Spanish Super Cup Second Leg Match Comments

We start this one with the narrowest of leads, taking home a 3-2 win at… well home. Yours truly is busy with life this afternoon, so you’ll all have to laugh, cry, complain, and sell Vj right here in the comments. Here’s to a match with no injuries.

Starting XI: Valdes, Alves, Pique, Mascherano, Adriano, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Sanchez, Messi

Bench: Pinto, Bartra, Alba, Song, Cesc, Villa, Tello

Eternal Enemy XI: Casillas, Pepe, Sergio Ramos, Khedira, C.Ronaldo, Özil, Marcelo, Alonso, Arbeloa, Higuaín, Di María

 

The match starts at 22:30 Barcelona time / 4:30 PM EST

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  1. Lev
    August 29, 2012

    Thnx Blitz, Josep and Barçapanda for the links…gonna try to watch a stream from work though, jejeje

  2. nzm
    August 29, 2012

    Both sides complaining about the low pressure in the balls during warm-up. Weird.

    • August 29, 2012

      It’s a trick other teams have played before, but it’s funny that RM are complaining about it too. And how long is the grass?

      • nzm
        August 29, 2012

        It’s not bad – judging from the pre-match reports that we saw about an hour ago. I doubt that it’s going to be watered, though!

    • lea_terzi
      August 29, 2012

      Air pressure affects passing and shooting, but especially long passing and shots from distance, so TB and Xabi Alonso must be unhappy 🙂

    • mom4
      August 29, 2012

      Give ’em all cards and two match bans for complaining! ALl of ’em!

  3. August 29, 2012

    I leave work just as the game kicks off. *sigh* Going to be a long trip home.

  4. August 29, 2012

    ESPN3, for those who have access.

    Afellay close to a transfer. Player seems to prefer Schalke, but Spurs are still in the mix. That’s transfer, not loan.

    • nzm
      August 29, 2012

      He’s cutting his losses. New start. Probably sick of it all and the pressure of trying to broker a deal while trying to stay.

      Still feel really sorry for the guy, and wish him nothing but success.

      Guess the club didn’t want 3 more players out on loan, and the short-straw was given to the non-Masia player.

    • August 29, 2012

      You didn’t read the post, did you? Calvin is busy, so you can sell Vj here instead.

      • xavi_purrnandez
        August 29, 2012

        he’s due around Xmas (we lost one…)
        and he always kicks like crazy when Barça plays, so he’s obviously very intelligent.

        • mom4
          August 29, 2012

          So sorry for the loss. Good luck with the little one.

        • nzm
          August 29, 2012

          Sorry to hear that, xavi_purr.

          All strength to you.

  5. xavi_purrnandez
    August 29, 2012

    *blush* i thought i read it. :S i blame baby brain.

    Visca el Barça!!!!!

  6. ciaran
    August 29, 2012

    Alba playing at right back as Alves seems to have picked up a knock.
    Montoya on the bench

    • mom4
      August 29, 2012

      Always vs. THEM.Never a chance of a conflict of colors.

  7. mom4
    August 29, 2012

    Tito looks better in a black polo than Mou.

  8. August 29, 2012

    What happened to Alves? Last min sub? What the?!

  9. lea_terzi
    August 29, 2012

    No Alves. Just when everything was going so well 🙂

  10. mom4
    August 29, 2012

    Wait…Alba on left Adriano on right?

  11. ciaran
    August 29, 2012

    Alves had discomfort in his leg. Sounds precautionary

  12. mom4
    August 29, 2012

    It’s been soooooo long since Adriano played RB. Are they gonna attack that side all night?

  13. Jim
    August 29, 2012

    Two mistakes, a yellow card and we’re only 13 minutes in. Anybody still think he’s a CB ?

    Alexis still diving . . . . Sigh.

    • Messiah10
      August 29, 2012

      1 mistake by Masch doesn’t prove your point that he’s not a good CB. It proves he’s human. 1st time Masch has really screwed the pooch for us.

      • Messiah10
        August 29, 2012

        What about Pique? Is he not a CB?

    • August 29, 2012

      Yes. Mascherano makes errors just like Pique and Puyol. It happens. He is playing where we need him. Is he a natural CB? No, but he’s learning fast, and is better than anyone we have in place of Puyol.

      • Jim
        August 29, 2012

        Agreed in the last comment and as I’ve said before he will learn and will improve but can we now stop the Masch worship that has been going on for a season? He has made a number of crucial mistakes in games yet escapes censure because he makes a couple of meaty challenges yet Pique has been villified for the best part of a season. Long term Masch isn’t the answer there imo.

      • _Lily
        August 29, 2012

        I think that was true last year, but this year Pique seems to have recovered his form and is better than Mascherano. An in-form Pique always had something on Mascherano – he just spent last season not in-form.

  14. Messiah10
    August 29, 2012

    Wow, if Alexis would spend less time worrying about drawing a penalty and diving and more time staying on his feet and playing strong he might actually draw a penalty! Tito, please BENCH him for diving!

    • icemel
      August 29, 2012

      Yep. Pissed me off more than the 2 goals. Fro every petulant rag-doll doll flop , the footy-gods must deduct a goal. we’ll need those goals later this season. Step up like the rest of the midgets.

  15. lea_terzi
    August 29, 2012

    Am I the only one worried about playing without real lateral defenders (Adriano playing on the wrong side and Alba being new and, well, short) against Real’s wings?

    • Jim
      August 29, 2012

      It’s not ideal, admittedly, but their chances have come through the centre.

      Just as well VV is playing out of his skin.

      • lea_terzi
        August 29, 2012

        Because Masche was covering the wings and Pique has no pace…

        • Jim
          August 29, 2012

          Masch is covering Higuain and he has had three clear chances down to Masch’s mistakes. Count CR7s goal against Pique if you like but that was supreme skill. Pique had made contact with the ball to put it behind him and he produced a wonderful flick.

  16. Helge
    August 29, 2012

    omg, this could be the most stupid and unnecessary trophy loss ever!

    • hansh
      August 29, 2012

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh Messi this is why we watch. That was beautiful!

