Copa Liveblog: Barça – Cultural

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Isaiah is a co-founder and lead writer for Barcelona Football Blog. He currently lives in Germany with his wife and daughter.


  1. Phil
    November 10, 2009

    Don’t know if it matters, but the liveblog has the time listed as 3:45 AM EST instead of PM.

    TD rocks.

    • November 10, 2009

      Hmm. Well, okay, so no, it doesn’t matter, but good point about my clock management skills.

    • November 10, 2009

      P.S. – Isaiah, I have a new level of respect fort you for putting the D in this post.

      • November 10, 2009

        About The D: Went to see them, Jimmy Eat World, and Weezer in concert in college. Amazing show, complete with like 80 Cleveland steamer jokes for obvious we-were-in-Cleveland reasons.

  2. November 10, 2009

    I’m watching the RM-Alcorcon match and RayRay just said of a pass with too much weight on it, “Carl Lewis doesn’t get to that with roller skates on.”

    Dude is brilliant.

    • November 10, 2009

      Dude who isn’t brilliant: Phil Schoen. He just said that if Alcorcon does eat RM, they’ll face us in the next round. WRONG. There’s another draw–we wouldn’t necessarily be meeting RM if they went through, though the prospect of 4 Clasicos in one season is always a fun prospect.

      • Vj
        November 10, 2009

        You can blame wikipedia for that..


  3. cliveee
    November 10, 2009

    Alcorcon is unbeatable in the air!!!!!!! 0-0 still! Maybe… maybe… maybe.. we will end up facing Alcorcon in the final of Copa del rey, lol!

  4. Helge
    November 10, 2009

    Wow, Alcorcon is playing really well, defensively. They are better than half of the La Liga teams in that department 🙂

    Breaking News: Robert Enkde, aged 32, died. He was the keeper for Barca in 2002/03 I think but didn’t play many games. He’s been the current German national keeper. Apparently, he has thrown himself in front of a train at 18:35 CET.
    R.I.P. Robert Enke

    • gv
      November 10, 2009

      I just read that too helde. R.I.P. to Robert.

      he may have played just 1 game for us, but that is still bad news.

    • eklavya
      November 10, 2009

      Apparently his daughter died at 2 years old too. 🙁

  5. Kxevin
    November 10, 2009

    Sad news, Helge. Thanks for that. We can never understand the pressures that drive modern footballers, or the things that must get swept under the rug in an effort to keep the machine rolling.

    –So EE has to score 5 goals in 45 minutes to stay in the Copa? Is that what I’m hearing?

  6. eklavya
    November 10, 2009

    Yay Atletico madrid won 6-0! About time, Maxi scored 4 times…

    • cliveee
      November 10, 2009

      Maxi score 4 times and still wasn’t substituted and at the end injured… the coach is responsible.

  7. gv
    November 10, 2009

    alorocon’s playing good in the counter attack. they just couldn’t find the right pass,

  8. November 10, 2009

    Our lineup, from Sport: Pinto, Alves, Marquez, Fontas, Maxwell, Busi, JDS, Iniesta, Pedro!, Bojan, Jeffren

    • OhYes
      November 10, 2009

      That’s a bad ass line up, yet most of those are still tiny little children!

  9. OhYes
    November 10, 2009

    Ohhh hahahaha this madrid defense is so bad hahaha and look at their feeble attempts to score 3 goals in one minute tehe this is so fun to watch

  10. Xavi
    November 10, 2009

    Also, I believe Puyol is playing – not Fontas

    • Vj
      November 10, 2009

      Good thing that you have been rested..

  11. Carles P
    November 10, 2009

    WOW… the floodgates are open. Let’s score more!

  12. Andrew M.
    November 10, 2009

    quote from the official site

    “Chagrined, Abidal, Henry and Touré are all off with their national teams”

    chagrined? i guess he is a little but….

  13. ballbeav
    November 10, 2009

    what was that, 5 goals in 24 minutes? not bad.

