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Messi/Cesc to RM: "I'm living in the future so the presence is my past, my presence is a present, kiss my ass"

I hear the team won something tonight? Maybe we talk about it later? Messi became the all-time leading Supercopa goalscorer and he’s 24? Cesc played 10 + stoppage and won his first trophy in 6 years and had a hand in the gamewinner? Beating a rampant Madrid side coming with full force? Yeah, good night.

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  1. footballfan
    August 17, 2011

    Can’t help feeling happy for Cesc even though I’m an Arsenal fan too. He looked really comfortable during the match. Can’t wait to watch a fully-fit full strength Barcelona. Judging from these 2 matches, I’d say we’ll beat EE anytime.

    • pelecanos
      August 18, 2011

      I wouldn’t be that cocky just yet my friend. Madrid looks better than last year for sure. I would feel a lot more comfortable once Barca is fit and jelling well together. esp the likes of Cesc and Sanches

  2. Blau-Grenade
    August 17, 2011

    And this from Alves.
    *http://yfrog.com/h02feohj

  3. Diego
    August 17, 2011

    I can’t help but feel that the brawl at the end was directions of Mou so that he can use the chaos and poke Tito in the eye.

    • footballfan
      August 17, 2011

      Why did he want to poke Tito anyway? And the worst part is he acted innocent after that. Crazy.

      • Jackieboy
        August 17, 2011

        Probably hoped to provoke a violent reaction? I don’t know. Only shows what kind of person he is, sneaking up from behind, grabbing his face and then playing the victim when he gets pushed away. And I thought I couldn’t despise him any more after tha ‘por que’ rant.

      • August 17, 2011

        He did it because he knew they lost the match and he wanted to eek out some petty way to try to humiliate Barca and change the topic of conversation from the fact his team once again gave it their all and lost.

        If you’re going to say the Super Copa is a trophy that is so urgent to win that you prepare all summer to do so, then there are no moral victories in losing it.

        He’s just trying to change the subject from his team’s failure.

        As usual.

        • Cam
          August 17, 2011

          I apologize if this offends anyone on the board, but Mourinho is Portuguese for douchebag. Only a total clown would stoop to such depths. Absolutely pathetic.

    • nzm
      August 17, 2011

      I just hope that Tito doesn’t get in trouble for slapping Mou on the side of his head in retribution.

  4. Diego
    August 17, 2011

    When Pepe was asked how it felt to be a football player, He said : What is Football ?

  5. Roz
    August 17, 2011

    VISCA EL BARCA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. August 17, 2011

    Game Was Epic! Hey Arsenal Fans, Took Fabregas 2 Days To Win A Trophy…
    Watched The Game In LA At The Fox And Hounds English Pub, Pretty Cool Place, Bunch Of Fans There. Visca Barca!

  7. August 17, 2011

    A truly pathetic, despicable side and manager. Mou has become a caricature of himself. Pep is right, one day this will really end badly.

  8. ciaran
    August 17, 2011

    Everyone’s MOTM?
    Mascherano has my vote

    • Jackieboy
      August 17, 2011

      Abidal. He owned Di Maria and later Ronaldo. Whenever he ventured forward, he did good.

      • chop
        August 17, 2011

        All three of, Alves, Masch, Abidal, seemed to easily deal with CR. His dribbling is really not what it used to be IMO though his shot and poacher instincts are as good as ever.

          • nzm
            August 17, 2011

            Yup – Alves for me – he made Cristiana look 3rd division. He was so effective that RM moved Ozil out to play beside Ronaldo in the hope that he could draw Alves away. However, Pep made a brilliant sub when he brought on Adriano to the right which effectively closed down Ronaldo for the night.

          • ElJefe
            August 18, 2011

            Absolutely Abidal in my book. He was the only one out there who looked comfortable all night. So many careless turnovers, our tika-tika is definitely not at full season pace but hey, we all breath easy at the end of this match.

            Thanks to Marcelo for making us look like true heroes in what was an ugly game otherwise.

      • mom4
        August 17, 2011

        finished game.
        MOTM: Messi
        MOTMOTM: Alves

        • Vj
          August 18, 2011

          Mom of the Man of the Match?