  17. nia
    August 29, 2012

    WTF, seriously boys VAMOS!!!! WE ONLY NEED 2 NOW.

  18. elacule
    August 29, 2012

    i’m not sure i can watch after the 2nd goal from EE.

  19. Messiah10
    August 29, 2012

    We can still pull this out. I’m not worried yet. If we can hold them until halftime and maybe steal a goal before halftime we can do this. Visca BARCA

  20. lea_terzi
    August 29, 2012

    Makeshift defense is makeshift.

  21. Jafri
    August 29, 2012

    Their pressing and pressure is ridiculous!

  22. Kimcelona
    August 29, 2012

    Is this really Barca playing?
    Makeshift defense is REALLY makeshift.

  23. TITO
    August 29, 2012

    Ok, i just got into the game and we are already 2 down??? And playing bad, bad, bad…can’t really understand why we just dont play our game.

  24. Jafri
    August 29, 2012

    CAN WE PLEASE GET THE BALL INTO THEIR HALF?!

  25. TITO
    August 29, 2012

    This is not US against THEM, this is SOMEONE ELSE against THEM!

  26. elacule
    August 29, 2012

    2 goals down and now a Adriano with a red card.
    wow. didn’t predict this.

    i bet Puyol is really wanting to get on the field.

  27. Messiah10
    August 29, 2012

    Let’s try to stop a MANITA. That should be our goal now.

  28. Messiah10
    August 29, 2012

    Los Blancos supporters have been waiting for a day like this. Their feeling like we have for the past 4 years. Imagine that. “sigh”

  29. Kimcelona
    August 29, 2012

    What defense? Everyone is running up and down like headless chickens.
    Oh and Alexis is on the ground.

  30. jordi™
    August 29, 2012

    Well its a good thing we didnt sell alves.

  31. BarcaRoja
    August 29, 2012

    What the…. are we in an alternate universe?

  32. Messiah10
    August 29, 2012

    Yeah. Alexis gone! Thank god. I’m sick of his diving. Montoya to get valuable minutes. I like what Tito has done!

  33. Blau-Grenade
    August 29, 2012

    The only reason score is not 4 0 is because of Valdes.

    • Blau-Grenade
      August 29, 2012

      I am not liking Alexis anymore. I think after tonight, he will know where he stands.

  34. Messiah10
    August 29, 2012

    Wow. How Higuan didn’t score there I’ll never know. Oh yeah I do. Masch!

    • mom4
      August 29, 2012

      Yes, Jim, I do still think Masche is a CB.

      • Messiah10
        August 29, 2012

        We do the Masch. The Monster Masch. We do the Masch. It’s a great on Smash.

      • Jim
        August 29, 2012

        Are we not counting the fact that he was caught out of position which caused the chance in the first place then? Have a look.

  35. Jafri
    August 29, 2012

    Valdes with a boot upfield… What an unmitigated disaster of a match.

  36. Judas Pissed
    August 29, 2012

    Mickey Mouse cup anyway 🙂

  37. jordi™
    August 29, 2012

    I also cant believe we keep letting Cristiano score garbage goals against us. He hit it directly at VV.It was a reasonably strong shot but still.

    • Jim
      August 29, 2012

      That bit of it was just down to luck. VV did everything he could but I know what you mean.

    • G6O
      August 29, 2012

      Worse than that – Pique would have cleared it had it gotten past VV but it got deflected…

      • Helge
        August 29, 2012

        Just saw the goal on youtube… I’m speechless.

        We literally gift this cup to Real Madrid. Which is per se not that important, but it gives them 74-72 trophies, 88-87(or 86) wins in all Clasicos, and most importantly, it gives them self-confidence for the next la Liga matches :-/

        • _Lily
          August 29, 2012

          I actually think it’s a bit of a mixed bag. Yes, this might give them some confidence… but it could also give them arrogance. “We beat the mighty Barcelona for a trophy!” They might make them overconfident. If they hadn’t won, it could have hurt their game, or given them more motivation to push. It’s hard to say.

          As long as we win the Liga and they don’t win the CL, I’m not complaining about them getting the Supercup.

  38. Messiah10
    August 29, 2012

    The ESPN3 Deportes feed is so much better than the ESPN3 English feed. The English 1 is so fuzzy! Ridiculous.

  39. lea_terzi
    August 29, 2012

    Nights like this is when real fans are made! Support the team in sickness and health 🙂

  40. TITO
    August 29, 2012

    We have to go at Arbeloa or Pepe for a second yellow.

    • G6O
      August 29, 2012

      Absolutely – there isn’t a team in the world whose game suffers more than ours does being a man down…

  41. elacule
    August 29, 2012

    So happy for Messi’s goal! so glad i turned it back on (but with the volume down)

    visca el Barça!

  42. TITO
    August 29, 2012

    Messi!!!!!
    Are we HUMANS, or are we DANCERS….

  43. lea_terzi
    August 29, 2012

    Messiah10, you called it, right? Hold on until half time and sneak in a goal before the break? 🙂 D10S!

    • Messiah10
      August 29, 2012

      Thanks. I thought they scored their 3rd right after I said it. Thank god a foul was called.

  44. Tarik
    August 29, 2012

    If Messi could just stay visible for the next 48 minutes or so…after that goal…it’d really be grand.

    I sense a 10-man Barca winning the trophy to be extra satisfying. If only…

    Also, holy crap at that Ronaldo effort near the half. What a monster.

  45. Messiah10
    August 29, 2012

    Please do NOT give Thong Boy that much space. He’s dying to answer Messi now.

  46. Jafri
    August 29, 2012

    My heart can’t take these kind of matches!

  47. Srini
    August 29, 2012

    As they say, never doubt the heart of a champion. What a response by La Pulga. Even in a moment of strife, it is always good to see Ikerface, right, blitzen?

    We may be down to 10 men and we may be down to a wish, a prayer, and some Pique/Masch and inexperience in defense. But we still have Lionel Messi.

    The script is yet to be fully written in this game.