  14. Kari
    November 10, 2009

    Madrid, cabron, saluda Alcorcon! 😛

    I wonder if that will become a trend…

    • poipoi
      November 10, 2009

      I’ll just reply myself… now it’s on 😛

  15. Boat Forever
    November 10, 2009

    Stats so far this season, in the order of La Liga, Champions League, CDR, Super Copa & Uefa Super Cup

    Goals :

    Messi—– 7,1,1,2,0 = 11
    Pedro—– 3,1,3,1,1 = 9
    Ibra—— 7,1,0,0,0 = 8
    Keita—– 6,0,0,0,0 = 6
    Bojan—– 1,0,2,1,0 = 4
    Pique—– 2,0,0,0,0 = 2
    Xavi—— 0,0,1,1,0 = 2
    Alves—– 1,0,0,0,0 = 1
    Henry—– 1,0,0,0,0 = 1

    Assists :

    Ibra—— 5,1,0,1,0 = 7
    Messi—– 4,0,0,0,1 = 5
    Xavi—— 3,1,0,1,0 = 5
    Alves—– 3,0,0,1,0 = 4
    Busquets– 3,0,0,0,0 = 3
    Iniesta— 2,0,1,0,0 = 3
    Keita—– 2,0,0,0,0 = 2
    Pedro—– 0,0,1,1,0 = 2
    Jeffren— 0,0,2,0,0 = 2
    Bojan—– 0,0,1,0,0 = 1
    Maxwell— 1,0,0,0,0 = 1
    Puyi—— 1,0,0,0,0 = 1
    JDS——- 0,0,1,0,0 = 1

    P.S. Congrats JDS for having your first say in the charts, sweet little pass and very good finish by Bojan. Hopefully a huge confidence-boosting performance for Bojan 🙂 For Messi as well, what an individual display, also P! is not accounted with that assist because it was all Messi!! Best goal IMO is the second of Bojan

  16. tyler
    November 10, 2009

    and now we face the once, but no longer, minnows: Alcorcon

  17. November 10, 2009

    I just watched the goals again and on his first, Bojan screams “puta madre” afterwards. Then the rout was on. Beautiful, beautiful stuff right there.

    The second goal was just a gorgeous pass from JDS after collective teamwork. Absolutely stunning vision from the kid and then a very very good put-away from Bojan. But that pass. Holy crap.

    The third goal was a brilliant pass from Messi to Iniesta and what was actually an even better pass from Iniesta to Pedro!.

    The fourth was just, well, Messi being Messi. Holy hell.

    The fifth was Xavi starting a move, continuing it, and then ghosting into the middle where he went unmarked. I know he’s little, but man, you gotta put someone on him. And then their keeper started crying and I felt bad for him, though Messi consoled him and that was classy. Seriously. Classy, with a capital awesome. And no, that sentence didn’t make sense.

    Messi had so many goals on his feet it’s insane that he didn’t get more than the one he did. The one he got was by far the toughest, yet he made that one look easy. The others, he made into more difficult shots than they were, as if he knows he can only score the terrific ones.

      • Hector
        November 10, 2009

        Oh boy, that’s a toughie to explain. Its a very versatile phrase and a very common slang term in Spain. Technically it means “Whore Mother” but its meaning varies depending on the context and the tone. In this case it meant to convey something along the lines of “Hell YEAHH!!” or “Effing Awesome!!”. When something is “de Puta Madre” it usually means awesome but can also mean other things like “very difficult” like “el examen estuvo de Puta Madre”.

        Its kinda like “cabron” in Puerto Rico. In many countries its a fighting word but here it can mean a bunch of different things depending on tone or context.

        • Boat Forever
          November 10, 2009

          Thanks man 🙂 Some Spanish lesson there 😉

        • cliveee
          November 11, 2009

          truly thank you! before your explanation i thought he cursed: “Fuck your whore mom(I FINALLY SCORE)!!!” or something.

          • poipoi
            November 11, 2009

            — but can also mean other things like “very difficult” like “el examen estuvo de Puta Madre”. —– are you from south america or something?? In Spain it’s not like that.

