Catalunya v Argentina comments post

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  1. December 22, 2009

    Sorry about no liveblog, folks. I’ve got plans for this afternoon starting in a few minutes, but I’ll be keeping an eye on the first half of this match.

  2. ooga aga
    December 22, 2009

    puyol, ??, pique, bruno

    xavi, busquets, capdevilla

    bojan, navarro, sergio garcia

    • ooga aga
      December 22, 2009

      lopo is the one i’m missing therre.

  3. December 22, 2009

    Backline will be Bruno, Puyol, Capedevila (as a CB), and Oleguer (!!!)

    Pique will be in the midfield with Xavi and Soggy Biscuits as per Sport.

    Bojan, Verdu, and Sergio Garcia up top.

  4. ooga aga
    December 22, 2009

    yeah i messed up on the lineup….i was misled….sorry.

    • December 23, 2009

      Hell yes! I have my Obama and Ronaldinho caganers, purchased at the Fira de Santa Llucia last year. 😀

  5. fcbfan
    December 22, 2009

    hehe I got left behind in the last thread. anyway, anyone miss Oleguer?

  6. ooga aga
    December 22, 2009

    catalunya dominating so far…possession and even into the box a couple times

  7. Jnice
    December 22, 2009

    Pique looks better in mid than TXigrinski did yesterday, but that’s to be expected.

      • Jnice
        December 22, 2009

        Damn, that skill by Xavi was so nice.

        And yeah, you never know, Pique could be…

      • cliveee
        December 22, 2009

        Pique should be the first choice. He is capable of going up and drifting back, a tower of both offense and defense.

    • December 22, 2009

      Seeing Pique leading a counterattack is a thing of beauty 😀 .

  8. jordi
    December 22, 2009

    Pique can even be a 9 😀 Best 5 million pounds we’ve spent.

  9. Colin
    December 22, 2009

    Remember the controversy a few years back when Marca claimed Xavi and Puyol were rolling their socks to hide the Spanish-flag colored trim?

    No sock rolling today. Trim looks sweet.

  10. December 22, 2009

    Really impressed by some of Pastore’s flashes (although he has been inconsistent). I loved that kid at Huracan

    • December 22, 2009

      In-and-out of the match, almost as if it’s a friendly they don’t particularly care about. Valdes has been on fire.

      Pique is looking wonderful at DM, but doesn’t have the fluidity that Yaya or even Busi have there.


    • Jnice
      December 22, 2009

      Puyol has been burned a couple of times, but otherwise he is fine. Pique and Busquets have looked good in the midfield, especially Pique with his passing.

      Bojan has been trying hard, but no success so far.

      Valdes has been Valdes.

  11. Colin
    December 22, 2009

    This is the best Argentina have looked under Maradona

    • December 22, 2009

      Oh definitely, I was just thinking something similar.

      Maybe Maradona shouldn’t be allowed on the bench more often?

  12. December 22, 2009

    GOAL!!!! Catalunya!

    GREAT cross field pass from our very own Cuddly Toy to a wide open Verdu who crossed into a box crashing Sergio Garcia to head in.

  13. Jnice
    December 22, 2009

    I’ve always thought Sergio Garcia was a skillful little player. Weren’t we linked to him once?

    • jordi
      December 22, 2009

      I always thought he was promising but he didnt make it here.Maybe its a good thing though, every club he’s been to has gone down.

    • December 22, 2009

      He’s from our cantera. He played here but couldn’t break into the first team. 😀

  14. Kxevin
    December 22, 2009

    Lovely goal, eh? Nice work from CT. T’would be great if he started coming into his own right about now. We sure are going to need him, I suspect.

  15. Vj
    December 22, 2009

    have a fracking xam tomorrow.. can anyone give a match summary?

  16. Kari
    December 22, 2009

    Very entertaining match so far. Nice goal by Sergio Garcia, but how about that cross field pass by Bojan? I don’t know why, maybe it’s nationalism, but he always tears it up when playing for Catalunya.

    The a$$-kissing the commentators on Goltv are giving Higuain, especially Lindsay Dean, has been kinda annoying, but overall, Catalunya has owned them, especially possession (maybe because they have Xavi…just maybe 😀 )

  17. December 22, 2009

    1-0 Catalunya

    That said, I actually think Argentina had much better chances. Valdes committed a sure fire uncalled penalty on Di Maria after muffing a save and Higuain has missed 2 or 3 guilt-edged chances.

    All the Catalans seem to be teeing off on Higuain. In part because he is dangerous as hell and killing the Catalan defenders in one on one but you just get the feeling that the Madridista aspect has something to do with it. He also gets booed every time he touches it.

