a tiered system of membership that would offer some rights and privileges to those who love the club but don’t live locally, but restrict voting rights to those who live in the area the club is rooted in. For me, that is the best solution.


      • CuleToon
        July 19, 2013

        Thanks, blitzen. A very interesting piece. Surely I didn’t visit BFB those days, since it is new to me. I was talking about another piece written about a couple of years ago. We’ll talk more about this when we have the opportunity. Now I don’t feel like saying anything more, and I’m sure you feel the same.

  17. ooga aga
    July 19, 2013

    No worries, CuleToon, we nonetheless appreciate your thoughtful post, and thanks also to Blitzen for starting the conversation. who knew what horrible news we would have?

    Anims Tito!

  18. CuleToon
    July 19, 2013

    It’s made the front page on Sport, EMD, As and Marca. So it’s true. I have no words.

  19. BA
    July 19, 2013

    best wishes of course to Tito and his family, but this leaves us in an awkward situation with no clear successor and nobody to guide transfer policy or command training.

    i feel like this is a big part of the instability surrounding the club’s dealings this season and why we haven’t been more proactive in the transfer market. Rubi looks to be leapfrogging Jordi Roura (who is wholly inadequate), but there’s no confirmation that he’s capable of coaching at our level, so in addition to everything else we should be in the market for a new coach. the question is: Who?

    • mohit
      July 19, 2013

      Think the new coach talk can wait a day or two.

      • barca96
        July 19, 2013

        Just when Lucho and Oscar Garcia joined a club. Jupp Hynkes is the only coach I can think of.

        What a summer. From Dwightmare to this. This summer is a trying time for the club. Just unbelievable. Hopeful we’ll get through it as always. Good time for everyone with the club to stop fighting and stick together for the better of the club.

        • G6O
          July 19, 2013

          Or Bielsa.

          Mid-July is the worst time for this to happen though – coaching changes are usually done in May. In July pretty much everyone is already committed. Could not have happened at a worse time.

          But that’s a minor issue – that he has relapsed is very bad news, because that’s the second time this happens, and that’s not good at all.

  20. barca96
    July 19, 2013

    Thoughts and prayers for you Tito.

    Goosebumps all over my leg. Scary.

  21. PrinceYuvi
    July 19, 2013

    4 sick rich clubs monitoring messi situation. PSG, anzi, monaco, man city willing to shell out 120M. [as]
    Anybody scared ?
    Sure I’m.

    • mei
      July 19, 2013

      Don’t ever, EVER, post silly rumours like these let alone on such day.

      • PrinceYuvi
        July 19, 2013

        Whoa. Capital letters, calm down !

  22. CuleToon
    July 19, 2013

    All the players at the presser.
    Alexis and Messi specially sad.
    All the players and technical staff look preocupied and sad.
    All the photo journos shooting their cameras at the face of the players…

    Rosell and Zubi in.
    Rosell, genuinely sad, reads a formal statement: After a routine check, it has been determined that Tito has to follow a treatment which is incompatible with his activity as Barça coach.
    Next week we will announce our new coach.
    Tomorrow’s match suspended.
    We will go on.
    Nothing more until next week, when the new coach will be presented.

    That’s it.

    • Jim
      July 19, 2013

      I thought he looked quite emotional at points earlier in the week and now it’s clear why.

      Wonder how long he’s known. Took guts to face that press conference or over an hour if he did. Lovely man and, imo, great manager. We’ll miss him. Get well, Tito.

      Perhaps not the right time for speculation about a placement.

      • July 19, 2013

        I would think he found out (in the days) after his press conference, Jim.

        Very, very sad news.

        ANIMS TITO

  23. nia
    July 19, 2013

    This is so sad and the sporting aspect of it suddenly become secondary. Hope for a full recovery for Tito, #animstito.

  24. July 19, 2013

    I am still in a shock. And if it is anything like last time Tito’s cancer came back I won’t snap out of it until at least after two days.

    As for replacement, Lucho would be an obvious choice had he not just signed for Celta de Vigo (and taken aboard Rafinha!)

    I hear Laudrup is open for a move and apparently he has done very well at Swansea.