  48. August 29, 2012

    For anyone inclined to question Valdes, and people on the Twitters are going nuts over the Messi goal right now, the score would be 5 or 6-1 if not for Valdes. Messi got one back. I like that. Nice of him to show up late in the half.

    • Messiah10
      August 29, 2012

      A bit unfair. I’d say everyone was missing. The intensity wasn’t there to deal with the high pressure. We were just giving the ball away and being soft. I know what your saying though. I think he was isolated quite a bit because the midfield couldn’t get past the middle of the field to get him the ball.

    • G6O
      August 29, 2012

      VV is having a great game, fortunately.

      But this game shows you how faithful a mere 20 seconds can be – we could have been up 4-1, instead we miss a sitter, than VV has a brain fart and it’s 3-2 instead coming into this game

      Then Puyol gets injured, and then Alves gets injured just before the game (worst time possible as it leaves no time for preparations) and all of a sudden we’re horribly exposed at the back. And a series of brain farts from both Mascherano and Pique follows and we’re lucky not to be down by 5…

      • Messiah10
        August 29, 2012

        Great point above. A series of events can unfold fortunately or unfortunately. We were on the wrong end of this karma, but we still have a shot and that’s the miracle of this team. Always a chance with us!

  49. lea_terzi
    August 29, 2012

    Thanks Valdes for standing 10 meters tall, Messi for THAT flash of brilliance, and Mordor for atrocious finishing. No manita. Yet.

  50. August 29, 2012

    All we need is another goal and not concede. The key is to keep the ball and attack methodically. No point in rushing at their goal since there are more chances of us conceding possession against 11 men.

    • lea_terzi
      August 29, 2012

      Another goal and not concede… Also, world peace, men on Mars and a puppy for everyone. Pretty please, God?
      But totally rooting for us to win against all ods 🙂

      • nzm
        August 29, 2012

        Don’t forget the unicorns and rainbows. 😀

        • mom4
          August 29, 2012

          Chocolate, don’t forget chocolate.

          • lea_terzi
            August 29, 2012

            I’m stocking up. Will need it to restore heart activity after tonight 🙂

        • Messiah10
          August 29, 2012

          why not be greedy and have a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?! 🙂

    • G6O
      August 29, 2012

      Not conceding will be very very with this defense…

  51. Kimcelona
    August 29, 2012

    This team is going to be the DEATH of me. I am serious.

    Messiah with a scorcher. I love him. Like seriously.

    Do we still have a chance?

  52. hansh
    August 29, 2012

    So, odds that Puyi gets subbed on in the second half?

    • lea_terzi
      August 29, 2012

      Not on the bench. When I saw both him and Alves missing from a Classico.. heart attack started. Still ongoing 🙂

      • Messiah10
        August 29, 2012

        What’s your address? I’ll call a EMS van to be on stand by for you! 🙂

    • Jim
      August 29, 2012

      I’m guessing the medics wouldn’t be happy or he might have started.

    • hansh
      August 29, 2012

      Ach, I need to pay attention to our bench list. Thanks lea_terzi and nzm.

  53. nzm
    August 29, 2012

    The way I see it is that the back-line is under immense pressure because Madrid is going over the top of our mid-field which is unable to defend the high balls.

    Doesn’t help that Busquets also seems to be AWOL. He and Xavi are standing too close for any movement to happen.

    Madrid is playing an aerial game which our hobbits are finding difficult to compete with.

    • ciaran
      August 29, 2012

      You suggest subbing on Song for a might mite?

    • Blau-Grenade
      August 29, 2012

      Cesc for Pedro makes sense to shore up the midfield.

  54. Helge
    August 29, 2012

    If it wasn’t for the red card of Adrinano, I would be quite positive about the 2nd half.

    All in all, this imo is an absolutely unacceptable performance (for a Clasico), a Drogba’esque disgrace…

    • G6O
      August 29, 2012

      We’ve started bad against them before too. We just never managed to get ourselves down by 2 and down a man. You can see that they started playing much better after the 30th minute, but it’s probably too late at this point 🙁

  55. Srini
    August 29, 2012

    After a shambolic defensive display in the first half, what I want is just some heart and no injuries the rest of the way. A victory will be an icing on the cake. The Supercopa isn’t so important. If Barca hold on to not concede a goal in this half, it will be a victory in itself. If it scores, it will be an icing.

    Much expectations, but low expectations.

  56. olbucky
    August 29, 2012

    Without a doubt the worst 25 minutes I’ve seen this team play since before Pep took over. Just plain disorganized. It looked like we were playing against Barca. Once we were down to 10 men things started to settle down. I think Madrid started to tire and we began to play our game. Look for more of this in the second half. Tito should have done more to stop the bleeding. Lesson learned. Hopefully it won’t have cost us the cup. I don’t care how minor it is, it’s a trophy over EE and that prick Mourinho and everything that he and unholy that he is.

  57. Kimcelona
    August 29, 2012

    I don’t think we are gonna win this cup..as long as we dont get embarrassed.

  58. rohitv16
    August 29, 2012

    Nice test of character this for the boys with Tito at the helm… Win or lose doesnt matter as long as we dont end up being as bad at the back as we looked for most of the first half. I felt we looked better after going down to 10 men…

  59. genesfut
    August 29, 2012

    Relax good people. We are in this with a shout. Shocking defending courtesy of titos failure to replace alves with Montoya ( who is being super harassed by Ronaldo). Damn

  60. Xavi6
    August 29, 2012

    The positioning of our FBs is catastrophic

  61. lea_terzi
    August 29, 2012

    C’mon, it’s Madrid, they haven’t won a game in a while, they are hungrier than a great white shark… And us with the chupacabra defense? Don’t blame the guys. Too much.

  62. ooga aga
    August 29, 2012

    so does away goals rule apply to this thing?

    • jordi™
      August 29, 2012

      yes, so we need at least another.

  63. jordi™
    August 29, 2012

    Well it will be a miracle if we dont concede again but as long as we keep scoring we might steal it.

  64. ooga aga
    August 29, 2012

    so looks like alves was slated to start, with adriano on left, but he had a tweaked left thigh, so they moved adriano to right and put alba on left. but alves held out “as precaution” so hopefully it’s not too bad.