    Pastore went from very inconsistent to bad ass. I love that kid but he is not doing too good at Palermo this season. He will be a good one if he gets to the right team. The Argy counterattacks with the pace of Lavezzi, Pipita, Pastore, and Di Maria are pretty to watch. If only Diego would tactically exploit that devastating pace more often. Bollatti >> Gago too. Graceful player.

    Papa (the Argy right FB) has been owned by Bruno Saltor. Pique is the shit but we already knew that.

    • December 22, 2009

      Correction- Papa is the LEFT FB who has been owned by Bruno Saltor.

      We’ve had some very good possessions and our midfield has been good. The actual end product has been slightly lacking given the possession though. Sergio Garcia has muffed some very good chances despite his goal.I think Argentina have more shots on goal by some amount despite less possession. The Argy counters are fun to watch but like someone once said: Scoreboard.

  18. jordi
    December 22, 2009

    Still think Argentina should call up Walter Samuel.

    • December 22, 2009

      YES! Diego apparently hates Inter players given his constant snubbing of Cambiasso as well.

  19. jordi
    December 22, 2009

    I also think it was smooth of us to keep Messi out of Maradona’s paws, just as hes starting to recover from previous assaults

  20. December 22, 2009

    Yup. 5-3 Goal opportunities in favor of the Argies despite the possession difference. Oleguer and Saltor have to watch their incursions because Lavezzi and Di Maria are greyhounds in the open field.

  21. Kxevin
    December 22, 2009

    Recall that Saltor was almost ours, then something happened.

  22. Vj
    December 22, 2009

    thanks all.. Maradona isn’t there is he?

  23. Kxevin
    December 22, 2009

    Ya know, Catalunya kinda looks like us in the movement and ball movement.

  24. Kxevin
    December 22, 2009

    Shit! Nice from CT! I take back everything I said. Why can’t he play like that for us????

    • jordi
      December 22, 2009

      I think he gets nervous playing for us for some reason 🙁

  25. Kxevin
    December 22, 2009

    And Xavi’s off. Whew! Get that man some rest.

  26. December 22, 2009

    Xavi off for Sergio Gonzalez. Thank goodness he’s off.

    DeMichelis got owned on the Bojan goal.

  27. Helge
    December 22, 2009

    Holy fuckin’ shit! Bojan scored a Messi-like goal there 😀

    Hope this gives him confidence for Barca!

  28. OhYes
    December 22, 2009

    From what I’ve seen (40 seconds) I can already tell Higuain is gonna score a goal. 😐

    Also, I like this kit. It’s pretty retro looking without going too far. It has a certain amount of class, too.

    Nice move by Bojan to get us a corner.

  29. OhYes
    December 22, 2009

    WOW !! That crowd and those flags! so pimp

  30. December 22, 2009

    There’s my boy Pastore!

    GREAT goal and well deserved after a good game.

  31. OhYes
    December 22, 2009

    Oops I was wrong! higuain coming out

  32. December 22, 2009

    Pipita lustily booed as he is subbed off for Palermo.

    FEEL the hate, Pipita! FEEL it!

  33. Kxevin
    December 22, 2009

    CT took a hard challenge, and was trying to walk it off as he was behind their goal. This is my problem with friendlies. They often aren’t.

  34. OhYes
    December 22, 2009

    Lol someone on the chat is saying “It’s Messi’s fault that he doesn’t run haha.. now who are they going to blame?”

    Goal by Di Maria

  35. December 22, 2009

    3-2. Di Maria FINALLY scored after a stupid giveaway, Great pass by Lavezzi.

  36. December 22, 2009

    Ooohhh. Eduardo Salvio. This should be interesting. Good talent this one.

  37. jordi
    December 22, 2009

    Yea, Argentina should defo call up The WALL

    Also a real madrid product came on for Valdes 😀

  38. Helge
    December 22, 2009

    Great match to watch. It’s fun and very entertaining.

    I suppose (and also hope) this is not Argentina’s best defense… they’ll definitely have to improve massively if they want to be a serious title contender next summer. Offensively they look sharper than before, with a solid defence they might have something to say in South Africa.

  39. Jnice
    December 22, 2009

    Wow, that kick should have resulted in a red.

  40. OhYes
    December 22, 2009

    Well it’s over.. 4-2! I was watching the chat on and everyone was saying that getting beat by Catalunya was like losing to Hawaii lol! They are south american fans so I don’t know if they really understand Xavi and co. but it really pained them to lose today even though it’s a friendly

  41. jordi
    December 22, 2009

    Atleast Messi cant get them blame today

  42. cliveee
    December 22, 2009

    did Sergi Biscuits wear the holy number 10 for Catalunya?!

    • Jnice
      December 23, 2009

      Yeah, he did. He had a good game, too.