          That’s you I guess 😛

          • mom4
            August 18, 2011

            Man of the match other than Messi- Blitzen’s term

    • August 17, 2011

      Tito Villanova, for not tearing Mourinho apart after that attack. Shoved him and then cooled off.

      • nzm
        August 17, 2011

        Unfortunately his reaction was a bit more than that. He actually slapped Mou on the right side of his head as he pushed him. Catalunya TV has shown a couple of different camera angles of the incident.

    • Nav
      August 17, 2011

      Messi. Two goals and an assist. A goal and an assist in the first leg. Though Valdes, Alves, Mascherano, and Abidal are close second.

  9. Lev
    August 17, 2011

    Surprised nobody has mentioned Pique’s backheel to set up Messi for the 2nd goal.

    Other than that i am really disgusted by EE. I hope Mourinho dies before me so I can celebrate.

    • culegirl3
      August 17, 2011

      I shouldn’t agree or laugh about your last two sentences but you echo my thoughts Lev.

    • momo
      August 17, 2011

      Too far lev. It is a game after all.

  10. Lev
    August 17, 2011

    And yeah, sorry for being rude but voting anybody but Messi as MOTM is well…yeah, let’s not be rude cause I love y’all! 😉

  11. K_legit
    August 17, 2011

    Guardiola: “Lack of respect Mourinho he says he doesn’t know your assistant? Maybe he really doesn’t know him. I know Karanka, Faria..

    BOSS

  12. August 17, 2011

    Dani Alves over these two legs was absolutely unbelievable defensively.

    Masch was amazing. Pique had a terrific game (what an assist – only CB in the world that could do that). Abidal was very good and so much better than last game.

    I have to watch the match again – but I think Alves was Barcelona’s best backline player.

    In fact for much of the match he was Barca’s best player.

    Until, well, Messi once again showed how ethereal he is.

    Messi was man of the match just on sheer impact.

    But in terms of overall involvement and game play – I think it may have been Alves.

    I do need to watch the game again though – as Masch was great.

    • Cam
      August 17, 2011

      Completely agree. Even without going forward I thought this was one of Alves’ best performances in a Barca shirt. He absolutely controlled Ronaldo and kept a very cool head as well.

  13. y2k156
    August 17, 2011

    For me, MOTM is simple decision about who swung the match for us and in this match, it has to be Messi. If no one was decisive, than i would go for overall performance. I felt our entire team played well considering the level RM were playing at. Only thing everybody sucked at was corners:).

  14. Whatever
    August 17, 2011

    Euler, please explain to us why our passing was so bad tonight?

      • chop
        August 17, 2011

        Busquets, Pique, and Pedro seemed kind of rusty as well.

  15. mom4
    August 17, 2011

    Please Blitzen, I know that this is a preseason win, but some Blitzen awards would be a lot of fun.

    • blitzen
      August 17, 2011

      You ask so nicely, how can I say no? I have to watch the match again first, I just got home in time today to catch the 2nd half.

  16. Helge
    August 17, 2011

    Messi has quite amazing upper arm muscles, doesn’t look like him at all 😀

    • nzm
      August 17, 2011

      He’s certainly bulked up over the summer, hasn’t he? His neck is really thick now, and the other day he wore a sleeveless shirt during training which shows how much his upper arms have developed. I had to look twice to make sure that it was Messi!

  17. Roz
    August 17, 2011

    “Marcelo committed a foul and they [Barcelona’s players] threw themselves to the ground, like always.”
    -The EE captin whos name I will not type
    Classy guy.

    • Jackieboy
      August 17, 2011

      Oif, just when I was beginning to feel bad for him for having to captain such a classless side.

    • nzm
      August 17, 2011

      He should have just stopped at the first 4 words and remembered the phrase, “Cause: Impact.” 🙂

    • blitzen
      August 17, 2011

      He seriously said that??? Maybe he will change his tune when he sees the replay…but I doubt it.

      Why, Iker? You used to be a good guy/ 🙁

      • nzm
        August 17, 2011

        He was interviewed on the sideline right after the game. Unfortunately, he did say that. I really like Casillas – think he’s the best RM player – but his mind is now so tainted by Mou’s influence that I’m starting to go off him.

  18. Helge
    August 17, 2011

    Also kudos to the one who predicted that Coentrao will have lots of problems as a left-back for EE!

