History or Misery

It’s here – today – 20:45 CET.

The chance for Spain to create history and win 3 major tournaments back-to-back.

Will the La Roja boys be furia or will they be manso?  The odds aren’t much in their favour – they haven’t beaten Italy in a competitive 90 minutes since 1920.

The teams are making their way into the stadium as I write this.  La Roja looks very concentrated and serious.

Tournament Stats so far (shamelessly lifted from the UEFA Euro official site):

Click here to convert the kick-off time to your time:  Spain vs. Italy

Click here to watch the Preview Show which starts at 20:00:  Preview Show

Click here if you need a link to watch the game at 20:45:  Game Links

Please share other links in the comments.

¡Vamos España!

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    • nzm
      July 2, 2012

      Starts in 16 minutes as of me writing this.

      Click here for time conversion in your timezone: La Roja Victory Parade

    • nzm
      July 2, 2012

      Also live streaming from Spanish TV:

      RTVE

      It’s already started.

    • nzm
      July 2, 2012

      They’re on the bus – about to begin the parade!

  1. nzm
    July 2, 2012

    Pepe Reina is hilarious. He’s always the one who introduces the team to the crowd.

    Tonight, and forever more, Busquets will be known as “Sergio del Bosque Busquets”. 😀

  2. Messiah10
    July 2, 2012

    I really think Spain can/will 4-peat! I honestly don’t see a team that can beat them, unless Messi goes Messi and takes Argentina on his shoulders ala Maradona ’86. NO ONE can score against them! Their defense is impeccable. Xavi will be a huge hole/void if he’s not 100% in 2014, but he can be used as a deep lying play maker as he was in EURO12. I am still worried about him this season as I stated in earlier posts, even with his world class finals game. If I were Tito I’d let the national team players have preseason off. Except for Valdes. Germany may be able to take Spain off the mantle in ’14 because they’ll have more experience and be very hungry after their semi defeat. I’m not so sure they need a out and out striker. Gomez will be a couple years older. Klose won’t be in the team? They could start Rues, Goetz, Podolski up front & Ozil, Bastian, Muller in mid in a 4-3-3. They’d have Khedira & Kroos as well. Interesting thought?

    • barca96
      July 3, 2012

      How about Goetze?? He seems to be a forgotten man.

    • Clouseau
      July 3, 2012

      He miss the whole second half due to Injury. Löw didn’t want to risk another backlash.Wise decision.

    • nzm
      July 3, 2012

      They also have Lars Bender who would be so much better than Boateng. He’s a midfielder, but he played at RB when Boateng wasn’t available for one of the matches, and he was better than Boateng. Very versatile player.

      Loew needs to get tough with his team and start weeding out the ones who don’t give the results.

      Podolski is a lazy SOB who only does enough to stay on the pitch. He’s useless in defence and won’t track back unless he really has to. He played a big part in letting Balotelli score the 2nd goal. Incredibly, he and Lahm were covering Balotelli, and Podolski only trotted back with no urgency, allowing Balotelli an easier shot at goal.

      Gomez is just Gomez. Unless he gets the perfect ball to his feet or head, he’s useless. A big waste of a player position when fast movement and versatility is needed.

      Klose is too old now and should just go. Schweinsteiger needs time to properly recover from his injuries. Kroos is borderline decent/useless – he’ll disengage his brain to take a useless pot at goal when more finesse and ball retention is required. Badstuber needs to be shaken awake.

      I’d love to see:

      Neuer
      Bender – Mertesacker – Hummels – Lahm
      Mueller/Khedira – Schweinsteiger – Oezil
      Reus – Goetze – Schuerrle

      This frontline could really cause some problems for any defence.

    • Clouseau
      July 3, 2012

      Yeah, it’s terrible to see eith what happened to Poldi.Hard to believe that he was once on par with Rooney now they are Worlds apart.I wonder how he will do @Arsenal him playing as LW is only another Copy of the Walcott issue.

      I only hope that Schürrle won’t follow the same path. He is special kind a type of forward Germany have waited patiently for long times.

      Won’t think it would workout for Germany to play with false 9 but if anybody is capable to do the job it’s Supermario Götze.
      But i’d like only once to see Götziller trio to play as forwards just for curiosity 😉

    • Messiah10
      July 3, 2012

      I don’t rate Walcott very high at all. Don’t let his goal at Euro’s fool you. That was a once in a lifetime shot. I watch a lot of Arsenal games and have never seen him do that. He can’t cross balls into the box at all. He does have pace but is dispossessed easily because he doesn’t have the ball skills to retain possession. Podolski is far better than him. I was disappointed with his Euro’s but I think he’ll adapt to PL well. It suits his game. He poured in 18 goals for a relegated side this year. He barely had any chances from lack of creation, so when he gets a chance, he buries it. I agree about his defense. It lacks and needs addressed, but I feel Wenger will get the best out of him.

    • Clouseau
      July 3, 2012

      Me neither,haha.Far from that. What i meant is that the Gunners constantly expressed their dissappointment by Walcott lack of intelligence and Wingplay.Podolsky like Theo can’t beat up his man 1o1 and he doesn’t add that much of widths..
      What i’m sure of that he is going to team up very well with van Pervert as he will open up him the needed space and vice versa.