  65. jordi™
    August 29, 2012

    Its annoying because thanks to Mou pressure referees have been afraid to give early reds to them in the clasicos. Think Lass last year. It doesn’t help that Adriano wasn’t subtle at all though.

  66. TITO
    August 29, 2012

    A gifted goal, a mistake, or a penalty would be nice.

  67. Ahmad
    August 29, 2012

    If we could just score one more goal we’re going to be very safe.

    • lea_terzi
      August 29, 2012

      Safe like an antilope in the tiger cage 🙂 But I would take a goal, definitely!

  68. August 29, 2012

    A Messi’s dribble goal a la the famous Bernabeu CL second goal would warm my heart right now 😀

    • lea_terzi
      August 29, 2012

      Any kind would do, really 😀 by any player, with any body part, as long as it’s blaugrana!

      • hansh
        August 29, 2012

        I’ll take an own goal from Los Blancos too!

    • lea_terzi
      August 29, 2012

      Although if we’re being choosy, I’d take a Villa curler in overtime!

  69. mom4
    August 29, 2012

    Looks like they may play Modric. Still say he looks a little like Monte Python’s Prince Herbert

  70. simple_barcafan
    August 29, 2012

    PEDRO!! how did u miss that!! 🙁

  71. lea_terzi
    August 29, 2012

    Tw Rio Ferdinand (Man United): “Wow, Pedro’s touch + shot just then was simply breathtaking….keep ball with 10men Barca are playing!”
    Still wowing the crowd, warms the heart 🙂

  72. hansh
    August 29, 2012

    ESPN3 commentators suggesting that Cesc come on for Busquets. Our defense is far too shaky anyway, I don’t want Busi’s stabilizing presence gone!

  73. mom4
    August 29, 2012

    We are playing well now. It’s good to see. So at least there’s that.

    • lea_terzi
      August 29, 2012

      Time to experiment? If Tito says so…

  74. Dani_el
    August 29, 2012

    This is the kind of ref Mou enjoys. Tito was right in his presser before the game. Nice runs from Pedro, kinda like Montoya over there. An off game for Busi, Song and Tello warming up. Tello would be great, but who would you take out?

  75. August 29, 2012

    I think the Higher Being wants us to win this through a goal around 80 minutes or close to the end, so RM has no chance of coming back 😉

    Song is in!

  76. Blau-Grenade
    August 29, 2012

    Song is looking really good. Reminds me of the Yaya.

  77. lea_terzi
    August 29, 2012

    Song looks like he can’t hold position to save his life, but great on-ball defense and so much power! Glad to see the new gladiator on the field 🙂

  78. icemel
    August 29, 2012

    Masch has some get out of jail free cards with the footy gods

    • lea_terzi
      August 29, 2012

      He and Higuain are teammates for Argentina. I think Pipita subconsciously doesn’t want to make him look inept.

  79. August 29, 2012

    Dear Barca,

    I want to live till 100. So stop f*cking this up.

    Thanks,
    ME

  80. lea_terzi
    August 29, 2012

    If Real somehow lose this.. Pipita is the likely scapegoat

  81. icemel
    August 29, 2012

    Corner On Song’s head for the winning goal and we never disparage those dyed locks again.

  82. icemel
    August 29, 2012

    Having a conversion experience. I’ll enjoy 5 Classico’s a year…and I like the new kits.

  83. Kimcelona
    August 29, 2012

    Wow. Atleast it wasnt a hammering. Second half much improved but not enough. Especially difficult with 10 men.

  84. hansh
    August 29, 2012

    Luka Modric coming on! I really like him, bummed he’s playing for Madrid. He’s fun to watch.

  85. elacule
    August 29, 2012

    has anyone noticed possession stats for the 2nd half?
    these Barça guys are so strong and brave. i love them so much.

  86. Kimcelona
    August 29, 2012

    Great character from Barca. I cant fault them that.

  87. Dani_el
    August 29, 2012

    My god Valdes, if we didn’t get a manita was in big part thanks to you. Posession 50-50, even with 10 men.

  88. mom4
    August 29, 2012

    We’ve responded well whatever happens…Valdes has silenced some critics…AND…Tito does look better in a black polo than Mou.

  89. nia
    August 29, 2012

    On the bright side, we could have lost 5-1

  90. jordi™
    August 29, 2012

    Honestly we might have had a better chance making it 3-2 with 11 men than 2-2 with 10. Dominating with 10 men and we fought. Didnt get a shred of luck in this game.

    • dean
      August 29, 2012

      While Valdes made some quality saves, he did get lucky with very poor shots on a bunch

  91. Dani_el
    August 29, 2012

    what a pass from song! Oh messi! I freaking love this team

  92. TITO
    August 29, 2012

    This was our game, especially this second half, cant believe that we didnt at least took one chance. The tie was lost in the first round.

  93. Blau-Grenade
    August 29, 2012

    So proud of this team. No words.

  94. Dani_el
    August 29, 2012

    Well that’s it. We fought like lions. Could make it this time. That’s all right.

  95. Kimcelona
    August 29, 2012

    I love this team though. The character shown was outstanding. We had Madrid wimpering at the end. Onwards and upwards 🙂

    • G6O
      August 29, 2012

      They had about 5 one-on-ones in the last 20 minutes – that’s not exactly us dominating the game

      • Kimcelona
        August 29, 2012

        Really, thats not the point. We had TEN men and still had them in their own half for majority of the second half where we were whiskers away from retaining the trophy.

  96. August 29, 2012

    Oh look, we shake hands and stay on the pitch.
    I love this team. Playing with 10 men and came so close <3

  97. Helge
    August 29, 2012

    Still, considering both matches and the absolutely horrendous errors we have made, you cannot (or at least should not) be happy about this Supercup.
    Luckily, it was only the Supercup…

  98. Humphrey Bogart
    August 29, 2012

    at the end VV howler proved costly, w/o we would have won the pot, but more importantly we did help them back in their stride

      • G6O
        August 29, 2012

        He wouldn’t have had to do it had it not been 3-2

      • jordi™
        August 29, 2012

        He just means the extra away goal was costly.In a way if it had happened early like this game we might have still made it 4-2 but it was so late we couldnt do anything about it.