    He was indeed absolutely out-played by Pedro.

  19. flyzowee
    August 17, 2011

    Messi was decisive yes but went lost for large parts.
    Motm def has to be a defensive player.

    The whole back line cept pique was brilliant

    I also hope people take not of adrianos and cescs part in the winning goal.

    Pep deserves some credit

  20. August 17, 2011

    please explain to us why our passing was so bad tonight?

    There were three reasons.

    First – the Madrid pressure was very good.

    Second – the touch and precision the team usually has simply isn’t there. They just haven’t played enough together yet to get back in rhythm.

    Adriano’s awful clearance was a good example of that off form touch.

    Third – not enough off the ball movement to create space.

    • nzm
      August 17, 2011

      Yes – the RM pressure was the main thing. Even Valdes got into trouble a couple of times when Madrid players ran up quickly to him. Usually our back line has the time to hold the ball and let the team reset itself before playing the ball forward. Tonight, (and last Sunday), Madrid would not allow that to happen by pressuring far up the pitch.

  21. August 17, 2011

    I’m still seething. I’m amazed at how our players take this crap, game in game out against them.

    • August 18, 2011

      Yep I wonder that myself. After each of these crap I keep thinking our players have had enough but then again they RISE OVER IT AGAIN AND AGAIN. I LOVE THIS TEAM. IT’S UNREPEATABLE!

  22. messifan
    August 17, 2011

    So apparently villa slapped ozil, that’s not cool at all. He needs to calm down.

    • BarcaGirl_Indo
      August 17, 2011

      yes, it was a bad thing to do.
      however I read he was reacted to Ozil who stamp on Cesc while Cesc was on the ground.

  23. August 17, 2011

    I think we should talk about the goals and our play, instead of other stuff.

    For me, all of our goals were of the highest quality. And Messi involved in all three? Insane. Hard to imagine that he’s getting better, right? What a volley for the decider, and what a setup. Big players, big moments. Ramos pushes a gimme header wide, while Messi buries a more difficult shot with the match on the line.

    I don’t know if we had the juice to go through extra time. Fabregas already showed his value to the side, and boy, did he look comfortable right away, as if to the manor born. Some will say that he was but no, he’s spent the last years learning to play in a different league, in a different style. Maybe Masia training is like riding a bike.

    I thought that they were a very different side, until they reverted to past form. Aggressive, fit, with dynamic movement and passing. This match could easily have gone the other way. If they can keep playing that kind of footy instead of the other kind, this season will go right down to the wire, when it eventually gets started.

    We almost lost again to them for not clearing our lines. As with the Copa last season when we didn’t clear it out hard and long, Adriano’s half-assed clearance led directly to the goal.

    For me, this match was all about heart. We have the hearts of champions. As I said before, Guardiola clubs have no institutional memory. We lost every SuperCopa vs EE? So what. That was then, and this is now.

    I still place about all the weight of a feather on the SuperCopa, but it’s hard to argue with the display put on by our players, against a fitter, faster opponent. Again, it’s sometimes moments of individual brilliance that decide football matches.

    • August 18, 2011

      Except for the very end, it was a great game, with positive and forward-looking football from both sides (i.e. no parked buses). I can only hope the next classicos are played to that standard.

      Although we still looked rough, Barca was greatly improved from last Sunday. Almost all of the sluggishness was gone and the heart was definitely back. If Messi hadn’t drifted out of the game in the middle of the second half, due to rising anger over the excessive fouls against him, we might have seen even more great play from the little Argentine. Despite the short pre-season training stint for him, he is bouncing back very quickly.

      It’s gonna be another fun season.

  24. BarcaGirl_Indo
    August 17, 2011

    remember guys, this is the FIRST time, I repeat, FIRST time we saw our best XI play together again since Wembley.

    and don’t forget the fact that despite EE played very well, 3 of their 4 goals come from corner kick, only one from open play.

    credit to the backline and our brilliant goalkeeper. we really really need to fix our anticipation with corner kick.

    that was not the best display from Barcelona, far from it, but really, I’m so proud of them. so so proud and happy.the heart of the champion.

    and I’m running out of word to describe how I feel towards *that team and that coach*

    and congratulations, Cesc. that was such a great and beautiful debut to remember for the rest of your life. 😀
    (except Marcelo ugly tackle and Ozil stamp you, of course). :roll:

    • blitzen
      August 17, 2011

      and don’t forget the fact that despite EE played very well, 3 of their 4 goals come from corner kick, only one from open play.