      But yeah it’s true the EPL suits him very well, pacy play and lot of spaces for him to use.Now with playing in a better Team he can show all of his skills.Perhaps it’s going to be the fresh air he needed.
      Wouldn’t be the first Time when Arséne convert a supbar Player to a Worldbeater 🙂

    • July 2, 2012

      OR was he just impatient to get to the trophy presentation. Huh? HUH????

      (Kidding, it was a nice gesture.)

  3. ooga aga
    July 3, 2012

    barca friendlies esta pretemporada

    july 24 at Hamburg
    aug 4 at Paris St Germain
    aug 8 vs Manchester United in sweden
    aug 11 TBA
    aug 20 vs Sampdoria (Trofeo Gamper)

    can you believe it, only 3 weeks til preseason.

    • ooga aga
      July 3, 2012

      looks like i missed:

      july 29 vs Moroccan all-stars in Tangiers
      july 31 “catalan supercup” vs espanyol

      phew! full plate.

    • Clouseau
      July 3, 2012

      First i was happy that Barça cancelled the asian preseason Tour but this one isn’t that better every three or four day a game? And still not counting Supercup against EE…

      Not optimistic about that Pretemporada..

    • hansh
      July 3, 2012

      Holy CRAP, three weeks til preseason! That’s exciting, but I feel bad for our boys who are working hard about 11 months a year.

    • sd
      July 3, 2012

      There are 6 pages. Be warned though some of them are a little insensitive and might be inappropriate.

    • Messiah10
      July 3, 2012

      I just translated that. Wow. What a comment coming off a 3peat and unifying a country in the throws of a dire financial crisis. Great timing! Leave the politics be for a while sir.

  4. barca96
    July 3, 2012

    What do you guys think of Platini’s idea of having an Euro where it will be staged all over Europe?

    I am in favor of this because they will use already built stadiums instead of spending money to build stadiums for Euros. Ukraine, Poland and S. Africa etc. won’t be able to regain the $ spend for many years to come, if ever.

    • Messiah10
      July 3, 2012

      I’m not sure I like it. It sounds like a lot of traveling unless they keep groups in 1 location, give rest for travel, and then resume the same format with Quarter Finals. I can’t believe they’re expanding the tournament. The quality of the lesser teams is already extremely poor. It will only worsen with an expanded format and the quality of the matches will reflect that. I think the Euro’s should be held at major European countries who already have the infrastructure(i.e. stadiums, airports, hotels, major roads). It should be rotated between England, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Holland, & Portugal. Russia is to big and the travel would be immense unless they kept it to a region of Russia. Any countries I’m missing?

  5. barca96
    July 3, 2012

    So you’re going to stay up until 4 or 5 am Asia Pacific time to watch this match and go to work on Monday morning? That’s quite a dedication

    Yeah the only time I do this for a non-Barca related match.
    Technically it’s not true because there are a handful Barca players in the team 🙂

  6. barca96
    July 3, 2012

    First Deschamps. Then Conte and now Ciro Ferrara is becoming a manager too! Urgh. Whenever I hear these names, it brings back painful memories of 1996 CL Final.

    They (Juve) were superb! I don’t understand how come nobody mentioned their team as one of the greatest ever.

    That was the first time I understand about the usefulness of pressuring the opponents. They hunted in packs. One of the first things that came to my mind during the early stages of Pep’s area was how it reminded me of Juventus’ intense pressuring team of the mid 90’s.

    I remember saying to my friends that it looked that they had extra players on the pitch.

    • Clouseau
      July 3, 2012

      I think it’s due them beeing knowed as founded guilty for systemly doping their team. They have been about three Times or more at CL Finals but only won once? Back then it was fun to see Milan buying the names but Juve making the names xD

      But yeah that was a hell of Final i remember the young Davids shooting a horrible penalty..so horrendously weak the keeper didn’t even have to move..man how was i pissed off at him that Night 🙂

      Ravanelli played some good stuff with Baggio still my favourite italien Player.Curious to know what happened to him?

    • Clouseau
      July 3, 2012

      Bayern Munich managed to get Mathias Sammer as new Sporting Direktor.Bayern reacted of the sudden Success of BVB and their admirable sporting Policy.The high defeats against BVB has led them to depart with Nerlinger.
      Sammer was the Sport Director of DFB(Ger FA)with him Germany managed to successfully rejuvinate their Youthpolicy. He was the only one on the DFB Camp who stand his man against Löw&Bierhoff as he had a critical View to most of their approachement.
      Smart move for Bayern but a big loss for the german Football.
      Sammer is a serious admirer of Pep Guardiola and always expressed his desire to see him coaching in the Bundesliga. Maybe he can make it possible now that he got the influence for it.

      But one thing is fur sure Bayern got one hell of a quality Football Expert and intellectuall man but above all unlike Nerlinger a strong personality,never fears conflicts and defends his views strongly.The last Guy with that kind of personality(Klinsmann)was chased out away by Hoeneß :))

  7. barca96
    July 3, 2012

    I really don’t understand how these things work at times (UEFA & FIFA).