        • August 29, 2012

          With hindsight, we can say that. But RM had 11 against us 10 for most of the game, so anything could happen irrespective of the result at the Camp Nou.

          • jordi™
            August 29, 2012

            Well its not an attack on Valdes or saying he didnt do well today.Its just a fact that when its a 2 legged tie away goals knock you out.I would say the same if Xavi passed the ball too hard from midfield directly into our own goal

    • lea_terzi
      August 29, 2012

      Valdes repaid for that a dozen times over, I think

    • Helge
      August 29, 2012

      No, it were simply too many howlers in both legs, from players like Valdes, Mascherano, Pique, Busquets, to win a k.o. round against an out-of-form, but still individually good Real Madrid.

      Even today they did not really shoot a goal made from brilliant play or something, it was all down to our mistakes!

  99. TITO
    August 29, 2012

    Well, i liked Song, he did more in 10 minutes than Busi did for 80. You cant expect to have a good game when your entire midfield is asleep for 90 minutes.

  100. mangut
    August 29, 2012

    Was pretty convinced the last goal at the Camp Nou would come back to make all the difference and it did. VV came through big time today. Was Sanchez missed at all?! Song is going to contribute and help rest and push Busquets. A man gut is better than manboobs.

    • mom4
      August 29, 2012

      Tito needs to sit Sanchez’s butt for a good long time. Adriano should never have started where he did.

      Ugly looking cup anyway.

      • G6O
        August 29, 2012

        Sanchez’ form is a huge problem – last year he was instrumental in the win at the Bernabeu and I am sure he is a main component of our strategy for beating EE this year too. However we has not been a threat at all since the beginning of the season 🙁

        • TITO
          August 29, 2012

          That’s the strange thing, cause he was maybe our best player in the preseason, but suddenly he just dropped his form.

    • G6O
      August 29, 2012

      I had that suspicion too. Too bad it turned out to be correct…

  101. nia
    August 29, 2012

    VV was the protagonist and antagonist in both ties. Too bad his mistake cost us the cup it seems. He was awesome in this one, kept our nutts in it but hey, you win some, u lose some.

  102. BarcaRoja
    August 29, 2012

    Proud of the team’s never retreat never surrender attitude. Visca Barca! 🙂

  103. nia
    August 29, 2012

    Our home record was broken today. 🙂 Our second home that it.

    • jordi™
      August 29, 2012

      Doesnt count 🙂 We’ll extend it in the league come october 8)

      • Kimcelona
        August 29, 2012

        We’re playing at the Camp Nou in October this season.
        We won’t get a chance to play at the Barcabeu till next year. lol

  104. lea_terzi
    August 29, 2012

    The fact that we almost won the trophy on 92nd minute via a legit Barca move just says it all. Always fighting, alway true to ourselves. Proud of us today.

  105. August 29, 2012

    Yes. I love my team. Absolutely proud of them. They left it all on the pitch. Played well apart from those first 30 mins. And I’m not gonna blame them for anything. There’s a good reason why you don’t play so many ‘tough’ matches this early in the season. When the players are upto speed, then watch out!

    Song did well out there, needs time, but like the effort. And do you guys still blame VV? What use is a 3-1 in the 1st leg if you are going down by around 5 goals in the next. Way to shut his critics.

    Thank you Mou for the 1st 30 mins. We’ll be ready for that the next time 🙂

    We played our game, and played it while we were down to 10 men. That, I’d take over the trophy, which by the way they deserved, the way they took their chances and didn’t do so many mistakes like we did.

    Lets hope we continue the good form in the 2nd half to the game against Valencia. That’s more important..

  106. phunky
    August 29, 2012

    Pique was my MOTM after Barca went down to ten men. He was sweeping almost anything. Great to see him step up when required.
    Proud of our performance today. If not for stupid individual mistakes, we played pretty damn good.

    • jordi™
      August 29, 2012

      Its like he and masch realised if they didnt wake up we would get a historical bath. Different players those last 65 minutes.

    • _Lily
      August 29, 2012

      Agreed. I thought that Pique was absolutely amazing – he prevented several one-on-one situations and contributed to the attack, too. I hope he maintains his current run of form this season; we’ll win trophies for sure.

  107. jordi™
    August 29, 2012

    Montoya looked good imo.Considering he was dealing with Cristiano and Ozil. Clearly a much more natural RB than making poor Adriano play there just because hes two footed.

  108. TITO
    August 29, 2012

    Was thinking, it was not like we started to play better when we went to 10 men, but when actually a right back took that position and our defense started to look more solid. Tito’s mistake not to start with Montoya on the right.

    • Blau-Grenade
      August 29, 2012

      Absolutely agree with that assessment.

    • lea_terzi
      August 29, 2012

      Wasn’t there a match once when Adriano kept TB in check admirably? Wasn’t he playing right back then? Not sure if I remember correctly.
      Tito went for experience, which is what most coaches would do. Neither Adriano nor Alba were prepared to enter the way they did, Alba didn’t even have time to warm up. Game plan went haywire. It just shows the players’ and coach’s class, that they composed themselves and held out.

      • Kimcelona
        August 29, 2012

        No he was at LB. It was when Abi was out with the tumor.

      • Ryan
        August 29, 2012

        Adriano played left back in that game (Copa final) when he did well vs. TB. He was at fault for the headed goal that TB eventually scored, but that was after regulation time. So Adriano at least had a good 90 minutes of defense as a left back!

      • nzm
        August 29, 2012

        From memory, Adriano came in on the right in the 2nd Supacopa at Camp Nou last season, I think. But he came on as a hybrid right-side player (roving up and down) in support of Alves (who then stayed back), because Alves didn’t go off.

        Shortly after that, Cristiano was forced to switch wings because Alves and Adriano shut him down. Then he got owned by Abidal on the other side!