      This is an excellent point. We have known for a while that set plays are our weakness. NOW is the time for Pep and Tito to address this. We may have shorter than average players, but there must be better ways to defend against corner plays.

      • nzm
        August 17, 2011

        Barca’s habit of leaving the opponent player undefended on the far post would be a good place to start.

        • ElJefe
          August 18, 2011

          Ha! True Nzm, I was shocked to see a man unmarked a least twice out there. For anyone here who plays football, we all know there is a magic magnet that draws the ball to far post.

          • nzm
            August 18, 2011

            They don’t only do this with corners. Even in open play, many times I’ve seen the Barca defence drift too close to the ball carrier, leaving an opposition player unmarked out wide. So many “surprise” goals against Barca have been scored in this way.

      • BarcaGirl_Indo
        August 17, 2011

        everytime they had corner kick, I feel like I just wanted to close my eyes.

        three of four EE goals come from corner kick. that was really bad.
        you got a homework, Pep and Tito.

    • culegirl3
      August 17, 2011

      Mou’s spanish sucks ass but here’s a small half assed translation:

      We played well in the two games and it seems like we’re a better team compared to last year. A reporter asks if he’s sad about the result and he says the team did a spectacular job. All I can talk about is my team and nothing else. What’s happened at the end has happened and its not Madrid’s players. Then a reporter asks about Pepe and Marcelo getting too excited and Mou says they played great. As far as Tito goes I have nothing to say. As far as refs and tv cameras go “I have been educated in football to play like a man”.
      We’re not happy with loosing, I’d be a hypocrite if I said I wasn’t happy despite this being a small title. I’m still pleased with the evolution of the team.

      5:32 it gets good..the female journalist has got guts. She asks:
      You say you are educated in the philosophy of football does the image of your players come into this philosophy?

      And then he goes on and on about the evolution of EE and how “great” they’re playing. Says there’s an equilibrium thats been found.

      • yonono
        August 17, 2011

        Don’t forget about when he called Tito “Pito” (for the less hispanic types, I advise urban dictionary)

        Mourinho disgusts me.

  25. August 17, 2011

    Michele, can you confirm/deny if Ozil stepped on Cesc while he was on the ground? It’s being reported on Twitter, but I was wondering if you saw it, or the cameras caught it at all.

    By the way, what a game you went to Ryan. Must have been nuts.

    • Ryan
      August 17, 2011

      It was! It felt way too open for my Cule eyes… Not nearly enough midfield domination! It’s almost 4am over here, but I’ll just say before bed that watching Barça’s build up play live is amazing. 😀 And our both our full backs were on full-beast mode. Hearing the monkey chants pulled me right out of that near blissful admiration tho. Feeling sick to my stomach wasn’t something I expected tonight!

    • nzm
      August 17, 2011

      Yes – seeing the reports of that incident too, but TV hasn’t shown it. We’ve seen a lot of different camera angles of the affair, but nothing about what Ozil did before he was slapped by Villa. But the ref may have seen it, because he red-carded Ozil as well as Villa.

    • nzm
      August 18, 2011

      Since last night, we’ve watched our recorded video of the game – and the fight sequence in extreme slow-motion – frame by frame, so to speak!

      Unfortunately, we didn’t get all the camera angles that were available when the incident was reviewed post-match, but from what we can see, we don’t think that Ozil came anywhere near Fabregas on the ground.

      After being red-carded, Marcelo went off to the bench, said something to Ozil and they both returned to the field. Ozil and Villa got together, and from what we can see, they exchanged words and some pushing and shoving – maybe a slap. Higuain charged into the fray – on behalf of Ozil – going for Villa. He was pushed away by Pinto and Abidal and then Mascherano.

      After some more shouting from Ozil, he was led from the field by Marcelo.