    Balotelli only had 1 good match. Against England. How on earth was he selected in the team of the tournament? Same applies to Silva & Torres.

    Do they just look at the stats instead of observing the players?

    • Messiah10
      July 3, 2012

      Balotelli had a few good matches. Even when he didn’t score he created a lot of havoc for the defenses. He pressured well and relieved pressure and held the ball up so Pirlo could get it back. I thought he had a hell of a tournament. Maybe, it’s more down to him not melting down and quitting. This is the 1st time I’ve watched him and he’s continued to try hard even though his team was getting beat or he wasn’t scoring. He seemed mentally focused and that maybe why he’s stood out for the officials. If he takes that back to Citeh, he could have a hell of a season. A big “IF”. Maybe he has turned the page and matured. He is only 21! He could be a force for years to come.

    • Ryan
      July 3, 2012

      Are you confusing his game against Germany with England? Scoring two against Germany in a semi-final is huge!

  8. Clouseau
    July 3, 2012

    That was never meant to as reply to barca96 :

    Bayern Munich managed to get Mathias Sammer as new Sporting Direktor.
    Bayern reacted of the sudden Success of BVB and their admirable sporting Policy.The high defeats against BVB has led them to depart with Nerlinger.
    Sammer was the Sport Director of DFB(Ger FA)with him Germany managed to successfully rejuvinate their Youthpolicy. He was the only one on the DFB Camp who stand his man against Löw&Bierhoff as he had a critical View to most of their approachement.
    Smart move for Bayern but a big loss for the german Football.
    Sammer is a serious admirer of Pep Guardiola and always expressed his desire to see him coaching in the Bundesliga. Maybe he can make it possible now that he got the influence for it.

    But one thing is fur sure Bayern got one hell of a quality Football Expert and intellectuall man but above all unlike Nerlinger a strong personality,never fears conflicts and defends his views strongly.The last Guy with that kind of personality(Klinsmann)was chased out away by Hoeneß :))

    • Messiah10
      July 3, 2012

      Thanks for the info. I was sad to see Klinsmann pushed out, but in the end, the U.S. got him, so it worked out for me!

    • Clouseau
      July 3, 2012

      Yeah, I guess it was a good for both sides to work with each other.Klinsmann is americanized anyway 🙂

      In Germany he made sure to clean out the old-fashioned thinking/approachement of the DFB and the Bundesligaclubs.
      By adding american.Fitnessexperts,building a modern Trainingcenter only for usage to DFB internationals etc.

  9. garry
    July 3, 2012

    hey if i remember correctly, wasn’t Euler ‘supposed’ to give his views on our club’s transfer targets (‘promised’ in the article on transfers by other mods) ….would love to hear his views on the subject…..and thanks to him for the countless posts on tactics. They are eulertastic!

  10. Kimcelona
    July 3, 2012

    Off Topic..but does anything really stay on topic here? LOL

    I may be the ONLY one here but I want Spain to drop out of the Olympics really early, like the first round hopefully, so Alba (ESPECIALLY), Thiago (if he acutally does get to go), Montoya and Tello can have rest and a preseason with the rest of the team.

    Am I the only one concerned with Alba not having a chance to integrate with his teammates, or getting to know some of the ins and outs of his new coach? He played EVERY minute of EVERY match of the Euros and now will be going to the Olympics after signing with a new club? Dont like it at all.

    Montoya and Tello going is another issue…didnt Tito say he needed to see these guys in preseason to make final decisions on whether they would be kept or loaned out/sold? Hows he gonna determine all this if they’ll be off at the Olympics missing preseason, possibly most of it if Spain goes all the way?

    I’m not a Spain supporter so for me Barca needs far outweigh Spain needs.

    • Messiah10
      July 4, 2012

      I was shocked to see him included in the squad. I hope he pulls up with cramps or something and doesn’t play much. I don’t care about the Olympics and never have. It’s too political and corrupt, much like FIFA. I only recently started watching Olympic football. I’ll be interested in watching Brazil because they’re pinning a lot of hope on this Olympic squad. It’s their only competitive tournament besides the Confederations Cup before WC ’14. I’m really not into any other Olympic sport they have. Maybe the 50 & 100 yd dash. Snooze fest. ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

  11. Gogah
    July 4, 2012

    I’d love to see Barca play a full strength Spain team (without the first choice barca players of course)

  12. Helge
    July 4, 2012

    @nzm: I wrote a reply under your comment about Piqué cutting the net 🙂

    • nzm
      July 8, 2012

      sorry for the late reply, Helge!

    • Helge
      July 9, 2012

      Better late than never 🙂

      I know it’s always a problem to refer to older comments on this site, because most people only look at the newest posts.

      And to be honest, I didn’t check for a reply before right now, because I’m learning almost 24/7 for my upcoming exams.

      So I hope you understood what I wrote to you in German, but if you understand Oliver Kahn’s analysis of football, this should not be too much of a problem 😉

  13. July 4, 2012

    Anyone have a DL for the final?

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