            “el examen estuvo de puta madre” — the exam went well, it was easy. Sorry but I’m from Spain and can’t think of any phrase where “de puta madre” means “difficult”… it’s allways good ” DE PUTA MADRE MATES!!!”

  18. Hector
    November 10, 2009

    I gotta admit I was a little perplexed when Pep rolled out Messi and Xavi. Talk about overkill. Then again, I guess you could see it as a sign of respect for La Cultu (that we took them seriously) and the fans who showed up (the Camp Nou was mostly empty). The tickets for that game must have been cheap as hell. What a treat for the fans to go out in the cold night to see some of the kids but end up seeing Xavi, Messi, Alves, Iniesta, and Puyol in action. Talk about bang for the buck! Also, what a treat for the Cultu players I guess. If I played for La Cultu, I would have been honestly honored to share the pitch with the likes of Xavi, Messi, and Iniesta. Then again, imagine if one of them had gotten injured. I really didn’t understand those subs too well. I know Jeffren picked up a knock but was Gai not on the list? I guess Pep wanted to keep Messi and Xavi sharp after what by their standards has been a vacation and give the fans a reward for braving the cold to watch a match that was hardly in doubt.

    Regarding Boat Forever’s awesome stats, who would have though before the season that by this point Pedro! would be our second leading goal scorer? Talk about a break-out year so far for Pedro the Great. Also, Ibra with more assists than Xavi? Yup. That’s the most complete #9 in the game for you. Now, lets score some more goals, huh? Xavi and Iniesta need to step it up in that department. Keita has been a one man wrecking crew but we can’t count on a single guy for all of our midfield goals.

    In La Sexta (which I was streaming on JustinTV)after Pedro’s goal, one of the commentators observed that it was El Barca de los Bajitos (the Barca of the Short Ones) and the other replied that Ibra was missing from the group hug. The other commentator then said it was like a recess because the kids’ daddy (Ibra) was missing. Obviously, I LOL’ed my ass off.

    Also, Pique definitely designed the official Barca cold weather jacket that the whole bench was wearing. If it fit me and I didn’t live in a place where people break out hoodies when it drops into the 70’s then I would buy the one Kevin is selling in a heart beat. That baby is definitely Pique Approved.

    Oh yeah, classy move by Barca in honoring the great Cesar, one of the best players in Barca’s history and a proud leones (you know, from Leon like La Cultural Leonesa).

    • Boat Forever
      November 10, 2009

      This is our first goal from our MF area(excluding Keita of course because he’s not in the starting 11 when every body’s fit, no offense meant there) after the Super Copa 1st leg; effectively the first goal in 18 matches!! Since it’s the last goal of today’s match, I hope it’s the beginning of some thing good… Don Ghostface starts to score like he was just on the mission of winning the WPOTY & ending the talk forever that he cannot overshadow other super stars in the team

      • Hector
        November 10, 2009

        Yeah, I noticed that. I know they are primarily playmakers but a little more directness occasionally from them won’t hurt.

        If Don Andres stays healthy for a whole season, plays in midfield like he did last season (or better) and scores at least 15 goals then the Golden Ball is as good as his. He’s that good. The next one belongs to Messi but considering Spain’s form in relation to Argentina’s and the fact that in a World Cup year the best player on the winning NT usually ends up winning the big individual prizes then a great WC can wrap up some awards for Andres. He has a better chance than Messi in a WC year with Maradona still being Argentina’s coach. Then again, Andres doesn’t care. He probably just wants to win a bunch of more titles and then go back to Fuentealbilla to run his family’s inn. 😀

        • iBlau
          November 11, 2009

          ” He probably just wants to win a bunch of more titles and then go back to Fuentealbilla to run his family’s inn. 😀 ”


    • cliveee
      November 11, 2009

      Agreed with all your points but wanna add that Pep wanted to show some more color to make a bigger contrast with Madrid by fielding our stars. He can’t be uninterested in knowing the result of Madrid’s game.