  26. just listenin
    August 17, 2011

    Just got done watching the match on DVR, was in media blackout mode while at son’s futbol practice – this match was…
    Incredibly inspiring for the absolute iron will of this club, where do you start to talk about finding that opportunity again, and again, and again when you just aren’t at the top of your game yet. And some of the individual performances – wow.
    Completely predictable for its nonsense, I’m holding my tongue but we almost got the serious injury I was expecting and predicting in an earlier post.

    Glad we didn’t buy that Fabregas guy, waste of money, he would never fit in… wait,…what? – can you say hand in glove. This guy is so much better a reader of the game than he was ever had the support to demonstrate at Arsenal, he’ll be a joy to watch… welcome home Cesc, enjoy the first trophy.

  27. blitzen
    August 17, 2011

    The only funny part of tonight’s melee was seeing Thiago standing in the middle of it with a “Whut?” expression on his face. Thought you were playing with the big boys? Nope! Welcome back to kindergarten, Thiago. 😛

    • Xingxian
      August 17, 2011

      Blitzen you just made me sad 🙁

  28. blitzen
    August 17, 2011

    Wait, wait!!!! Who was it a couple of threads ago who said Cesc should come in to the game in the 82nd minute and show it only takes him 8 minutes to win a trophy with Barcelona??? That’s exactly when he came in! 😆

    • nzm
      August 17, 2011

      Yup – that was Gogah – he called it!

      Fabregas + Arsenal + 8 years = 1 trophy
      Fabregas + Barca + 8 mins = 1 trophy

      🙂

    • outerspacedout
      August 17, 2011

      Yeah I remembered that when I saw the match report too. Barca96 I think.

      My internet went down for the past 18 hours until just now and cable- which even aired Copa Catalonia and all the preseason games of both us and EE- didn’t show this so I couldn’t watch it!

    • August 17, 2011

      YES. The amount of times our defense just bossed a potential attack had me yelling like we had just scored.

      Say, Kxev, when are you breaking out the KRS scores? Waiting for La Liga?

  29. blitzen
    August 17, 2011

    And because it can’t be said often enough: Pep Guardiola. Class. 100%.

  30. Diego
    August 17, 2011

    What do Lassana Diarra, Ramos, Di Maria, Albiol, Pepe, and Marcelo have in common ?

    Hint : The answer isn’t EE players.

  31. Diego
    August 17, 2011

    The team was immense today due to the circumstances.

    It’s unfair to pick MOTM, All players were worthy of that award, Mascherano, Dani, Messi, Iniesta, etc.

    The only thing I blame the defence for is the Corners, Absolutely horrendous defending, EE comes out firing on all cylinders and they only manage to score through corners. That shows how great the defense were in both matches but Pep has to work on that.

  32. just listenin
    August 17, 2011

    I have to rewatch this without the anxiety. Was thinking about what went on when Pep made the subs – Was it Keita to DM?, Cesc to an attacking role and Adriano up on the wing ala Alves a few years ago ,… in the Apr ’10 Clasico was it? (that’s also the Affelay role from the CL semi’s last year). That shift seemed to really change the shape/flow of play, with more than just the impact of fresh legs.

  33. Anonymous_69
    August 17, 2011

    For neutral fans, that must have been one of the best clasicos in recent memory.

    The match does leave me a little confused. I mean, I get a little worried that Madrid’s midfield managed to get the better of our’s for the most part. But then I remember that we aren’t nearly at full fitness. But we were still using our best lineup. But then I remember that Madrid didn’t actually create many clear scoring chances. Their goals were really scrappy. And then I also think about how there is no way that Madrid will use the Alonso-Khedira combo again. His team has improved a hell of a lot in the past year, but they still conceded 5 goals in 2 matches against a sub-par Barcelona side that scored with almost every attacking play they had, and that is just not acceptable for Mourinho. He will for sure go back to his triple pivot, with Di Maria getting the axe. And their pressing won’t be as crazy that way.

  34. August 18, 2011

    It’s sad to see the bag of ice on Fabregas’ knee in that second picture. I was hoping that he wouldn’t take any rough knocks for awhile and finally get some solid healing. Here’s hoping it’s entirely precautionary.

  35. August 18, 2011

    The replay from behind the goal for Messi’s goal showed a beautifully symbolic scene: Cristiano Ronaldo chasing Messi, but unable to stop him.