    The best option however? If we could somehow convince Frank de Boer to leave Ajax…

    • Oliver
      July 19, 2013

      For what it’s worth, from barcastuff:

      Barcelona’s new coach will not be one of the two assistant coaches, but come from outside the club. Barcelona had plan B prepared. [rac1]

      The announcement of the new coach of Barcelona would take a few days because he could at this moment be coaching another team. [rac1]

  25. ooga aga
    July 19, 2013

    i have a very sad feeling in my stomach, my heart goes out to tito, his family, and all of Can Barca, esp the players. i dont doubt that Tito will beat this, but how sad that it will take him away from what he loves doing.

  26. simple_barcafan
    July 19, 2013

    #animstito…sad..really sad..

  27. ilie
    July 19, 2013

    Hope Tito gets the best medical care possible and he manages to overcome this. Hope it helps not having to bear all that stress day in and day out, from now on.

  28. Dani_el
    July 19, 2013

    I just came home and I saw this. I’m shocked, I really thought he was ok medically. Hope he recovers soon enough. All my prayers to him and his family.
    Anims Tito!

  29. Lanu
    July 20, 2013

    A few comments from a Catalan, born in Barcelona, soci and season ticket holder who goes to every game at the Camp Nou.

    -I was (and still am) against the restrictions to become a soci, but to those of you who only see it as a Catalans vs rest of the world thing (including the writer of this article), I should point out that the majority of Catalans can’t become socis either, they still need to be close relatives of a soci even if they were born at the Maternitat Hospital (which is a few metres from the Camp Nou).

    -Laporta was overtly pro-Catalan independence (even leading a political party which supports it after leaving the club) and wasn’t shy linking Barça and Catalan identity no matter what. He promoted the ‘Big Challenge’. On the contrary, Rosell has been criticized by many for avoiding the issue (I don’t even think he wants independence from Spain, though he hasn’t expressed his opinion as far as I know). That’s why I don’t understand what the writer means with “his xenophobic Catalan electoral base”.

    -Wishing Catalonia’s independence doesn’t make you a xenophobe. You’ll find all kinds of people among the independence supporters, and there may be some racists, sure, but the vast majority are tolerant and progressive. There’s a tendency to link nationalism with xenophobia which isn’t always true, and definitely not in the case of Catalonia, an open-minded country which has always welcomed people from other places.

    • CuleToon
      July 20, 2013

      Hola Lanu, benvingut! Quina sorpresa, noi! Ja som tres o quatre con tu per aquí. No t’enfadis gens amb aquesta gent. Coneixen la història del Barça i de Catalunya molt més del què et pots imaginar (i molt més que molts, que massa catalans!). Fins i tot n’hi ha algun —crec que en Levon— que ha après Català (no sé si molt o poc). Si vols fer-te una idea molt millor de com veuen aquesta questió dels socis, et recomano aquest article amb les opinions una mica contraposades d’en blitzen i en Kxevin del desembre passat:


      Jo ja fa anys que segueixo aquest blog i et recomano que et donguis temps per anar coneixent una mica tothom: t’hi enganxaras. O això espero!

      Per cert, t’he vist per casualitat perquè la gent ja està centrada en el darrer article sobre els possibles candidats a substituir Tito. Si vols, presenta’t allà i tindras una bona venginguda. Aprecien molt poder comptar amb comentaris de gent d’aquí, sobre tot si és gent tirant cruyffista, laportista o guardiolista, o una combinació de dos o tres d’aquets «ismes».

      If anyone wants a translation of my words above, just ask!

      • Lanu
        July 21, 2013

        Ei CuleToon,

        Gràcies per la benvinguda! He arribat a aquest blog per casualitat, no sé ben bé com, però semple em sembla interessant veure com es veu el Barça des de fora, i sento admiració per gent que igual viu a l’altra punta del món i en sap tant del nostre club.

        No em considero un ‘-ista’ de cap mena (més enllà de barcelonista) però si haig d’escollir un dels tres que proposes, sens dubte guardiolista. A Cruyff li devem molt però no m’agrada la seva actitud d’anar donant lliçons des del sofà de casa, i en Laporta sempre m’ha semblat un personatge una mica impresentable, tot i que el Rosell i la seva junta han aconseguit que el recordi amb carinyo i en unes eleccions amb ells dos com a únics candidats no ho dubtaria.

        No sé si tinc prou disciplina com per seguir activament aquest (o cap altre) blog, però prometo fer una ullada de tant en tant!

        Salut i força Barça!

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