      I also believe Pep had Cultural thoroughly assessed and ruled that they are not going to try too hard to win by playing dirty or physical. That’s why he took the risk to start the party. and Yes, it is very important to keep Messi playing. Messi needs to play more than anyone to keep him in the mode. not sure about Xavi, but Puyol is for the sake of Marquez because Marquez plays better with Puyol and it is so important for him to go back to his best. I fully believe Marquez is gonna be great again. and we saw how he hurled some nice long passes in today.

  19. PM
    November 10, 2009

    How was Marquez today? We need him to get back to his best.

  20. Maximus
    November 10, 2009

    The finishing was sharp, every time I see Bojan like this I start to wish he could get to the level where he could start for us and then I realize he’d have to, basically, get to Messi’s level or play on the wing. Then I remember how good P! is and how Ibra, Henry and next yr Kierisson will probably be ahead of him for CF while P!, Jeffren and maybe Robinho or Suarez will be ahead of him on the wing and then JDS and Iniesta will be ahead of him for AM.

    We need that kind of finishing in the Champions league and we are though with no problems.

  21. Ethan
    November 10, 2009

    Hector, great post. My sister and girlfriend were able to catch the game today, both got their tickets for 11 euro and asked me yesterday if it was worth going to because they thought all the reserves were playing, and i said of course for that price, how could you not go? So what a spectacle they got to see, Messi and xavi coming off the bench. Puyol starting with Alves and iniesta. Seems Guardiola had some respect for this side, or he just learned from EE’s massive mistake when what happens to a team that doesnt respect the other side. And how awesome is it that the EE is out of the Copa Del Rey to a team their Reserves have beaten…LOLOLOLOLOL WE dominated today, the kids played great and the team we have rolled out the past 2 games that has been anything but a normal side has just killed it. They have been playing wonderful passing and possession game. Im glad the big boys were able to have some rest and play some minutes and show that all we needed was a little break from the internationals. Hopefully this upcoming week doesn’t injure any of our players. I feel we are just starting to get on form and we finally have all of our players healthy, lets hope we can keep this team healthy right now. Forza Barça!!!

  22. Alexinho
    November 10, 2009

    A few thoughts, I hope they don’t go long as usual:

    -Great brace for Bojan, but he was so invisible in the first half. He was so invisible, while Pedro was so involved; the better player was eminently apparent. That said, that second goal from Bojan was pure class in a glass, as Ray-Ray would say. He raised the bar for himself a bit, and I hope he lives up to it in future appearances.

    -Why did we put Messi and Xavi on? They gave us three magnificent goals, but we didn’t need them. Half speed or no half speed, they could have been injured and I’m disappointed by that.

    -Maxwell, a player who is playing for his second top-of-the-world team, needs to tear a team like Cultural apart, defensively and offensively. For me, he was the chief giveaway artist, and I’m starting to get sorry that I supported his purchase. I’m glad Abidal’s as good and as healthy as he is because Maxwell is worrying.

    -Busquets played unusually well, and he should against a team like Cultural. He had his characteristic (dumbass) giveaways, but he balanced it out with a few very uncharacteristic moments of sheer brilliance. Don’t believe me (“sheer brilliance??”)? There was one glorious moment, when we were playing at full throttle in the first half (though goalless), when he beat his man, made a good pass to Bojan I think, who did nothing with it, and the ball fell back to Busquets, who made an excellent pass to Pedro on the wing. There were a few Xavi-like over-the-head passes across long distances to the wing that he displayed today. Yes, he had some giveaways, but he seemed to be surging with confidence, and he was executing quite well on a whole. I hope he reproduces this against a real side.

    -I like Jeffren. He had some very rookie moments, perhaps more than most of his teammates today, but from this look, he seems to me to be the only player that provides what we absolutely need out of Henry: width. He is a pure winger. He can beat his man, and if he gets his touch right, he can cross well. Too many times, he got caught doing too much, or he tapped it out of bounds. But if he improves this, we have our future left winger, because he does everything Henry does…just with far less skill.