    See at 2:42 in the following video:
    *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf1HgKJIUuk

    • Helge
      August 18, 2011

      Not only chasing him, he is down to his knees… 😀

      It’s actually one of his typical celebrating position after scoring, dunno what was going on in his mind there ^^

  36. BarcaGirl_Indo
    August 18, 2011

    I didn’t follow Cesc’s interviews during his Arsenal days tbh,
    but from what I’ve seen so far he always made Guardiola-esque comments to the press.

    you know, always try to keep it classy and avoid controversy.
    they’re not just sharing the same number, eh? 😀

  37. can_we_go_Xalvies
    August 18, 2011

    So what happens to Villa now? will he miss the first game of the Liga or Copa?

  38. Olufestus
    August 18, 2011

    **still enjoying the trolling comments from EE BLOG,**lol mode in full swing…..

  39. August 18, 2011

    So Sanchez will get big min right away if Villa gets 3 games for the slap. Marcelo should het 3 while pipit and Ozil will each get 1 or 2. Now to Mou; the league has to put their foot down, this pic is worth a 5-10 game touchhole ban. No coach should ever provoke a physical confrontation w/ opposing teams players or

    http://yfrog.com/ker1zobj

  40. Dani_el
    August 18, 2011

    Hey guys! Awesome game..

    I couldn’t find a good enough stream to see it live, so I downloaded it and waited without seeing this page or any news at all..
    A lot of things going on in this game, Messi was superb! Mascherano was a real boss down there, and Valdes! he saved thing I never knew could be saved. I recognized a lot of defensive work in Villa and Pedro, it was a nice enough game for Adriano (nice assist, but awful mistake on EE’s second goal). I liked Cesc coming in and gameplaying, he seemed so comfortable there! This all in all a great game for cules.

    Now the ugly, What mou has done to RealMadrid, is unspeakeable and disgusting, I never liked EE, but I have never hated them as a team and as an institution so much as of now. He should be punished, its incredible how much of an ass he must be to convince a lot of talented players to be so agressive trying to hurt fellow footballers. And in top of that, convince them that any foul they make is non-existent and all of our players just fall down because they want to. I’m truly appalled for his behaviour. I hope he fails miserably with EE.

      • culegirl3
        August 18, 2011

        It takes a great man, a gentleman made of pure class to keep his cool and not point fingers.

        I agree with Carme when she talks about Casillas and Alonso being poisoned by Mourinho..it’s shocking and appalling. And Siro and that other guy have some nerve being offended when she blames Mou for all of this. How stupid can you be not to see when all the dominoes are falling in your face? Royal team of Spain my ass. Where the hell is your dignity?

      • xaving fun
        August 18, 2011

        i know it cut off, but at the beginning of the video they are still discussing the tackles and that’s what i mean, in what i say that mourhino seems to have been effective in the media war (so far)

        some people still have trouble accepting Madrid’s overly rough play as dangerous, and even less as a deliberate system (more than a recourse) applied by coach

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxDg-Ydy6Ns

        I love Pep’s words, and really they are an inspiration to most fans, barca or not of the game. but in today’s soundbite media, the translation form catalan seems to vary depending on the writers intent. i have even seen that presser translated as: “pep slams mourihino” (albiet just from a google search- soccerway.com)


        “We must be careful, because one day we will cause harm, not on the field but off, and we’re all a little responsible for this.”
        -espnsoccernet (passive, notice the use of WE, no other quotes used)

        or

        “One day, this will end bad. That’s what I feel. Football isn’t only about the players on a pitch, there are more people involved.I can do something with my players, and make sure that they behave their best, but I do not give lessons to anyone [else].”
        -barcastuff

        haters gonna hate, i guess but its still frustrating…

        best to just enjoy being a fan i guess

  41. BarcaGirl_Indo
    August 18, 2011

    I hope Alexis recover soon.. we need him for La Liga games, since Villa will be suspended..

    EE fans spreading rumors that Villa made racist comment about muslim, and I won’t believe it unless Ozil/Villa make a statement..

    El Clasico will always turns into an ugly stage with Mou as their manager..