    • lea_terzi
      August 29, 2012

      Bigger problem is that he took 4 minutes to pull Alexis for Montoya after the red card, and Khedira almost scored in the meantime.

  109. nzm
    August 29, 2012

    Ah well – we can count our stars that it wasn’t 31-0. 😀

    • Blau-Grenade
      August 29, 2012

      I guess so. lol. You are funny!

  110. jordi™
    August 29, 2012

    Alexis needs to learn from pedro. Fight through the pressure and you might get a shot off. Sometimes he is actually fouled but going down every time means he wont get any calls. And hes bigger than Pedro and Ive seen him fight through rough play so I dont understand why he does it.

  111. August 29, 2012

    Quick thoughts (only saw about 60mins ish):

    -We have height problem both in defense and attack. Crossing is going to be a nightmare for us.
    -I like what Song did in that last pass to Messi near their goal area.
    -Busi was invisible. Good that he has some competition.
    -Everyone else looked focused after we were down to ten men. I like that!
    -Having a center forward and tall defense would be nice. Is it too late, Zubi?
    -I’m not complaining about the result. In a strange way, it’s good that we know our shortcomings, instead of living on false hopes.

  112. rohitv16
    August 29, 2012

    Amazing 2nd half from the boys… Couldnt believe how well we could control the game a man down… Madrid stepped down the gas but still it was as if we were playing 11 v 11 when a man down. Great effort from the boys in the 2nd half. Brilliant FK from Messi… Good that we lost… A nice kick in the back for the boys which should do more good than anything else.

    Hopefully Puyi gets fit soon. Dani’s absence sorely felt as no one really could feed Messi from the right… Montoya was unbelievably good for his age. Pedrito is back. And Victor… the best player out there today. Nice positives for us…

    Visca…. Now for the league…

  113. August 29, 2012

    To echo lea_terzi’s comment:

    Nights like this is when real fans are made! Support the team in sickness and health 🙂

    Damn straight.

    • Ryan
      August 29, 2012

      May I suggest an alternative word, though? True fans? Bonafide fans? Actual fans? 🙂

      There were some Real fans at the DC Penya for this game; felt like when little kids start entering the pool you’re enjoying and do their business. :/

  114. AJ_10
    August 29, 2012

    Proud of this club.

    Against Madrid, 2 down in 20 minutes and reduced to ten men, we showed spirit and class. Once we settled,(after the 30 th minute), I didn’t notice that we were a man down. We were that good.

    Well fought game. Props to them for taking it to us while we were reeling, but supreme effort by our guys.

    Onwards and upwards. Visca Barca!!

  115. Xavi6
    August 29, 2012

    am proud of the team’s character , Champions

  116. ciaran
    August 29, 2012

    VV proved his class today, it was a pity about the mistake in the first leg but he was immense today,

    Adriano had a shocker before he was even sent off, beaten by Ozil and Ronaldo before the red card. Stick to the subs bench unfortunately.
    Pique & Masch were ok once they each gave away a goal but there was far too much space between them and Busquets was too far forward.
    Alba was great at left back and nearly won the tie for us in the final few minutes. He is the most energetic player I’ve ever seen.

    Busquets wasn’t his usual self IMO and dwelt on the ball a little too much.
    Xavi and Iniesta were poor in the first half and didn’t improve til Messi came very deep.

    Pedro worked tirelessly and nearly grabbed another Clasico goal.
    Alexis was fairly poor and is going to get himself a terrible reputation for diving.
    Messi was very good in the second half but there was little more he could have done. He didn’t get much protection from the referee but that’s usual against EE.

    I liked all three subs, Montoya should maybe have started, Song was good when he was on and Tello is clearly Tito’s favourite ‘B’ teamer.

    Congrats to them, I hope it’s the only thing they win this season 🙂

    • replayed
      August 29, 2012

      “Montoya should maybe have started”

      No doubt about it. I suspect he didn’t start because he wasn’t even dressed for the match at the time Alves went down injured. Tito’s fundamental error was not to have had him on the bench in the first place, leaving the team with absolutely zero cover at right back. I suppose Alves has proven himself to be durable, but still… Anyway, I’m glad Montoya got the chance to show that he could take the heat. May be not have to spend any time with the B team this year.

      I suppose it’s a wonder that Madrid hadn’t gone for the aerial assault strategy more in previous encounters. I’d expect other teams to follow suit and start bombing more balls against Barca, at least until the team shows they can deal with them.

      Song looked surprisingly comfortable in his short spell on the field. He kept his passes short and complete, which was wise. But i know he can be very accurate with the long ball as well. Once he has the timing down, I look forward to what he can do with Villa and, especially, wide receiver Pedro.

      Alexis’s confidence must be shot for him to be going down so easily. Maybe Pedro’s recovered form and Villa’s recovered health have unsettled him. He has to fight to stay in the lineup. He can start by fighting to say on his feet.

      Valdes was immense. But so was Casillas, probably the man of the match on the day.

      All in all, a great match, notwithstanding the score.

      • _Lily
        August 29, 2012

        Hasn’t Montoya officially been promoted? I don’t think the B team is an option for him, Bartra, dos Santos, or Muniesa anymore.

      • It’s easy to say that “Monotoyo should have started”. With Puyol out it was normal to see Adriano starting especially with Montoyo getting no prior game time.

      • Valdes was brilliant for most part. But he should have easily saved that Ronaldo goal. there was nothing in that shot. And to make it worse, it was going straight at Pique. He deflected it the other way. May be Pique shud have screamed to leave it.

    • August 29, 2012

      Busquets wasn’t his usual self IMO

      I haven’t seen the game yet, but frankly Busi hasn’t played his best since the Euros, and it’s worrying me. I suppose it’s inevitable that he would have a drop in form, everybody does eventually, and he has been playing at such a high level for ages…but it worries me. At least we have Song now so Busi can get some rest.

    • nzm
      August 29, 2012

      Huh – there are bigger ones on the Barcelona streets every day – just on the dogs! 😆

      • lea_terzi
        August 29, 2012

        Cojones capital of the world? At least for today.