    -Considering JDS, my strongest thought is: too many square passes. It’s cool that he wants to make few mistakes to make a good impression, but at times we were KILLING Cultural, and all we needed was a good and positive pass, but he never wanted to provide it. What bugged me was that this was the kind of team that he’s used to beating with Barca Atletic, but he didn’t take that confidence and play with it in this game. He was decent. He had his giveaways that were expected, but there wasn’t anything that I could look at and think over, sitting on my hands and waiting expectantly for the future. I preferred Busquets confidence with mistakes and good plays to JDS’ lack of confidence, with mistakes, and no good plays.

    SHIT, sorry for the length, I guess it’s my style…

    • Jnice
      November 11, 2009

      The pass to Bojan for his second goal from Jonathan was a good play, no?

  23. Corrine
    November 11, 2009

    i kinda don’t like how real madrid have been eliminated so early because this just means one less competition for them to worry about while we have a few to juggle :S ayyy dios mio

  24. Kxevin
    November 11, 2009

    Expect the review in the morning. Just back from a ride from hell, with broken derailleurs, pedals falling off, flat tires, everything short of an alien abduction. Did watch the match, and will pound it out while on the train. So stay tuned.

    Oh. All you Krkic lovers should get your shanks sharpened, in preparation for burying them into my back. History will show that he had a brace. But really …. come on ….

    Yes, he’s cute and cuddly and stuff, but really …. come on.

    Just sayin’.

    • BA
      November 11, 2009

      didn’t you castigate Bojan last time he got a pair of goals too? he wasn’t great in the first half, okay, but he finished his best chances like an ace. his movement around the top of the box was positive in the second half as well, i thought.

      stamping a great big “3 RATING” on Bojan’s beaming face is the football journalism equivalent of punching a kitten. have a heart, Kxevin!

    • jordi
      November 11, 2009

      What did he do wrong in this game? He didn’t even really have any giveaways and bad passes.

      • Boat Forever
        November 11, 2009

        He’s just playing with you guys… never mind. Bojan is gonna get good rating

        • eklavya
          November 11, 2009

          Last year Bojan played a good game and had two goals against Basel and Kevin gave him a 5 cause thats the number of goals he should have had. LOL just saying…

  25. drew
    November 11, 2009

    we play Alcorcon in the next round!

    • ElShowDeJason
      November 11, 2009

      “Classy, with a capital awesome”

      Isaiah, that makes all the sense in the world to me 🙂

      BTW, how awesome is P!… now i’m not one to get all “i knew before everyone that blah blah blah”, but Pedro! always stood out to me in the pre-seasons, for years now. Not quite a winger, not quite a forward, but the kid has confidence, energy, a great work rate, and his shooting and finishing seem to be on as of late. My bittersweet verdict is that he will either become one of our very best support/squad players, or a La Liga Superstar for a 3rd-6th place team… i obviously hope he stays with us.

      The same “can-do-no-wrong”/”calm-down-he’s-a-youngin” thing ppl got for Bojan, i seem to have for Busi. I know he always gets crtisized (often deservedly) for his inconsistency and not being careful enough, but I think Busi has a big future for us… Maturity and Experience, i think, should get rid of his biggest flaws.

      anyways, it was a good game, can’t wait for the review…

  26. Boat Forever
    November 11, 2009

    Sport got every body’s name right on ratings except for Jeffren, they called him Bolton Wanderers 😀

  27. Hector
    November 11, 2009

    Apparently Messi is scheduled to receive a Marca award of all things from Alfredo di Stefano himself. Ouch. Also, guess who gets to train in Real Madrid’s facilities tomorrow? Yup. Messi.

    I sure as hell hope he doesn’t play or at least gets subbed/subbed on. On the bright side for Argentina, Cambiasso FINALLY got called up and will likely be given a shot.

  28. poipoi
    November 11, 2009

    Silly and probably-irrelevant fact : With Pinto in the goal we don’t concede at all 😉

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