  42. xaving fun
    August 18, 2011

    hey guys, i am really happy for this victory; it may have been a glorified preseason cup but it clearly mentally set the tone for the rest of the year. I remember letting out a captain caveman primal scream after iniesta’s goal

    sadly it looks like the circus of last season will continue. I really hate how much emphasis mourinho places on the mind games and scripted responses in the press. i think he guy can’t tell anymore where he end and his media persona begins

    After barca went up 2-1 and looked steady in the second half i really thought they could have transcended it all. and that is where i think mourihno has been so successful to his like minded audience; in painting an alternate fallible perception of barca’s game (as whiny, divers, who manipulate the refs)… exaggerated distortion of mostly non football related matters

    It may have been a lot to ask for, but IMO a boring scoreless second half or a 3-1 victory would have put out more fires than all of pep’s classy restraint. kind of how barca (re)won the world’s respect after wembley

    As it was, RM played well, when they stuck to playing football; while I clearly understand why they play physical, i think they go after the opposing teams’ body too much. I just watched the game once, but i remember barca’s yellow card tackles were primary seeking the ball; just arriving too late (due to lack of fitness and yes a bad decision). some of those extra kicks and arm throws will just be very hard to punish…

    anyway until Euler’s formal breakdown, I found this on madrids effective pressing…
    //http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2MGPY21oew

    few great signs:
    -like fabregas 8 min (sans icepack),
    -pique’s back heel (even though i think he should have cleared it leading the RM 1st goal)
    – iniesta scoring again
    -abidal and alves bossing the defense
    -mach looking better at cm
    – pedro!
    -really incredible after 3 days rest between last game, i am proud of these players 🙂
    visca barca

  43. culegirl3
    August 18, 2011

    I think I figured out why Villa slapped Ozil and it’s nothing to do stepping on Cesc (at least not from what i could see in the video). in the brawl villa pushes Ozil while not looking, ozil pushes back harder, and villa reciprocates.
    *It’s around the 5 minute mark
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTJXJubbM10&feature=related

  44. K_legit
    August 18, 2011

    OMG the rumours spreading as to why Ozil was pissed off are reaching ludicrous heights

  45. DumbOx
    August 18, 2011

    I missed watching it live as the family vacation took us to a long road trip to Hana Coast in Maui. While driving through the treacherous, winding road, I was saying my “Hail Marys” not for our safety but for the team to win the final. The drive was gorgeous but I kept thinking about the match. Having seen it now, I am absolutely appalled how the footballing world could allow the devil incarnate himself roam on football pitches. Mourinho’s deplorable tactics should not be condoned as they send the wrong message esp. to young soccer fans. My 10 year old daughter who plays competitive thinks EE players could end up hurting or ending the careers of some football players. Is there a way to file a petition to ban coaches and players who are out to hurt other players maliciously? While Mourinho gives Barca fans someone to hate, despicable creatures like him do not deserve to roam the earth. How I loath this guy and given the chance to see meet him in person, I would not hesitate to crumple his face just like he did to Villanueva.

  46. BarcaGirl_Indo
    August 18, 2011

    what is this?

    my twitter TL is full with “Villa is dead to me”, “Villa insulted Islam”, etc.
    and they don’t have any proof or evidence whatsoever.
    they just believe it, because they want to.

    it’s “Busi is a racist!” all over again.
    God, this is why I’m so sick with El Clasico this year.

    • K_legit
      August 18, 2011

      As a non-religious person, I am happy to say that I don’t give a flying fuck what Villa said to Senor Ozil..its is the getting physical part that I abhor

    • things are about to get messi
      August 18, 2011

      again, in the same vain, it doesnt make sense. Busquets allegedly calls Marcelo “mono” while having African and Brazilian team mates. Now Villa insults Islam while having Muslim team mates. This nonsense is getting out of hand. I think Xavi hit the right point when saying this team does not know how to win. I was taught how not to be a sore loser when I was a kid. Im guessing all of Real Madrid missed that lesson.

  47. messi_fan
    August 18, 2011

    I only caught the last 25 or so minutes of the match but I’m really looking forward to Euler’s post match analysis. I’m REALLY curious about why we were suddenly able to pick apart Madrid after Cesc came on.

  48. Goo
    August 18, 2011

    Ramos: “You can’t reproach Real Madrid anything. As for our attitude on the pitch, we left a great image.”

    Seriously? How loco can you get? I kinda wanna try what this guy’s smoking.

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