  117. August 29, 2012

    Very proud of the team today. Madrid deserved the trophy, good for them. We’ll see them in October again and I’m looking forward to that one.

  118. icemel
    August 29, 2012

    Madridristas breath one long collective sigh of relief, and cules lick their chops for October. Game on!

  119. _Lily
    August 29, 2012

    I dunno, I had a different take on the game than a lot of people here.

    Positives:
    – The team never gave up.
    – Pedro and Pique were immense. Tied for MoM for me. They were just everywhere, making important plays and interceptions and contributing to the attack. Valdes was good and kept the scoreline from getting embarrassing. Song had a nice first appearance.
    – Messi scored a brilliant goal.
    – Nobody got poked in the eye. In fact, it was a pretty civilized game. That was nice to see.

    Um. That’s about all I have. I thought that they compensated for being a man down pretty well – it wasn’t obvious that they were – but there were a lot of poor, misplaced passes, and they didn’t retain possession as well as they usually do. The defense was pretty poor at times – Khedira should not have gotten close enough to get a shot off. VV and the post each denied Madrid goals a few times, and if Pique hadn’t been at his best, it could have been 4-1 or 5-1; he prevented several one-on-one situations while trying to compensate for the lack of teeth in the midfield. Mascherano occasionally contributed, but he made a lot of dumb decisions, too (do not try to dribble Diva Maria, Ozil, or Ronaldo, please), and Montoya, Alba, and Busquets didn’t really do much to contribute to the defense. And Adriano was damned stupid to get himself that card.

    I mean, I don’t think that this loss is the worst thing in the world; it’s just the Spanish SuperCup, and we have a lot of those already. We’re looking good overall, and thus far Madrid have not impressed me – even in this game, they weren’t very good, and Ronaldo was basically invisible. A loss will help bring the team back to reality and focus them, especially since a trophy was involved.

    I also loved seeing Pedro and Pique back. They are both such amazing players it’s ridiculous.

    Oh well. There will be other trophies, and every team can have a few off days. Madrid have already showed that against Valencia and Getafe, after all. 😛

  120. flyzowee
    August 29, 2012

    Watching this team, sometimes I get the feeling that when a key player is missing, the coaching staff just dont seem to relay to his replacement just what exactly he should be doing to make up that loss.

    I mean we all know that when puyol plays, he leads, organises and is constantly keeping everyone sharp.
    The moment hes not around pique-smash look like they speak diff languages.
    Mistake after mistake and no puts a foot down and becomes more vocal.

    Who was the leader/organizer in todays game?

    The same thing occured vs Osasuna. Xavi doesnt start – Ok thats fine.
    Whoever replaced him or whichever player(s) is/are to assume his responsibilities should be made aware that this is their role right?
    This all sounds like basic common sense but going back to that game, both iniesta and Fab4 looked lost. Iniesta played his usual advanced role and Fab4 stayed level with him. Whats up with that?

    Even when our defence was being hustled by osasuna and begging for an outlet. Both Iniesta and Fab looked unsure as to who exactly was to drop deep to provide that.

    Maybe this is all in my head, but this is the vibe I keep on getting.

  121. August 29, 2012

    So we have Messi, Pedro, Tello and Alexis (with Villa and Cuenca coming back soon). Should we be worried about who will score goals for us?

    -Midfield looked suspicious in the Osasuna game and also in this game. What’s going on there?

    -Defense is my biggest gripe right now. Aerial balls are flying everywhere, making it a bit difficult for our midgets (+pique) to defend against.

  122. I’m proud of this team. Yes, really, I am.

    Looking back at that game, when Adriano got sent off I was like “Game over. Here comes the manita. God, give me strength to face this. We’re all going to die”

    But no, they didn’t give up. They fought back with everything they can. Pedro and Pique again was immense.
    and Montoya was great! Song did okay, I guess.
    In the end it was not enough but I’m very proud. Love, love this team.

    Congrats to RM. Now we have 3 trophies to catch and Tito still have a looot of homework. Visca Barça through sickness and health!

  123. Wind170
    August 29, 2012

    didn’t see enough hunger/determination from them.
    Mourinho injected ‘some mental drugs’ into his players.
    ~ to Osasuna, the midfield looks like they don’t exist in the 1st half. At that time, Barca was lucky. This time not. Both teams play the same no. of games, tired? Old legs need to take more rest. Vs Osasuna, the midfield selection isn’t totally B.x. Just the positions look a bit odd. This ‘anti-thesis’ version as opposed to Spain’s system requires them to switch & compliment each other more, allowing faster transit in both ways. But they need to be hunger for the ball. Not enough pressing in the 1st half ~ to previous match. Even when a match is won, when problems are observed, they should be sorted out before the bubble burst. Perhaps complacency kicks in?! Sometimes when the players get ‘bullied’ too much(esp in the midfield), a box-box mid can be useful. There is a new mid. coz I’m not suggesting to get more cards. ~ problem is observed in Chelsea match(yeah… the one cause most ppl related to Barca never forget)… Ramires influence in their counters

    Another point to note, Adriano looks pretty shaky in his previous 2 matches. Just a time bomb to explode if too many back pass occur.

    Whatever how many of you are fond of Valdes,
    the no. of costly ‘gifts’ to opponents esp in big matches is increasing. Perhaps he need some competition as well.
    German or Italian(risky) keepers or others???
    Perhaps they should give a starting chance to a young CB.
    There’s a natural disadv for Mach & that is evident in imp games. Else if it’s shaky, why not go for the 3-4-3 to get more goals instead? They played too conservatively in away games. Partl. the WBs are ‘timid’ in away scenarios, like they are hiding most of the time. Squirrels hiding under the bush?
    It’s almost a fact Barca cannot defend by not attacking, they will concede goals sooner or later by fearing to concede, not pressing, retreating the line further & further & vs their DNA. Think it the other way, home teams tend to attack more than away teams, open game leaves more space for attack. But perhaps for Barca(exception), it’s still better to take the initative. Look at Dunga’s Brazil, horrible…taking 1 goal lead in 2 legged counters with away goal rules ~ nothing where you can forget the previous match.