  43. jordi
    December 22, 2009

    Wait, i didnt even notice Palermo came on as a sub in the second half.I see him at all.

  44. Kxevin
    December 22, 2009

    In the “too good to be true” category, Fabiano is out for Sevilla for almost all of January. But it was in Sport, so who knows. Ankle injury.

  45. December 22, 2009

    Yeah, I saw that on Sport. IF its true and both him and Kanoute (at the ACN) are out then that will help a hell of a lot. Alas, they still have Negredo who is by no means a slouch.

  46. Phil
    December 23, 2009

    For anyone who was putting any sort of serious consideration of the Robinho rumors – Mancini has said that Robinho is a big part of his plans for the next year. Never believed the rumors myself, and you never know with these things, but it doesn’t seem likely.

  47. December 23, 2009

    Can I just say that, despite the fact that my colleague Kxevin hates them, I love the Catalunya jerseys. They’re amazing and so is Valdes’ home keeper kit.

  48. Reaper
    December 23, 2009

    Is it just me or does Angel Di Maria look like a prospective answer to our supposed problems on the left wing? The guy can cross a ball like a ringin a bell as Chuck Berry famously said.

  49. Lumi
    December 23, 2009

    I think one of Cryuff’s advantage over Diego in this game is that the former has an idea of the laters capability while the later knows little or nothing about the former and most importantly El Pibe D’oro has no Class Against The flying Dutchman

    • Helge
      December 23, 2009

      I would love to see Cruijff as the national coach of Argentina!
      It would turn Argentina from a quarter-final contender to a serious title contender. And I’m sure Cruijff would finally call up players such as Cambiasso, Samuel, Zanetti. Maybe he could even convince Riquelme to return… damn, that would be too sweet to be true.

  50. fcbfan
    December 23, 2009

    the election is making me nervous.

    • Kxevin
      December 23, 2009

      Post coming on that. Jaume Ferrer officially announced yesterday, but he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell against Sandro Rosell. I don’t think anybody does, unless Messi decided to hang up the boots and run for the presidency.

      Rexach is considering a run, and what about Alfons Godall?

      Laporta hasn’t really come out in overt favor of anyone, and that’s a complex situation, because like the Bill Clinton factor (for you folks familiar with American politica), he’s popular as hell, but not that well liked by many, many people.

      Obviously, coming off the most successful period in the club’s history EVER, any censure votes drummed up by Giralt et al, would probably have a very different result, yes?

      Guardiola is also rumored to be watching the elections. What he doesn’t want (and I don’t blame him) is a president and board that will not support him or his program. Don’t forget that he’s Laporta’s choice, irrespective of the immense success that he’s enjoyed at the helm of our beloved club. Power-drunk men make stupid-ass decisions sometimes. This might have something to do with this talk of Guardiola taking a break at the end of this season, assuming there is a shard of truth to the rumor. I think that his reaction at the end of the Club World Cup match might be some indication of the intensity with which he experiences things.

      So stay tuned. There’s also the vacation post looming, now that I will have time to work on it.

  51. Kxevin
    December 23, 2009

    And for you Formula One fans, the Michael Schumacher/Ross Brawn partnership has been revived, as the German driver announced that he’s returning to F1 to drive for Mercedes.

  52. cliveee
    December 23, 2009

    The first goal from Argentina is wonderful, but to me, it wasn’t that unsaveable. I am the next biggest fan of Valdes, but I think he could do better than that. I can easily image Casillas saving that volley. Did that reflect the overall quality of him? He sort of reactive on his feet, but no follow-thru on his upper body. I don’t understand.

    • cliveee
      December 23, 2009

      How can I forget the second goal he conceded?! He saved just SO MANY of those shots last season, why!?

      • Kxevin
        December 23, 2009

        I don’t think anybody was on their best game yesterday, cliveee. No way that a real defense lets Krkic score that goal that he nabbed yesterday.

        • December 23, 2009

          Agreed, they kind of let him waltz into the box and score. Looked cool on Bojan though.

          Also, I know this has been said before, but why doesn’t Maradona have Argentenia play a 4-3-3 with a front line of Teves – Aguero – Messi. They need as much back line help as possible and I think that could be a deadly trio up front.

          • OhYes
            December 23, 2009

            He’s had that before but you have to keep in mind that this is Maradona we’re talking about. It’s not just a formation issue, there are more things to consider.

          • Eklavya
            December 23, 2009

            I think a Higuain–Milito–Messi line is better!

      • cliveee
        December 23, 2009

        per…perhaps..perhaps.. I AM TOO SERIOUS ABOUT VICTOR! 🙂
        Love seeing Cuddy Toy Bojan score like a real man even Demichelis was really toying with him.

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