    The tactics RM scoring the goals are mainly targeting the centre in the back, Mas & Valdes…one should see more in the future or coz their high intesity pressing’… which is also observed in Osasuna’s game. Definitely not a coincidence, the problem is just amplified by RM. With Puyol, they are lack of pace.

    The cup may be small in many people’s eyes, but the lesson is huge, the upcoming ones & the game several weeks later>> the lesson…Fresh players are >> than conceding possession in the midfield & hence goals instead of scoring them ,better options old legs sometimes(in fatigue). After several ‘warmups’ for Villa, just wonder when he can contribute more mins & goals to share the goal burden with Messi. ‘castle'(most 1st half) & Osasuna’s pitch are good, comfortable bed? Ponies/Horses have to deny that. Much better if that ‘gfi’ attitude is shown earlier…

  124. mom4
    August 29, 2012

    I never rewatch losses. I’m making an exception and watching the second half of today’s game again. Proud of our determination. To see that they have it in them to fight ’til the death in an almost hopeless situation and in a hostile environment is more reassuring with regards to how I think this season will go than watching them run over some poor little team 8-0.

  125. andres ito
    August 29, 2012

    was anyone else surprised that cesc was left out? i was really happy to see a.song get in…and im happy to see how he handled himself.. but we needed a goal..and cesc is good at doing that random crazy stuff that would have worked perfectly yesterday..

  126. Srini
    August 29, 2012

    I think Alves’ unfortunate pregame injury scare put the team off the rails. Tito should have in hindsight brought in Montoya, but who can blame him for not testing out a young inexperienced former B teamer against the toughest opponent at their home?

    I actually miss Eric Abidal. If he was around, he would have played along with Pique in Central defense and Mascherano would have been a substitute. It is clear that Barca haven’t been the treble winning selves since Abidal’s injury.

    There is something wrong with the defense’s dynamic since Abidal’s loss from playing time to surgery.

    Having said that, Song’s performance was encouraging. His positioning to receive passes was a tad off but boy, he can retain possession well and also ping it around quickly and effectively. He showed a lot of courage in his first game in a hyper-pressure situation and it is good omens for Barca.

    I would have preferred Cesc’s introduction over Tello as he could have provided a direct forward role with Messi being the supplier in the last few minutes of the game. Cesc is also a big game player and it grated that Tito felt it necessary to blood Tello over him.

    Give credit to EE. They were superb in the first half and while wasteful in the second, they weren’t bad either. They attacked in packs and pinged the ball aerially or otherwise as if they were tuned in together as automatons. Normally that is what we say about Barca, but EE were close to their perfection.

    The Supercopa loss should be an eyeopener for the Barca thinktank and they will focus well on the Liga as it progresses again. But I sincerely wish Abidal comes back. He, I think, holds the key to Barca’s re-domination.

  127. Alves unfortunate injury shook the whole back line off their concentration. Plus credit has to be given to RM for trying to play a lot of over the top ball which became a mess to deal with our back four. Actually Valdes should have been more pro-active off his line to provide an outlet for the defense in those situation.

    Out of four goals, three came from school boy errors from our boys and that is too much. You can have one mistake in a two legged tie, but this was way too much.

    Loved the way the team responded in the second half and created those chances. Proud of their effort in second half.

    Never understood the logic behind bringing in Tello for Pedro(our best player on the night) especially when we were going for that final push. Pedro would have been really handy in those final moments. He has the habit of stealing goals. Or at least Villa could have been brought in.

    Positives:

    1) Montoyo – Boy, he is ready. Do not bench him. Give him more substitute time. This was a test by fire and he did really well.

    2) Alba – He was really brilliant. Turning up at the right time to cut danger in defense. Had that touch around Casillas not been too heavy, he would have been the hero.

    3) Pedro – He is back and he should start every match.

    4) Song – Looks like he is not going to take much time to integrate himself into the team.

    5) Messi – He wasn’t having a great night till that red card. But he stepped up, took a lot of kicking and hacking down, dropped back and linked well with midfield and scored that sensation free kick.

    6) This is most Important – From the time we have been facing Mourinho’s team we used to lose only once per season(even if it happens) to his team. So that’s done with. Now the boy’s could concentrate harder and focus more for the bigger silverware.

  128. icemel
    August 29, 2012

    I third that. Hope Cesc does not get discouraged. It was nice to see Song in the mix though, and if all the experience Tello is getting makes him a serious first 11 contender to light a fire under Sanchez’ ragdoll ass, I’m all for it.

  129. Sheena
    August 30, 2012

    I don’t know, in a way I kind of expected that we wouldn’t win the cup. I didn’t expect us to play that badly, mind.

    Our season just seemed to have started off a little too well.

    Madrid draws, we win, we beat them, we eke out a win, they drop points again… I just couldn’t see us following that up with lifting the Supercopa at their place. The law of probability says that we have to lose sometime, and if a loss was going to hit us at any point, I’d much rather it be in the Supercopa where we can learn from it than in the league where it’d have really affected things.

    Plus, after we conceded those two goals and Adriano got sent off, I spent the rest of the match more worried about how many we would concede, and not really contemplating the possibility of us winning the cup until right at the very end when we looked like we might just steal it. I genuinely thought, after the first 20 minutes, that it had the potential to be a reverse of the 5-0 we laid on them. They even scored in the exact same minutes! Heh.

    As for Valdes’ error costing us, many have already posted this above, but he more than made up for it today. He directly led to a goal last week, yes. His fault. But honestly, Madrid had at least 3 or 4 one on one chances that should have and would have been converted today had it not been for Valdes. There’s no point leading 3-1 if you’re going to lose 1-6.

    Anyway, I’m not saying that our lead in the league is decisive by any means (because that would be ridiculous on so many levels), but boy am I glad that it exists, especially with us facing Valencia this weekend. The home games against Valencia over the past couple of seasons have always been rather memorable, I think, and have involved us having to come for behind, so it should be a cracker (though I’d rather a nice, comfy 5-0 for us but we can’t always get what we want).

    Visca Barca.

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